User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 9/29/2014 3:04:11 PM EDT
[#1]
airborne,
I think there are gauges available, but the vast majority of us that have .277 wlv barrels do not have gauges. When you go the to website to buy the dies, a couple of sized cases are included that will serve as a good guide for loading. There has been a lot of testing going on with various COAL, but in general, if you use the headspace measure from those 2 cases, it will get you close enough to fire a few rounds to get your barrels actual measures I have been doing a lot of measuring on different cases lately, so check thru the threads for better measures; however, IIRC the fired case headspace from my barrel was at 1.265-6 and I was sizing cases to measure 1.263 in my Hornady Headspace gauge. Maybe some others will chime in to back me up. Or when I can get back to my load info pages. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/29/2014 3:10:49 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By airborne89:
Are headspace gauges for sale yet? I'm not seeing them at your store. I can get them custom order for $135/set, which include a go, no-go and field. Or $100 for a two gauge set. They're not cheap because they're not production. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/29/2014 3:23:43 PM EDT
[#3]
That is kinda why I didn't get them either. Cough cough
I am cheap or at least I think I wisely saved my money by not buying them. Although, a $135 insurance policy ain't bad either. I have another thread going now on some wild .223 headspace measures; however, it appears that they are all in spec. |
|
|
|
USA
|
Posted: 10/4/2014 12:04:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GS1000SN]
[#4]
Guess I'm all in..... received my 18" blem barrel and die set today.
Need to get brass and other parts to build my upper. Anyone tried AA2230, AA2520, or IMR 4895 powders? I have these for 5.56 and .308 so I hope to use these in the .277. fixed the .227 typo. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/4/2014 3:16:48 AM EDT
[#5]
While I do reload, I would love to see some loaded and possibly commercial ammo for this wonderful cartridge.
 (Though I should get on board.)
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/4/2014 8:18:26 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GS1000SN:
Guess I'm all in..... received my 18" blem barrel and die set today. Need to get brass and other parts to build my upper. Anyone tried AA2230, AA2520, or IMR 4895 powders? I have these for 5.56 and .308 so I hope to use these in the .227. Welcome aboard GS. I'm not so sure about your list of powders there as the WLV seems to like the powders in the "between Blackout and 6.8spc" portion of the burn rate charts. Pistol powders like 296, H110, are working in the pistol gas barrels but not so well in the mid-length. For your 18" you will want to look for 1680, AA2200, 1200R, 5744, (4198 and 4227 work as well but are slower). This will get you going for the 85-110 grain bullet range. If you need any help along the way just let us know and we started a Wolverine forum that gas been up for a week now and data is getting compiled over there as well. Thanks and have fun! |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/4/2014 8:19:04 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cag40Navy:
While I do reload, I would love to see some loaded and possibly commercial ammo for this wonderful cartridge. (Though I should get on board.)Very, very soon.... very. Did I mention very? |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/4/2014 8:20:19 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cag40Navy:
While I do reload, I would love to see some loaded and possibly commercial ammo for this wonderful cartridge. (Though I should get on board.)Very, very soon.... very. Did I mention very? |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/4/2014 9:07:30 AM EDT
[#9]
GS, when you shoot it, you are going to love it.
I have a range test of 15 different loads set for this weekend. There is getting to be more and better data available for loading, but the powder choices are not large, especially considering their availability. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/4/2014 4:11:45 PM EDT
[#10]
Here is my new 18".
My 16" is right below and still has the scope on it because I will be hunting again in the morning and don't want to mess with the scope right now. I will finish moving everything over tomorrow for my range time. 
Aero upper MI SS rail YHM lo gas block Same lower |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/4/2014 10:38:44 PM EDT
[#11]
Awesome builds!
We have some pretty big news coming in another few weeks... |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/4/2014 11:23:47 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Awesome builds! We have some pretty big news coming in another few weeks... Good to hear about the ammo! I got this gut feeling this may be with a organization like.... SAAMI?
(Shot in the dark here) |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/5/2014 1:21:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TheHomelandSoldier]
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cag40Navy:
Good to hear about the ammo! I got this gut feeling this may be with a organization like.... SAAMI?
(Shot in the dark here) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cag40Navy:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Awesome builds! We have some pretty big news coming in another few weeks... Good to hear about the ammo! I got this gut feeling this may be with a organization like.... SAAMI?
(Shot in the dark here) We're not there yet (SAAMI), maybe in another year or so, but, the planets are beginning to align. More in a few weeks. |
|
|
|
WI, USA
|
Posted: 10/5/2014 11:08:24 AM EDT
[#14]
When the 10.5" barrels in stainless were inbound I decided I had to have one...
Here are some teasers with more to come... 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/5/2014 12:14:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BIGGDAWG]
[#15]
chilly out today, didn't get anything loaded this week but i got my new upper from Mark, reassembled the gun and went out to test the 95 ttsx with 1680.
all rounds cycled action fine, all rounds ejected to the 430-5 o'clock. went to 23.2 grains of 1680 no real pressure signs though the case at 22.6 had a small ejector smear the next 2 showed no signs primer just getting flat. velocity did taper off so 23-23.5 is probably max 49 deg light breeze <5 mph cases wcc 11 light crimp lee fcd
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/5/2014 1:08:21 PM EDT
[#16]
2650+ with this weather are really good results thanks BD!
