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Posted: 6/27/2012 6:36:30 PM
I shoot pigs with an AR, and mine's a .308.
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Posted: 6/27/2012 7:26:56 PM
Can't really call myself a full time boar hunter as I have only 1 kill right now and it was on a game preserve. They are slowly working their way up to my neck of the woods though
This is the rifle I used (i know it's not an AR, but that'll be next
Ammunition, handrolled and smokin':
Next rig that will be putting 'em down!:
Good luck all and enjoy! |
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Posted: 6/27/2012 8:46:54 PM
^^^^^^^^^^That's a nice pig, good cutters.
Like that rifle too. |
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Posted: 6/27/2012 8:51:39 PM
Just for S+G this is what a 95 gr .270 TTSX bullet moving at 3700 fps does to a 80# pig.
Shot it quartering towards me at about 75 yards. Blew out his entire ass end and other ham was pretty much gone. I looked around for the missing ass and ham parts but never found them. Its like they vaporized. His guts were all hanging out his ass end and the freekin thing was still trying to get up and go. ![]() |
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Posted: 6/27/2012 9:39:53 PM
Dang, literally blew his ass out, lol.
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Posted: 6/27/2012 9:51:12 PM
[Last Edit: 6/27/2012 9:55:16 PM by tammons]
That is just a regular 270 Winchester loaded up with a 95 gr TTSX over a case full of RL17.
Savage with a 21" stainless steel barrel I got for free - LOL. We have a 270 Weatherby too but whats the point of loading that thing up. That load Ruins meat though, but I hate the Rat Bastards so I wanted to try it out. I was trying to develop a load that would shoot within 4" out to 300 yards and this will do it. That said I also shoot 160 gr Partitions out of it, and the POI was way off to the side like 6-7" between the two at 100 yds so I backed off to a more civil 130 grainer at 3000. That action/rifle is going to end up as a 338-06 in a few days but I will keep the 270 barrel. Free stainless barrel - how many of those do you get in a lifetime. Just snagged that 338-06 barrel for $100. |
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Posted: 6/28/2012 8:49:15 AM
Originally Posted By TheRedGoat:
Originally Posted By Kibby:
Originally Posted By W88:
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The two mac daddy super whacker hog rifles I have owned were a 338/284 and a 375 ruger savages. Devastating. The 375 ruger was overkill but fun. I just don't believe in the term overkill, wacking game with lots more cartridge than needed is just, as you say, FUN!. Don ...not to mention ethical. There is a fine balance between a quick kill and less meat damage. Most hog hunters, myself included, are not the least bit concerned with a 'quick' kill. FWIW, I've hunted with folks who kind of 'lose their mind' when they see a feral hog and begin taking questionable shots. This grazing fire sometime puts houses downrange of their rounds. Large calibers are prone to traveling a long distance beyond the intended target. TRG All animals deserve a "guick kill", I strive for a clean kill and confirmation/recovery on everything I shoot at, including coyotes !!!! |
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Posted: 6/28/2012 9:01:37 AM
+1 for me too.
I have run into a number of people that intentionally shoot pigs or other pest animals in the gut so they drag of into the woods to die. To each his own I guess. |
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Posted: 6/28/2012 11:08:37 AM
Originally Posted By tammons:
+1 for me too. I have run into a number of people that intentionally shoot pigs or other pest animals in the gut so they drag of into the woods to die. To each his own I guess. I agree with the above 2 posters. No matter what animal you are hunting, they deserve a quick, humane kill. I hunt pretty much everything that is legal to hunt in the northwoods (hopefully wolves soon!) and I always strive for the quickest kill possible. Whether it's a coyote or deer, one shot, one kill is my goal. Even though I don't care for the fawn killing coyotes, they too deserve to be put down quickly. They're out there just trying to survive like the others, but just in a way that we don't agree with. Also, I don't think there is anything manly about using a caliber inadequate for the intended species, just ignorance. I always feel it's better to be over than under gunned. Sure, a .223/5.56 will cleanly kill them with a perfectly placed shot, but what happens when at that split second, the pig turns. Guess what, you've now wounded the pig and ensured it a slow, painful death. Let's say you were using a .308. Now you have a bullet that is at least 3x times the weight and however much more energy. That bullet will be able to destroy more on it's way through the animal, and hopefully your botched shot may not turn out to be a disaster. Shot placement is still key, but more power DOES offer a little more room for error regardless of what anybody says. This has just been my personal observation over the years. |
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Posted: 6/28/2012 11:11:27 AM
+1 for me too. Nothing but respect and reverence for my prey. I've hunted and fished my entire life, and believe it or not I still have a bad day when something goes wrong and I have to kill a fish becuase he's all bloodied up at the gills or something, or lose a deer and have to abandon the search. Heck I even hate to run over a squirrel!
