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Posted: 8/18/2016 10:34:28 PM EDT
Building my lightweight rifle. Was looking at these from brownellss. Was wondering if they are good and weight.
Link Posted: 8/19/2016 12:01:41 AM EDT
[#1]
For that price, I'd be looking at something different.  As for weight, that latch looks pretty big.  I'd imagine it weighs near as much if not more than a standard GI CH.

http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/bolt-parts/charging-handle-parts/charging-handles/ar-15-m16-para-trooper-charging-handle-prod41942.aspx
Link Posted: 8/19/2016 12:43:24 AM EDT
[#2]
Looks more like a gimmick than anything. Paratroopers (US .mil anyway) use the standard GI type on their weapons. The weapon goes in a case that gets dropped on a line 15 feet below, so unless you are an idiot and don't drop your gear (unless you do a tree landing) you should not be landing on your equipment.

My concern is how good are those pins that hold the latch to the main body of the CH?
Link Posted: 8/19/2016 11:11:59 AM EDT
[#3]
Total gimmick
Link Posted: 8/19/2016 11:16:43 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/19/2016 12:51:46 PM EDT
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Ok thanks for the info guys. Will.stick with a standard handle then.
Link Posted: 8/19/2016 12:55:38 PM EDT
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Good idea.

Because that is the
Real ParaTrooper charging handle.
Link Posted: 8/25/2016 3:13:41 AM EDT
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Looks more like a gimmick than anything. Paratroopers (US .mil anyway) use the standard GI type on their weapons. The weapon goes in a case that gets dropped on a line 15 feet below, so unless you are an idiot and don't drop your gear (unless you do a tree landing) you should not be landing on your equipment.

My concern is how good are those pins that hold the latch to the main body of the CH?
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I rocked this on my M4 for every trip as a Paratrooper :
www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/bolt-parts/charging-handle-parts/latches/ar-15-m16-tactical-latch-prod1387.aspx

any time someone lists something meant to streamline a gun in conjunction with Airborne Operations is completely and utterly full of shit since Paratroopers always and only jump with their rifles ready to rock, stowed in one of these


and is secured to the Paratrooper's side thusly:



The ones the 82nd uses are modified to be able to accept anything from an M4 to a M240B, and there is a procedure to get weapons into action immediately upon hitting the ground. There is literally zero reason whatsoever a Paratrooper would put some bullshit like that on his rifle. It is more important that the rifle function efficiently and easily when on the ground.
Link Posted: 8/25/2016 9:12:07 AM EDT
[#8]
I have found those extended replacement latches to dig into my chest when carrying the rifle and my back when in a two point sling.  I dont wear armor.

For me, it is either the standard M4 charge handle or the Raptor, which gives extra extended grip without discomfort.
Link Posted: 8/25/2016 6:53:16 PM EDT
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I rocked this on my M4 for every trip as a Paratrooper :
www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/bolt-parts/charging-handle-parts/latches/ar-15-m16-tactical-latch-prod1387.aspx

any time someone lists something meant to streamline a gun in conjunction with Airborne Operations is completely and utterly full of shit since Paratroopers always and only jump with their rifles ready to rock, stowed in one of these
http://www.unclesamsretailoutlet.com/v/vspfiles/photos/1345-4.jpg

and is secured to the Paratrooper's side thusly:

http://www.aiirsource.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/airborne-operations-night-jump-8-1280x768.jpg

The ones the 82nd uses are modified to be able to accept anything from an M4 to a M240B, and there is a procedure to get weapons into action immediately upon hitting the ground. There is literally zero reason whatsoever a Paratrooper would put some bullshit like that on his rifle. It is more important that the rifle function efficiently and easily when on the ground.
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Looks more like a gimmick than anything. Paratroopers (US .mil anyway) use the standard GI type on their weapons. The weapon goes in a case that gets dropped on a line 15 feet below, so unless you are an idiot and don't drop your gear (unless you do a tree landing) you should not be landing on your equipment.

