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meinidaho
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Posted: 8/24/2010 11:23:51 PM
Any new info on this? I tried to IM 320pf and got an error message that his inbox was full. Would like to keep involved and get a barrel some time.
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Posted: 8/27/2010 7:44:13 AM
I flushed my messages so the IM's should work now.

The barrels are getting parkerized.... they should be back next week.

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Posted: 8/27/2010 1:22:09 PM
Did you have any extras made or only enough for those that prepaid?
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Posted: 8/27/2010 3:17:05 PM
I talked with 320pf for quite a while the other day. Thanks! I was impressed with our open discussion of the potential capabilities of this chambering.

This round is really interesting me at this point. I have been seriously looking into getting a 6x45 and do have a 6.8 spc barrel on order. If however, one can get anywhere close to 3000 out of the 25-223 with a 80 grain bullet, the $$ of being able to use the cheap 556 brass and get lots of practice is a real incentive.

Thanks again for all the good info. Looking forward to hearing more, especially the velocities out of the 20" barrels.
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Posted: 8/27/2010 3:29:24 PM
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Did you have any extras made or only enough for those that prepaid?


I am setting up another barrel run. IM me or email me if you are interested in getting in the the next run.

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Posted: 8/28/2010 7:07:04 AM
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Originally Posted By 320pf:
Originally Posted By VaFish:
Did you have any extras made or only enough for those that prepaid?


I am setting up another barrel run. IM me or email me if you are interested in getting in the the next run.

320pf


You got my order on this run already, but I do have a couple of buddies I've been talking to about the build and they said they were interested in a barrel as well. I'll pass your contact info to them.

But I do have another question. Since there seem to be a few of us getting in to the .25-223 and there is very sparse data on the web about it (most that I can find is on other forums by some guy that goes by 320pf). I assume that we'll be sharing some data and posting our results of various handloads. Are we going to do that in this thread or is there a better place to discuss our handloads?
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Posted: 8/29/2010 6:07:45 PM
What muzzle thread are the barrels coming with or is it whatever you ask for?

Has a mid length gas system been tried or have they all been carbine? If so, was the mid-length more or less load sensitive?
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Posted: 8/29/2010 11:11:04 PM
Originally Posted By Altair:
What muzzle thread are the barrels coming with or is it whatever you ask for?

Has a mid length gas system been tried or have they all been carbine? If so, was the mid-length more or less load sensitive?


So far all of the barrels that have been threaded are threaded 5/8-24 TPI. A custom thread is possible.

There is a mid-length (18") and rifle length (20") barrels is the batch that is due to arrive next week.So we do not have nay experience with a mid-length barrel/gas set up yet.

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Posted: 8/30/2010 4:44:49 PM
Originally Posted By 320pf:
Originally Posted By Altair:
What muzzle thread are the barrels coming with or is it whatever you ask for?

Has a mid length gas system been tried or have they all been carbine? If so, was the mid-length more or less load sensitive?


So far all of the barrels that have been threaded are threaded 5/8-24 TPI. A custom thread is possible.

There is a mid-length (18") and rifle length (20") barrels is the batch that is due to arrive next week.So we do not have nay experience with a mid-length barrel/gas set up yet.

320pf



5/8-24 is what I had in mind so that will work. Is there a minimum diameter that is recommended? I like lightweight barrels.
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Posted: 8/30/2010 7:39:58 PM
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18 inch with rifle length gas system?

sound like a good Deer / hog rig
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Posted: 8/30/2010 11:13:42 PM
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18 inch with rifle length gas system?

sound like a good Deer / hog rig


I sent you an IM

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Posted: 9/15/2010 2:58:40 PM
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Barrel is on the way, got the rest of the parts for the build ready, dies are on the way, going to order some bullets and powder through our club, but the way work is going I'm not going to get to load for this thing and shoot it until Mid October.

Good news is I have a 4 day weekend for Columbus day. Sounds like a good way to break it in.
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Posted: 9/15/2010 3:36:19 PM
Originally Posted By VaFish:
Barrel is on the way, got the rest of the parts for the build ready, dies are on the way, going to order some bullets and powder through our club, but the way work is going I'm not going to get to load for this thing and shoot it until Mid October.

Good news is I have a 4 day weekend for Columbus day. Sounds like a good way to break it in.


My barrel is ordered as well. I don't have all the other parts for the build, however, so it may be a while before I get mine put together. I don't have the dies ordered either so thanks for the reminder, I'll have to get them on the way soon.

I went with a lightweight build. From what 320pf had to say it may be the lightest barrel done so far so I'll be sure to post accuracy results for comparison. Hopefully I can get it together and tested before the end of the year.
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Posted: 9/15/2010 4:47:53 PM
Originally Posted By Altair:
Originally Posted By VaFish:
Barrel is on the way, got the rest of the parts for the build ready, dies are on the way, going to order some bullets and powder through our club, but the way work is going I'm not going to get to load for this thing and shoot it until Mid October.

Good news is I have a 4 day weekend for Columbus day. Sounds like a good way to break it in.


My barrel is ordered as well. I don't have all the other parts for the build, however, so it may be a while before I get mine put together. I don't have the dies ordered either so thanks for the reminder, I'll have to get them on the way soon.

I went with a lightweight build. From what 320pf had to say it may be the lightest barrel done so far so I'll be sure to post accuracy results for comparison. Hopefully I can get it together and tested before the end of the year.


