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Posted: 1/27/2015 7:46:06 AM EDT
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When I do a build, I build it like I might have to bet my life on it someday. Cheap parts usually go south in short order. Maybe when you need it.
My personal choice for a BCG or a Charging handle is Bravo Company. Their Gunfighter charging handle is one of the best up grades you can make to a AR. I personally prefer the Medium one. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 8:00:38 AM EDT
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The BCG is not something you want to skimp on. I personally use Spikes Tactical BCG's, but there are a lot of good ones out there. BCM, Spikes, LMT, Daniel Defense and many others.
The charging handle is more a matter of preference. A standard USGI charging handle will do you fine. If you want or need something something oversized or ambidextrous, the AXTS Raptor or BCM Gunfighter series are 2 of the more popular choices. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 9:27:02 AM EDT
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Except for loose gas keys problems with carriers seem rare.
It is my perception that the bolts from BCM, Spikes, and similar quality vendors last longer. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 10:17:52 AM EDT
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Disagree about the more inexpensive BCGs are somehow less reliable. The market and arfcom weeds out the vendors that make garbage. Do a search for Ice Arms and you will see what I am talking about.
AimSurplus and PSA (not PTAC) are inexpensive and reliable options. You don't NEED a NiB carrier and Sharp Reliabolt and actually if you do your research these products that are marketed to increase reliability have their problems as well. If you buy from a good vendor you are going to be happy. With something like Spikes or BCM you really have bullet proof quality for a slight premium and there is obviously still value there. With AimSurplus and PSA you have great quality and great customer service with the best prices. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 10:36:19 AM EDT
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These days, I normally just grab one of AIM's. I've got BCG's from quite a few companies and they have all worked fine so far.
BCM makes a great product, but it's just a mil-spec BCG. If I'm going to spend how much they want I'll get an ARP Superbolt (which is my go to for all my 6.8 guns). Currently I've got bolts/BCG's from AIM, PSA, PTAC, Daniel Defense, Colt, FN, MGI, Larue, Rguns, ARP, Spikes and maybe a few others I've forgotten. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 11:34:28 AM EDT
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I just bought my first "upgraded" BCG and charging handle. Went with the AIM NiBo for $109...worth EVERY penny. Hopefully it lasts and performs as long and well as I've read it should. And it looks cool, feels solid. Went with the BCM Gunfighter and that even makes a world of difference when charging the rifle. I have buddies that swear by their raptors as well, but I was in the same boat as you wondering if it were worth the extra coin...and I can tell you it is.
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Posted: 1/27/2015 4:32:27 PM EDT
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Here is what sub standard “right material” BC looked like after 2500 rounds…..
You can get the right material from anyone, the processes on how that material is machined and finished (hardening etc.) are what make the difference. Here is what the bolt looked like after 200 rounds…..description said “Milspec”. It might be 158 but it wasn’t hardened right and possibly out of spec ……it functioned fine but it was a matter of time before it blew MPI stamp and all 
Do your homework, don’t break the bank just find who makes them right at a right price there are lots |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 4:37:47 PM EDT
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An overlooked quality supplier of BCG's is Toolcraft. They have .mil contracts for replacement parts and are available at decent prices. I would not pay extra for a BCM over a Toolcraft.
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Posted: 1/27/2015 9:25:10 PM EDT
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An overlooked quality supplier of BCG's is Toolcraft. They have .mil contracts for replacement parts and are available at decent prices. I would have not pay extra for a BCM over a Toolcraft. +1 on Toolcraft! Just grabbed one a week or so ago for $113 shipped! Lifetime warranty too!  </a>" />
edited to note price was not $113 shipped, price was $113 and I believe shipping was $5 or $7 from WCMARMORY.COM, my bad. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 10:14:58 PM EDT
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+1 on Toolcraft! Just grabbed one a week or so ago for $113 shipped! Lifetime warranty too! http://<a href=http://i1362.photobucket.com/albums/r681/johnb1349/WP_20150120_0021024x768_zps68d22a38.jpg</a>" /> Quote HistoryQuoted:
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An overlooked quality supplier of BCG's is Toolcraft. They have .mil contracts for replacement parts and are available at decent prices. I would have not pay extra for a BCM over a Toolcraft. +1 on Toolcraft! Just grabbed one a week or so ago for $113 shipped! Lifetime warranty too! http://<a href=http://i1362.photobucket.com/albums/r681/johnb1349/WP_20150120_0021024x768_zps68d22a38.jpg</a>" /> Thanks ordered a BCG for my 5.56, been looking for a good deal like this. Hopefully they are as well made as their pics make them look and I can order a coated carrier for my 6.8. |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 7:50:34 AM EDT
