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Shot some of zackzel's bullets, thanks for sending them, I didn't have any of them.
Bullet- 85MPG Powder- 4227 OAL- 2.120" bottom of crimp groove Hits- 2.170" Primer-41 Case-LC Trim- 1.535" SH- +.008" Gas Port- .098" Barrel- 16" PacNor String:,4 21.0gr. 4227 Accuracy, .8" Date:,3/25/2014 Time:,8:21:37 PM Grains:,85 Hi Vel:,2721 Low Vel:,2677 Ave Vel:,2702 Ext Spread:,44 Std Dev:,16 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2721, 231.285,1397.261 2677, 227.545,1352.438 2704, 229.840,1379.856 2699, 229.415,1374.758 2710, 230.350,1385.987 no lock back on empty mag on three rounds String:,3 21.3gr. 4227 Accuracy, 1.0" Date:,3/25/2014 Time:,8:20:59 PM Grains:,85 Hi Vel:,2726 Low Vel:,2677 Ave Vel:,2699 Ext Spread:,49 Std Dev:,17 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2704, 229.840,1379.856 2699, 229.415,1374.758 2677, 227.545,1352.438 2693, 228.905,1368.653 2726, 231.710,1402.401 no lock back on empty mag on 1 round String:,1, 21.6gr. 4227 Accuracy, 1.2" Date:,3/25/2014 Time:,8:18:07 PM Grains:,85 Hi Vel:,2693 Low Vel:,2650 Ave Vel:,2678 Ext Spread:,43 Std Dev:,16 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2650, 225.250,1325.294 2693, 228.905,1368.653 2677, 227.545,1352.438 2688, 228.480,1363.575 2682, 227.970,1357.495 all locked back on empty mag String:,2 21.9gr. 4227 Accuracy, 1.1" Date:,3/25/2014 Time:,8:20:02 PM Grains:,85 Hi Vel:,2760 Low Vel:,2721 Ave Vel:,2734 Ext Spread:,39 Std Dev:,15 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2732, 232.220,1408.581 2726, 231.710,1402.401 2721, 231.285,1397.261 2760, 234.600,1437.602 2732, 232.220,1408.581 all locked back on empty mag also tried some W296, chrono stopped reading after the first string,(too dark). will finish ladder when enough light for chrono to work. these were loaded to 2.100" middle of the crimp groove, every thing else the same. String:,5 19.0gr. W296 Accuracy, 1.0" Date:,3/25/2014 Time:,8:22:24 PM Grains:,85 Hi Vel:,2754 Low Vel:,2699 Ave Vel:,2727 Ext Spread:,55 Std Dev:,24 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2754, 234.090,1431.358 2737, 232.645,1413.742 2743, 233.155,1419.947 2699, 229.415,1374.758 2704, 229.840,1379.856 all locked back on empty mag 1680 would probably work better but almost out. |
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Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
I believe I do... If you haven't PM'd me your full name, then I might not. . View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By Talenel:
I can't wait to get my hands on a barrel dies ect. Got my bin set up yet THS? I believe I do... If you haven't PM'd me your full name, then I might not. . I think my full name is right next to my credit card number when I order |
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Originally Posted By Talenel:
I think my full name is right next to my credit card number when I order View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Talenel:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Originally Posted By Talenel:
I can't wait to get my hands on a barrel dies ect. Got my bin set up yet THS? I believe I do... If you haven't PM'd me your full name, then I might not. . I think my full name is right next to my credit card number when I order It is but how do I know who was you?!!?!? Just PM me your name already!!!! LOL. |
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I shot some more of Zack's bullets today. I also swapped in a new bolt carrier, it seems to be a bit tighter than the old one. None of the W296 loads cycled.