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Posted: 6/28/2012 2:14:37 PM
This is just my 2cents
Having been a guide for a few years and having worked on game ranches for a few years I can say without a doubt that the idea of over gunning leads to overconfidence and bad shots. I do believe that we need to take game animals as quickly as possible. I don’t like to give it a Walt Disney humanistic feel good feeling though. Humane/KILLING is kinda of an oxymoron isn’t it. Hogs are a pestilence in Texas, just like a rat, I am not interested in how they die, just that they are dieing. Nature can be far more cruel than I could ever be without ever throwing up a care about how humanely something dies. When it comes to hogs I let the lead fly. I am a hunter/killer I use all kinds of weapons and tactics to kill animals. I do not care what other hunters/killers use to take their pray. If someone want to use blow guns with poison darts, or snares, or dogs, whatever they have at their disposal. Who am I to say thats not humane. |
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Posted: 6/30/2012 7:27:48 AM
I have a Rock River Arms Lar-8. It is a 308. You would not be able to take a lower from another gun, but going 308 gives a nice balance of power, range, and affordability. Plus the Ammo is easy to get and cheap enough (kinda) to shoot recreationally compared to the Socom or Beowulf. The other reason I went 308 was because I wanted a matching bolt gun with me on hunts as a back up to my Ar in 308 both of which can use the same ammo.
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Posted: 6/30/2012 6:32:44 PM
[Last Edit: 6/30/2012 6:34:41 PM by emsemt911]
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae301/emsemt911/kobeshog.jpg
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae301/emsemt911/kodespig2.jpg My son's hog he shot I had it posted on 68 forums and here a while back. http://68forums.com/forums/showthread.php?13191-515-lb-hog |
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Posted: 6/30/2012 6:40:36 PM
Thats a big one.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 2:15:32 PM
Originally Posted By Kibby:
+1 for me too. Nothing but respect and reverence for my prey. I've hunted and fished my entire life, and believe it or not I still have a bad day when something goes wrong and I have to kill a fish becuase he's all bloodied up at the gills or something, or lose a deer and have to abandon the search. Heck I even hate to run over a squirrel! I hope you don't wring you hands about the bugs you hit on the way to work today. All life is precious, you know? Learn to forgive yourself for all the killing you have done today, inhumanely, and wantonly. TRG |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 12:29:23 AM
Before you all go and get all judgmental, think of this.
