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Link Posted: 3/25/2014 11:06:46 PM EDT
[#1]
Shot some of zackzel's bullets, thanks for sending them, I didn't have any of them.

Bullet- 85MPG
Powder- 4227
OAL- 2.120" bottom of crimp groove
Hits- 2.170"
Primer-41
Case-LC
Trim- 1.535"
SH- +.008"
Gas Port- .098"
Barrel- 16" PacNor

String:,4 21.0gr. 4227
Accuracy, .8"
Date:,3/25/2014
Time:,8:21:37 PM
Grains:,85
Hi Vel:,2721
Low Vel:,2677
Ave Vel:,2702
Ext Spread:,44
Std Dev:,16
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2721, 231.285,1397.261
2677, 227.545,1352.438
2704, 229.840,1379.856
2699, 229.415,1374.758
2710, 230.350,1385.987
no lock back on empty mag on three rounds

String:,3 21.3gr. 4227
Accuracy, 1.0"
Date:,3/25/2014
Time:,8:20:59 PM
Grains:,85
Hi Vel:,2726
Low Vel:,2677
Ave Vel:,2699
Ext Spread:,49
Std Dev:,17
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2704, 229.840,1379.856
2699, 229.415,1374.758
2677, 227.545,1352.438
2693, 228.905,1368.653
2726, 231.710,1402.401
no lock back on empty mag on 1 round

String:,1, 21.6gr. 4227
Accuracy, 1.2"
Date:,3/25/2014
Time:,8:18:07 PM
Grains:,85
Hi Vel:,2693
Low Vel:,2650
Ave Vel:,2678
Ext Spread:,43
Std Dev:,16
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2650, 225.250,1325.294
2693, 228.905,1368.653
2677, 227.545,1352.438
2688, 228.480,1363.575
2682, 227.970,1357.495
all locked back on empty mag

String:,2 21.9gr. 4227
Accuracy, 1.1"
Date:,3/25/2014
Time:,8:20:02 PM
Grains:,85
Hi Vel:,2760
Low Vel:,2721
Ave Vel:,2734
Ext Spread:,39
Std Dev:,15
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2732, 232.220,1408.581
2726, 231.710,1402.401
2721, 231.285,1397.261
2760, 234.600,1437.602
2732, 232.220,1408.581
all locked back on empty mag


also tried some W296, chrono stopped reading after the first string,(too dark).
will finish ladder when enough light for chrono to work.
these were loaded to 2.100" middle of the crimp groove, every thing else the same.


String:,5 19.0gr. W296
Accuracy, 1.0"
Date:,3/25/2014
Time:,8:22:24 PM
Grains:,85
Hi Vel:,2754
Low Vel:,2699
Ave Vel:,2727
Ext Spread:,55
Std Dev:,24
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2754, 234.090,1431.358
2737, 232.645,1413.742
2743, 233.155,1419.947
2699, 229.415,1374.758
2704, 229.840,1379.856
all locked back on empty mag

1680 would probably work better but almost out.
Link Posted: 3/25/2014 11:27:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:


I believe I do... If you haven't PM'd me your full name, then I might not. .
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Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By Talenel:
I can't wait to get my hands on a barrel dies ect. Got my bin set up yet THS?


I believe I do... If you haven't PM'd me your full name, then I might not. .



I think my full name is right next to my credit card number when I order
Link Posted: 3/25/2014 11:31:11 PM EDT
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I think my full name is right next to my credit card number when I order
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Originally Posted By Talenel:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By Talenel:
I can't wait to get my hands on a barrel dies ect. Got my bin set up yet THS?


I believe I do... If you haven't PM'd me your full name, then I might not. .



I think my full name is right next to my credit card number when I order


It is but how do I know who was you?!!?!?  Just PM me your name already!!!!  LOL.
Link Posted: 3/30/2014 9:55:47 AM EDT
[#4]
I shot some more of Zack's bullets today. I also swapped in a new bolt carrier, it seems to be a bit tighter than the old one. None of the W296 loads cycled.


