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Posted: 9/15/2014 2:34:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Altair:
Where does one get the 90gr Gold Dot projectiles? You can't... RMR offers them as pulls from time to time in 500 and 1,000 count. They'll be here when they have them: http://www.shop.rmrbullets.com/277_c18.htm;jsessionid=0A35B9A56735886C7F9B1177A52F642D.m1plqscsfapp03 |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 5:03:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
I think we hit about 2400 with the Gold Dot out of the 8.2. Here's the chart I pulled for reference. That upper has been sent from place to place for people to play with. It is making its way back to me this week and it will be posted for sale. Here's the chart we got done before it started traveling: String:8.2"Pistol-90TNT-22.0gr.-4227 Date:,7/13/2014 Time:,4:24:39 PM Grains:,90 Hi Vel:,2433 Low Vel:,2331 Ave Vel:,2365 Ext Spread:,102 Std Dev:,42 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2433, 218.970,1182.846 2376, 213.840,1128.072 2331, 209.790,1085.747 2331, 209.790,1085.747 2355, 211.950,1108.220 no pressure signs String:8.2"Pistol-110VMAX-24.7gr.-1200R Date:,7/13/2014 Time:,4:22:14 PM Grains:,110 Hi Vel:,2229 Low Vel:,2196 Ave Vel:,2213 Ext Spread:,33 Std Dev:,14 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2222, 244.420,1205.820 2200, 242.000,1182.060 2229, 245.190,1213.429 2222, 244.420,1205.820 2196, 241.560,1177.766 no pressure signs 18.4gr.296-90GD-8.2"-pistol [email protected]" Date:,7/26/2014 Time:,5:11:13 PM Grains:,90 Hi Vel:,2331 Low Vel:,2267 Ave Vel:,2308 Ext Spread:,64 Std Dev:,25 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2302, 207.180,1058.900 2314, 208.260,1069.968 2326, 209.340,1081.094 2267, 204.030,1026.945 2331, 209.790,1085.747 18.7gr.296-90GD-8.2"-pistol [email protected]" Date:,7/26/2014 Time:,5:13:28 PM Grains:,90 Hi Vel:,2335 Low Vel:,2263 Ave Vel:,2312 Ext Spread:,72 Std Dev:,33 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2331, 209.790,1085.747 2322, 208.980,1077.379 2263, 203.670,1023.324 2335, 210.150,1089.477 19.0gr.296-90GD-8.2"-pistol [email protected]" Date:,7/26/2014 Time:,5:14:18 PM Grains:,90 Hi Vel:,2380 Low Vel:,2279 Ave Vel:,2345 Ext Spread:,101 Std Dev:,39 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2368, 213.120,1120.489 2359, 212.310,1111.988 2380, 214.200,1131.874 2343, 210.870,1096.955 2279, 205.110,1037.846 19.3gr.296-90GD-8.2"-pistol [email protected]" Date:,7/26/2014 Time:,5:15:12 PM Grains:,90 Hi Vel:,2419 Low Vel:,2318 Ave Vel:,2383 Ext Spread:,101 Std Dev:,38 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2393, 215.370,1144.273 2398, 215.820,1149.059 2389, 215.010,1140.450 2419, 217.710,1169.273 2318, 208.620,1073.670 19.6gr.296-90GD-8.2"-pistol [email protected]" Date:,7/26/2014 Time:,5:15:50 PM Grains:,90 Hi Vel:,2460 Low Vel:,2385 Ave Vel:,2419 Ext Spread:,75 Std Dev:,27 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2415, 217.350,1165.409 2385, 214.650,1136.635 2460, 221.400,1209.245 2411, 216.990,1161.552 2424, 218.160,1174.112 And ha I hear ya'... any spare parts turn into another upper. Here's the short list of powders that have really been proving fruitful: 1680, 5744, 1200-R, AA2200, 4227, H110/296 IN PISTOL BARREL ONLY, 4198 works but is slow, same with 4227 fr the most part. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By 1slow01z71:
Im just anal 
I pretty much have all my barrels cut to suck the can right up to the handguard. Your 16" results have been about where I figured theyd be which isn't enough for me to jump ship but your 8" results are awesome. Youre getting about 200fps over what Im getting in my 8.2" 300blk with the same weight but what really appeals to me is a 90gr gold dot at what 2500? I shoot the speer 90gr TNTs out of my 12.5" 6.8 with good results as well. Im definitely surprised at the efficiency of this cartridge in the shorter lengths given the longer bearing surface for the same weight as a 30cal. What powder have yall settled on for the 90-110gr bullets? After my current 300blk SBR upper is converted to an integral Ill have a spare can thatll need a home, so of course an upper has to be built for it  I think we hit about 2400 with the Gold Dot out of the 8.2. Here's the chart I pulled for reference. That upper has been sent from place to place for people to play with. It is making its way back to me this week and it will be posted for sale. Here's the chart we got done before it started traveling: String:8.2"Pistol-90TNT-22.0gr.