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Shot my 18" rifle gas Faxon today. 50m, 1x BSA red dot, m855 bulk https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/148771_1113362192013605_7707045187593519315_n.jpg?oh=343039ad2abc1cfb65bc16d1967924c9&oe=5631DB4F Yeah, I think it shoots better than me. Time for a better optic and trigger. View Quote And better ammo |
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plans for 12.5" 7.62x39 barrels? id settle for a 16" carbine gas 7.62x39 barrel in stainless. I inquired a while back but you guys got real busy. also interested in a pencil profile 16" or 14.5" 5.56 barrel that has a long enough gas block journal for pinning an FSB. I bought a daniel defense .625 FSB a while back and its sitting....
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plans for 12.5" 7.62x39 barrels? id settle for a 16" carbine gas 7.62x39 barrel in stainless. I inquired a while back but you guys got real busy. also interested in a pencil profile 16" or 14.5" 5.56 barrel that has a long enough gas block journal for pinning an FSB. I bought a daniel defense .625 FSB a while back and its sitting.... View Quote -Yes, but not in the near future. Too many popular SKUs right now and we spending the time to get caught up prior to new offerings. -You will rather like the 7.62x39 FLAME fluted barrel. It should be live in the next week or two. -The GUNNER profile barrels will be transitioned over time to a longer gas journal. Current offerings are 1.1". No ETA, but as the old barrels sell through, we will make the next batch to the new spec. Pencil barrels will stay a 1.1" journal as we do not want to add any weight to them. |
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Made it to the range this weekend. Temps were right around 89 degrees and by the time I got scope tuned in with M80 ball ammo, I was too hot and tired to put together any really decent groups with match ammo. On top of that, I was tuning the gas on the gas block as well. Long story longer...too many distractions to really provide an accurate report as to this rifle's full capability. This is my first .308 AR build, so there's the whole acclimatization to shooting a heavier caliber rifle as well. Rough guess is my best was right around 1.5 - 2 MOA @ 100yds but it was definitely the Indian, not the arrow. I'd have two or three touching and then start horizontally stringing. Faxon 18" .308 - Medium-Taper, Mid-Length, 4150 QPQ Precision Armament M-11 Heavy Duty Muzzle Brake SLR Rifleworks Sentry 7 Adjustable Gas Block Aero M5E1 Upper Aero M5 Complete Lower Geissele SSA-E Trigger AIM Surplus Black Nitride .308 BCG AXTS Raptor 7.62 Charging Handle Magpul ACS-L Stock Millett TRS-1 4x16 Scope Burris PEPR QD Mount http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy90/whoisRepairmanJack/Arfcom/IMG_1114_Edit_zpswgficwmz.jpg http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy90/whoisRepairmanJack/Arfcom/IMG_1116_Edit_zpsrzb971rb.jpg View Quote Now THAT is a good looking rifle. Thanks for sharing and let us know how it runs when you are not hot and tired! |
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-Yes, but not in the near future. Too many popular SKUs right now and we spending the time to get caught up prior to new offerings. -You will rather like the 7.62x39 FLAME fluted barrel. It should be live in the next week or two. -The GUNNER profile barrels will be transitioned over time to a longer gas journal. Current offerings are 1.1". No ETA, but as the old barrels sell through, we will make the next batch to the new spec. Pencil barrels will stay a 1.1" journal as we do not want to add any weight to them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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plans for 12.5" 7.62x39 barrels? id settle for a 16" carbine gas 7.62x39 barrel in stainless. I inquired a while back but you guys got real busy. also interested in a pencil profile 16" or 14.5" 5.56 barrel that has a long enough gas block journal for pinning an FSB. I bought a daniel defense .625 FSB a while back and its sitting.... -Yes, but not in the near future. Too many popular SKUs right now and we spending the time to get caught up prior to new offerings. -You will rather like the 7.62x39 FLAME fluted barrel. It should be live in the next week or two. -The GUNNER profile barrels will be transitioned over time to a longer gas journal. Current offerings are 1.1". No ETA, but as the old barrels sell through, we will make the next batch to the new spec. Pencil barrels will stay a 1.1" journal as we do not want to add any weight to them. ill try to hold out for the 12.5" 7.62s a little longer, trying to get a barrel to run suppressed on my SBR. got a 10" barrel now with a tucked brake with a less favorable twist rate. want to keep my 11" handguard but have the barrel stick out long enough for my specwar brake. |
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ill try to hold out for the 12.5" 7.62s a little longer, trying to get a barrel to run suppressed on my SBR. got a 10" barrel now with a tucked brake with a less favorable twist rate. want to keep my 11" handguard but have the barrel stick out long enough for my specwar brake. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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plans for 12.5" 7.62x39 barrels? id settle for a 16" carbine gas 7.62x39 barrel in stainless. I inquired a while back but you guys got real busy. also interested in a pencil profile 16" or 14.5" 5.56 barrel that has a long enough gas block journal for pinning an FSB. I bought a daniel defense .625 FSB a while back and its sitting.... -Yes, but not in the near future. Too many popular SKUs right now and we spending the time to get caught up prior to new offerings. -You will rather like the 7.62x39 FLAME fluted barrel. It should be live in the next week or two. -The GUNNER profile barrels will be transitioned over time to a longer gas journal. Current offerings are 1.1". No ETA, but as the old barrels sell through, we will make the next batch to the new spec. Pencil barrels will stay a 1.1" journal as we do not want to add any weight to them. ill try to hold out for the 12.5" 7.62s a little longer, trying to get a barrel to run suppressed on my SBR. got a 10" barrel now with a tucked brake with a less favorable twist rate. want to keep my 11" handguard but have the barrel stick out long enough for my specwar brake. We do not have plans for that length for some time. Sorry! |