Bullet- 85MPG
Powder- W296
OAL- 2.10" middle of crimp groove
Hits- 2.170"
Primer-41
Case-LC
Trim- 1.535"
SH- +.008"
Gas Port- .098"
Barrel- 16" PacNor


String:,1, 85MPG, 18.2gr. W296
Accuracy, 1.5"
Date:,3/29/2014
Time:,4:05:32 PM
Grains:,85
Hi Vel:,2599
Low Vel:,2525
Ave Vel:,2562
Ext Spread:,74
Std Dev:,31
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2599, 220.915,1274.774
2583, 219.555,1259.126
2525, 214.625,1203.215
2569, 218.365,1245.514
2534, 215.390,1211.808


String:,2, 85MPG, 18.4gr., W296
Accuracy, 1.3"
Date:,3/29/2014
Time:,4:07:34 PM
Grains:,85
Hi Vel:,2604
Low Vel:,2569
Ave Vel:,2588
Ext Spread:,35
Std Dev:,15
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2599, 220.915,1274.774
2569, 218.365,1245.514
2604, 221.340,1279.683
2594, 220.490,1269.874
2574, 218.790,1250.367


String:,3, 85MPG, 18.6gr., W296
Accuracy, 1.0"
Date:,3/29/2014
Time:,4:08:17 PM
Grains:,85
Hi Vel:,2624
Low Vel:,2564
Ave Vel:,2596
Ext Spread:,60
Std Dev:,24
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2578, 219.130,1254.257
2609, 221.765,1284.602
2624, 223.040,1299.416
2609, 221.765,1284.602
2564, 217.940,1240.671

These are warm!
String:,4, 85MPG, 18.8gr., W296
Accuracy, 1.7"
Date:,3/29/2014
Time:,4:09:02 PM
Grains:,85
Hi Vel:,2682
Low Vel:,2614
Ave Vel:,2632
Ext Spread:,68
Std Dev:,27
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2614, 222.190,1289.531
2619, 222.615,1294.469
2682, 227.970,1357.495
2624, 223.040,1299.416
2624, 223.040,1299.416

These are hot!
String:,5, 85MPG, 19.0gr., W296
Accuracy, .8"
Date:,3/29/2014
Time:,4:09:57 PM
Grains:,85
Hi Vel:,2666
Low Vel:,2609
Ave Vel:,2633
Ext Spread:,57
Std Dev:,22
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2666, 226.610,1341.346
2619, 222.615,1294.469
2645, 224.825,1320.298
2629, 223.465,1304.373
2609, 221.765,1284.602

These are very hot!
String:,6, 85MPG, 19.2gr.,W296
Accuracy, 1.8"
Date:,3/29/2014
Time:,4:10:32 PM
Grains:,85
Hi Vel:,2682
Low Vel:,2645
Ave Vel:,2658
Ext Spread:,37
Std Dev:,15
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2666, 226.610,1341.346
2650, 225.250,1325.294
2645, 224.825,1320.298
2682, 227.970,1357.495
2650, 225.250,1325.294

used some 1680 with these, this seems to be the best powder I have tried so far with these bullets. They seem to like being close to the lands as well. All of these cycled fine.


Bullet- 85MPG
Powder- 1680
OAL- 2.160""
Hits- 2.170"
Primer-41
Case-LC
Trim- 1.535"
SH- +.008"
Gas Port- .098"
Barrel- 16" PacNor


String:,1, 85MPG, 24.0gr. 1680
Accuracy, 1.0"
Date:,3/29/2014
Time:,5:31:31 PM
Grains:,85
Hi Vel:,2640
Low Vel:,2569
Ave Vel:,2610
Ext Spread:,71
Std Dev:,26
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2619, 222.615,1294.469
2640, 224.400,1315.311
2604, 221.340,1279.683
2619, 222.615,1294.469
2569, 218.365,1245.514


String:,2, 85MPG, 24.3gr. 1680
Accuracy, .8"
Date:,3/29/2014
Time:,5:32:28 PM
Grains:,85
Hi Vel:,2699
Low Vel:,2640
Ave Vel:,2656
Ext Spread:,59
Std Dev:,22
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2699, 229.415,1374.758
2677, 227.545,1352.438
2656, 225.760,1331.302
2661, 226.185,1336.319
2640, 224.400,1315.311