-4227 Date:,7/13/2014 Time:,4:24:39 PM Grains:,90 Hi Vel:,2433 Low Vel:,2331 Ave Vel:,2365 Ext Spread:,102 Std Dev:,42 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2433, 218.970,1182.846 2376, 213.840,1128.072 2331, 209.790,1085.747 2331, 209.790,1085.747 2355, 211.950,1108.220 no pressure signs String:8.2"Pistol-110VMAX-24.7gr.-1200R Date:,7/13/2014 Time:,4:22:14 PM Grains:,110 Hi Vel:,2229 Low Vel:,2196 Ave Vel:,2213 Ext Spread:,33 Std Dev:,14 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2222, 244.420,1205.820 2200, 242.000,1182.060 2229, 245.190,1213.429 2222, 244.420,1205.820 2196, 241.560,1177.766 no pressure signs 18.4gr.296-90GD-8.2"-pistol [email protected]" Date:,7/26/2014 Time:,5:11:13 PM Grains:,90 Hi Vel:,2331 Low Vel:,2267 Ave Vel:,2308 Ext Spread:,64 Std Dev:,25 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2302, 207.180,1058.900 2314, 208.260,1069.968 2326, 209.340,1081.094 2267, 204.030,1026.945 2331, 209.790,1085.747 18.7gr.296-90GD-8.2"-pistol [email protected]" Date:,7/26/2014 Time:,5:13:28 PM Grains:,90 Hi Vel:,2335 Low Vel:,2263 Ave Vel:,2312 Ext Spread:,72 Std Dev:,33 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2331, 209.790,1085.747 2322, 208.980,1077.379 2263, 203.670,1023.324 2335, 210.150,1089.477 19.0gr.296-90GD-8.2"-pistol [email protected]" Date:,7/26/2014 Time:,5:14:18 PM Grains:,90 Hi Vel:,2380 Low Vel:,2279 Ave Vel:,2345 Ext Spread:,101 Std Dev:,39 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2368, 213.120,1120.489 2359, 212.310,1111.988 2380, 214.200,1131.874 2343, 210.870,1096.955 2279, 205.110,1037.846 19.3gr.296-90GD-8.2"-pistol [email protected]" Date:,7/26/2014 Time:,5:15:12 PM Grains:,90 Hi Vel:,2419 Low Vel:,2318 Ave Vel:,2383 Ext Spread:,101 Std Dev:,38 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2393, 215.370,1144.273 2398, 215.820,1149.059 2389, 215.010,1140.450 2419, 217.710,1169.273 2318, 208.620,1073.670 19.6gr.296-90GD-8.2"-pistol [email protected]" Date:,7/26/2014 Time:,5:15:50 PM Grains:,90 Hi Vel:,2460 Low Vel:,2385 Ave Vel:,2419 Ext Spread:,75 Std Dev:,27 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2415, 217.350,1165.409 2385, 214.650,1136.635 2460, 221.400,1209.245 2411, 216.990,1161.552 2424, 218.160,1174.112 And ha I hear ya'... any spare parts turn into another upper. Here's the short list of powders that have really been proving fruitful: 1680, 5744, 1200-R, AA2200, 4227, H110/296 IN PISTOL BARREL ONLY, 4198 works but is slow, same with 4227 fr the most part. Looks like the 110grn Vmax were pretty efficient from that short of a barrel. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 6:05:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
You can't... RMR offers them as pulls from time to time in 500 and 1,000 count. They'll be here when they have them: http://www.shop.rmrbullets.com/277_c18.htm;jsessionid=0A35B9A56735886C7F9B1177A52F642D.m1plqscsfapp03 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By Altair:
Where does one get the 90gr Gold Dot projectiles? You can't... RMR offers them as pulls from time to time in 500 and 1,000 count. They'll be here when they have them: http://www.shop.rmrbullets.com/277_c18.htm;jsessionid=0A35B9A56735886C7F9B1177A52F642D.m1plqscsfapp03 Another good option is the Nosler BSB's. In gross generalities, these are a tougher bullet than the electroplated ATK loads, but they are also less accurate and may have mild feed issues in picky rifles due to shorter COAL and blunter nose. |
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Posted: 9/16/2014 11:43:51 AM EDT
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Where are the pics of the animals taken?
