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Posted: 3/4/2012 9:14:14 AM EST
Hi Guys

What type gr. and brand of ammo do all you guys run in your DPMS rifle, What is best for a DPMS AP4 that is new, I have not shot it yet just looking for some advice on this subject before I get out to the range..



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Posted: 3/4/2012 11:00:17 AM EST
I have a 20", so the ammo that mine likes might be different from your carbine. But mine loves the 168 gr Fed GMM or the 168 Hornady A-max (sub-MOA with both). It has functioned 100% with everything that I've tried other than the Win White Box. I had a couple FTE with that, and judging from the ejection patterns and the way that the brass caught in the ejection port, it seemed to be underpowered ammo. Since your carbine will probably have higher pressure at the bolt carrier than my 20", it might work better in yours.
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Posted: 3/4/2012 2:36:52 PM EST
I've run small amounts of American Eagle 150g, FGMM 168g and Winchester Supreme Match 168g through my friend's DPMS AP4 308 and all have worked fine with the FGMM and Win Match grouping best (not surprisingly).
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Posted: 3/4/2012 3:35:52 PM EST
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Fed 150gr Power Shok highly recommended : link
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Posted: 3/4/2012 7:11:47 PM EST
the DPMS .308s tend to greatly favor the heavier rounds, 168g-200gr
other then that? you will have to buy some diff stuff and shoot it to see what it likes best
I Have a DPMS SASS that love 180gr win power points. 3/4 MOA 10 shot groups at 100yds
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Posted: 3/4/2012 7:23:40 PM EST
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My DPMS build likes 168gr BTHP loads the most out to 500yd, I get about the same accuracy with FGMM and Georgia Arms "Precision" so you can guess which one I buy more of...

For plinking, and for the RFB, I go with cleaner DAG and PPU 145gr battle packs. DAG has the better accuracy out of my RFB of any bulk/surplus.



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Posted: 3/4/2012 8:55:33 PM EST
Originally Posted By J75player:
the DPMS .308s tend to greatly favor the heavier rounds, 168g-200gr
other then that? you will have to buy some diff stuff and shoot it to see what it likes best
I Have a DPMS SASS that love 180gr win power points. 3/4 MOA 10 shot groups at 100yds



This here.... 1/10" twist rate likes those heavier projectiles. Bottom line is you might have to hunt around for the right round in YOUR setup. Good luck!

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Posted: 3/5/2012 4:49:00 AM EST
+1 Fed Pwr Shok. MOA w/a flat-base soft point bullet blows holes in deer/hogs/etc. + its half the cost of FGMM which has match bullet not optimized for hunting. I guess it depends on your mission - if you're after the x-ring go for the big $$ match ammo.
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Posted: 3/5/2012 7:06:18 AM EST
I can hold 3/4 MOA with my 168gr AMAX handloads. I can also easily hold MOA with factory 168gr FGMM & Hornady AMAX. Like others have said though, every barrel is differnet, hell yours may like core-lokt the best But I doubt it. Good luck.
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Posted: 3/5/2012 12:50:49 PM EST
Thanks guys for all your help..
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Posted: 3/5/2012 11:46:24 PM EST
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+1 Fed Pwr Shok. MOA w/a flat-base soft point bullet blows holes in deer/hogs/etc. + its half the cost of FGMM which has match bullet not optimized for hunting. I guess it depends on your mission - if you're after the x-ring go for the big $$ match ammo.



I can buy Fed GMM online for $20/box. Where are you buying Power Shoks for 10 bucks per box?
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Posted: 3/6/2012 4:20:12 AM EST
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Posted: 3/7/2012 7:50:47 AM EST
German surplus for non-serious shooting, I get 1+moa with it. 168gr match grade for out to 500-600 yds, past that range I like175/178's. This with a 21" Noveske N6.
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Posted: 3/7/2012 9:35:37 AM EST
Don't forget to properly break-in your barrel
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Posted: 3/7/2012 10:30:21 AM EST
I have always shot Federal 150gr power shok through my SASS with good results. I'm going to see how 175gr match does tomorrow if it's not too windy.
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Posted: 3/7/2012 3:41:05 PM EST
The DPMS rep told me not to shoot 7.62 x 51 in my new rifle when I called
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Posted: 3/7/2012 8:36:49 PM EST
Target shooting, Wolf 308 145gr. It holds about 2 MOA. Feeds, fires and ejects cleanly.
Federal 150gr gives up 1.25 MOA. Inexpensive brass cased ammo. Have not yet gotten any match grade ammo; am sure the groups will get a bit better with it.
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Posted: 3/8/2012 6:44:49 AM EST
Yea I called one day and was told the same thing.
I called again and was told it dosn't matter just keep it wet. I had a ejecting problem also. I switched to pamgs 20rd havn't had a problem since.
I shoot 168 AMAX hand loads and the M1 7.62s will no problems. I just installed a adjust gas block from Paradine mech out of S.C for shooting with my can.
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Posted: 3/8/2012 2:04:46 PM EST
I seems like all the German DAG and MEN in battle packs has dried up. Does anyone know where I can find some?
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Posted: 3/8/2012 3:06:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By Toondaddy:
I seems like all the German DAG and MEN in battle packs has dried up. Does anyone know where I can find some?

I sold my FAL a while back and saw all kinds of deals afterward.
I just bought a LR-308L and can find nothing now.
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Posted: 3/8/2012 4:19:07 PM EST
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The DPMS rep told me not to shoot 7.62 x 51 in my new rifle when I called
to report ejection problems last week

Yep, if you have a barrel marked "308". They cut the chambers tighter than on 7.62x51 so look at your barrel to see which one you have.

Note that DPMS does not warranty shooting with Wolf ammo, or any other steel case. Or anything from South Africa, surplus or commercial. However, my 7.62 chambered LR308 does operate fine with Wolf and South African surplus and PMP (South African commercial).

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Posted: 3/8/2012 4:40:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lmccrock:
Originally Posted By Banditman:
The DPMS rep told me not to shoot 7.62 x 51 in my new rifle when I called
to report ejection problems last week

Yep, if you have a barrel marked "308". They cut the chambers tighter than on 7.62x51 so look at your barrel to see which one you have.

Note that DPMS does not warranty shooting with Wolf ammo, or any other steel case. Or anything from South Africa, surplus or commercial. However, my 7.62 chambered LR308 does operate fine with Wolf and South African surplus and PMP (South African commercial).


Mine is 308 but I had far more problems with 308 Ammo than I had with 7.62 NATO.
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