String:,3, 85MPG, 24.6gr., 1680
Accuracy, .6"
Date:,3/29/2014
Time:,5:33:04 PM
Grains:,85
Hi Vel:,2732
Low Vel:,2688
Ave Vel:,2704
Ext Spread:,44
Std Dev:,17
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2693, 228.905,1368.653
2732, 232.220,1408.581
2699, 229.415,1374.758
2710, 230.350,1385.987
2688, 228.480,1363.575

These are warm! running up against compression
String:,4, 85MPG, 25.0gr. 1680
Accuracy, 1.1"
Date:,3/29/2014
Time:,5:33:39 PM
Grains:,85
Hi Vel:,2783
Low Vel:,2726
Ave Vel:,2747
Ext Spread:,57
Std Dev:,22
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2743, 233.155,1419.947
2783, 236.555,1461.662
2754, 234.090,1431.358
2726, 231.710,1402.401
2732, 232.220,1408.581
Link Posted: 3/30/2014 10:38:11 AM EDT
[#5]
I'd like to see some data with 110's & 120's with Auto Comp.
Link Posted: 3/31/2014 11:07:16 AM EDT
[#6]
Bullet- Hornady 110BTHP-WC
Powder- 1200R
OAL- 2.180"
Hits- 2.200"
Primer-41
Case-LC
Trim- 1.535"
SH- +.008"
Gas Port- .098"
Barrel- 16" PacNor


String:,3, Hornady 110BTHP,WC, 24.7gr., 1200R
Accuracy, .7"
Date:,3/30/2014
Time:,4:51:49 PM
Grains:,110
Hi Vel:,2492
Low Vel:,2455
Ave Vel:,2470
Ext Spread:,37
Std Dev:,15
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2464, 271.040,1482.777
2460, 270.600,1477.966
2455, 270.050,1471.964
2492, 274.120,1516.667
2482, 273.020,1504.520


String:,4,Hornady 110BTHP,WC, 25.0gr., 1200R
Accuracy, .7"
Date:,3/30/2014
Time:,4:53:50 PM
Grains:,110
Hi Vel:,2501
Low Vel:,2469
Ave Vel:,2489
Ext Spread:,32
Std Dev:,12
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2487, 273.570,1510.587
2501, 275.110,1527.642
2469, 271.590,1488.800
2492, 274.120,1516.667
2496, 274.560,1521.540


String:,1,Hornady 110BTHP,WC, 25.3gr., 1200R
Accuracy, 1.1"
Date:,3/30/2014
Time:,4:54:34 PM
Grains:,110
Hi Vel:,2520
Low Vel:,2501
Ave Vel:,2509
Ext Spread:,19
Std Dev:,9
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2501, 275.110,1527.642
2506, 275.660,1533.757
2501, 275.110,1527.642
2520, 277.200,1550.941
2520, 277.200,1550.941

This is warm, and compressed!
String:,2,Hornady 110BTHP,WC, 25.6gr., 1200R
Accuracy, .7"
Date:,3/30/2014
Time:,4:55:20 PM
Grains:,110
Hi Vel:,2564
Low Vel:,2525
Ave Vel:,2548
Ext Spread:,39
Std Dev:,15
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2525, 277.750,1557.102
2554, 280.940,1593.075
2559, 281.490,1599.318
2539, 279.290,1574.417
2564, 282.040,1605.574
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 1:16:06 PM EDT
[#7]
Any new news on this?  If not free bump.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 2:37:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By VEELA:
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There is actually, sorry for poor updating.  I have 75 barrels and 50 Hornady New Dimension Custom die sets on order; they should all come in by around August "something".  (50) ARP 16" Scout, (10) Custom 10.5" stainless pistol/SBR barrels and (15) Custom 18" Stainless modified lightweight "hunting" barrels.  I have a volunteer that will be testing a special 1:8 twist 10.5" barrel I had made with subs using 150/180 and maybe 200 grain bullets.  After the folks that signed up for pre-order, I should have a few of each left to offer.  I already have the Little Crow WFT 1's made specifically for the Wolverine and available.  I also have WFT 2's with Wolverine inserts available.  I have slot gauges coming in from Sheridan Engineering, and, I have one company on the line to do brass conversions for folks and am in talks with another company to produce loaded ammunition for those that don't reload.