My concern is how good are those pins that hold the latch to the main body of the CH?

I rocked this on my M4 for every trip as a Paratrooper :
www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/bolt-parts/charging-handle-parts/latches/ar-15-m16-tactical-latch-prod1387.aspx

any time someone lists something meant to streamline a gun in conjunction with Airborne Operations is completely and utterly full of shit since Paratroopers always and only jump with their rifles ready to rock, stowed in one of these
http://www.unclesamsretailoutlet.com/v/vspfiles/photos/1345-4.jpg

and is secured to the Paratrooper's side thusly:

http://www.aiirsource.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/airborne-operations-night-jump-8-1280x768.jpg

The ones the 82nd uses are modified to be able to accept anything from an M4 to a M240B, and there is a procedure to get weapons into action immediately upon hitting the ground. There is literally zero reason whatsoever a Paratrooper would put some bullshit like that on his rifle. It is more important that the rifle function efficiently and easily when on the ground.


Not sure if you're directing that at me, but yes I know how the whole thing goes. I jump myself.
Link Posted: 8/25/2016 11:54:52 PM EDT
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Not sure if you're directing that at me, but yes I know how the whole thing goes. I jump myself.
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Looks more like a gimmick than anything. Paratroopers (US .mil anyway) use the standard GI type on their weapons. The weapon goes in a case that gets dropped on a line 15 feet below, so unless you are an idiot and don't drop your gear (unless you do a tree landing) you should not be landing on your equipment.

My concern is how good are those pins that hold the latch to the main body of the CH?

I rocked this on my M4 for every trip as a Paratrooper :
www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/bolt-parts/charging-handle-parts/latches/ar-15-m16-tactical-latch-prod1387.aspx

any time someone lists something meant to streamline a gun in conjunction with Airborne Operations is completely and utterly full of shit since Paratroopers always and only jump with their rifles ready to rock, stowed in one of these
http://www.unclesamsretailoutlet.com/v/vspfiles/photos/1345-4.jpg

and is secured to the Paratrooper's side thusly:

http://www.aiirsource.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/airborne-operations-night-jump-8-1280x768.jpg

The ones the 82nd uses are modified to be able to accept anything from an M4 to a M240B, and there is a procedure to get weapons into action immediately upon hitting the ground. There is literally zero reason whatsoever a Paratrooper would put some bullshit like that on his rifle. It is more important that the rifle function efficiently and easily when on the ground.


Not sure if you're directing that at me, but yes I know how the whole thing goes. I jump myself.

Just the first sentence. My experience has been that as long as you keep your GI charging handle (and put it back when you turn your gun back in), you can get away with swapping the entire thing out.

The rest was for General knowledge and wasn't intended to incite anything.
Link Posted: 8/26/2016 1:18:45 AM EDT
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Just the first sentence. My experience has been that as long as you keep your GI charging handle (and put it back when you turn your gun back in), you can get away with swapping the entire thing out.

The rest was for General knowledge and wasn't intended to incite anything.
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Not sure if you're directing that at me, but yes I know how the whole thing goes. I jump myself.

Just the first sentence. My experience has been that as long as you keep your GI charging handle (and put it back when you turn your gun back in), you can get away with swapping the entire thing out.

The rest was for General knowledge and wasn't intended to incite anything.


Ah gotcha. I'd prefer if they'd let me set it up my way. I'd change out the pistol grip (BCM Mod3) and receiver end plate (QD mount) to like I have on my personal rifle.
Link Posted: 8/26/2016 1:34:03 AM EDT
[#12]
No idea about current use but awhile back, pre 911, open weapons jumps were not uncommon in USASOC. Not saying it ever required a special CH but, iirc, it was one of the reasons for the A2 bbl profile..to reduce the number of bent bbls when jumping w/exposed weapons that occured with the A1 profile.
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