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ill try to hold out for the 12.5" 7.62s a little longer, trying to get a barrel to run suppressed on my SBR. got a 10" barrel now with a tucked brake with a less favorable twist rate. want to keep my 11" handguard but have the barrel stick out long enough for my specwar brake. reply to above (sorry it didn't quote right)^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
For what it's worth, we have 3 of the 10.5" 7.62x39 in my circle of friends and love them. Really nice accurate barrels. We have 5 of the 5.56 10.5's, 1 16" fluted heavy, and 1 16" pencil. |
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Already did a couple days ago. They will be arriving shortly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Nathan - Any update on when the Flame Fluted barrels will be shipping to vendors? Already did a couple days ago. They will be arriving shortly. Awesome. Thank you Nathan. Now I can start my second build. I just swapped in my 16" Pencil yesterday on my first build. I will shoot that barrel next week. |
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Faxon any recommendations for 7.62x39 bolt or bcg for once I get ahold of one of your 7.62x39 flame barrels??
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Nathan, any Fourth of July sales we can look forward to (crossing fingers) ??
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Faxon any recommendations for 7.62x39 bolt or bcg for once I get ahold of one of your 7.62x39 flame barrels?? View Quote Just make sure you pick one up from a good brand (as the lugs are smaller you will want to ensure the provinence of the bolt is good) using standard AR-15 bolt face depth. AIM's works and so does MGI's. Other brands have as well, but cant remember them off the top of my head. |
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Nathan, any Fourth of July sales we can look forward to (crossing fingers) ?? Hope you signed up for our newsletter which goes out today. Just did. Thanks for the heads up! |
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Nathan, any Fourth of July sales we can look forward to (crossing fingers) ?? Hope you signed up for our newsletter which goes out today. Just did. Thanks for the heads up! Same here |
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Nathan, any Fourth of July sales we can look forward to (crossing fingers) ?? Hope you signed up for our newsletter which goes out today. Just did. Thanks for the heads up! Same here Just went out. 5% off the entire website through Monday! |
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After silver solder welding my 14.5 onto my gun and drilling out my MicroMoa gas plates to the suppressed and unsuppresed setting, I am afraid to report that my chamber has a burr in it and is splitting cases.. I have only taken ~10 shots with it to get my settings. I don't plan on shooting it more any time soon. Seems unsafe as hell. This sucks. My muzzle device is welded My gas port plates are drilled (to a burr'd barrel, most likely drilled too big, they were higher than others report) I torqed my Govnah gas block on pretty tight with rocksett I had a range trip tomorrow (bday the 4th) http://i.imgur.com/HOakhfw.jpg http://i.imgur.com/YHlvPgp.jpg It is at the bottom right. About 5 o clock. Very clear in person. This was the best pic I could get.. View Quote I would think a burr that far back would have an effect on the entire case. Split necks seems like something else....and the fact it looks like wolf ammo, not that surprising. What happens when you try decent brass ammo? Hint. |
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I would think a burr that far back would have an effect on the entire case. Split necks seems like something else....and the fact it looks like wolf ammo, not that surprising. What happens when you try decent brass ammo? Hint. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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After silver solder welding my 14.5 onto my gun and drilling out my MicroMoa gas plates to the suppressed and unsuppresed setting, I am afraid to report that my chamber has a burr in it and is splitting cases.. I have only taken ~10 shots with it to get my settings. I don't plan on shooting it more any time soon. Seems unsafe as hell. This sucks. My muzzle device is welded My gas port plates are drilled (to a burr'd barrel, most likely drilled too big, they were higher than others report) I torqed my Govnah gas block on pretty tight with rocksett I had a range trip tomorrow (bday the 4th) http://i.imgur.com/HOakhfw.jpg http://i.imgur.com/YHlvPgp.jpg It is at the bottom right. About 5 o clock. Very clear in person. This was the best pic I could get.. I would think a burr that far back would have an effect on the entire case. Split necks seems like something else....and the fact it looks like wolf ammo, not that surprising. What happens when you try decent brass ammo? Hint. I guess I will try brass. But I can clearly see a burr in the chamber and my casings are getting scratched in the same spot. Either way, I have never had this problem. |
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Sorry i didn't mean to imply there isn't a burr; one is clearly visible. But those are pretty easy to deal with. Bore mop, little jb bore bright paste....job done.