Bullet- 85MPG Powder- W296 OAL- 2.10" middle of crimp groove Hits- 2.170" Primer-41 Case-LC Trim- 1.535" SH- +.008" Gas Port- .098" Barrel- 16" PacNor String:,1, 85MPG, 18.2gr. W296 Accuracy, 1.5" Date:,3/29/2014 Time:,4:05:32 PM Grains:,85 Hi Vel:,2599 Low Vel:,2525 Ave Vel:,2562 Ext Spread:,74 Std Dev:,31 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2599, 220.915,1274.774 2583, 219.555,1259.126 2525, 214.625,1203.215 2569, 218.365,1245.514 2534, 215.390,1211.808 String:,2, 85MPG, 18.4gr., W296 Accuracy, 1.3" Date:,3/29/2014 Time:,4:07:34 PM Grains:,85 Hi Vel:,2604 Low Vel:,2569 Ave Vel:,2588 Ext Spread:,35 Std Dev:,15 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2599, 220.915,1274.774 2569, 218.365,1245.514 2604, 221.340,1279.683 2594, 220.490,1269.874 2574, 218.790,1250.367 String:,3, 85MPG, 18.6gr., W296 Accuracy, 1.0" Date:,3/29/2014 Time:,4:08:17 PM Grains:,85 Hi Vel:,2624 Low Vel:,2564 Ave Vel:,2596 Ext Spread:,60 Std Dev:,24 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2578, 219.130,1254.257 2609, 221.765,1284.602 2624, 223.040,1299.416 2609, 221.765,1284.602 2564, 217.940,1240.671 These are warm! String:,4, 85MPG, 18.8gr., W296 Accuracy, 1.7" Date:,3/29/2014 Time:,4:09:02 PM Grains:,85 Hi Vel:,2682 Low Vel:,2614 Ave Vel:,2632 Ext Spread:,68 Std Dev:,27 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2614, 222.190,1289.531 2619, 222.615,1294.469 2682, 227.970,1357.495 2624, 223.040,1299.416 2624, 223.040,1299.416 These are hot! String:,5, 85MPG, 19.0gr., W296 Accuracy, .8" Date:,3/29/2014 Time:,4:09:57 PM Grains:,85 Hi Vel:,2666 Low Vel:,2609 Ave Vel:,2633 Ext Spread:,57 Std Dev:,22 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2666, 226.610,1341.346 2619, 222.615,1294.469 2645, 224.825,1320.298 2629, 223.465,1304.373 2609, 221.765,1284.602 These are very hot! String:,6, 85MPG, 19.2gr.,W296 Accuracy, 1.8" Date:,3/29/2014 Time:,4:10:32 PM Grains:,85 Hi Vel:,2682 Low Vel:,2645 Ave Vel:,2658 Ext Spread:,37 Std Dev:,15 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2666, 226.610,1341.346 2650, 225.250,1325.294 2645, 224.825,1320.298 2682, 227.970,1357.495 2650, 225.250,1325.294 used some 1680 with these, this seems to be the best powder I have tried so far with these bullets. They seem to like being close to the lands as well. All of these cycled fine. Bullet- 85MPG Powder- 1680 OAL- 2.160"" Hits- 2.170" Primer-41 Case-LC Trim- 1.535" SH- +.008" Gas Port- .098" Barrel- 16" PacNor String:,1, 85MPG, 24.0gr. 1680 Accuracy, 1.0" Date:,3/29/2014 Time:,5:31:31 PM Grains:,85 Hi Vel:,2640 Low Vel:,2569 Ave Vel:,2610 Ext Spread:,71 Std Dev:,26 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2619, 222.615,1294.469 2640, 224.400,1315.311 2604, 221.340,1279.683 2619, 222.615,1294.469 2569, 218.365,1245.514 String:,2, 85MPG, 24.3gr. 1680 Accuracy, .8" Date:,3/29/2014 Time:,5:32:28 PM Grains:,85 Hi Vel:,2699 Low Vel:,2640 Ave Vel:,2656 Ext Spread:,59 Std Dev:,22 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2699, 229.415,1374.758 2677, 227.545,1352.438 2656, 225.760,1331.302 2661, 226.185,1336.319 2640, 224.400,1315.311 String:,3, 85MPG, 24.6gr., 1680 Accuracy, .6" Date:,3/29/2014 Time:,5:33:04 PM Grains:,85 Hi Vel:,2732 Low Vel:,2688 Ave Vel:,2704 Ext Spread:,44 Std Dev:,17 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2693, 228.905,1368.653 2732, 232.220,1408.581 2699, 229.415,1374.758 2710, 230.350,1385.987 2688, 228.480,1363.575 These are warm! running up against compression String:,4, 85MPG, 25.0gr. 1680 Accuracy, 1.1" Date:,3/29/2014 Time:,5:33:39 PM Grains:,85 Hi Vel:,2783 Low Vel:,2726 Ave Vel:,2747 Ext Spread:,57 Std Dev:,22 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2743, 233.155,1419.947 2783, 236.555,1461.662 2754, 234.090,1431.358 2726, 231.710,1402.401 2732, 232.220,1408.581 |
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I'd like to see some data with 110's & 120's with Auto Comp.
