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Posted: 11/12/2010 10:02:42 PM
Sweet man, be sure to throw up more photos as you get further along. I am just finalizing my parts list right now and will b throwing it up here shortly.

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Posted: 11/13/2010 8:37:30 AM
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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4129/5168851449_e06c20cf58.jpg

here's what I have so far!!


Looks nice bud! I will have to bust out the camera here and see if i can show my babies off a bit too

BTW i like your idea on the 16 inch krieger from fulton. . . good choice in my book for sure. . .but then u already know that lol

Pat



Thanks Pat! You have been a wonderful help. I just ordered my Larue Tactical 11" handguards tonight



Unfortunately the LaRue handguards use an AR10 pattern barrel nut, which will not work with the MA-TEN. You must use a DPMS or KAC pattern barrel nut.
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Posted: 11/13/2010 9:42:58 AM
Originally Posted By vmpglenn:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By SLUHstud:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4129/5168851449_e06c20cf58.jpg

here's what I have so far!!


Looks nice bud! I will have to bust out the camera here and see if i can show my babies off a bit too

BTW i like your idea on the 16 inch krieger from fulton. . . good choice in my book for sure. . .but then u already know that lol

Pat



Thanks Pat! You have been a wonderful help. I just ordered my Larue Tactical 11" handguards tonight



Unfortunately the LaRue handguards use an AR10 pattern barrel nut, which will not work with the MA-TEN. You must use a DPMS or KAC pattern barrel nut.


this is unfortunate news. are you 100% sure?
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Posted: 11/13/2010 10:03:27 AM
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By vmpglenn:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By SLUHstud:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4129/5168851449_e06c20cf58.jpg

here's what I have so far!!


Looks nice bud! I will have to bust out the camera here and see if i can show my babies off a bit too

BTW i like your idea on the 16 inch krieger from fulton. . . good choice in my book for sure. . .but then u already know that lol

Pat



Thanks Pat! You have been a wonderful help. I just ordered my Larue Tactical 11" handguards tonight



Unfortunately the LaRue handguards use an AR10 pattern barrel nut, which will not work with the MA-TEN. You must use a DPMS or KAC pattern barrel nut.


this is unfortunate news. are you 100% sure?


Yes. LT has no plans in the works for a DPMS bbl nut, either.
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Posted: 11/13/2010 10:06:24 AM
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Originally Posted By vmpglenn:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By SLUHstud:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4129/5168851449_e06c20cf58.jpg

here's what I have so far!!


Looks nice bud! I will have to bust out the camera here and see if i can show my babies off a bit too

BTW i like your idea on the 16 inch krieger from fulton. . . good choice in my book for sure. . .but then u already know that lol

Pat



Thanks Pat! You have been a wonderful help. I just ordered my Larue Tactical 11" handguards tonight



Unfortunately the LaRue handguards use an AR10 pattern barrel nut, which will not work with the MA-TEN. You must use a DPMS or KAC pattern barrel nut.


this is unfortunate news. are you 100% sure?


Yes. LT has no plans in the works for a DPMS bbl nut, either.


shit! that's what I get. i bought it off the EE for a pretty good price. Guess i'll just have to sell it now. ugh.
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Posted: 11/13/2010 10:19:00 AM
That was news to me as well, sorry that it wont workout for ya. I did however add a section to the FAQ regarding this new info we learned, so now everyone will know.

As far as a solution to the issue, you could resell them, OR you could be a badass and see about getting a shop to make you a custom barrel nut, honestly i dont think it would be hard or expensive actually. Then you can be the first with a LaRue DPMS rail!

Shoot me an IM if you are interested in going that way, if you got me the LaRue nut i could easily draw up a cad file on a new DPMS nut for you, and send you the print to take to a shop.