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Posted: 9/16/2014 1:46:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheHomelandSoldier]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BIGGDAWG:
Where are the pics of the animals taken? this looks like an awesome all around caliber for hunting. This is all I have so far... Texas. Now that season is starting, and we have more shooters out there, I'm hoping to see more. "Shot this little pig with a 100gr AB with 20.6grs 5744. That load is a little warm! 20.0grs would be better. I was probably running about 2575fps. About a 70 yard shot. The bullet should have exited about where the left ear is on the pig. I cleaned the pig to see if there was any bullet left inside. As far as I can tell the AB split in half on the front part of the bullet. The pic with the gun is the entrance hole and the bottom pic is where part of the bullet exited out. In that pic, part of the bullet made a 90 degree left turn to make that exit wound. The other part of the bullet exited the ear. Pretty much all I use is ABs and seen the front half of the bullet split in half like that before. But never make a sharp turn like that. That pig was dead before it came to a sliding stop. I'm glad I decided not to go home!" 
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Posted: 9/16/2014 10:23:01 PM EDT
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Send me one, I'll get you all the pics you want of dead animals
Are you going to carry Hs 270AR? Id really love a 12" to replace my 12.5" 6.8. |
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Posted: 9/16/2014 11:02:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheHomelandSoldier]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1slow01z71:
Send me one, I'll get you all the pics you want of dead animals
Are you going to carry Hs 270AR? Id really love a 12" to replace my 12.5" 6.8. I happen to have the first 8.2" WLV upper ever built with a Vortex 1-4x24 Crossfire II with a marked upper receiver and port door on my lap that is for sale, $1100.00 shipped, $750 shipped without the optics... It's a collectible at this point... And I'm not sure on the 270AR. |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 11:15:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheHomelandSoldier]
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Posted: 9/19/2014 7:59:43 AM EDT
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Good news sounds like mark will have the 18" barrels in on sat. so i will finally be getting my Wolverine.
Can't wait to start throwing some copper and lead down range. 90 goldots and 100 accubonds with 1200r and 1680 are waiting. thanks mark |
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Posted: 9/19/2014 9:44:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TheHomelandSoldier]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BIGGDAWG:
Good news sounds like mark will have the 18" barrels in on sat. so i will finally be getting my Wolverine. Can't wait to start throwing some copper and lead down range. 90 goldots and 100 accubonds with 1200r and 1680 are waiting. thanks mark Happy to have you aboard sir. If the USPS can have their shit together for once I may get them today, ship tomorrow. Fingers crossed! |
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Posted: 9/19/2014 10:22:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Dr69er]
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Mark, will you be stocking 20" barrel lengths...?
