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Posted: 7/7/2015 12:06:04 PM EDT
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I have some parts on the way and others have arrived. I went on GunStruction and made a rendering of what my gun should look like once its finished. Most of the parts pictured are what I plan to use with a few exceptions:
- Safety Selectors- I will be trying out the V7 Hybrid 3 gun ambi (Pictured are BAD ASS) - Mag Catch/Release I would like to get the V7 Ti - BUIS, MBUS Pro are pictured but I would like to get my hands on Bobro Lowriders. - The barrel pictured is the 10.5 BAD. I am on the waiting list for one but ordered a Raineer Match 10.5 for now. From what I have read the Raineer should do the trick just fine. - Optic pictured is a real T1, at first i am going to go with the PA clone. The PDW lower is on its way. As is the MK4 rail, and barrel. The V7 selectors arrived yesterday. 
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Posted: 7/27/2015 2:45:01 PM EDT
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Does anybody have any information on the MMC Armory BCG set-up. If anybody has one personally can you post a picture of the bolt carrier group? Id like more info on it and can't find anything in my searches. Is MMC Armory PDW BCG like NEA, Troy where the buffer is one with the bolt carrier? TIA if anybody can share information on it!e
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Posted: 7/27/2015 7:09:16 PM EDT
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Sorry accidental post...
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Posted: 7/27/2015 7:16:05 PM EDT
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MidWay has some good pics if you have not seen them yet http://www.midwayusa.com/product/3058121848/troy-industries-m7a1-pdw-stock-assembly-ar-15 Some decent photos and comentary on the AK forum: http://www.ak47.net/forums/t_1_5/1581977_Troy_s_new_PDW_stock__enough_for_you_to_forgive_them_.html&page=4&anc=bottom#bottom If you're responding to Armddefender, he was asking about the MMC stock. ETA: I see you caught it 
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Posted: 7/28/2015 11:31:18 PM EDT
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Would any of these be legal with a 16" barrel, not SBR? 26" OAL? Looks close. This is an old post, but don't see my point addressed... OAL is determined and measured with the stock fully extended. It is measured at the longest fireable length, not the shortest. There is no NFA issue here as long as your barrel is 16". |
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Posted: 7/29/2015 12:05:05 AM EDT
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This is an old post, but don't see my point addressed... OAL is determined and measured with the stock fully extended. It is measured at the longest fireable length, not the shortest. There is no NFA issue here as long as your barrel is 16". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would any of these be legal with a 16" barrel, not SBR? 26" OAL? Looks close. This is an old post, but don't see my point addressed... OAL is determined and measured with the stock fully extended. It is measured at the longest fireable length, not the shortest. There is no NFA issue here as long as your barrel is 16". Do you have link/citation for that? I was under the impression that it was based on the most compact but still fully functional configuration. Thanks Wes |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 12:45:44 AM EDT
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Do you have link/citation for that? I was under the impression that it wax based on the most compact but still fully functional configuration. Thanks Wes Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would any of these be legal with a 16" barrel, not SBR? 26" OAL? Looks close. This is an old post, but don't see my point addressed... OAL is determined and measured with the stock fully extended. It is measured at the longest fireable length, not the shortest. There is no NFA issue here as long as your barrel is 16". Do you have link/citation for that? I was under the impression that it wax based on the most compact but still fully functional configuration. Thanks Wes From Jeff Cross: "OAL is 23.625" to end of 10.5 barrel/ no flash hider in collapsed position." Add 5.5" to that for a 16" barrel... Your well within the NFA guidelines. |
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Posted: 9/3/2015 11:17:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you have link/citation for that? I was under the impression that it was based on the most compact but still fully functional configuration. Thanks Wes Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Would any of these be legal with a 16" barrel, not SBR? 26" OAL? Looks close. This is an old post, but don't see my point addressed... OAL is determined and measured with the stock fully extended. It is measured at the longest fireable length, not the shortest. There is no NFA issue here as long as your barrel is 16". Do you have link/citation for that? I was under the impression that it was based on the most compact but still fully functional configuration. Thanks Wes |
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Posted: 9/5/2015 8:11:18 AM EDT
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Do any of these companies sell the tube/spring/buffer separate from the stock akin to gunsmoke's short buffer tube