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Posted: 11/13/2010 7:15:09 PM
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The DPMS bolt catch worked fine but I swapped it for the Phase 5 V2,
this is one smooth shooter with the adjustable gas block
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http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa166/redtazdog/Mega308done10w.jpg
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Building another but it will have a adjustabe piston



Your rifle looks awesome. A couple of quick question. I'm planning on building my MA-Ten with the same SWS handguards. How difficult is the installation and can it be installed with a barrel that already has the gas block attached? Thanks.
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Posted: 11/14/2010 12:18:20 AM
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The DPMS bolt catch worked fine but I swapped it for the Phase 5 V2,
this is one smooth shooter with the adjustable gas block
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http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa166/redtazdog/Mega308done10w.jpg
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Building another but it will have a adjustabe piston



Your rifle looks awesome. A couple of quick question. I'm planning on building my MA-Ten with the same SWS handguards. How difficult is the installation and can it be installed with a barrel that already has the gas block attached? Thanks.

The SWS hanguard is easy to install and with a low profile gas block the handguard will slide over it.


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Posted: 11/14/2010 5:06:19 AM
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Every attempt was made to ensure our AR10 handguards work with all .308 AR-platform rifles.
However, variations in some manufacturer's receiver profiles may require some minor gunsmithing (hand-filing, or minor Dremel work) to the LaRue Keeper that locks into the receiver. The Keeper not only prevents the Handguard Nut from loosening, it also prevents the Handguard from rotating, by fitting into the receiver.

I had planned on using their rail on my ma-ten build. there is what you claim and what their site says. so which is it?
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Posted: 11/14/2010 8:46:29 AM
Originally Posted By mothergreen:
NOTE:
Every attempt was made to ensure our AR10 handguards work with all .308 AR-platform rifles.
However, variations in some manufacturer's receiver profiles may require some minor gunsmithing (hand-filing, or minor Dremel work) to the LaRue Keeper that locks into the receiver. The Keeper not only prevents the Handguard Nut from loosening, it also prevents the Handguard from rotating, by fitting into the receiver.

I had planned on using their rail on my ma-ten build. there is what you claim and what their site says. so which is it?


No one is claiming it will fit the ma-ten build. i ordered one thinking it would fit b/c their website said "work with all 308 ar platform rifles". From reading other posts on this and other forums, it's apparent it won't work. That said, me and sluhstud are working on a barrel nut alternative Larue tactical ar10 handguards. so, don't count it out yet.
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Posted: 11/14/2010 9:48:48 AM
Correct... The LT handguards are not the problem its the barrel nut is the problem. The MA-TEN is DPMS/Knight barrel nut compatible and it appears the LT nut is Armalite/Noveske compatable.

I have emailed LT about the matter and should knowfor sure either Monday or Tuesday and will post what they send me on here.

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Posted: 11/14/2010 11:45:18 AM
Originally Posted By Redtazdog:
Originally Posted By Mute:
Originally Posted By Redtazdog:
The DPMS bolt catch worked fine but I swapped it for the Phase 5 V2,
this is one smooth shooter with the adjustable gas block
.
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa166/redtazdog/Mega308done10w.jpg
.
Building another but it will have a adjustabe piston



Your rifle looks awesome. A couple of quick question. I'm planning on building my MA-Ten with the same SWS handguards. How difficult is the installation and can it be installed with a barrel that already has the gas block attached? Thanks.

The SWS hanguard is easy to install and with a low profile gas block the handguard will slide over it.
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa166/redtazdog/DSCN1379w.jpg



Thanks for the info! Appreciate it.
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Posted: 11/14/2010 12:39:17 PM
Originally Posted By Bones972:
Correct... The LT handguards are not the problem its the barrel nut is the problem. The MA-TEN is DPMS/Knight barrel nut compatible and it appears the LT nut is Armalite/Noveske compatable.

I have emailed LT about the matter and should knowfor sure either Monday or Tuesday and will post what they send me on here.