Regarding load data - I've posted a ton, the winning powders so far have been 1680 and 1200R.  Unfortunately, we have run very low on 1680 so we haven't been doing a ton sf shooting lately, as well as bad weather hitting with constant rain.  We'll get more data up sporadically, though.  The real fun will be when these other barrels get into peoples' hands and they start doing their own load work and posting results.

Long story short on performance, with 16" barrel we are getting the following velocities without pressure signs while shooting sub-MOA groups:

90TNT - 2675+
95TTSX - 2600+
100AccuBond - 2625+
110SierraPH - 2475+

Take the 110 Sierro Pro Hunter for example; SSA's standard (Non-Tac) load for the 6.8 SPC does 2500fps.  The Wolverine is doing 2475+.  Granted; hotter, hand-loaded 6.8 will always beat the Wolverine's hotter, hand-loads but that is to be expected, the 6.8 has a lot more case capacity.  For a nice, lightweight, versatile, AR15 Mil-Spec "with a barrel-swap" package, we are VERY happy with the results.  The 95TTSX for example has an expansion threshold of 1600fps... this means the Wolverine using a 95TTSX still opens up out to 350+ yards.  That, in an AR package using regular 5.56 bolts, regular 5.56 mags, in .277 calibre, is sweet.  

The gun is running flawlessly; cycling without issues using (unmodified in ANY way) standard 5.56 GI mags, Pmags, and a few other brands.  Carbine buffer system, rifle buffer system, M16 carrier, AR15 carrier, no matter, all good.

We're going to have a lot of fun with this.  Unfortunately, it all takes longer than we want it to.  We're hoping to hunt with it soon, so that we can post terminal results as well.

Thanks!
Link Posted: 4/29/2014 10:47:26 PM EDT
[#9]
Update on the rifle. I shot steel with some buddies today, sent 200 rounds down range and had no malfunctions. I was using 30rd. pmags, with what has become my standard 90GD load of 25gr. of 1200R seated to the crimp groove. Its probably not fast, but it sure is accurate.  Other powders/loads such as 1680 would be faster, but I'm out of it right now.
Link Posted: 4/30/2014 3:28:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gtfoxy] [#10]
Doing an excellent job with this M!

I soooo want to shoot a wolverine...

For reference to a 6.8 factory load in the SSA 110grn Accubonds, I see about 2650fps out of my 18". This little booger is right on its heels! I am quite impressed how opening the 223 rem case did for performance.
Link Posted: 4/30/2014 3:43:48 PM EDT
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Doing an excellent job with this M!

I soooo want to shoot a wolverine...

For reference to a 6.8 factory load in the SSA 110grn Accubonds, I see about 2650fps out of my 18". This little booger is right on its heels! I am quite impressed how opening the 223 rem case did for performance.
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Ah yes, the beauty of the .223 based wildcats...Great job Mark.
Link Posted: 5/1/2014 2:33:13 PM EDT
[#12]
Thanks fellas.  In just a few short months, barrels and dies will be in about 50 peoples' hands, and then the real fun starts!  (The next 90 days will feel like 90 years for me I'm sure...).

-Mark
Link Posted: 5/6/2014 1:55:04 PM EDT
[#13]
Looks like my custom engraved uppers are done and headed my way....  they turned out Sweet!

Link Posted: 5/6/2014 6:51:00 PM EDT
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Looks like my custom engraved uppers are done and headed my way....  they turned out Sweet!