How much do you think a piece of farm equipment (let cost's say a combine) costs? About $250,000 and up. What do you think would happen to the equipment if it ran into a carcass of a large animal and how much would it cost to fix it? Also as a consumer, would you like bits of animal carcass mixed with the harvest? Like that would improve the quality of the crop that is how much you will get paid for it! So you are a rancher/farmer and you have Depredation Permit(s) to get rid of some pests. You shoot the animal and it is DRT. Now you have to; A) find the carcass in the middle of a field with 20 to 30 inch high crop and B) not trash the crop(s) dragging a 100 lbs + carcass out of the field and then you have to dispose of the carcass*. Now, don't forget the other chores that you have to do. *Note: Depredation Permit(s) often have restrictions on how/what you can do with the carcass). Solution, shoot the f––-ing pest in the paunch and hope it makes it out of the field and into the woods so you do not have to deal with all of the s––t above. You have to remember that the Depredation Permits are for animals that are STEALING the rancher's/farmer's livelihood. Hence, no mercy! Finally, if you want to have continued access to hunt the property, you do what the property owner asks of you within reason. If you do not like it… Do not hunt there! |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 8:42:59 AM
[Last Edit: 7/3/2012 8:46:51 AM by hertboi2010]
There's some really good info in here! I went hog hunting for the first time in April. I have access to 42sq miles of orange groves in SW Fla. I asked my friend what distances I'd be shooting before I picked which rifle I wanted and he told me 60-80yds. I took a 16" rifle with a red dot on it and i honestly hate that I picked it. The first pig I shot was 218yds. With a 4MOA red dot that was a horrible choice that I made and I will not do it again. Asfar as the caliber it was just a 62gr/.223 bullet. I' personally think that it was plenty for the job but I made a bad shot and had to put another one in the pig to put it down. I would say two things about my experience:
1) get 1.5-4 glass or better. I like the VXR line from Leupold 2) start with at least .223/62 gr with your ammo selection ![]() |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 9:26:49 AM
Originally Posted By hertboi2010:
There's some really good info in here! I went hog hunting for the first time in April. I have access to 42sq miles of orange groves in SW Fla. I asked my friend what distances I'd be shooting before I picked which rifle I wanted and he told me 60-80yds. I took a 16" rifle with a red dot on it and i honestly hate that I picked it. The first pig I shot was 218yds. With a 4MOA red dot that was a horrible choice that I made and I will not do it again. Asfar as the caliber it was just a 62gr/.223 bullet. I' personally think that it was plenty for the job but I made a bad shot and had to put another one in the pig to put it down. I would say two things about my experience: 1) get 1.5-4 glass or better. I like the VXR line from Leupold 2) start with at least .223/62 gr with your ammo selection http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy339/nells09/photo-16.jpg
Awesome piggy. |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 10:18:06 AM
[Last Edit: 7/3/2012 10:18:47 AM by tammons]
Originally Posted By hertboi2010:
There's some really good info in here! I went hog hunting for the first time in April. I have access to 42sq miles of orange groves in SW Fla. I asked my friend what distances I'd be shooting before I picked which rifle I wanted and he told me 60-80yds. I took a 16" rifle with a red dot on it and i honestly hate that I picked it. The first pig I shot was 218yds. With a 4MOA red dot that was a horrible choice that I made and I will not do it again. Asfar as the caliber it was just a 62gr/.223 bullet. I' personally think that it was plenty for the job but I made a bad shot and had to put another one in the pig to put it down. I would say two things about my experience: 1) get 1.5-4 glass or better. I like the VXR line from Leupold 2) start with at least .223/62 gr with your ammo selection http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy339/nells09/photo-16.jpg Nice one. I would suggest if you are going to use a 223, go with a 7 or 8 twist and use a 62 gr tipped TTSX barnes bullet. If you have a 9 twist, use the 70 gr Speer semi spitzer bullet. Its a good hunting bullet for 223 and is cheap. The all around scope I like the best is a Leupold 2-7X. |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 11:32:34 AM
[Last Edit: 7/3/2012 11:34:53 AM by hertboi2010]
Originally Posted By tammons:
Originally Posted By hertboi2010:
There's some really good info in here! I went hog hunting for the first time in April. I have access to 42sq miles of orange groves in SW Fla. I asked my friend what distances I'd be shooting before I picked which rifle I wanted and he told me 60-80yds. I took a 16" rifle with a red dot on it and i honestly hate that I picked it. The first pig I shot was 218yds. With a 4MOA red dot that was a horrible choice that I made and I will not do it again. Asfar as the caliber it was just a 62gr/.223 bullet. I' personally think that it was plenty for the job but I made a bad shot and had to put another one in the pig to put it down. I would say two things about my experience: 1) get 1.5-4 glass or better. I like the VXR line from Leupold 2) start with at least .223/62 gr with your ammo selection http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy339/nells09/photo-16.jpg Nice one. I would suggest if you are going to use a 223, go with a 7 or 8 twist and use a 62 gr tipped TTSX barnes bullet. If you have a 9 twist, use the 70 gr Speer semi spitzer bullet. Its a good hunting bullet for 223 and is cheap. The all around scope I like the best is a Leupold 2-7X. I have all of the above twists. The rifle I was shooting was actually the wife's and it was 1/9. I built it for her for plinking and to go shoot some hogs. The plan was for her to shoot a hog but when we went out with her we didn't see any piggys! I'm gonna get some of those 62gr TTSX's and see how they perform. I was actually checking the 70gr semi spitzers out on Midway last night. I have started a .308 build specifically for hog hunting now though! |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 11:41:55 AM
Here is a pic of a pig that weighed 298lbs. It looks a lot bigger than it really is!
