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Posted: 1/25/2012 5:30:24 AM EST
Looking for something inexpensive, only real requirement is nitride or chrome bore. Any ideas?

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Link Posted: 1/25/2012 8:06:47 AM EST
Model 1 Sales makes relatively inexpensive 7.62x39 uppers. They have quality E.R. Shaw barrels, but if I remember correctly, no chrome. Look in to it.

P.S. Make sure you get M4 Feed Ramps

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Link Posted: 1/25/2012 8:44:24 AM EST
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They don't have chrome and IMO are pretty expensive. I can build a upper using high quality parts for close to that. Looking for something under $500.

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Link Posted: 1/25/2012 11:04:45 AM EST
Originally Posted By BB:
They don't have chrome and IMO are pretty expensive. I can build a upper using high quality parts for close to that. Looking for something under $500.




That's a pretty tall order for a complete X39 upper...Most places I've checked are out of stock or on back order.

I personally think that a chrome lined bore is not a big Issue...

My sons M59/66 SKS has had tons of surplus ammo through It
w/ no Ill effects to the bore or rifle from corrosive ammo...

Just use some CLP spray and few wet patches down the bore/chamber
and in the action and your done.

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Link Posted: 1/25/2012 11:18:08 AM EST
Originally Posted By BB:
They don't have chrome and IMO are pretty expensive. I can build a upper using high quality parts for close to that. Looking for something under $500.


Sounds like you have already looked around as much as anyone here just go with what you have already found.

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Link Posted: 1/25/2012 12:15:13 PM EST
My 10.5" has a Shaw barrel shortened and threaded on a lathe and just shot past 2800rds last week. I've put about 300 non-corrosive rounds through it and only 40 of those were in the last 2 months.

I haven't found a great reason to run a CL barrel.

I believe YHM has some though.
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Link Posted: 1/25/2012 12:20:52 PM EST
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You really don't need chrome lined. I just run a CLP coated boresnake, wipe the chamber and lugs and store it. And that is after corrosive ammo.

I found a link to ONE dealer who says they are selling chrome lined Bushmaster uppers. Keep in mind, this barrel is not usually sold chrome lined so this is would be "special".
http://www.marksarmory.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BUSHY7%2E62
I am partial to the Bushies for a factory upper. The factory feedramp is sweet and never heard anything bad about it. The unmodified factory quality is good to go.
And last but 1st! The price is good for factory.

Let us know what they say on the due date if you order. I have a buddy who is going 7.62x39 for a plinker soon.


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Link Posted: 1/25/2012 12:24:29 PM EST
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Chrome is more because I'm a lazy bastard more than any fear of corrosion. Just something I like to have. Point was that M1Sales upper is expensive even without CL; the MAparts offering is more attractive. Regardless looks like I'm gonna build it myself I suppose.

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Link Posted: 1/25/2012 12:34:32 PM EST
Always turns out better when you make it!

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Link Posted: 1/25/2012 12:48:39 PM EST
Not sure where you're getting $500 from for M1S. You must be including BCG price.

$365 seemed to fall in the "inexpensive" category you inquired about.

or Bushy/Olympic on Midway for $505/$560 respectively. Though both are out of stock.

Like above posts, go with the home build if M1S isn't satisfactory enough for you.

I own one and love it. Was on my front door less than 10 days after ordering. Good luck with whatever you decide.


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Link Posted: 1/25/2012 12:54:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By oh6shinka:
Not sure where you're getting $500 from for M1S. You must be including BCG price.


Of course I am, its kinda required LOL. Thanks for the lead on the bushy, guessing its not got a BCG.

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Link Posted: 1/25/2012 1:03:50 PM EST
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505 complete from m1s

http://model1sales.com/images/products/u16carpre7.gif

http://model1sales.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=308

I recently got this from them as a kit - my options were flat top dissy, I removed the front sight base that came with it since the gas system is mid length anyway - the free float hand guard was another 35, the magpul ctr stock is a 75 dollar option, the moe grip was 15 extra so 710 shipped for the kit minus the lower.