Bones


I posted in their industry forum, but i agree an email/phone call would be better. either way, we will get these to work. i wonder how different other manufacurer dpms specific barrel nuts are...
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Posted: 11/14/2010 2:37:17 PM
My two builds in progress

Build 1
Mega MaTen Reciever set
BCM Gunfighter Large Latch
DPMS BCG
SSA-E trigger group
Seirra Precision Grip
Cav Arms C1 stock with Seirra Precision Adj Butt pad
Krieger 1:11 twist 20 inch m110 profile with 308 battle comp
KAC URX Rail system
KAC Micro rear BUIS
Larue SPR mount
SWFA SS 10xHD glass
( as you can see some parts are still on the way lol )


Build 2

Mega MaTen Reciever set
BCM Medium latch gunfigher
Bill Springe field 3lb battle trigger
Ambi Mag release
Ergo grip
Vltor Emod w slash heavy buffer and spring
I kick hippies SLAP plate
Douglass airguaged xx 13.7 inch with pinned 308 battle comp to reach 16 inches
JP enterprises rifle length handguard with top rail
KAC micro BUIS front and rear
Larue SPR 104
SWFA 1-4 power ss when it comes out
Offset aimpoint micro
( of course missing parts as well. . . hurry up USPS! )


Both together


Pat

PS Nolo is ruining the surprize but he is right, he is going to be getting me some parts to look at and see if we cannot come up with a workable solution to get LaRue Rails to play nice with these Mega MaTen sets, of course Nolo gets the first so he can be the coolest kid on the block with his LaRue Rail setup on his MaTen before anyone else if we can make it work.

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Posted: 11/14/2010 2:40:26 PM
Originally Posted By SLUHstud:
My two builds in progress

Build 1
Mega MaTen Reciever set
BCM Gunfighter Large Latch
DPMS BCG
SSA-E trigger group
Seirra Precision Grip
Cav Arms C1 stock with Seirra Precision Adj Butt pad
Krieger 1:11 twist 20 inch m110 profile with 308 battle comp
KAC URX Rail system
KAC Micro rear BUIS
Larue SPR mount
SWFA SS 10xHD glass
( as you can see some parts are still on the way lol )
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i441/SLUHstud/P1000121.jpg

Build 2

Mega MaTen Reciever set
BCM Medium latch gunfigher
Bill Springe field 3lb battle trigger
Ambi Mag release
Ergo grip
Vltor Emod w slash heavy buffer and spring
I kick hippies SLAP plate
Douglass airguaged xx 13.7 inch with pinned 308 battle comp to reach 16 inches
JP enterprises rifle length handguard with top rail
KAC micro BUIS front and rear
Larue SPR 104
SWFA 1-4 power ss when it comes out
Offset aimpoint micro
( of course missing parts as well. . . hurry up USPS! )
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i441/SLUHstud/P1000120.jpg

Both together
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i441/SLUHstud/P1000122.jpg

Pat

PS Nolo is ruining the surprize but he is right, he is going to be getting me some parts to look at and see if we cannot come up with a workable solution to get LaRue Rails to play nice with these Mega MaTen sets, of course Nolo gets the first so he can be the coolest kid on the block with his LaRue Rail setup on his MaTen before anyone else if we can make it work.



lookin' good!!!

doh! i didn't know it was a surprise!!!
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Posted: 11/14/2010 2:43:43 PM
i am just messing with ya lol, spread the word man. Just got to make sure there isnt something i am over looking in the design though that physically makes it impossible, or increases the difficulty alot.

Pat
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Posted: 11/15/2010 12:32:43 AM
is this decent? I am trying to find a good bolt. I heard dmps isnt that great of a brand.

http://www.jsesurplus.com/dpms308boltcarrierassemblyphosphate-1.aspx
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Posted: 11/15/2010 11:35:19 AM
Where did you hear DPMS wasnt that great of a brand exactly? What was it in relation to? If you ask out there in general discussion about dpms, you very well might get some negative responses, but thats probably from the guys comparing a DPMS to a noveske rifle, or one build by MSTN. DPMS is a mass manufacture like rock river arms, and as such many will shun then thinking they are not good enough to be cool with on the interwebs. I have not heard of any issues with DPMS bolts, especially in 308. In reality thats one of two choices you have, you can get the DPMS bolt, or the armalite bolt, both of which have thier fans and thier detractors. Everyone in the 308 game uses one or the other, Fulton Armory with thier custom titan uses that exact same bolt, and i know fulton armory wouldnt use crap. GAP and APA, both very good custom rifle makers use DPMS bolts in their guns, so I would not be worried.