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Posted: 9/7/2015 12:22:15 AM EDT
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My super micro review: The Troy PDW stock is very good at making an extremely compact lightweight rifle. If I were to swap my KX-3 to a standard flash hider I would have a sub six rifle. The trade off you make is a significantly reduced cheek weld, and you need to use a proprietary carrier, which means you can't use a piston configuration or a 9MM BCG. Comfort is fine, unless you are Parmesan cheese, at which point you will be ground to a fine topping by the stock. Due to the cheek weld issue, I recommend some sort of parallax free red dot. (And if you use a Dual Illuminated RMR - BUIS too) Here is a Stock Comparison album And an Over/Under with a UCIW PDW - the FDE rifle has a shorter barrel (7 1/8 - despite it being sold as a 7.5") and a shorter flash hider. (Spikes with the thread protector) http://i.imgur.com/sOD2M2B.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ulfhednar_42, It sounds like you have this stock. How do you like it? Can we trouble you for a brief review? My super micro review: The Troy PDW stock is very good at making an extremely compact lightweight rifle. If I were to swap my KX-3 to a standard flash hider I would have a sub six rifle. The trade off you make is a significantly reduced cheek weld, and you need to use a proprietary carrier, which means you can't use a piston configuration or a 9MM BCG. Comfort is fine, unless you are Parmesan cheese, at which point you will be ground to a fine topping by the stock. Due to the cheek weld issue, I recommend some sort of parallax free red dot. (And if you use a Dual Illuminated RMR - BUIS too) Here is a Stock Comparison album And an Over/Under with a UCIW PDW - the FDE rifle has a shorter barrel (7 1/8 - despite it being sold as a 7.5") and a shorter flash hider. (Spikes with the thread protector) http://i.imgur.com/sOD2M2B.jpg I still think that UCIW stock from LWRC is hands down the best PDW stock on the market. It's so much faster to adjust, and much better/comfortable cheek weld. |
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Posted: 9/7/2015 12:36:32 AM EDT
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I still think that UCIW stock from LWRC is hands down the best PDW stock on the market. It's so much faster to adjust, and much better/comfortable cheek weld. I agree - it's a great stock, better cheek weld/comfort for sure. Unless you "need" to have a 1.8" shorter rifle, the UCIW is my recommendation. (Yep - still have both) The troy collapses faster, extends just as fast as any other stock I have. (You can push the release with your strong hand thumb and just collapse the stock into your shoulder) |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 11:46:10 PM EDT
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interesting rifle just came out from Rainier, the Rainier Arms PDW. The interesting part is that is has a PDW stock made by BAD, however BAD does not have it on their website and I cant find it anywhere else online. Furthermore the stock looks exactly like that found on the CMT monolithic PDW Lower, which was developed by CMT/BAD. I am looking forward to finding that stock for sale as a stand-alone component.
http://www.rainierarms.com/rainier-arms-ultramatch-pdw-sbr |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 12:12:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/4/2015 8:09:04 PM EDT
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They're going to release a 9mm specific buffer for the MVB in the next few weeks is the rumor. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm curious to know if there are any 9mm "sub gun" compatible setups out there. The BAD looks like it might possibly work but it will require modification to the lower for 9mm or adding a drop in block. Wes The MVB is, there is video of it with a 9mm lower. They're going to release a 9mm specific buffer for the MVB in the next few weeks is the rumor. This is a few months old now. Anybody try it? Would really like to know if it works with a Lone Wolf lower (Glock mags). |
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Posted: 12/6/2015 7:54:58 AM EDT
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interesting rifle just came out from Rainier, the Rainier Arms PDW. The interesting part is that is has a PDW stock made by BAD, however BAD does not have it on their website and I cant find it anywhere else online. Furthermore the stock looks exactly like that found on the CMT monolithic PDW Lower, which was developed by CMT/BAD. I am looking forward to finding that stock for sale as a stand-alone component. http://www.rainierarms.com/rainier-arms-ultramatch-pdw-sbr For anyone reading this (now a couple of months later), BAD does make both their own PDW stock and their own monolithic PDW lower. The stock is basically the same as CMT's, since they developed it together, with one important difference. BAD's uses their own proprietary short-buffer system, which allows it to be smaller (4.75") when collapsed. |
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Posted: 12/6/2015 8:20:59 AM EDT
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Rhino Arms