Sounds like we're all in the same boat. My barrels on the way, and I have all the rest of the parts (and I mean everything, including optics, CH4D dies, and components) ready to go. However, I'm in the middle of a protracted move, so it will likely be a month or more before I get things up and running.

Let's not let this thread fade away though. Even though it might be a bit, I can't wait to start testing and sharing data on this promising cartridge.

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Posted: 9/15/2010 6:17:42 PM
Can't wait to see some data on this cartridge. I'm getting rid of my .308 to go to the regular AR platform for less weight. Trying to decide between .25-225, .300/221, and 7.62x40 (if barrels ever get made again) for hunting. Hope this cartridge works out well for deer and hog slaying.
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Posted: 9/15/2010 6:43:28 PM
Originally Posted By agBQ08:
Can't wait to see some data on this cartridge. I'm getting rid of my .308 to go to the regular AR platform for less weight. Trying to decide between .25-225, .300/221, and 7.62x40 (if barrels ever get made again) for hunting. Hope this cartridge works out well for deer and hog slaying.


My plan is to take a deer with it this year. Luckily we have a very long season. Gun season starts Mid November and runs until 1 January 2011, then the late antlerless season kick in until March 26th. That's 4 1/2 months of gun season. I better see something during that time frame.
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Posted: 9/15/2010 9:23:47 PM
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Well here is what the barrels look like. The lengths are 16, 18, and 20 inches. There are five formed cases on the bottom and five loaded rounds at maximum case length (~2.258").



Nothing fancy, but they should shoot well if they are anything like the first batch that Graycard and I put together.


Graycard's handiwork (see top of this thread)

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Posted: 9/15/2010 9:37:17 PM
Originally Posted By 320pf:
Well here is what the barrels look like. The lengths are 16, 18, and 20 inches. There are five formed cases on the bottom and five loaded rounds at maximum case length (~2.258").

320pf

http://www.quarterbore.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1003&d=1284599966


Hello 320pf...quick question what is the gasport diameter of the barrels? I'm having short stroking issues w/ my 6X45 AR barrel, maybe the gasport is to small....Thanks.

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Originally Posted By 320pf:
Well here is what the barrels look like. The lengths are 16, 18, and 20 inches. There are five formed cases on the bottom and five loaded rounds at maximum case length (~2.258").

320pf

http://www.quarterbore.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1003&d=1284599966


Hello 320pf...quick question what is the gasport diameter of the barrels? I'm having short stroking issues w/ my 6X45 AR barrel, maybe the gasport is to small....Thanks.



The gas ports are most likely too small.

I start them out a 0.0625" and open the port up until the gun cycles. So far the people that are getting to barrels are OK with working out the correct port diameter on their own...

The fun of working up a wildcat.

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Posted: 9/15/2010 9:58:52 PM
You guys are going to have some fun. Keep us updated on loads. Even thought I have a good bit of luck with my loads I'm always willing to try something new.
So far the only game to come in front of my rifle was a Copperhead. This young man came by this past Sat. but I decided I didn't want to make him mad by shooting him with a .25. But I will try it out on deer this year.
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Posted: 9/16/2010 9:41:56 AM
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Originally Posted By 320pf:
Well here is what the barrels look like. The lengths are 16, 18, and 20 inches. There are five formed cases on the bottom and five loaded rounds at maximum case length (~2.258").

http://www.quarterbore.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1003&d=1284599966

Nothing fancy, but they should shoot well if they are anything like the first batch that Graycard and I put together.


....

320pf



I'm guessing that's mine on the left

Hopefully mailman will deliver a package today!!!

Is the Wombat getting the 18" barrel? or is that for someone else?




Dang, I just thought of something else I need to buy.

I don't have any .25 cleaning brushes or jags. This is my first quarterbore.
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Posted: 9/16/2010 10:32:25 AM
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Yep. The 18" is coming my way. A pic of the complete build will be posted when I'm done.

Interesting that the rifle-length barrel has the port at the mid-length position.

Oh, and by the way, thanks to 320pf for putting this all together. My hat is off to you, sir.

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Yep. The 18" is coming my way. A pic of the complete build will be posted when I'm done.

Interesting that the rifle-length barrel has the port at the mid-length position.

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I talked with 320pf about that on the phone, I think his plan was to try both locations and see which worked better.

And I'm not sure he even had the holes drilled yet, they look just like dimples to me. Then again I don't see a pin on the barrel so we may be looking at the under side of it.
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Posted: 9/16/2010 10:53:07 AM
Hello fellas, well I have a 6mm-223(6X45) Ar Barrel w/ a Rifle length gasport and I'm getting short stroking and I've narrowed it down the problem to the gasport hole being to small (Its about .086-.088").

So, Rifle length is fine (better velocity and less stress on the BCG)...may have to go with a larger gasport...

Mid-Length is also very good and less prone to short stroking and good comprimise....


Well, I hope this helps...My two cents, but it may be worth less
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Posted: 9/16/2010 11:27:58 AM
Originally Posted By Dr69er:
Hello fellas, well I have a 6mm-223(6X45) Ar Barrel w/ a Rifle length gasport and I'm getting short stroking and I've narrowed it down the problem to the gasport hole being to small (Its about .086-.088").

So, Rifle length is fine (better velocity and less stress on the BCG)...may have to go with a larger gasport...

Mid-Length is also very good and less prone to short stroking and good comprimise....


Well, I hope this helps...My two cents, but it may be worth less


My 6mm TCU has the same system but I had to run a .095 to get it running right.
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