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Bullet- Hornady 110BTHP-WC
Powder- 1200R OAL- 2.180" Hits- 2.200" Primer-41 Case-LC Trim- 1.535" SH- +.008" Gas Port- .098" Barrel- 16" PacNor String:,3, Hornady 110BTHP,WC, 24.7gr., 1200R Accuracy, .7" Date:,3/30/2014 Time:,4:51:49 PM Grains:,110 Hi Vel:,2492 Low Vel:,2455 Ave Vel:,2470 Ext Spread:,37 Std Dev:,15 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2464, 271.040,1482.777 2460, 270.600,1477.966 2455, 270.050,1471.964 2492, 274.120,1516.667 2482, 273.020,1504.520 String:,4,Hornady 110BTHP,WC, 25.0gr., 1200R Accuracy, .7" Date:,3/30/2014 Time:,4:53:50 PM Grains:,110 Hi Vel:,2501 Low Vel:,2469 Ave Vel:,2489 Ext Spread:,32 Std Dev:,12 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2487, 273.570,1510.587 2501, 275.110,1527.642 2469, 271.590,1488.800 2492, 274.120,1516.667 2496, 274.560,1521.540 String:,1,Hornady 110BTHP,WC, 25.3gr., 1200R Accuracy, 1.1" Date:,3/30/2014 Time:,4:54:34 PM Grains:,110 Hi Vel:,2520 Low Vel:,2501 Ave Vel:,2509 Ext Spread:,19 Std Dev:,9 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2501, 275.110,1527.642 2506, 275.660,1533.757 2501, 275.110,1527.642 2520, 277.200,1550.941 2520, 277.200,1550.941 This is warm, and compressed! String:,2,Hornady 110BTHP,WC, 25.6gr., 1200R Accuracy, .7" Date:,3/30/2014 Time:,4:55:20 PM Grains:,110 Hi Vel:,2564 Low Vel:,2525 Ave Vel:,2548 Ext Spread:,39 Std Dev:,15 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2525, 277.750,1557.102 2554, 280.940,1593.075 2559, 281.490,1599.318 2539, 279.290,1574.417 2564, 282.040,1605.574 |
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Any new news on this? If not free bump.