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Sorry i didn't mean to imply there isn't a burr; one is clearly visible. But those are pretty easy to deal with. Bore mop, little jb bore bright paste....job done. View Quote While you shouldn't have to polish the chamber on a new barrel from a quality manufacture, given that you already made mods to make it nfa compliant that can't be re dressed without damage, it sounds like it's time to ream the chamber to verify that it's in spec and then polish. You could just polish if it head spaces without issue. Wes |
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While you shouldn't have to polish the chamber on a new barrel from a quality manufacture, given that you already made mods to make it nfa compliant that can't be re dressed without damage, it sounds like it's time to ream the chamber to verify that it's in spec and then polish. You could just polish if it head spaces without issue. Wes View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sorry i didn't mean to imply there isn't a burr; one is clearly visible. But those are pretty easy to deal with. Bore mop, little jb bore bright paste....job done. While you shouldn't have to polish the chamber on a new barrel from a quality manufacture, given that you already made mods to make it nfa compliant that can't be re dressed without damage, it sounds like it's time to ream the chamber to verify that it's in spec and then polish. You could just polish if it head spaces without issue. Wes Looking at the cases, it is highly unlikely there is a burr in the chamber. With the consistent scratch getting bigger, it is likely the case dragging on the extension during the ejection phase of cycle. (Technical note- Chamber reamers are rotated at high RPM during chambering, creating a perfectly concentric chamber, as the largest cutter always sets the diameter. For a burr to appear like that, a chamber reamer has to mechanically fail. We have not had any do so, ever, and monitor them very closely). We'd recommend taking some spend casings, marking it, putting in the chamber, and ejecting manually. If the marks line up with the case scratches, you have a fantastically powerful ejector spring. This is very common with steel-cased ammunition, which is softer and shows these marks much more so than brass. |
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These are great barrels. I have a 16" Gov't/Socom, 5.56 and its pretty damn accurate. the fit and finish is great.
If you are on the fence about buying one don't hesitate. You'd be hard pressed to find a better barrel for the price. |
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Looking at the cases, it is highly unlikely there is a burr in the chamber. With the consistent scratch getting bigger, it is likely the case dragging on the extension during the ejection phase of cycle. (Technical note- Chamber reamers are rotated at high RPM during chambering, creating a perfectly concentric chamber, as the largest cutter always sets the diameter. For a burr to appear like that, a chamber reamer has to mechanically fail. We have not had any do so, ever, and monitor them very closely). We'd recommend taking some spend casings, marking it, putting in the chamber, and ejecting manually. If the marks line up with the case scratches, you have a fantastically powerful ejector spring. This is very common with steel-cased ammunition, which is softer and shows these marks much more so than brass. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sorry i didn't mean to imply there isn't a burr; one is clearly visible. But those are pretty easy to deal with. Bore mop, little jb bore bright paste....job done. While you shouldn't have to polish the chamber on a new barrel from a quality manufacture, given that you already made mods to make it nfa compliant that can't be re dressed without damage, it sounds like it's time to ream the chamber to verify that it's in spec and then polish. You could just polish if it head spaces without issue. Wes Looking at the cases, it is highly unlikely there is a burr in the chamber. With the consistent scratch getting bigger, it is likely the case dragging on the extension during the ejection phase of cycle. (Technical note- Chamber reamers are rotated at high RPM during chambering, creating a perfectly concentric chamber, as the largest cutter always sets the diameter. For a burr to appear like that, a chamber reamer has to mechanically fail. We have not had any do so, ever, and monitor them very closely). We'd recommend taking some spend casings, marking it, putting in the chamber, and ejecting manually. If the marks line up with the case scratches, you have a fantastically powerful ejector spring. This is very common with steel-cased ammunition, which is softer and shows these marks much more so than brass. Your explanation makes sense, but I've seen some odd crap in the last year, including one rifle from SIG that exhibited a similar appearing scar on the cases along with feeding issues. First step from Sig repair shop was to drop in a chamber gauge in, then chamber reamer...took care of the scars on the case necks. They speculated that a minor burr was left at the edge of the chamber if the tooling/stock moved ever so slightly during manufacture as the reamer was removed from the barrel chamber. Actual feeding issue ended up being an a slightly undersized gas port leading to short stroking. Not sure how your manufacturing process works compared to Sig's but I have no doubt the great folks at Foxon will get this squared away for "ArmedFerret" if anything is needed. Wes |