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Link Posted: 5/7/2014 11:29:48 AM EDT
[#15]
those uppers look good . I been following this round development for a while and wish you the best luck with it . I look forward to seeing range reports from different people .
Link Posted: 5/23/2014 12:13:21 PM EDT
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those uppers look good . I been following this round development for a while and wish you the best luck with it . I look forward to seeing range reports from different people .
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Same here bud. I ordered some custom barrels including pistol length, and hopefully I hear some news on the dies soon.
Link Posted: 6/23/2014 11:24:56 PM EDT
[#17]
ARP Scout barrels are in... Going to play with one for the next few weeks before drilling all the ports, and, by the time that is done the dies should be in, too. Just about a month away from launch!
Link Posted: 6/23/2014 11:48:33 PM EDT
[#18]
Have you tried one with carbine gas yet?
Link Posted: 6/23/2014 11:59:32 PM EDT
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Not yet, but I have some 10.5" with pistol gas barrels coming in as well. Those should be fun.
Link Posted: 7/1/2014 10:00:35 PM EDT
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Edit: Disregard.
Link Posted: 7/2/2014 12:53:15 AM EDT
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We hit a 2575 average today with a 110 V-Max over 25.3 grains of 1200-R in the ARP 16" barrel today. I'm happy with that.
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That is roughly the same as I get with the .308" 110gr V-Max in 7.62x40 in a 16" barrel so I would agree that is more than satisfactory.
Link Posted: 7/2/2014 11:57:40 AM EDT
[#22]
This is going to be fun!  ARP is prepping the first batch of barrels, dies should be here in a few weeks, and I should have some sets available for anyone here interested.
Link Posted: 7/2/2014 2:40:45 PM EDT
[#23]
Man I just noticed this thread,  good work op now if only the military follow your foot steps that would be awesome.
Link Posted: 7/2/2014 5:05:01 PM EDT
[#24]
This is impressive. This seems to have a lot of promise!
Link Posted: 7/2/2014 8:33:42 PM EDT
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That is roughly the same as I get with the .308" 110gr V-Max in 7.62x40 in a 16" barrel so I would agree that is more than satisfactory.
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Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
We hit a 2575 average today with a 110 V-Max over 25.3 grains of 1200-R in the ARP 16" barrel today. I'm happy with that.


That is roughly the same as I get with the .308" 110gr V-Max in 7.62x40 in a 16" barrel so I would agree that is more than satisfactory.


Edited post. Didn't check primer pockets before posting. Too much pocket loosening to say a 2575 average is a good read.  Appears to be over pressure a bit.
Link Posted: 7/3/2014 9:07:50 AM EDT
[#26]
With 6.8 forum being down, do you have an alternative site your posting on? I don't want to miss any of your awesome  sales or updates on wolvie dies.
Link Posted: 7/3/2014 9:36:41 AM EDT
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With 6.8 forum being down, do you have an alternative site your posting on? I don't want to miss any of your awesome  sales or updates on wolvie dies.
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None of the pre-order folks will miss out on dies, no worries. They're not due in until around August 1st.

As far as sales go, I don't have plans to run one this weekend.  Well, not yet at least. Don't forget my email address is [email protected] if you need to contact me.
Link Posted: 7/5/2014 10:49:01 PM EDT
[#28]
Shot some Vmaxes over the chrono from the new ARP barrel before the site went down. The ARP barrel is faster than the PacNor with the same charge, but it also shows more pressure. If loaded to the same velocity, the pressure is about equal, maybe slightly less in the ARP. Everyone needs to keep this in mind when developing loads for their new barrel. The loads listed in the pages before this page were all shot from the PacNor barrel, and need to be reduced if your loading for a ARP barrel. I am very happy with the results from the ARP so far, the top loads are pretty heavily compressed with the Pacnor barrel, and if the ARP can reach the same velocity with less powder, then the compression wont be as severe.

I will not go past 24.7gr. with this barrel. The 25.3gr. loads were beating the pockets up pretty bad, a couple of them wouldn't hold a primer after resizing. The cases were on their second resize from this barrel. these are the cases that I used to finalize the gas port size.