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What would Chesty do? Proud Member of Team Ranstad
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Originally Posted By VEELA:
Any new news on this? If not free bump. View Quote There is actually, sorry for poor updating. I have 75 barrels and 50 Hornady New Dimension Custom die sets on order; they should all come in by around August "something". (50) ARP 16" Scout, (10) Custom 10.5" stainless pistol/SBR barrels and (15) Custom 18" Stainless modified lightweight "hunting" barrels. I have a volunteer that will be testing a special 1:8 twist 10.5" barrel I had made with subs using 150/180 and maybe 200 grain bullets. After the folks that signed up for pre-order, I should have a few of each left to offer. I already have the Little Crow WFT 1's made specifically for the Wolverine and available. I also have WFT 2's with Wolverine inserts available. I have slot gauges coming in from Sheridan Engineering, and, I have one company on the line to do brass conversions for folks and am in talks with another company to produce loaded ammunition for those that don't reload. Regarding load data - I've posted a ton, the winning powders so far have been 1680 and 1200R. Unfortunately, we have run very low on 1680 so we haven't been doing a ton sf shooting lately, as well as bad weather hitting with constant rain. We'll get more data up sporadically, though. The real fun will be when these other barrels get into peoples' hands and they start doing their own load work and posting results. Long story short on performance, with 16" barrel we are getting the following velocities without pressure signs while shooting sub-MOA groups: 90TNT - 2675+ 95TTSX - 2600+ 100AccuBond - 2625+ 110SierraPH - 2475+ Take the 110 Sierro Pro Hunter for example; SSA's standard (Non-Tac) load for the 6.8 SPC does 2500fps. The Wolverine is doing 2475+. Granted; hotter, hand-loaded 6.8 will always beat the Wolverine's hotter, hand-loads but that is to be expected, the 6.8 has a lot more case capacity. For a nice, lightweight, versatile, AR15 Mil-Spec "with a barrel-swap" package, we are VERY happy with the results. The 95TTSX for example has an expansion threshold of 1600fps... this means the Wolverine using a 95TTSX still opens up out to 350+ yards. That, in an AR package using regular 5.56 bolts, regular 5.56 mags, in .277 calibre, is sweet. The gun is running flawlessly; cycling without issues using (unmodified in ANY way) standard 5.56 GI mags, Pmags, and a few other brands. Carbine buffer system, rifle buffer system, M16 carrier, AR15 carrier, no matter, all good. We're going to have a lot of fun with this. Unfortunately, it all takes longer than we want it to. We're hoping to hunt with it soon, so that we can post terminal results as well. Thanks! |
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Update on the rifle. I shot steel with some buddies today, sent 200 rounds down range and had no malfunctions. I was using 30rd. pmags, with what has become my standard 90GD load of 25gr. of 1200R seated to the crimp groove. Its probably not fast, but it sure is accurate. Other powders/loads such as 1680 would be faster, but I'm out of it right now.
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Doing an excellent job with this M!
I soooo want to shoot a wolverine... For reference to a 6.8 factory load in the SSA 110grn Accubonds, I see about 2650fps out of my 18". This little booger is right on its heels! I am quite impressed how opening the 223 rem case did for performance. |
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Originally Posted By gtfoxy:
Doing an excellent job with this M! I soooo want to shoot a wolverine... For reference to a 6.8 factory load in the SSA 110grn Accubonds, I see about 2650fps out of my 18". This little booger is right on its heels! I am quite impressed how opening the 223 rem case did for performance. View Quote Ah yes, the beauty of the .223 based wildcats...Great job Mark. |
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Thanks fellas. In just a few short months, barrels and dies will be in about 50 peoples' hands, and then the real fun starts! (The next 90 days will feel like 90 years for me I'm sure...).
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Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
Looks like my custom engraved uppers are done and headed my way.... they turned out Sweet! http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a226/TheHomelandSoldier/91936230-4936-4124-808c-89ac985bd925.jpg View Quote |
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those uppers look good . I been following this round development for a while and wish you the best luck with it . I look forward to seeing range reports from different people .
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Originally Posted By jwb47:
those uppers look good . I been following this round development for a while and wish you the best luck with it . I look forward to seeing range reports from different people . View Quote Same here bud. I ordered some custom barrels including pistol length, and hopefully I hear some news on the dies soon. |
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ARP Scout barrels are in... Going to play with one for the next few weeks before drilling all the ports, and, by the time that is done the dies should be in, too. Just about a month away from launch!
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Have you tried one with carbine gas yet?
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Edit: Disregard.
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Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
We hit a 2575 average today with a 110 V-Max over 25.3 grains of 1200-R in the ARP 16" barrel today. I'm happy with that. View Quote That is roughly the same as I get with the .308" 110gr V-Max in 7.62x40 in a 16" barrel so I would agree that is more than satisfactory. |
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This is going to be fun! ARP is prepping the first batch of barrels, dies should be here in a few weeks, and I should have some sets available for anyone here interested.
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Man I just noticed this thread, good work op now if only the military follow your foot steps that would be awesome.
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This is impressive. This seems to have a lot of promise!