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Posted: 9/19/2014 10:30:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dr69er:
Mark, will you be stocking 20" barrel lengths...? Vic, the only 20" I have right now is a Savage pre-fit that is getting built as I type. We'll use it to see if there are substantial velocity gains in a barrel that long. The cartridge as it turns out is very efficient and the increase may be negligible. However, with the right powders on the slower end we might be able to take advantage of the increased length. Won't know for sure until that Savage is running. The 18" that are going out hopefully this weekend will give us some good clues as well. Short answer, though is - I plan to make every barrel length and type and profile that makes sense if people want them! |
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Posted: 9/19/2014 10:43:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Vic, the only 20" I have right now is a Savage pre-fit that is getting built as I type. We'll use it to see if there are substantial velocity gains in a barrel that long. The cartridge as it turns out is very efficient and the increase may be negligible. However, with the right powders on the slower end we might be able to take advantage of the increased length. Won't know for sure until that Savage is running. The 18" that are going out hopefully this weekend will give us some good clues as well. Short answer, though is - I plan to make every barrel length and type and profile that makes sense if people want them! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By Dr69er:
Mark, will you be stocking 20" barrel lengths...? Vic, the only 20" I have right now is a Savage pre-fit that is getting built as I type. We'll use it to see if there are substantial velocity gains in a barrel that long. The cartridge as it turns out is very efficient and the increase may be negligible. However, with the right powders on the slower end we might be able to take advantage of the increased length. Won't know for sure until that Savage is running. The 18" that are going out hopefully this weekend will give us some good clues as well. Short answer, though is - I plan to make every barrel length and type and profile that makes sense if people want them! Thanks. |
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Posted: 9/19/2014 10:48:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dr69er:
Thanks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dr69er:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By Dr69er:
Mark, will you be stocking 20" barrel lengths...? Vic, the only 20" I have right now is a Savage pre-fit that is getting built as I type. We'll use it to see if there are substantial velocity gains in a barrel that long. The cartridge as it turns out is very efficient and the increase may be negligible. However, with the right powders on the slower end we might be able to take advantage of the increased length. Won't know for sure until that Savage is running. The 18" that are going out hopefully this weekend will give us some good clues as well. Short answer, though is - I plan to make every barrel length and type and profile that makes sense if people want them! Thanks. No sir thank you for your help back when I was getting started! I don't forget things like that... you're a good man Charlie Brown. |
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Posted: 9/19/2014 1:11:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
No sir thank you for your help back when I was getting started! I don't forget things like that... you're a good man Charlie Brown. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By Dr69er:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By Dr69er:
Mark, will you be stocking 20" barrel lengths...? Vic, the only 20" I have right now is a Savage pre-fit that is getting built as I type. We'll use it to see if there are substantial velocity gains in a barrel that long. The cartridge as it turns out is very efficient and the increase may be negligible. However, with the right powders on the slower end we might be able to take advantage of the increased length. Won't know for sure until that Savage is running. The 18" that are going out hopefully this weekend will give us some good clues as well. Short answer, though is - I plan to make every barrel length and type and profile that makes sense if people want them! Thanks. No sir thank you for your help back when I was getting started! I don't forget things like that... you're a good man Charlie Brown. Thanks Mark, anytime for you, you gave me a chuckle with the Charlie Brown comment. |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 10:47:41 PM EDT
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18" Stainless barrels are in and they look good!
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Posted: 9/20/2014 11:23:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
18" Stainless barrels are in and they look good! http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a226/TheHomelandSoldier/20140920_192324.jpg That barrel looks great Mark...Gotta love these .223 Wildcats
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Posted: 9/20/2014 11:58:54 PM EDT
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Although I must assume that chamber dimensions will match the 16", I can't wait to see how pressures work in this one. Plus, the extra .25" of twist may have an effect. It is not the same barrel, just longer. I am anxiously awaiting data on this one!!
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Posted: 9/21/2014 1:42:15 AM EDT
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Please let me know what performance you get out of the Savage.
My best friend's youngest daughter has decided to take up hunting, and he's looking for her something. He's the guy who's son got his first deer with my 6.8 last year. 249 yards with a Meprolight M21 reflex sight and no magnification, 110gr AB at 2680fps, and one shot and down. The little girl is a crack shot too. He couldn't find a Savage fast enough locally to do a 6.8 for his son, so he went with a 7mm-08. Of course, the WLV would be a simple barrel swap on a .223 Savage. He just doesn't like hunting with an AR. Just got tired of carrying them all over the place after 9/11. I think a 20"- 22" would be more than enough for her and the ranges she'll be shooting. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:45:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lizARdman15:
Although I must assume that chamber dimensions will match the 16", I can't wait to see how pressures work in this one. Plus, the extra .25" of twist may have an effect. It is not the same barrel, just longer. I am anxiously awaiting data on this one!! Me too! Unfortunately, being stuck handling all of the sales and such, I don't even get to shoot much personally. It'seems a really bummer actually. The barrel will act differently, and perhaps show some velocity gains, but we just don't know until we get some feedback. The first barrel went to biggdawg as he is definitely the right guy around here to put up some very helpful results. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:46:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pavlovwolf:
Please let me know what performance you get out of the Savage. My best friend's youngest daughter has decided to take up hunting, and he's looking for her something. He's the guy who's son got his first deer with my 6.8 last year. 249 yards with a Meprolight M21 reflex sight and no magnification, 110gr AB at 2680fps, and one shot and down. The little girl is a crack shot too. He couldn't find a Savage fast enough locally to do a 6.8 for his son, so he went with a 7mm-08. Of course, the WLV would be a simple barrel swap on a .223 Savage. He just doesn't like hunting with an AR. Just got tired of carrying them all over the place after 9/11. I think a 20"- 22" would be more than enough for her and the ranges she'll be shooting. I'm expecting the Savage to kick arse. We're doing very well in the gas gun so I can only imagine what we'll get out of the Savage. Results from the Savage will be up soon. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:16:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BIGGDAWG]
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tracking shows the barrel getting here tuesday. so i will get it together, get some max oal to the lands measured then get a bunch of test loads ready for sunday. I may sneak a few shots off on saturday before our youth seminars at my local Izaak walton.
