Not all the dudes in the know teach totally squared up.   It never felt very natural to me and I thought I was doing it wrong if I bladed.  There's a lot of things you pick up on here that are supposedly the "right" way to do things.  But then you find out dudes that know how to shoot don't always do what the hive of arfcom says.  

Things seem to be loosening up about what is "acceptable" around here.  But 10 years ago if you bladed at all you received a tongue lashing, sharp criticism, etc etc.  But dudes that have actually been shot at and shoot at people and lived to tell about it, don't always do things the ARFcom way.  Or what WAS the arfcom way.  

The best way to learn is to get instruction from a reputable instructor.  But even then you have to try and figure out what works best for you.  Like Harv said, he didn't do what Pat said exactly, because it just didn't work for him.  Personally, I blade a good amount and I feel I can swing better left to right if I'm bladed.  Totally squared is just like, ewwwww.   I know Vickers shoots pretty bladed.  And there are other guys.   Costa shoots totally squared.  Good for him.  And that might work for other people too.  


Part of learning is getting out there and trying different things while shooting.  Trying different things while dry firing.  Etc etc.   I'm certainly not an expert.  But what I do know is that there is no 1 way of doing it, even though some will try to tell you there is.  That's my main point.

the reason that being 'squared up' in shooting a rifle came about is that the HSLD community wanted to put body armor (generally a front facing rifle plate) facing the threat

5' 10" - 2nd or 3rd notch on a 6-position stock.  Most of my rifles have a MagPul .70 enhanced buttpad installed, so they get position 2.  
I have a fairly bony collarbone, and the edge of the stock tends to push against it when snugged into my shoulder pocket.  The longer buttpad takes care of the issue and, IMO, gives a better grip.

Jesus, thank you. I was starting to think that I was the only person left who knows the right way to do this.

All the way out is the correct answer.

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Plates and a carrier add ZERO to my LOP and IMO if it does add LOP your plates are too big. I also don't run a carrier that forces me to place my stock onto a padded shoulder strap.

As short as you possibly can and still shoot prone. If you have to extend your stock to shoot prone, it's too short. The middle of a firefight is not the time to adjust stock length.

Yes this, just find the shortest setting that works in prone and use that.

To each their own as long as your fundamentals are there. I run a CTR on a 14.5". Im 2 clicks back with my xps2-0 on thr upper receiver closest to the free float tube. I run a bcm stubby grip 3 notches back on a 12" keymod rail. This is comfortable and suits me well for my style. I can hit with it, and it maximizes ergonomics for me. My buddy however picks it up and shows way more recoil than myself, and has trouble staying on target. He also hunches his shoulders to be able to get sight picture. Hos fundamentals are as sound as mine when he runs his rifles suited to him. Just find what keeps your fundamentals in check and keep everything in tight and natural with no over exaggerated body positions, and you should be fine. Plenty of shooters out there on the tube to watch.

I've looked at this since the thread started, and I've noticed that Kyle Lamb, Mike Lamb, Pat McNamara, Kyle Defoor, Frank Proctor and others, all advocate a fully extended stock for greater control over the weapon. Food for thought.

Hers a way to measure LOP

Another data point for discussion.

There is No Easy Answer.

It all depends on multiple factors like:

- Rifle configuration
- What kind of Optic/Sight is used
- Shooting Position
- Intended Target (single or multiple/distance/etc)
- Physical Body Dimensions + Clothing/Equipment

I continue to see posts like these asking for simplistic answers to complex questions.