I added a pws brake, magpul sling and some other stuff but the most important part I think is the wolf +15% hammer spring needed for shooting steel relaiblity, it's not included but they are 3 bucks from brownels. The new kits come with a slightly longer firing pin to improve reliability.

http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/8292/img20120120175305.jpg

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Link Posted: 1/25/2012 2:59:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By wikioutdoor:
505 complete from m1s

http://model1sales.com/images/products/u16carpre7.gif

http://model1sales.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=308

I recently got this from them as a kit - my options were flat top dissy, I removed the front sight base that came with it since the gas system is mid length anyway - the free float hand guard was another 35, the magpul ctr stock is a 75 dollar option, the moe grip was 15 extra so 710 shipped for the kit minus the lower.

I added a pws brake, magpul sling and some other stuff but the most important part I think is the wolf +15% hammer spring needed for shooting steel relaiblity, it's not included but they are 3 bucks from brownels. The new kits come with a slightly longer firing pin to improve reliability.

http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/8292/img20120120175305.jpg

Its not chrome lined or nitrided; plus I'm really looking for a 10.5" upper.


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Link Posted: 1/25/2012 3:15:10 PM EST
I'm not sure if they still have any left but Alpha shooting sports had 16" 7.62x39 complete A4 uppers including carrier group for $359.00.ON SALE till 1-30-12

they're NOT chrome lined. still not a bad price for a complete upper. They sell out of stuff pretty quick. I lucked out and got 2 of there A1 20" $115.00 Pencil barrels last week. Thought about getting the cheap 7.62


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Link Posted: 1/25/2012 3:31:34 PM EST
Too bad Bushmaster does not offer an 11.5" version or anything shorter than 16". I really like their feed ramp.

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Link Posted: 1/25/2012 3:42:59 PM EST
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I'm a bourbon man... but have Merlot in me and Merlot makes me mean.

I just want to rage at you for missing out on the ARMALITE Christmas Sale less than one month ago.

You would have hit the jackpot.

So, if you grab their barrel and bolt and buy the rest as you want it, I have all the tools.

I'm in Dallas.

EDIT: ARMALITE barrels are known for accuracy and function. You won't buy better.
Cheaper, yes, but cheaper is even expensive today.

EDIT II: OK, not really rage, just fuss at ya' like the old man that I am.

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Link Posted: 1/26/2012 4:37:31 AM EST
+ 1 on the Bushie, feed ramps are great

I think all Bushies are chrome lined in x39. Mine is.

Try Bud's Gun Shop, Picked up a complete upper w / ASC Mag for 509.00

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Link Posted: 1/26/2012 9:02:45 AM EST
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Originally Posted By BB:
Its not chrome lined or nitrided; plus I'm really looking for a 10.5" upper.



If you check the link they offer the barrels in two options chrome lined or stainless steel - also they do have them in a 11.5 inch commando or pistol length, I am not sure if you want to go shorter than that.


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Link Posted: 1/26/2012 9:16:45 AM EST
Originally Posted By wikioutdoor:
Originally Posted By BB:
Its not chrome lined or nitrided; plus I'm really looking for a 10.5" upper.



If you check the link they offer the barrels in two options chrome lined or stainless steel - also they do have them in a 11.5 inch commando or pistol length, I am not sure if you want to go shorter than that.


They offer it in chrome moly or stainless HBAR. Yes I want 10.5".

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Link Posted: 1/26/2012 11:28:52 AM EST
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Try to pick up a 16" carbine barrel and have it shortened and threaded at ADCO. Mine had a .078 port from the factory (16") and short stroked with that but it runs wonderfully at .094 since going throw the proper shortening.

It suppresses extremely well also. I do plan on making subsonics later.

I also recommend having ADCO contour the barrel to .700 behind the gas block. Mine started at 25oz and went to 21oz.

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Link Posted: 1/26/2012 12:01:51 PM EST
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Try to pick up a 16" carbine barrel and have it shortened and threaded at ADCO. Mine had a .078 port from the factory (16") and short stroked with that but it runs wonderfully at .094 since going throw the proper shortening.