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/5/2014 1:08:52 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gtfoxy:
When the 10.5" barrels in stainless were inbound I decided I had to have one... Here are some teasers with more to come... http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx160/gtfoxy1/20140930_191842_zpskzw81xou.jpg http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx160/gtfoxy1/20140930_192137_zps5ksrnpwg.jpg http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx160/gtfoxy1/2014-10-04_15-02-08_220_zpsfezg56h9.jpg You have a pile of fun there gt. |
|
|
|
WI, USA
|
Posted: 10/5/2014 2:00:48 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
You have a pile of fun there gt. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By gtfoxy:
When the 10.5" barrels in stainless were inbound I decided I had to have one... Here are some teasers with more to come... http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx160/gtfoxy1/20140930_191842_zpskzw81xou.jpg http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx160/gtfoxy1/20140930_192137_zps5ksrnpwg.jpg http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx160/gtfoxy1/2014-10-04_15-02-08_220_zpsfezg56h9.jpg You have a pile of fun there gt. Ya You Betcha! Looks like I get to run some of those new factory loads through it myself...Looking forward to it! |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/9/2014 2:28:40 PM EDT
[#19]
Looks like I'll be adding a Wolverine to my collection. I ordered the parts this morning.
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/9/2014 2:43:34 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GI_Brat:
Looks like I'll be adding a Wolverine to my collection. I ordered the parts this morning. welcome to the club. you won't be disappointed. easy to make brass and all your 223 mags work perfectly. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/9/2014 2:55:36 PM EDT
[#21]
make sure to check out the 277 wolverine forum for load data and a wealth of info.
http://mdws.forumchitchat.com/ |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/9/2014 3:32:21 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BIGGDAWG:
make sure to check out the 277 wolverine forum for load data and a wealth of info. http://mdws.forumchitchat.com/ Thanks, I'll check it out. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/9/2014 5:47:37 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GI_Brat:
Thanks, I'll check it out. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GI_Brat:
Originally Posted By BIGGDAWG:
make sure to check out the 277 wolverine forum for load data and a wealth of info. http://mdws.forumchitchat.com/ Thanks, I'll check it out. You're in and welcome aboard GI! |
|
|
|
KS, USA
|
Posted: 10/10/2014 3:43:30 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
I can get them custom order for $135/set, which include a go, no-go and field. Or $100 for a two gauge set. They're not cheap because they're not production. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By airborne89:
Are headspace gauges for sale yet? I'm not seeing them at your store. I can get them custom order for $135/set, which include a go, no-go and field. Or $100 for a two gauge set. They're not cheap because they're not production. Ok Thanks |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/13/2014 9:33:28 PM EDT
[#25]
The Wolverine goes full auto and eats it up...
Loaded ammo available in a week or so! 
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/14/2014 8:46:00 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
The Wolverine goes full auto and eats it up... Loaded ammo available in a week or so! That is awesome news! |
|
|
|
WI, USA
|
Posted: 10/14/2014 9:02:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: gtfoxy]
[#27]
So Suuuuweeeeet!
Hmmmm, that upper looks familiar...
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/14/2014 1:55:49 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Loaded ammo available in a week or so! Great! My wolverine parts arrived today. Getting closer to reality! |
|
|
|
WI, USA
|
Posted: 10/14/2014 3:33:04 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GI_Brat:
Great! My wolverine parts arrived today. Getting closer to reality! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GI_Brat:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Loaded ammo available in a week or so! Great! My wolverine parts arrived today. Getting closer to reality! Welcome to the club! What barrel did you go with? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/15/2014 8:27:13 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gtfoxy:
Welcome to the club! What barrel did you go with? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gtfoxy:
Originally Posted By GI_Brat:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Loaded ammo available in a week or so! Great! My wolverine parts arrived today. Getting closer to reality! Welcome to the club! What barrel did you go with? Thanks! 16" ARP |
|
|
|
WI, USA
|
Posted: 10/15/2014 11:07:07 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GI_Brat:
Thanks! 16" ARP Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GI_Brat:
Originally Posted By gtfoxy:
Originally Posted By GI_Brat:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Loaded ammo available in a week or so! Great! My wolverine parts arrived today. Getting closer to reality! Welcome to the club! What barrel did you go with? Thanks! 16" ARP You are certainly going to like it. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/17/2014 11:35:30 AM EDT
[#32]
Announcement!!
We now have TWO ammunition manufacturers on board. JB's firearms in Wisconsin and Mid-South Munitions in Mississippi! JB's Firearms AND "The Brass General" will both offer ready to load brass as well! We will be seeing their offerings shortly! Woo-Hoo!!! |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/17/2014 11:36:37 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Announcement!! We now have TWO ammunition manufacturers on board. JB's firearms in Wisconsin and Mid-South Munitions in Mississippi! JB's Firearms AND "The Brass General" will both offer ready to load brass as well! We will be seeing their offerings shortly! Woo-Hoo!!! That is awesome news, this caliber is taking off. glad i got in early
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/17/2014 11:53:59 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Announcement!! We now have TWO ammunition manufacturers on board. JB's firearms in Wisconsin and Mid-South Munitions in Mississippi! JB's Firearms AND "The Brass General" will both offer ready to load brass as well! We will be seeing their offerings shortly! Woo-Hoo!!! Excellent news, thanks!!! 