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I do believe that we have officially graduated from bad advice to a bad advice sandwich. - RedBlueLitez
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Originally Posted By Altair:
That is roughly the same as I get with the .308" 110gr V-Max in 7.62x40 in a 16" barrel so I would agree that is more than satisfactory. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Altair:
Originally Posted By TheHomelandSoldier:
We hit a 2575 average today with a 110 V-Max over 25.3 grains of 1200-R in the ARP 16" barrel today. I'm happy with that. That is roughly the same as I get with the .308" 110gr V-Max in 7.62x40 in a 16" barrel so I would agree that is more than satisfactory. Edited post. Didn't check primer pockets before posting. Too much pocket loosening to say a 2575 average is a good read. Appears to be over pressure a bit. |
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With 6.8 forum being down, do you have an alternative site your posting on? I don't want to miss any of your awesome sales or updates on wolvie dies.
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Originally Posted By skulley:
With 6.8 forum being down, do you have an alternative site your posting on? I don't want to miss any of your awesome sales or updates on wolvie dies. View Quote None of the pre-order folks will miss out on dies, no worries. They're not due in until around August 1st. As far as sales go, I don't have plans to run one this weekend. Well, not yet at least. Don't forget my email address is [email protected] if you need to contact me. |
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Shot some Vmaxes over the chrono from the new ARP barrel before the site went down. The ARP barrel is faster than the PacNor with the same charge, but it also shows more pressure. If loaded to the same velocity, the pressure is about equal, maybe slightly less in the ARP. Everyone needs to keep this in mind when developing loads for their new barrel. The loads listed in the pages before this page were all shot from the PacNor barrel, and need to be reduced if your loading for a ARP barrel. I am very happy with the results from the ARP so far, the top loads are pretty heavily compressed with the Pacnor barrel, and if the ARP can reach the same velocity with less powder, then the compression wont be as severe.
I will not go past 24.7gr. with this barrel. The 25.3gr. loads were beating the pockets up pretty bad, a couple of them wouldn't hold a primer after resizing. The cases were on their second resize from this barrel. these are the cases that I used to finalize the gas port size. Bullet- Hornady 110vmax-WC Powder- 1200R OAL- 2.185" Hits- 2.200" Primer-41 Case-LC Trim- 1.535" SH- +.008" Gas Port- .098" Barrel- 16" ARP 110Vmax-24.4gr.-1200R-ARP-Scout Date:,7/3/2014 Time:,10:03:31 PM Grains:,110 Hi Vel:,2534 Low Vel:,2478 Ave Vel:,2505 Ext Spread:,56 Std Dev:,20 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2506, 275.660,1533.757 2478, 272.580,1499.674 2534, 278.740,1568.222 2501, 275.110,1527.642 2510, 276.100,1538.657 110Vmax-24.7gr.-1200R-ARP,Scout Date:,7/3/2014 Time:,9:59:01 PM Grains:,110 Hi Vel:,2544 Low Vel:,2510 Ave Vel:,2525 Ext Spread:,34 Std Dev:,13 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2525, 227.250,1273.993 2544, 228.960,1293.238 2534, 228.060,1283.091 2515, 226.350,1263.922 2510, 225.900,1258.901 110Vmax-25.0gr.-1200R-ARP-Scout Date:,7/3/2014 Time:,10:06:50 PM Grains:,110 Hi Vel:,2574 Low Vel:,2549 Ave Vel:,2561 Ext Spread:,25 Std Dev:,9 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2564, 282.040,1605.574 2574, 283.140,1618.122 2549, 280.390,1586.843 2559, 281.490,1599.318 2559, 281.490,1599.318 110Vmax-25.3gr.-1200R-ARP-Scout Date:,7/3/2014 Time:,10:09:17 PM Grains:,110 Hi Vel:,2588 Low Vel:,2569 Ave Vel:,2576 Ext Spread:,19 Std Dev:,7 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2578, 283.580,1623.156 2574, 283.140,1618.122 2569, 282.590,1611.842 2588, 284.680,1635.772 2574, 283.140,1618.122 |