Bullet- Hornady 110vmax-WC
Powder- 1200R
OAL- 2.185"
Hits- 2.200"
Primer-41
Case-LC
Trim- 1.535"
SH- +.008"
Gas Port- .098"
Barrel- 16" ARP



110Vmax-24.4gr.-1200R-ARP-Scout
Date:,7/3/2014
Time:,10:03:31 PM
Grains:,110
Hi Vel:,2534
Low Vel:,2478
Ave Vel:,2505
Ext Spread:,56
Std Dev:,20
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2506, 275.660,1533.757
2478, 272.580,1499.674
2534, 278.740,1568.222
2501, 275.110,1527.642
2510, 276.100,1538.657


110Vmax-24.7gr.-1200R-ARP,Scout
Date:,7/3/2014
Time:,9:59:01 PM
Grains:,110
Hi Vel:,2544
Low Vel:,2510
Ave Vel:,2525
Ext Spread:,34
Std Dev:,13
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2525, 227.250,1273.993
2544, 228.960,1293.238
2534, 228.060,1283.091
2515, 226.350,1263.922
2510, 225.900,1258.901


110Vmax-25.0gr.-1200R-ARP-Scout
Date:,7/3/2014
Time:,10:06:50 PM
Grains:,110
Hi Vel:,2574
Low Vel:,2549
Ave Vel:,2561
Ext Spread:,25
Std Dev:,9
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2564, 282.040,1605.574
2574, 283.140,1618.122
2549, 280.390,1586.843
2559, 281.490,1599.318
2559, 281.490,1599.318


110Vmax-25.3gr.-1200R-ARP-Scout
Date:,7/3/2014
Time:,10:09:17 PM
Grains:,110
Hi Vel:,2588
Low Vel:,2569
Ave Vel:,2576
Ext Spread:,19
Std Dev:,7
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2578, 283.580,1623.156
2574, 283.140,1618.122
2569, 282.590,1611.842
2588, 284.680,1635.772
2574, 283.140,1618.122
Link Posted: 7/5/2014 10:49:18 PM EDT
[#29]
Bullet- Hornady 110Vmax-WC
Powder- 1200R
OAL- 2.185"
Hits- 2.205"
Primer-41
Case-LC
Trim- 1.535"
SH- +.008"
Gas Port- .098"
Barrel- 16" PacNor


110Vmax-24.7gr.-1200R
Accuracy-.5"
Date:,6/29/2014
Time:,6:14:27 PM
Grains:,110
Hi Vel:,2473
Low Vel:,2464
Ave Vel:,2466
Ext Spread:,9
Std Dev:,4
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2464, 271.040,1482.777
2464, 271.040,1482.777
2464, 271.040,1482.777
2473, 272.030,1493.628
2469, 271.590,1488.800

These were 110Vmax without canalure,
they didn't shoot very accurately
110Vmax-25.0gr.1200R
Accuracy-2.75"
Date:,6/29/2014
Time:,6:12:52 PM
Grains:,110
Hi Vel:,2520
Low Vel:,2473
Ave Vel:,2495
Ext Spread:,47
Std Dev:,17
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2520, 277.200,1550.941
2492, 274.120,1516.667
2501, 275.110,1527.642
2492, 274.120,1516.667
2473, 272.030,1493.628

110Vmax-25.3gr.-1200R
Accuracy-2.75"
Date:,6/29/2014
Time:,6:11:59 PM
Grains:,110
Hi Vel:,2539
Low Vel:,2525
Ave Vel:,2531
Ext Spread:,14
Std Dev:,5
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2539, 279.290,1574.417
2530, 278.300,1563.275
2525, 277.750,1557.102
2534, 278.740,1568.222
2530, 278.300,1563.275


110Vmax-25.6gr.-1200R
Accuracy-3.0"
Date:,6/29/2014
Time:,6:10:50 PM
Grains:,110
Hi Vel:,2564
Low Vel:,2515
Ave Vel:,2543
Ext Spread:,49
Std Dev:,18
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2539, 279.290,1574.417
2564, 282.040,1605.574
2554, 280.940,1593.075
2515, 276.650,1544.793
2544, 279.840,1580.624
Link Posted: 7/11/2014 9:09:09 AM EDT
[#30]
Die sets inbound from Hornady, they shipped out yesterday. ARP barrels getting ports drilled and available shortly. This is about to get fun!