should get some data posted sunday night. played with my dillon rt1200 trimmer and my 7.62x40 custom trim die and looks like it will work perfect for trimming the cases. got the upper trued today so all is ready to assemble. actually going to convert some of my x40 brass to wolverine brass |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:33:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BIGGDAWG:
tracking shows the barrel getting here tuesday. so i will get it together, get some max oal to the lands measured then get a bunch of test loads ready for sunday. I may sneak a few shots off on sunday before our youth seminars at my local Izaak walton. should get some data posted sunday night. played with my dillon rt1200 trimmer and my 7.62x40 custom trim die and looks like it will work perfect for trimming the cases. got the upper trued today so all is ready to assemble. actually going to convert some of my x40 brass to wolverine brass See, I knew I got excited for good reasons when you hopped in! |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 9:04:34 PM EDT
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getting my load charts ready now. first shots will only be to find some velocities and to find max charge for several powder/bullet combo's
then with that data i will go back out with some rounds for accuracy testing the following weekend. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 9:14:02 PM EDT
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biggdawg,
What little I know about you from the .277 and other interactions, I know your "results" posting will be a very scientific and well thought out/tested plan that will provide us all with useful info. With that said... The fate of the entire world rests on your shoulders. (OK, well... maybe not really! LOL) |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 10:55:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lizARdman15:
biggdawg, What little I know about you from the .277 and other interactions, I know your "results" posting will be a very scientific and well thought out/tested plan that will provide us all with useful info. With that said... The fate of the entire world rests on your shoulders. (OK, well... maybe not really! LOL) You can bet your bottom dollar BiggDawg will get the job done and done right. Eagerly waiting for his field results from his 18" barrel version... |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 11:56:45 PM EDT
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The .277 Wolverine now has its own forum! It's pretty infantile right now, but hey I just started it two hours ago...
.277 Wolverine Forum |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 3:17:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
The .277 Wolverine now has its own forum! It's pretty infantile right now, but hey I just started it two hours ago... .277 Wolverine Forum IIIIIIINNNNNN |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 7:00:18 AM EDT
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Well, I guess you can add me as a member on another gun site!!
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Posted: 9/22/2014 11:27:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BIGGDAWG]
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Posted: 9/22/2014 6:56:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BIGGDAWG:
thanks for the kind words guys will do my best. guess what the postman just delivered? so i guess i will have to get it together and take it out for a spin wed. after work <a href="http://s4.photobucket.com/user/BIGGDAWG800/media/20140922_101205_zpszn4lpmqf.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/BIGGDAWG800/20140922_101205_zpszn4lpmqf.jpg</a> <a href="http://s4.photobucket.com/user/BIGGDAWG800/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-09-22102854_zps66c9fb9e.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/BIGGDAWG800/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-09-22102854_zps66c9fb9e.jpg</a> Looks great, hopefully it will perform just as good. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 2:15:41 AM EDT
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Another kill for the Wolverine...
95 pound doe in Michigan shot at 95 yards with a 100 AccuBond... bullet passed through turned the lungs to jelly. 
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Posted: 9/23/2014 12:49:40 PM EDT
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Sweet deer. the wolverine is taking them down.
got mine built last night here ar a few pics 
Brass fresh out of the Biggdawg Tumbler 
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Posted: 9/23/2014 1:21:21 PM EDT
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Good looking rifle there biggdawg.
