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Posted: 4/16/2012 12:21:28 AM
[Last Edit: 4/16/2012 12:24:34 AM by jsc7002]
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT TM 308 lower DPMS Upper 20" SS Fulton Armory M110 Barrel 1x12 YHM 5C2 Muzzle Device Geiselle SSA Trigger Troy TRX Extreme 13.6" Free Float Handguard Fulton Armory LPK w/ ERGO Grip DPMS 308 BCG BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle DPMS A2 Buttstock These are the scopes Ive be looking at and have some good things about: Kind of leaning more towards the Millet TRS-1, Buckmaster, Viper or the Mueller Tactical. (All scopes and prices I found from SWFA) Nikon Buckmaster 4.5-14x50 末-$320 Weaver Grand Slam 4.5-14x40 末-$400 Vortex Diamondback 4-12x40 末-$300 Vortex Viper 4-12x40 末-$400 Mueller Tac II 3-10x44 末-$290 Mueller Tactical 4-16x50 末-$220 Mueller Tactical 4.5-14x40 末-$170 Millet Tactical TRS-1 4-16x50 末-$300 Burris Fullfield II 4.5-14x42 末-$300 OR Bushnell Elite 3200, Ive seen a few of these on Ebay fairly inexpensively Any help or advice on a good scope would be greatly appreciated! |
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Posted: 4/16/2012 1:22:41 AM
I would cut anything made in China off the list immediately. That's $400 that could be spent on something that will actually last, with click values you can feel, with gears that won't die on you right out of the box in many cases. I've seen way too many returns on Millet scopes that crapped in the bed within a few rounds of firing, if they even made it on to the rifle at all.
On the other hand, I have had nothing but great experiences with Vortex Optics if we're talking about Vipers and Viper PST's. The 2.5-10x44 sounds like the magnification range that will suit your stick really well, especially when you talk about switching from target work, to hunting, but you'll have to up your budget just a tad. You also need to factor in the price of a quality mount, which is no small figure. On your list, the only scopes I would even allow on the list would be from: Vortex, Bushnell, Burris, Nikon The Vortex Diamondback's are more appropriate for .22 LR, from what I've gathered listening to a lot of people who have bought them, as well as honest sales people who relate customer experiences to me when I ask them. The Viper & PST lines from Vortex are outstanding for the money. Burris is Made in USA in Greeley Colorado, and they make a decent product line, which keeps getting better for AR's year after year. Most Nikons are 1" tubes, so I ignore them. The Vortex Viper PST has the most features for the price point of any scope line on the market right now. |
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Posted: 4/16/2012 1:26:20 AM
http://www.snipercentral.com/weavergslam.phtml
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Posted: 4/16/2012 2:26:11 AM
[Last Edit: 4/16/2012 2:28:52 AM by pca]
Originally Posted By glorifiedG:
http://www.snipercentral.com/weavergslam.phtml http://www.snipercentral.com/weavergslam.phtml made it hot The scope is a nice low end scope and made in Japan. Very good glass for the money and mil-mil to boot. Sold by Midway. Shouldn't this question be in optics section? |
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Posted: 4/16/2012 3:06:13 AM
I will second the Vortex PST suggestion. I have not personally looked though the higher magnification models but my 1-4 has great glass for the cost and seams to have good clicks and the Zero stop should be useful.
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Posted: 4/16/2012 7:25:11 AM
I like the new redfields scopes.
Made in America, decent prices. |
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Posted: 4/16/2012 8:00:50 AM
I have had good luck with Centerpoint and Firefield scopes. Both are very cheap and have high dollar features.
My centerpoint is on a Fal and handles the recoil fine so I could not expect much more. |
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Posted: 4/16/2012 8:44:45 AM
Of the Muellers, the Tac II is not Chinese, it's Japanese glass and construction. A well built scope, good bang for the buck.
I have the Weaver Tactical Grand Slam 3-10x40 Mil/Mil scope as well. Again, very good scope for the money. |
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Posted: 4/16/2012 9:57:17 AM
I'll second the weaver grand slam tac 3x10, this scope has been on several of my rifles from 5.56 to 7.62 both on the range and in the field hunting and has been very repeatable and decent glass. I also just acquired the another midway exclusive, the Vortex viper HS 5x15 and this scope is by far the best value I have ever seen at $400.
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Posted: 4/16/2012 10:00:14 AM
One more that deserves a look:
Simmons Whitetail Classic in either : 6.5-20x44mm or 6.5-21x50mm w/ Mil Dot recticle... Japanese Optics, assembled in the Philipines...Lifetime Limited Warranty. http://www.simmonsoptics.com/riflescopes/44_mag.cfm |
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Posted: 4/16/2012 10:31:36 AM
midwayusa has an exclusive vortex hs for $399 this month only. It is a 5-15x44 and you won't find a better scope for that price. There are reviews on snipershide and they've been stellar.