That is a great price on the bolt as well, however they have the non chrome one for even less if you dont care about having to scrub a little to clean it up.

I would get that bolt, or the other dpms bolt and not lose sleep over it, infact thats what i have. . .and i slept great last night.

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Posted: 11/15/2010 3:44:55 PM
[Last Edit: 11/15/2010 6:21:53 PM by NoloContendere]
My phase5 308 tactical lever came in today. It's a very tight fit and feels like it needs to be sanded down a bit on one of the sides. Also my Slash's modified spring and extra heavy buffer came in today too! just need a barrel and bcg and rail now!!!

eta: just ordered my Chrome DPMS bolt from JSESurplus for $250.
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Posted: 11/15/2010 5:20:30 PM
I'm building a Mega MaTen & I've decided on 2 scopes & was hoping you guys could offer some suggestions . The first scope i was looking at is the USOptics SN3 3.2x17 with 35mm tube & 1/4 moa knobs & a MOA scale reticle . This build with all the options I want is gonna run me around $2800 out the door with mounts .The other scope I'm looking at is the Vortex Razor HD 5x20 with the moa reticle . That scope is gonna run me about $2300 with mounts & all the options I want .I know the USOptics scope is amazing and I've had a chance to actually pick it up & look through it , but is there any reason to get the Vortex over the USOptics other than the difference in price ?
http://www.usoptics.com/product.php?partnumber=SN3-1700
http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-razor-hd-5-20x50-riflescope-with-ebr-1-moa-reticle
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Posted: 11/15/2010 6:09:04 PM
Sorry man, scopes like that are a little to rich for my blood at the moment, but here is a great review on one of them you are looking at. I havent read it recently enough to remeber if its the same ret you are wanting, but its the same scope. Its a review from someone on this site, he goes by LoneWolfUSMC and is active in the precision rifle area in the armory forum. Nice guy from when i have talked to him, I am sure he can help with any questions you have as well.

Hope it helps and sorry i couldnt help more.

Razor review

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Posted: 11/15/2010 6:34:47 PM

Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By mothergreen:
NOTE:
Every attempt was made to ensure our AR10 handguards work with all .308 AR-platform rifles.
However, variations in some manufacturer's receiver profiles may require some minor gunsmithing (hand-filing, or minor Dremel work) to the LaRue Keeper that locks into the receiver. The Keeper not only prevents the Handguard Nut from loosening, it also prevents the Handguard from rotating, by fitting into the receiver.

I had planned on using their rail on my ma-ten build. there is what you claim and what their site says. so which is it?


No one is claiming it will fit the ma-ten build. i ordered one thinking it would fit b/c their website said "work with all 308 ar platform rifles". From reading other posts on this and other forums, it's apparent it won't work. That said, me and sluhstud are working on a barrel nut alternative Larue tactical ar10 handguards. so, don't count it out yet.


great :| I don't really want to go with the shorter DD rail but I suppose if I have to.. thats great news let me know if you plan on making more than just a couple for yourselvs.
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Posted: 11/15/2010 6:46:43 PM
Another potential barrel source is http://blackholeweaponry.com/


I have ordered a polygonal 3 flute barrel from them for my MaTen. I will post a quick review when I get a chance to see/shoot it.

Barrel extension is DPMS style.
Some barrels they chamber for the ar10 .308, 7mm 08, 260rem, 6.5/284
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Posted: 11/15/2010 6:56:03 PM
blackhole is who I'm going with. as for the ar10 part this is from another forum.


"All our AR10 barrels are DPMS compatible and do not fit the Armalite extensions. AR10 is a platform for the larger diameter barrels, an inch and a quarter at the extension end about. Our BCG's are of the DPMS platform as well. Let me know if you need more info.

Thanks Billy"



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Posted: 11/15/2010 7:49:08 PM
Here are some detailed shots of what it looks like:

mag release:


Phase5Tactical 308


difference in Phase5Tac v. regular ar15 bolt catch


another by itself:


UBR extended:


Complete lower:


My dog Kimber wondering where her rifle is:


Everything I have so far: (and can't be an ar15 pic without toes)
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