Link Posted: 7/11/2014 11:38:43 AM EDT
[#31]
When will I be able to order the die set. It showed OOS on the website last time I checked.
Link Posted: 7/11/2014 11:55:16 AM EDT
[#32]
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Originally Posted By lizARdman15:
When will I be able to order the die set. It showed OOS on the website last time I checked.
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They're not here yet, so yes none available.  They'll be available to the public in the next week after I receive, take a look, post, etc.  I have a webstore where barrels and die sets and such can be purchased, but I'm not a sponsor here so I don't want to break any rules by advertising my company.  You can shoot me an IM if you like and I'll direct you.
Link Posted: 7/11/2014 12:52:10 PM EDT
[#33]
If it was me i would just check out marks web page at

http://www.maddogweapons.com/

great guy to work with.

man maybe i will be getting presents soon  
Link Posted: 7/11/2014 3:36:05 PM EDT
[#34]
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Originally Posted By BIGGDAWG:

man maybe i will be getting presents soon  
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You will indeed...
Link Posted: 7/14/2014 4:24:54 PM EDT
[#35]
Did some playing and had an 8.2" pistol barrel made... did pretty good, but we can push it a little bit faster with more time and better powder selection:

prototype pistol barrel...

String:8.2"Pistol-90TNT-22.0gr.-4227
Date:,7/13/2014
Time:,4:24:39 PM
Grains:,90
Hi Vel:,2433
Low Vel:,2331
Ave Vel:,2365
Ext Spread:,102
Std Dev:,42
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2433, 218.970,1182.846
2376, 213.840,1128.072
2331, 209.790,1085.747
2331, 209.790,1085.747
2355, 211.950,1108.220
no pressure signs


String:8.2"Pistol-110VMAX-24.7gr.-1200R
Date:,7/13/2014
Time:,4:22:14 PM
Grains:,110
Hi Vel:,2229
Low Vel:,2196
Ave Vel:,2213
Ext Spread:,33
Std Dev:,14
Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs
2222, 244.420,1205.820
2200, 242.000,1182.060
2229, 245.190,1213.429
2222, 244.420,1205.820
2196, 241.560,1177.766
no pressure signs
Link Posted: 7/16/2014 10:07:55 AM EDT
[#36]
Dies are in, barrels starting to roll in, people will be out shooting shortly!
Link Posted: 7/16/2014 10:50:56 AM EDT
[#37]
Made the order, so now I should be set on the barrel and dies.

My only problem is that 1680 & 1200R powders are non-existent at my location.
I know that I need a fast rifle powder or magnum pistol powder, but 1-IDK if they have been tested or 2-IDK if there is load data.
I will be loading several different 100-120 gr bullets.
Have you plugged any more powders, etc. into that fancy load calculator to help keep us from bleeding.
Although I have been looking since April-ish, right now I only have these powders on hand that I think would even be close to suitable:
Pistol
H110
2400
Power Pistol-doubt will work
CFE Pistol-doubt will work
IMR4227
Rifle
H335
Just a smidge of R7
IMR3031 - maybe
TAC
IMR4064
Varget   (I have all idea that these last three are too slow, but I am not sure)
Link Posted: 7/16/2014 11:06:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TheHomelandSoldier] [#38]
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Originally Posted By lizARdman15:
Made the order, so now I should be set on the barrel and dies.

My only problem is that 1680 & 1200R powders are non-existent at my location.
I know that I need a fast rifle powder or magnum pistol powder, but 1-IDK if they have been tested or 2-IDK if there is load data.
I will be loading several different 100-120 gr bullets.
Have you plugged any more powders, etc. into that fancy load calculator to help keep us from bleeding.
Although I have been looking since April-ish, right now I only have these powders on hand that I think would even be close to suitable:
Pistol
H110
2400
Power Pistol-doubt will work
CFE Pistol-doubt will work
IMR4227
Rifle
H335
Just a smidge of R7
IMR3031 - maybe
TAC
IMR4064
Varget   (I have all idea that these last three are too slow, but I am not sure)
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The load data posted is actual results, not numbers pulled from QL or anything. We started running out of the best performing powders (1680 and 1200-R so far).  There is load data using 4227, 4198, H322 and some others but they lacked a bit in speed due to them being stick and we are always fighting the case capacity battle. There will be some AA2200 testing/numbers posted soon, we expect it to behave much like the 1200-R.