OP is incorrect. Any rifle with a PDW stock on it is just a rifle. Any short barreled rifle with a PDW is still an SBR. This stock does not change anything about the legal classification of a firearm that already has a stock. It's just a stock, nothing more. |
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Posted: 1/21/2016 4:32:00 PM EDT
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Looks like alot of new options are coming to market in 2016. A few I have noticed thus far are:
1) Strike Industries LInk 2) Armaspec XPDW link 3) Battle Arms Development Vert Stock - LINK 4) BAD Monolithic PDW Lower (Full Kit) - LINK 5) RHINO - Link If anyone has seen some other that are not on the master list quote this post with the additions and links and I will update the master list. |
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Posted: 1/21/2016 4:40:23 PM EDT
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Rhino Arms OP is incorrect. Any rifle with a PDW stock on it is just a rifle. Any short barreled rifle with a PDW is still an SBR. This stock does not change anything about the legal classification of a firearm that already has a stock. It's just a stock, nothing more. This is correct. I did not intend to suggest that a PDW stock made a rifle a SBR... sorry if I was unclear or miscommunicated this info. A rifle is an SBR if it is shorter than the required OAL (cant remember specifically what the measurement is) and/or the barrel is shorter than 16". |
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Posted: 1/21/2016 4:53:43 PM EDT
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Looks like alot of new options are coming to market in 2016. A few I have noticed thus far are: 1) Strike Industries LInk Neat 2) Armaspec XPDW link If it's no shorter than a standard carbine stock, what's the point? 3) Battle Arms Development Vert Stock - LINK Neat 4) BAD Monolithic PDW Lower (Full Kit) - LINK Neat, but not $900 neat 5) RHINO - Link Meh... If anyone has seen some other that are not on the master list quote this post with the additions and links and I will update the master list. There's also the Falkor Defense Optimus stock that showed up at shot show: 
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Posted: 1/21/2016 5:39:12 PM EDT
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There's also the Falkor Defense Optimus stock that showed up at shot show: https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xta1/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e15/12556099_828813523931396_1378225277_n.jpg http://instux.com/p/1158241300618671554_1275451020/ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like alot of new options are coming to market in 2016. A few I have noticed thus far are: 1) Strike Industries LInk Neat 2) Armaspec XPDW link If it's no shorter than a standard carbine stock, what's the point? 3) Battle Arms Development Vert Stock - LINK Neat 4) BAD Monolithic PDW Lower (Full Kit) - LINK Neat, but not $900 neat 5) RHINO - Link Meh... If anyone has seen some other that are not on the master list quote this post with the additions and links and I will update the master list. There's also the Falkor Defense Optimus stock that showed up at shot show: https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xta1/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e15/12556099_828813523931396_1378225277_n.jpg http://instux.com/p/1158241300618671554_1275451020/ Now that one's cool. I'm glad there's competition in the MP5 style stocks, but it's also really cool to see new designs like that. Hope it's not ludicrously expensive and that it works well. |
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Posted: 1/21/2016 6:09:17 PM EDT
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I just hope Falkor releases it...separately. Still waiting on that AR15 charging handle.
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Posted: 1/21/2016 6:10:50 PM EDT
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I just hope Falkor releases it...separately. Still waiting on that AR15 charging handle. I want to say one of their guys at shot said it would be under $200. I think I saw a video of that anyway. |
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Posted: 1/21/2016 9:55:58 PM EDT
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I want to say one of their guys at shot said it would be under $200. I think I saw a video of that anyway. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just hope Falkor releases it...separately. Still waiting on that AR15 charging handle. I want to say one of their guys at shot said it would be under $200. I think I saw a video of that anyway. Wow. That'd be nice! |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 11:55:55 AM EDT
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FINALLY one that MIGHT hold up to the slightly more recoil of the .458 SOCOM. NONE of the others I would even try to use on a .458S unless they sent me one free to try out, and even then, only with great trepidation. I have no faith in all that any of them would hold up and would actually collapse under the recoil in very short order I've had the .458 S auto-collapse one stock on me and it was not a pleasant experience, doing significant damage to the stock in the process, so I sure am not going to try it with a $300+ stock. But this Falkor one might just hold up depending on its locking mechanism. I'd love to see the details of the locking mechanism.
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