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Your explanation makes sense, but I've seen some odd crap in the last year, including one rifle from SIG that exhibited a similar appearing scar on the cases along with feeding issues. First step from Sig repair shop was to drop in a chamber gauge in, then chamber reamer...took care of the scars on the case necks. They speculated that a minor burr was left at the edge of the chamber if the tooling/stock moved ever so slightly during manufacture as the reamer was removed from the barrel chamber. Actual feeding issue ended up being an a slightly undersized gas port leading to short stroking. Not sure how your manufacturing process works compared to Sig's but I have no doubt the great folks at Foxon will get this squared away for "joshv06" if anything is needed. Wes View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sorry i didn't mean to imply there isn't a burr; one is clearly visible. But those are pretty easy to deal with. Bore mop, little jb bore bright paste....job done. While you shouldn't have to polish the chamber on a new barrel from a quality manufacture, given that you already made mods to make it nfa compliant that can't be re dressed without damage, it sounds like it's time to ream the chamber to verify that it's in spec and then polish. You could just polish if it head spaces without issue. Wes Looking at the cases, it is highly unlikely there is a burr in the chamber. With the consistent scratch getting bigger, it is likely the case dragging on the extension during the ejection phase of cycle. (Technical note- Chamber reamers are rotated at high RPM during chambering, creating a perfectly concentric chamber, as the largest cutter always sets the diameter. For a burr to appear like that, a chamber reamer has to mechanically fail. We have not had any do so, ever, and monitor them very closely). We'd recommend taking some spend casings, marking it, putting in the chamber, and ejecting manually. If the marks line up with the case scratches, you have a fantastically powerful ejector spring. This is very common with steel-cased ammunition, which is softer and shows these marks much more so than brass. Your explanation makes sense, but I've seen some odd crap in the last year, including one rifle from SIG that exhibited a similar appearing scar on the cases along with feeding issues. First step from Sig repair shop was to drop in a chamber gauge in, then chamber reamer...took care of the scars on the case necks. They speculated that a minor burr was left at the edge of the chamber if the tooling/stock moved ever so slightly during manufacture as the reamer was removed from the barrel chamber. Actual feeding issue ended up being an a slightly undersized gas port leading to short stroking. Not sure how your manufacturing process works compared to Sig's but I have no doubt the great folks at Foxon will get this squared away for "joshv06" if anything is needed. Wes Fixed it for ya. |
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Thanks...got lost in the page change.
Either user will get excellent customer support from Foxon. Their detailed test for an excessive ejector spring pressure was a great example. Wes |
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Thanks...got lost in the page change. Either user will get excellent customer support from Foxon. Their detailed test for an excessive ejector spring pressure was a great example. Wes View Quote It may not be "excessive" per-se, just strong enough to make steel cased rotate into the extension during ejection. Again, this is common. The key is the barrel feeds and ejects normally. If so, this is good for steel cased (which you can't reload anyways). |
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If so, this is good for steel cased (which you can't reload anyways). View Quote LOL...You forgot you are at AR15.com...land of maximizing every dollar and making things work when others say it can't be done: http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=42&t=419342 Lots more with google. Wes |
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Anyone have one of the 10.5" 300 BO barrels? The site lists .075 for a gas port size which seems undergassed for this length. I am having cycling issues I can't figure out.
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http://i.imgur.com/Ii5EfRy.jpg http://i.imgur.com/HOakhfw.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/HOakhfw.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/HOakhfw.jpg Weird how the painted casing has 2 perfectly similar lines (from inside of the barrel extension. But the one fired has one tear. View Quote Common with the angle it is ejected at. If you have any further troubleshooting, please send us a PM/e-mail. We enjoy helping customers, but will try to keep this thread for questions on products, etc. |
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Agreed. I will take some more shots with it and check each casing.