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Posted: 4/16/2012 11:22:44 AM
Trying to stay around $400 or less.
The Vortex Viper 6.5-20X50 fits in that price range. Compared to Nikon, Bushnell and other name brands to you see on shelves, it has clearer optics IMHO. Mine has been on a Grendel and AR-10, continues to tract perfect. I'm trying out a Alpen Apex XP, a 6-24x50 30mm, with side focus, multi coated Jap glass. My initial impression is this is noticeably better optically than the Vortex. Plus it's $80 cheaper. Passed the box tracking test with flying colors. It well be on a M1A this year, we'll see how it holds up. The M1A can beat up a scope if it's not well made. |
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Posted: 4/16/2012 11:31:55 AM
I put the Millett TRS-1 4-16 x 50 on my .308 about 2 years ago. My plan was to get something affordable to start shooting and then upgrade later. Well, two years later and I am still using it. It handles the recoil and holds zero. I see no reason to spend more money to replace something that works great. I am using the ARMS 30 mm high scope mounts with the throw levers for quick release.
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Posted: 4/16/2012 2:49:05 PM
I can't believe I let that slip by. I got the Vortex Viper HS Tactical from Midway, and it is a great scope. It has the side focus and zero-stop, as well as PST turrets. That is your $400 scope all day long. I wish they had made it with a x50 objective, but that's my only gripe.
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Posted: 4/16/2012 2:51:50 PM
SuperSniper 10X Fixed.
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Posted: 4/16/2012 4:52:33 PM
IMHO, right now the best bang for the buck in a lower priced scope is Nitrex.
They are as cheap as the cheapest scope you mention and have the same glass as the Weaver. |
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Posted: 4/16/2012 6:09:07 PM
I'm happy w/my Bushnell Elite 6500 2.5-16. Made in USA
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Posted: 4/16/2012 7:05:45 PM
I like my weaver 3x10 mil/mil scope.
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Posted: 4/16/2012 7:52:44 PM
. Are any of the Redfields any good (Revolution, Revenge Series)? They are pretty cheap and made in USA which is always a plus.
Whats the difference between the Burris Fullfield E1 and the Fullfield II? Is the MTAC any good? Its a little more but its a 3.5-10x42 with a 30mm tube and its $450. I think I have it narrowed down to the Vortex Viper, Viper HS, Burris Fullfield II, Bushnell 3200 or the 4200 if I can find a good deal on one. |
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Posted: 4/16/2012 8:15:42 PM
The elite series is a fantastic deal. I have a 4200 that has been my mule scop for years. It has survived various WSM rifles and my 308AR with no problems.
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Posted: 4/16/2012 9:35:14 PM
Originally Posted By Dr69er:
One more that deserves a look: Simmons Whitetail Classic in either : 6.5-20x44mm or 6.5-21x50mm w/ Mil Dot recticle... Japanese Optics, assembled in the Philipines...Lifetime Limited Warranty. http://www.simmonsoptics.com/riflescopes/44_mag.cfm +10 I purchased mine 10yrs ago and have had nothen but the best out of it...clear as a bell....into the sun...at full zoom with no haze...what i would give if they made one with target turrets in this platform |
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Posted: 4/16/2012 9:57:20 PM
I purchased a target scope at a gun show about 3 yrs ago for about $200.00..6x24x50. adjustable frt objective and fine tune focus at your eye, mil dot.
I bought it with a mind set of.... "hey, for the money"? why not....... turned out to be one nice scope....clear.....holds zero... goes by the name of eagle eye optics and for the life of me, i have yet to find another at any of the gun shows ive attend,d i can hit steels with it out to 1K the gears are true and solid |
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Posted: 4/16/2012 11:06:40 PM
I need to put a vote up for Burris. Clear glass and tough to boot. Made in CO. Awesome warranty service if you happen to need it. I'm happy with the 2 I have and know of half a dozen more owners that love them.
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Posted: 4/17/2012 9:03:05 AM
Big thumbs up for Vortex. I have a Viper PST on my M1A and it's positively outstanding. Their customer service is top notch, too. I've also had a Burris Fullfield II on my .450 Bushmaster and had great luck with it. Price was good, glass was nice, and it held up to the pounding with no issues. |
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Posted: 4/17/2012 9:08:03 AM
I just bought a Konus m30 and love it. It has a built in level inside the scope
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Posted: 4/17/2012 9:59:48 AM
Natchez has some awesome deals on Weaver scopes, I just got in a 2.5-10x50mm with illuminated reticle dot, thing works awesome, these are the Weaver Classic Extreme scopes, i'm very happy with it for the price, they also have the higher power ones for sale, can see them on the bottom of this link:
http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=WE800704 |
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