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Bullet- Hornady 110Vmax-WC
Powder- 1200R OAL- 2.185" Hits- 2.205" Primer-41 Case-LC Trim- 1.535" SH- +.008" Gas Port- .098" Barrel- 16" PacNor 110Vmax-24.7gr.-1200R Accuracy-.5" Date:,6/29/2014 Time:,6:14:27 PM Grains:,110 Hi Vel:,2473 Low Vel:,2464 Ave Vel:,2466 Ext Spread:,9 Std Dev:,4 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2464, 271.040,1482.777 2464, 271.040,1482.777 2464, 271.040,1482.777 2473, 272.030,1493.628 2469, 271.590,1488.800 These were 110Vmax without canalure, they didn't shoot very accurately 110Vmax-25.0gr.1200R Accuracy-2.75" Date:,6/29/2014 Time:,6:12:52 PM Grains:,110 Hi Vel:,2520 Low Vel:,2473 Ave Vel:,2495 Ext Spread:,47 Std Dev:,17 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2520, 277.200,1550.941 2492, 274.120,1516.667 2501, 275.110,1527.642 2492, 274.120,1516.667 2473, 272.030,1493.628 110Vmax-25.3gr.-1200R Accuracy-2.75" Date:,6/29/2014 Time:,6:11:59 PM Grains:,110 Hi Vel:,2539 Low Vel:,2525 Ave Vel:,2531 Ext Spread:,14 Std Dev:,5 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2539, 279.290,1574.417 2530, 278.300,1563.275 2525, 277.750,1557.102 2534, 278.740,1568.222 2530, 278.300,1563.275 110Vmax-25.6gr.-1200R Accuracy-3.0" Date:,6/29/2014 Time:,6:10:50 PM Grains:,110 Hi Vel:,2564 Low Vel:,2515 Ave Vel:,2543 Ext Spread:,49 Std Dev:,18 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2539, 279.290,1574.417 2564, 282.040,1605.574 2554, 280.940,1593.075 2515, 276.650,1544.793 2544, 279.840,1580.624 |
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Die sets inbound from Hornady, they shipped out yesterday. ARP barrels getting ports drilled and available shortly. This is about to get fun!
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When will I be able to order the die set. It showed OOS on the website last time I checked.
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Originally Posted By lizARdman15:
When will I be able to order the die set. It showed OOS on the website last time I checked. View Quote They're not here yet, so yes none available. They'll be available to the public in the next week after I receive, take a look, post, etc. I have a webstore where barrels and die sets and such can be purchased, but I'm not a sponsor here so I don't want to break any rules by advertising my company. You can shoot me an IM if you like and I'll direct you. |
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If it was me i would just check out marks web page at
http://www.maddogweapons.com/ great guy to work with. man maybe i will be getting presents soon |
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Did some playing and had an 8.2" pistol barrel made... did pretty good, but we can push it a little bit faster with more time and better powder selection:
prototype pistol barrel... String:8.2"Pistol-90TNT-22.0gr.-4227 Date:,7/13/2014 Time:,4:24:39 PM Grains:,90 Hi Vel:,2433 Low Vel:,2331 Ave Vel:,2365 Ext Spread:,102 Std Dev:,42 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2433, 218.970,1182.846 2376, 213.840,1128.072 2331, 209.790,1085.747 2331, 209.790,1085.747 2355, 211.950,1108.220 no pressure signs String:8.2"Pistol-110VMAX-24.7gr.-1200R Date:,7/13/2014 Time:,4:22:14 PM Grains:,110 Hi Vel:,2229 Low Vel:,2196 Ave Vel:,2213 Ext Spread:,33 Std Dev:,14 Velocity,Power Factor,Ft/Lbs 2222, 244.420,1205.820 2200, 242.000,1182.060 2229, 245.190,1213.429 2222, 244.420,1205.820 2196, 241.560,1177.766 no pressure signs |
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Dies are in, barrels starting to roll in, people will be out shooting shortly!
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Made the order, so now I should be set on the barrel and dies.