I would NOT experiment with pistol powders like H110 or 296, etc until others have done so that don't have their face behind the bolt. We saw very fast pressure jumps/spikes when experimenting with them so we backed off.
Link Posted: 7/16/2014 11:21:59 AM EDT
[#39]
I have gone thru all these pages and have found a few testings of some of the powders I have listed, but not with the bullet weights.

Believe me, care will be taken in working this round up and I was not likely to try the specific pistol powders.

By burn rate and my wild ass guess, it looks like, of my stock powders, the IMR4227 primarily and the IMR 3031 may do best with the heavier bullet weights.  

1200R and 1680 haven't been in stock locally for a long while.

The biggest point I wanted to make is that I don't want to bleed.  Blood doesn't bother me, but I do like keeping it inside me!!

Needless to say, I am anxiously awaiting some more testing, but I will be loading to my comfort level and reporting back asap.
Link Posted: 7/16/2014 11:26:10 AM EDT
[#40]
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Originally Posted By lizARdman15:
I have gone thru all these pages and have found a few testings of some of the powders I have listed, but not with the bullet weights.

Believe me, care will be taken in working this round up and I was not likely to try the specific pistol powders.

By burn rate and my wild ass guess, it looks like, of my stock powders, the IMR4227 primarily and the IMR 3031 may do best with the heavier bullet weights.  

1200R and 1680 haven't been in stock locally for a long while.

The biggest point I wanted to make is that I don't want to bleed.  Blood doesn't bother me, but I do like keeping it inside me!!

Needless to say, I am anxiously awaiting some more testing, but I will be loading to my comfort level and reporting back asap.
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I understand 100%.  We did/tried as much as we could with what we could get. I think now that folks will be experimenting/shooting in all parts of the country we will see more data/results posted.

Link Posted: 7/20/2014 2:44:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheHomelandSoldier] [#41]
Barrels (on pre-order, first batch already in and shipped, next batch due in the next week or so, and then more after that), Die Sets, trimmers, etc. all available!

<--- WOLVERINES!

People will be out shooting shortly!
Link Posted: 7/20/2014 5:01:32 PM EDT
[#42]
good for you I hope this new round works for everybody
Link Posted: 7/21/2014 10:49:47 PM EDT
[#43]
Here's a video of a young man firing his first .277 Wolverine shot; today was a good day:

Link Posted: 7/27/2014 10:10:47 PM EDT
[#44]
Looks Like I'll get my set tomorrow!
Link Posted: 7/28/2014 4:11:29 PM EDT
[#45]
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Originally Posted By Talenel:
Looks Like I'll get my set tomorrow!
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Sweet be sure to post some pics!  Which reminds me... I need to start posting build pics that others have posted as well.  Will try to do some tonight.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 11:06:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheHomelandSoldier] [#46]
Thought I'd post some pics of the WLV builds that are out there already, runnin' great and lookin' good:
















Link Posted: 7/30/2014 7:52:03 AM EDT
[#47]
Those are some nice looking builds.

trying to decide if i want to cerekote my upper and lower for this build
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 8:24:31 AM EDT
[#48]
Ya'll have some very cool and pretty rifles put together. Mostly cool and I like 'em a lot.

When mine is together, please don't laugh. My rifle will be VERY utilitarian, and I don't care. As long as I can put some .277 holes in various critters out to about 300 yards, I am good.

USPS tracking says Thursday!
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 9:14:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: gtfoxy] [#49]
Mark,

Dropped 1680 & some TNT's off at Bruces's last night. He was forming brass getting ready for the barrel to show.

Can't wait to get a chance to wring it out myself!

What?... Did someone say New Manufacturer Loaded .277WLV ammo?

Link Posted: 7/30/2014 6:16:58 PM EDT
[#50]
Is it possible for .277 Wolverine to shoot heavier sub sonic bullets? Either way, when I can afford it, ill send some green your way to build myself one.
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