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Question, I have 2 of your 18" 308 barrels bought both from recoil gun works, one is the heavy profile silver one, the other is an all black medium profile barrel. I shoot 168 grain projectiles out of them. The heavy silver barrel is much more accurate than the medium one I am using now. Only reason I switched them out was for the weight difference. one is 416 and the other is 4150, is this the reason for the accuracy issue I'm having? Not trying to bitch about it but this new barrel is all over the board at 100 while my other shoots sub moa, think I'm going to switch back to my old one due to the accuracy issue. I'm using hand loads, lapua brass, cci primers and 42.3 grains of imr 4064 with 168 smk's, here's the link to the two 18" ones I'm using, I'm not using the 18" fluted, I wanted the 20" medium but they were out of stock when I ordered my last one
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The barrel doesn't shoot a given individual handload recipe well, and you haven't tried other recipes?
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Question, I have 2 of your 18" 308 barrels bought both from recoil gun works, one is the heavy profile silver one, the other is an all black medium profile barrel. I shoot 168 grain projectiles out of them. The heavy silver barrel is much more accurate than the medium one I am using now. Only reason I switched them out was for the weight difference. one is 416 and the other is 4150, is this the reason for the accuracy issue I'm having? Not trying to bitch about it but this new barrel is all over the board at 100 while my other shoots sub moa, think I'm going to switch back to my old one due to the accuracy issue. I'm using hand loads, lapua brass, cci primers and 42.3 grains of imr 4064 with 168 smk's, here's the link to the two 18" ones I'm using, I'm not using the 18" fluted, I wanted the 20" medium but they were out of stock when I ordered my last one http://www.recoilgunworks.com/barrels-c-107_138.html View Quote A pleasure to hear from you and very sorry to hear of any issues. We are here to make sure you are squared away. Please send an e-mail to our customer support team and we can assist with troubleshooting. Despite the other poster's sarcasm, his intention is correct in that barrels will typically have a preference based on a multitude of factors. When you e-mail us, please let us know what loadings, outside your primary one, have been tested in the barrel. |
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I've shot south African, Winchester softpoints and Port out of it as well with the same results but didn't count those in due to them being mass produced and nato ammo. Again im not bitching about it, but my groups are about 3" at 100 with all mentioned above, as well as my handloads in which everything is measured to the t. I know 3" at 100 is very acceptable, but my question was in comparison to the two barrels with the different steel structure, hell if I had a 2 moa aimpoint on the rifle and 3" groups were what I was running I wouldn't have even asked the question at all. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The barrel doesn't shoot a given individual handload recipe well, and you haven't tried other recipes? Hint there. I've shot south African, Winchester softpoints and Port out of it as well with the same results but didn't count those in due to them being mass produced and nato ammo. Again im not bitching about it, but my groups are about 3" at 100 with all mentioned above, as well as my handloads in which everything is measured to the t. I know 3" at 100 is very acceptable, but my question was in comparison to the two barrels with the different steel structure, hell if I had a 2 moa aimpoint on the rifle and 3" groups were what I was running I wouldn't have even asked the question at all. Sir, Per our earlier reply, please send an e-mail and we will assist with troubleshooting. [email protected] When you e-mail, any additional information you can supply on what you have done with it will be valuable in troubleshooting. Thanks! |
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Anyone have one of the 10.5" 300 BO barrels? The site lists .075 for a gas port size which seems undergassed for this length. I am having cycling issues I can't figure out. Glad to hear you are good to go and it was a spring/buffer issue! Still having the issue, no change after the buffer/spring swap out. |
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Anyone have one of the 10.5" 300 BO barrels? The site lists .075 for a gas port size which seems undergassed for this length. I am having cycling issues I can't figure out. Glad to hear you are good to go and it was a spring/buffer issue! Still having the issue, no change after the buffer/spring swap out. Oops. Confused with another customer. Please e-mail us and we will be happy to assist. |
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I chrono'd my Faxon 14.5" today (with SilencerCo Saker 762).
3000 FPS with Wolf 2991 3067 3095 3001 2996 I took off the 2 highs and averaged out the once that were close to each other. 91 degrees in Houston Texas. Not bad! I was predicting ~2875fps. My 16" middy from Voodoo was getting ~2960fps on average, but then again, I had 1500 shots through that and it was 416R Melonited. |
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