My only problem is that 1680 & 1200R powders are non-existent at my location. I know that I need a fast rifle powder or magnum pistol powder, but 1-IDK if they have been tested or 2-IDK if there is load data. I will be loading several different 100-120 gr bullets. Have you plugged any more powders, etc. into that fancy load calculator to help keep us from bleeding. Although I have been looking since April-ish, right now I only have these powders on hand that I think would even be close to suitable: Pistol H110 2400 Power Pistol-doubt will work CFE Pistol-doubt will work IMR4227 Rifle H335 Just a smidge of R7 IMR3031 - maybe TAC IMR4064 Varget (I have all idea that these last three are too slow, but I am not sure) |
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Originally Posted By lizARdman15:
Made the order, so now I should be set on the barrel and dies. My only problem is that 1680 & 1200R powders are non-existent at my location. I know that I need a fast rifle powder or magnum pistol powder, but 1-IDK if they have been tested or 2-IDK if there is load data. I will be loading several different 100-120 gr bullets. Have you plugged any more powders, etc. into that fancy load calculator to help keep us from bleeding. Although I have been looking since April-ish, right now I only have these powders on hand that I think would even be close to suitable: Pistol H110 2400 Power Pistol-doubt will work CFE Pistol-doubt will work IMR4227 Rifle H335 Just a smidge of R7 IMR3031 - maybe TAC IMR4064 Varget (I have all idea that these last three are too slow, but I am not sure) View Quote The load data posted is actual results, not numbers pulled from QL or anything. We started running out of the best performing powders (1680 and 1200-R so far). There is load data using 4227, 4198, H322 and some others but they lacked a bit in speed due to them being stick and we are always fighting the case capacity battle. There will be some AA2200 testing/numbers posted soon, we expect it to behave much like the 1200-R. I would NOT experiment with pistol powders like H110 or 296, etc until others have done so that don't have their face behind the bolt. We saw very fast pressure jumps/spikes when experimenting with them so we backed off. |
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I have gone thru all these pages and have found a few testings of some of the powders I have listed, but not with the bullet weights.
Believe me, care will be taken in working this round up and I was not likely to try the specific pistol powders. By burn rate and my wild ass guess, it looks like, of my stock powders, the IMR4227 primarily and the IMR 3031 may do best with the heavier bullet weights. 1200R and 1680 haven't been in stock locally for a long while. The biggest point I wanted to make is that I don't want to bleed. Blood doesn't bother me, but I do like keeping it inside me!! Needless to say, I am anxiously awaiting some more testing, but I will be loading to my comfort level and reporting back asap. |
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Originally Posted By lizARdman15:
I have gone thru all these pages and have found a few testings of some of the powders I have listed, but not with the bullet weights. Believe me, care will be taken in working this round up and I was not likely to try the specific pistol powders. By burn rate and my wild ass guess, it looks like, of my stock powders, the IMR4227 primarily and the IMR 3031 may do best with the heavier bullet weights. 1200R and 1680 haven't been in stock locally for a long while. The biggest point I wanted to make is that I don't want to bleed. Blood doesn't bother me, but I do like keeping it inside me!! Needless to say, I am anxiously awaiting some more testing, but I will be loading to my comfort level and reporting back asap. View Quote I understand 100%. We did/tried as much as we could with what we could get. I think now that folks will be experimenting/shooting in all parts of the country we will see more data/results posted. |
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Barrels (on pre-order, first batch already in and shipped, next batch due in the next week or so, and then more after that), Die Sets, trimmers, etc. all available!
<--- WOLVERINES! People will be out shooting shortly! |
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good for you I hope this new round works for everybody
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Looks Like I'll get my set tomorrow!
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Those are some nice looking builds.
trying to decide if i want to cerekote my upper and lower for this build |
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Ya'll have some very cool and pretty rifles put together. Mostly cool and I like 'em a lot.
When mine is together, please don't laugh. My rifle will be VERY utilitarian, and I don't care. As long as I can put some .277 holes in various critters out to about 300 yards, I am good. USPS tracking says Thursday! |
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Mark,
Dropped 1680 & some TNT's off at Bruces's last night. He was forming brass getting ready for the barrel to show. Can't wait to get a chance to wring it out myself! What?... Did someone say New Manufacturer Loaded .277WLV ammo? |
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Is it possible for .277 Wolverine to shoot heavier sub sonic bullets? Either way, when I can afford it, ill send some green your way to build myself one.
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