It suppresses extremely well also. I do plan on making subsonics later.

I also recommend having ADCO contour the barrel to .700 behind the gas block. Mine started at 25oz and went to 21oz.

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I'm going to give Ballistic Advantage a shot. Long-ish lead times, but I'm patient. What can you running?

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YHM 762 Titanium. When I've shot it suppressed it was with my friend's SS 762. I figured the $250 difference was worth it once I saw how light it was when mounted. 23 days pending now.

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Link Posted: 1/27/2012 3:14:11 AM EST
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+ 1 on the Bushie, feed ramps are great

I think all Bushies are chrome lined in x39. Mine is.

Try Bud's Gun Shop, Picked up a complete upper w / ASC Mag for 509.00



thanks for that info as I'm looking for one as well.

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Link Posted: 1/27/2012 10:53:20 AM EST
WOW...I'm intrigued. Looking at some Colt 7.62X39 uppers. Ammo is about 100 dollars cheaper than .223/.556. I'm ATHINKING!!!!!!!!

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Link Posted: 1/27/2012 10:58:21 AM EST
so which one is the best bang for the buck at say $500

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Link Posted: 1/27/2012 11:19:03 AM EST
I've had 3 years and several cases worth of wolf though my pistol without any issues so I will still say model 1

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Link Posted: 1/27/2012 11:19:27 AM EST
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Originally Posted By RUTGERS95:
so which one is the best bang for the buck at say $500

Probably the bushy; the M1S isnt chromed and the MAparts is higher priced, and probably neither has as good quality parts.

Heres what I've come up with:

Melonite 10.5" barrel from Ballistic Adv $245
SA&A upper $80
AR15perf superbolt $100
BCM carrier $69
BCM gunfighter $38
Spikes melonite gas tube $13
M4 handguards/hardware and A2 hider I have laying around $0
total $550

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Link Posted: 1/27/2012 11:46:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By Brucea4:
WOW...I'm intrigued. Looking at some Colt 7.62X39 uppers. Ammo is about 100 dollars cheaper than .223/.556. I'm ATHINKING!!!!!!!!

Try looking at 5.45x39 uppers then. Surplus ammo can be had for $130-140/1000 rds

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Link Posted: 1/27/2012 12:49:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By Brucea4:
WOW...I'm intrigued. Looking at some Colt 7.62X39 uppers. Ammo is about 100 dollars cheaper than .223/.556. I'm ATHINKING!!!!!!!!

That and you get to put .30 caliber holes in stuff...
A 9mm might expand to .45, but a .45 will never shrink to 9mm.
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Link Posted: 1/27/2012 6:40:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RUTGERS95:
so which one is the best bang for the buck at say $500

Probably the bushy; the M1S isnt chromed and the MAparts is higher priced, and probably neither has as good quality parts.

Heres what I've come up with:

Melonite 10.5" barrel from Ballistic Adv $245
SA&A upper $80
AR15perf superbolt $100
BCM carrier $69
BCM gunfighter $38
Spikes melonite gas tube $13
M4 handguards/hardware and A2 hider I have laying around $0
total $550


thanks!

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Link Posted: 1/27/2012 7:14:27 PM EST
Where are you guys buying 7.62x39 that is $100 cheaper than 5.56?

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Link Posted: 1/27/2012 11:42:12 PM EST
Those have crossed my mind also.....BUT....what about those .30 cal HOLES?????

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Link Posted: 1/27/2012 11:43:26 PM EST
Wolf MC usually goes for $202 to 228 a thousand.......The Sportsmansguide...........

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Link Posted: 1/28/2012 7:08:23 AM EST
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Wolf MC usually goes for $202 to 228 a thousand.......The Sportsmansguide...........


Thats what Wolf 5.56 runs as well.. I was just curious if guys were getting $100 cheaper than that..

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Link Posted: 1/28/2012 9:24:32 AM EST
There are others under $230 a case at the SG. Also Ammoman.com has low prices......

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Link Posted: 1/28/2012 11:39:23 AM EST
Sweet. Thanks for the heads up.

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