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Posted: 7/3/2012 12:39:41 PM
Originally Posted By TheRedGoat:
Originally Posted By Kibby:
+1 for me too. Nothing but respect and reverence for my prey. I've hunted and fished my entire life, and believe it or not I still have a bad day when something goes wrong and I have to kill a fish becuase he's all bloodied up at the gills or something, or lose a deer and have to abandon the search. Heck I even hate to run over a squirrel! I hope you don't wring you hands about the bugs you hit on the way to work today. All life is precious, you know? Learn to forgive yourself for all the killing you have done today, inhumanely, and wantonly. TRG No shit! I ran over a chipmunk on my way to work yesterday, and it made me sick to my stomach a little. I DO feel that all life is sacred. Sad that I thought of that chipmunk on my way home from work. I must be going nuts or turning soft or channeling Ghandi or something. Thing is, I will kill the shit out of bugs, though. Fuck 'em. |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 12:41:48 PM
Originally Posted By hertboi2010:
Here is a pic of a pig that weighed 298lbs. It looks a lot bigger than it really is! http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy339/nells09/photo-22.jpg Yeow! That pig does look like more than 300#! |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 4:41:15 PM
Yeah it was a hair shy of 300! I'm sure before it ran it was 300!
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Posted: 7/3/2012 5:12:52 PM
Originally Posted By hertboi2010:
Originally Posted By tammons:
Originally Posted By hertboi2010:
There's some really good info in here! I went hog hunting for the first time in April. I have access to 42sq miles of orange groves in SW Fla. I asked my friend what distances I'd be shooting before I picked which rifle I wanted and he told me 60-80yds. I took a 16" rifle with a red dot on it and i honestly hate that I picked it. The first pig I shot was 218yds. With a 4MOA red dot that was a horrible choice that I made and I will not do it again. Asfar as the caliber it was just a 62gr/.223 bullet. I' personally think that it was plenty for the job but I made a bad shot and had to put another one in the pig to put it down. I would say two things about my experience: 1) get 1.5-4 glass or better. I like the VXR line from Leupold 2) start with at least .223/62 gr with your ammo selection http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy339/nells09/photo-16.jpg Nice one. I would suggest if you are going to use a 223, go with a 7 or 8 twist and use a 62 gr tipped TTSX barnes bullet. If you have a 9 twist, use the 70 gr Speer semi spitzer bullet. Its a good hunting bullet for 223 and is cheap. The all around scope I like the best is a Leupold 2-7X. I have all of the above twists. The rifle I was shooting was actually the wife's and it was 1/9. I built it for her for plinking and to go shoot some hogs. The plan was for her to shoot a hog but when we went out with her we didn't see any piggys! I'm gonna get some of those 62gr TTSX's and see how they perform. I was actually checking the 70gr semi spitzers out on Midway last night. I have started a .308 build specifically for hog hunting now though! I have used the 70 gr semi spitzer for a while and its a good hunting bullet. I think the 62 gr TTSX would beat it for performance on hogs though especially if you run into a big one. Probably overkill on deer unless its a big one. All that said I prefer something with a bit more bullet for hogs. Just set up a 25-223 so thats my latest diversion. Also looking at a 7mm TCU or a 7.62x40wt in a bolt action but not convinced on either. My go to is either a 6.8 spc or the 25-223 but I have just started using the 25-223. Other than that is a 338-06. |
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