Fine building skills and hardware. You are almost there to be putting bullets downrange! |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 1:41:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lizARdman15:
Good looking rifle there biggdawg. Fine building skills and hardware. You are almost there to be putting bullets downrange! lead and copper will be going down range tomorrow. won't have a lot of time but i plan on running the 1680 and 100 AB pressure test with velocity and the 85 mpg with 300mp pressure test and velocity. that will be a good start so i can do accuracy on them sunday along with a few other powders. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 1:48:37 PM EDT
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I know you have a lot of testing to figure out what works, not to mention what will work best. I know I don't have to tell someone who already has so much wildcat experience under their belt, but have fun!
When you get caught up, I hope you will be able to run a few of the loads identical to some that we have put together for the 16" builds so that we can determine just how much effect the extra 2" make. There is so much difference in the bullets and loads in this round, it will be difficult to extrapolate data without identical loads. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 3:51:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lizARdman15:
I know you have a lot of testing to figure out what works, not to mention what will work best. I know I don't have to tell someone who already has so much wildcat experience under their belt, but have fun! When you get caught up, I hope you will be able to run a few of the loads identical to some that we have put together for the 16" builds so that we can determine just how much effect the extra 2" make. There is so much difference in the bullets and loads in this round, it will be difficult to extrapolate data without identical loads. get me a list of what you want tested/compared and i will work them in. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 4:09:54 PM EDT
[#38]
I see you've got 1680 there.
What weight bullets have you found for this that get's good combo of velocity and accuracy with 1680 ? Also, I'd look more but I'm cooking, since 1680 and Re7 are so close, have you tried Re7 with this caliber, what weights, etc? Reason being Re7 is my go to for 6.8 in bullets under 100gr, esp the 90TNT. I should be out of my finance funk in the next year or thereabouts, so I will be getting one, plus my buddy for his little girl as soon as he can depending on the Savage results. He and load together here, so combining components and powders would be great. Thanks |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 4:14:21 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pavlovwolf:
I see you've got 1680 there. What weight bullets have you found for this that get's good combo of velocity and accuracy with 1680 ? Also, I'd look more but I'm cooking, since 1680 and Re7 are so close, have you tried Re7 with this caliber, what weights, etc? Reason being Re7 is my go to for 6.8 in bullets under 100gr, esp the 90TNT. I should be out of my finance funk in the next year or thereabouts, so I will be getting one, plus my buddy for his little girl as soon as he can depending on the Savage results. He and load together here, so combining components and powders would be great. Thanks I just got my first barrel. yes i have 1680 along with many others including re7. it has been tested and accuracy is good but velocities are lower than what can be had with the 1680 from my research. my barrels is the first 18" the rest have been 16. bullet wise i only have a few lighter weight bullets. 85 mpg, a few 90 gold dots, 100 nosler accubond, 110 vmax and 120 sst |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 4:16:15 PM EDT
[#40]
Pavlov,
Yes R7 works well in the lighter weights. Check out the load info posted in different places now and you will see a few different bullet tests. I haven't tried R7 on anything except 120 sst with results inferior to what 1200R produces, but several people have tried <100 grn bullets with good FPS. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 4:27:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lizARdman15]
[#41]
biggdawg,
the bullets I have primarily tested were Horn 100 SP Horn 110 HPBT Sierra 110 ProHunt Horn Vmax Horn 120 sst I found that 1200R gave me the best fps than my other powders, BUT I did not try R7, 4227, 3031 in less than 120 gr bullets, I still do not have any 2200, 1680(unobtainium), 4198, or 5744 to try. The funny thing is that as poorly as the 120 sst "seemed" to perform, according to the Hornady ballistics calculator, it has the best retained energy and nearly as good of trajectory as all the bullets I tried. Sighted in at 200 yards, it rises no more than 1.5" and goes out to 250+/- yards before it drops more than 3". All that with over 800 ftlbs to around 275 yards. That sounds like a real deer dropper. Of course, pushing the 85-90 grain bullets to 2750-2800+ FPS does well too, but I have focused on the heavier bullets that are reasonable to use supersonic. ETA: If you don't have one of those bullets, I would send you some to work on. But, I think everyone is primarily interested in seeing you get this together and shot for initial testing. NO PRESSURE!! |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 5:10:05 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lizARdman15:
biggdawg, the bullets I have primarily tested were Horn 100 SP Horn 110 HPBT Sierra 110 ProHunt Horn Vmax Horn 120 sst I found that 1200R gave me the best fps than my other powders, BUT I did not try R7, 4227, 3031 in less than 120 gr bullets, I still do not have any 2200, 1680(unobtainium), 4198, or 5744 to try. The funny thing is that as poorly as the 120 sst "seemed" to perform, according to the Hornady ballistics calculator, it has the best retained energy and nearly as good of trajectory as all the bullets I tried. Sighted in at 200 yards, it rises no more than 1.5" and goes out to 250+/- yards before it drops more than 3". All that with over 800 ftlbs to around 275 yards. That sounds like a real deer dropper. Of course, pushing the 85-90 grain bullets to 2750-2800+ FPS does well too, but I have focused on the heavier bullets that are reasonable to use supersonic. ETA: If you don't have one of those bullets, I would send you some to work on. But, I think everyone is primarily interested in seeing you get this together and shot for initial testing. NO PRESSURE!! out of those i have the 110 vmax and 120 sst. I have 1200r so on the second round of testing i will load some of them up with the 1200. if you want me to test a few of the other ones pm me and i will give you my address and load some up. i will get some shooting in tomorrow night unless it rains. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 5:18:35 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BIGGDAWG:
Sweet deer. the wolverine is taking them down. got mine built last night here ar a few pics <a href="http://s4.photobucket.com/user/BIGGDAWG800/media/20140922_211755_zps4941cd8b.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/BIGGDAWG800/20140922_211755_zps4941cd8b.jpg</a> <a href="http://s4.photobucket.com/user/BIGGDAWG800/media/20140922_211701_zps370d993a.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/BIGGDAWG800/20140922_211701_zps370d993a.jpg</a> Brass fresh out of the Biggdawg Tumbler <a href="http://s4.photobucket.com/user/BIGGDAWG800/media/20140923_092140_zps5d932e6b.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/BIGGDAWG800/20140923_092140_zps5d932e6b.jpg</a> Great looking set-up as usual, good luck. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 5:29:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BIGGDAWG]
[#44]
here is my load chart for the first round.
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Posted: 9/24/2014 1:01:16 PM EDT
[#45]
first rounds ready for range tonight. Cant wait
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Posted: 9/24/2014 9:01:48 PM EDT
[#46]
Ok with out further procrastination here is what i got.
as you can see on the accubonds i had some primer leakage on a couple so i stopped. i think i may have had some extra headspace. haven't had a chance to measure yet. so i will retest cautiously when i go for accuracy. all rounds locked back even the lowest charges i was using a shell catcher so don't know where ejection was but it may be getting over gassed when at the top end. will put on an adjustable gas block for the next test. These are all aa1680 loads, all are trimmed to 1.535, wolf srm primers and it was 63 and overcast for the test with no wind. i was cleaning every 3 shots since it was break in. one shot per load for velocity doesn't get an average but i do it this way so i have an idea where max is then i drop a grain and some change and load up some ladders. with the 85 and 90's i don't think you can fit more powder in the case. the 85's were maxing out at 25.1 so i would back off .3 grains for max when i retest. same with the 90 gd probably going to call 24.5-24.6 max for now when i retest. 
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Posted: 9/24/2014 10:07:43 PM EDT
[#47]
Big,
That is crazy impressive that you got all that together. I have to say that I am tired and cant see straight right now, but, if I am reading the data right, there is not a lot of velocity increase over the 16". In some cases, very little to only about 50+ fps. My brain cant wrap around sadistics right now, so I will look it over again in the morning. BTW, I am sending some testing material your way tomorrow. Thanks for your hard work on this. You have done us proud and I will gladly give 87 bajillion internet points for the effort(when you get to a million bajillion, you can cash those in for a cup of McDs coffee)  .
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Posted: 9/24/2014 11:02:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheHomelandSoldier]
[#48]
I'm curious to see how the other powders do for sure. They look promising so far!
This is fun thanks B! |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 7:53:37 PM EDT
[#49]
I have a handful of minor blemishes 18" barrels I'm selling for $179.99 shipped if anyone is interested.
Also got some more 10.5" barrels in today. |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:29:50 PM EDT
[#50]
Are headspace gauges for sale yet? I'm not seeing them at your store.
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