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+1 on Toolcraft! Just grabbed one a week or so ago for $113 shipped! Lifetime warranty too! http://<a href=http://i1362.photobucket.com/albums/r681/johnb1349/WP_20150120_0021024x768_zps68d22a38.jpg</a>" /> edited to note price was not $113 shipped, price was $113 and I believe shipping was $5 or $7 from WCMARMORY.COM, my bad. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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An overlooked quality supplier of BCG's is Toolcraft. They have .mil contracts for replacement parts and are available at decent prices. I would have not pay extra for a BCM over a Toolcraft. +1 on Toolcraft! Just grabbed one a week or so ago for $113 shipped! Lifetime warranty too! http://<a href=http://i1362.photobucket.com/albums/r681/johnb1349/WP_20150120_0021024x768_zps68d22a38.jpg</a>" /> edited to note price was not $113 shipped, price was $113 and I believe shipping was $5 or $7 from WCMARMORY.COM, my bad. Where did you get this bolt for $113? the website wcmarmory.com doesn't seem to be active. |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 5:54:00 PM EDT
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Where did you get this bolt for $113? the website wcmarmory.com doesn't seem to be active. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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An overlooked quality supplier of BCG's is Toolcraft. They have .mil contracts for replacement parts and are available at decent prices. I would have not pay extra for a BCM over a Toolcraft. +1 on Toolcraft! Just grabbed one a week or so ago for $113 shipped! Lifetime warranty too! http://<a href=http://i1362.photobucket.com/albums/r681/johnb1349/WP_20150120_0021024x768_zps68d22a38.jpg</a>" /> edited to note price was not $113 shipped, price was $113 and I believe shipping was $5 or $7 from WCMARMORY.COM, my bad. Where did you get this bolt for $113? the website wcmarmory.com doesn't seem to be active. Linky: http://www.wcarmory.com/toolcraft-bcg-223-5-56-bolt-carrier-group-mpi-ni-bo-t-c-engraved.htm ugh! I just re-read my post, it's WCARMORY. Sorry. In stock as of this post. |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 7:38:11 PM EDT
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I went Colt on the BCG and Rainier for the CH.
It's the only way to be sure. 
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Posted: 1/28/2015 7:43:02 PM EDT
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I went Colt on the BCG and Rainier for the CH. It's the only way to be sure. I recently bought a few colt bcg. Previously I had psa, dd, rca, and a few others. The colt is a cut above. |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 8:03:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I recently bought a few colt bcg. Previously I had psa, dd, rca, and a few others. The colt is a cut above. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I went Colt on the BCG and Rainier for the CH. It's the only way to be sure. I recently bought a few colt bcg. Previously I had psa, dd, rca, and a few others. The colt is a cut above. |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 9:23:39 PM EDT
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An overlooked quality supplier of BCG's is Toolcraft. They have .mil contracts for replacement parts and are available at decent prices. I would not pay extra for a BCM over a Toolcraft. Their sister company sells the Toolcraft carriers and bolts under the Cryptic Coatings branding. I am running one and really like it: 
http://www.crypticcoatings.com/coated-bolt-carrier-group/ |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 4:08:21 AM EDT
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Keep telling yourself that. There are some BCG's that could be considered a cut above DD but Colt isn't one of them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I went Colt on the BCG and Rainier for the CH. It's the only way to be sure. I recently bought a few colt bcg. Previously I had psa, dd, rca, and a few others. The colt is a cut above. I'll beg to differ having owned multiple examples of both. I must presume that material is as specified from either. Colt bolts aren't pitted and rough. The carriers are much smoother inside and out. Proper extractor springs are used. Staking is adequate on both with colt being more aggressive. Machine marks on the surface wear points of the colt are non existing. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 4:52:14 AM EDT
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My JP LOMAS bolt carrier is polished black with no machine marks anywhere.
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Posted: 2/3/2015 3:11:12 PM EDT
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What is your opinion on the Spikes NiB BCG vs. Spikes Lightweight NiB BCG???
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Posted: 2/3/2015 3:16:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is your opinion on the Spikes NiB BCG vs. Spikes Lightweight NiB BCG??? If your doing a 3 gun rifle with an adjustable gas system then it makes more sense, but then I would step up to something with better weight reduction like the Boomfab Titanium. |
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Posted: 2/4/2015 1:03:41 PM EDT
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An overlooked quality supplier of BCG's is Toolcraft. They have .mil contracts for replacement parts and are available at decent prices. I would not pay extra for a BCM over a Toolcraft. +1 I currently own these BCGs: a) 2x LMT - circa mid-2000's vintage. b) BCM - purchased when they cost less than the current $169. c) Toolcraft 1B1B6 C158 - I recently picked up one of these as a spare and am impressed, especially considering the price point. I noticed they are now out of stock. d) Bushmaster - SA carrier purchased at discount prices. I also have several FN, CMT and PSA bolts and carriers, and used to own Colt and DPMS BCG's. In the current market, $80-100 is the sweet spot for a quality BCG. Anything more than that you are paying for brand snobbery, and I don't mean that in a bad way. My suspicion is that there are only a very small number of OEM manufacturers cranking out bolts and carriers, so all these branded products out there have to justify their premium, typically based on some kind of next-level QC. Whether that is worth it or not can only be answered by the guy shelling out his hard-earned pennies for one. |
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