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/17/2014 3:14:03 PM EDT
[#35]
BAM!!
That's the bomb!!! |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/17/2014 5:05:25 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Announcement!! We now have TWO ammunition manufacturers on board. JB's firearms in Wisconsin and Mid-South Munitions in Mississippi! JB's Firearms AND "The Brass General" will both offer ready to load brass as well! We will be seeing their offerings shortly! Woo-Hoo!!! Brass be converted or will the headstamp read Wolverine? |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/17/2014 10:38:05 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cag40Navy:
Brass be converted or will the headstamp read Wolverine? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cag40Navy:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Announcement!! We now have TWO ammunition manufacturers on board. JB's firearms in Wisconsin and Mid-South Munitions in Mississippi! JB's Firearms AND "The Brass General" will both offer ready to load brass as well! We will be seeing their offerings shortly! Woo-Hoo!!! Brass be converted or will the headstamp read Wolverine? No stamped brass yet... but getting closer! |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/17/2014 10:56:35 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
No stamped brass yet... but getting closer! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By Cag40Navy: Brass be converted or will the headstamp read Wolverine? No stamped brass yet... but getting closer! If you get the pressure up to 100,000 psi or so, those pesky headstamps go away.
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2014 8:40:10 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher:
If you get the pressure up to 100,000 psi or so, those pesky headstamps go away. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By Cag40Navy: Brass be converted or will the headstamp read Wolverine? No stamped brass yet... but getting closer! If you get the pressure up to 100,000 psi or so, those pesky headstamps go away. Ha yeah and a guy at a local shop said I could just grind them off with a belt sander. Eek! |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2014 1:54:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheHomelandSoldier]
[#40]
Getting ready for a demo shoot on November 1.... starting to pack up. 1250 rounds of JB's Firearms FACTORY 90TNT loads for the demo ready to go!
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2014 2:34:27 PM EDT
[#41]
I want some! |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2014 2:43:14 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GI_Brat:
I want some! Hit him up on the Wolverine forum my friend! There's more coming, too! |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/19/2014 1:27:51 PM EDT
[#43]
What factory flavors we going to get?
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/19/2014 10:55:47 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cag40Navy:
What factory flavors we going to get? I know of 90TNT and 100 grain AccuBond so far... although I hear Mid-South Munitions plans to oferr at least 4 different loads.... so we'll see! |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/20/2014 5:08:53 PM EDT
[#45]
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/20/2014 5:09:27 PM EDT
[#46]
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/20/2014 5:12:10 PM EDT
[#47]
the wolverine is quite the pig slayer
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/23/2014 9:23:58 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
I know of 90TNT and 100 grain AccuBond so far... although I hear Mid-South Munitions plans to oferr at least 4 different loads.... so we'll see! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By Cag40Navy:
What factory flavors we going to get? I know of 90TNT and 100 grain AccuBond so far... although I hear Mid-South Munitions plans to oferr at least 4 different loads.... so we'll see! A 100gr Acubond sounds fantastic. I'd love a 95gr TTSX load as well. I am fine rolling my own of course. What kind of velocities would be reasonable from a 16" with those two projectiles? |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2014 9:21:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TheHomelandSoldier]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Altair:
A 100gr Acubond sounds fantastic. I'd love a 95gr TTSX load as well. I am fine rolling my own of course. What kind of velocities would be reasonable from a 16" with those two projectiles? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Altair:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By Cag40Navy:
What factory flavors we going to get? I know of 90TNT and 100 grain AccuBond so far... although I hear Mid-South Munitions plans to oferr at least 4 different loads.... so we'll see! A 100gr Acubond sounds fantastic. I'd love a 95gr TTSX load as well. I am fine rolling my own of course. What kind of velocities would be reasonable from a 16" with those two projectiles? If you roll your own you can get 2550-2600fps out of the 100AB or 95TTSX. Loading on your own, as you know, can let you get closer to your lands giving you a little more case room, tighen up your headspace to extend case life and reduce pressure signs, etc. The "factory" offerings coming out will be loaded on the safer side (shorter, less velocity/pressure) since they have to accommodate for varying tolerances. The 90TNT loads available today from JB's Firearms are getting around 2700fps out of a 16" bbl. Handloading the 90TNT for example, one can creep on 2800fps. The 90TNT (Varmint/Plinking/Target) and the 100AB (Hunting) are my favorite bullets/loads so far. The 95TTSX (Hunting) in strong third. The AB's and TTSX are expensive bullets... so those will probably be offered in 20 round boxes. The 90TNT's are offered in 50 round boxes. |
|
|
|
FL, USA
|
Posted: 10/24/2014 3:55:33 PM EDT
[#50]
how does this facotry ammo compare to 300 BO factory ammo power wise? Oout of short short barrels, like 8-10"??
|
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
