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Posted: 7/26/2014 7:41:59 PM EDT
How do you like them? Any fit issue with key mod accessories? I have seen posted a few times that the finish is very fragile. Any gasblock fitting issues?
Whatever you have to say about them, I would like to hear it. Thanks |
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No issues with Keymod accessories.
http://www.ocabj.net/16-mid-length-ar-15-keymod-build-report/ As far as fragile finish, it doesn't appear to be any more or less fragile than any other handguard. I haven't lost finish on points where the Keymod accessories were mounted and removed repeatedly. I've nicked a few points on the handguard because I bang it around when I use it, but it's just like any other handguard I have as far as finish is concerned. |
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I like mine but even after heating it it was a bitch to get on. I have a YHM clamp LPGB and it fits but is super tight and I can't fit rail covers because it is that tight. ( damn thing gets uber hot under sustained fire )
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Mine was chipped to all hell when i unwrapped it from the plastic. Chipped again after i dropped it on a wooden floor. But what do i know, BCM likes to use fancy words like "aerospace coatings". Which actually means jack shit these days.
-I ended up blasting and cerakoting it. Have fucked with it here and there, hasnt chipped yet. Ill put money cerakote is better than BCM's bullshit "Oh my god so kewl plasma coating!" -It is very light, and seems sturdy, though i have yet to run it over with an SUV. I guess im not commando enough for that. -Fits. Works. -HATE BCM's keymod panels, i prefer Noveske -Very slim, like you have no idea. It is retarded slim (a plus for me) |
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Mine was chipped to all hell when i unwrapped it from the plastic. Chipped again after i dropped it on a wooden floor. But what do i know, BCM likes to use fancy words like "aerospace coatings". Which actually means jack shit these days. -I ended up blasting and cerakoting it. Have fucked with it here and there, hasnt chipped yet. Ill put money cerakote is better than BCM's bullshit "Oh my god so kewl plasma coating!" -It is very light, and seems sturdy, though i have yet to run it over with an SUV. I guess im not commando enough for that. -Fits. Works. -HATE BCM's keymod panels, i prefer Noveske -Very slim, like you have no idea. It is retarded slim (a plus for me) View Quote Was the material chipped or just the finish? What do you not like about BCM's panels? |
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I like mine but even after heating it it was a bitch to get on. I have a YHM clamp LPGB and it fits but is super tight and I can't fit rail covers because it is that tight. ( damn thing gets uber hot under sustained fire ) View Quote I used fingertips to coat a thin film of motor oil around the barrel nut surface that contacts the handguard and heated the barrel nut end of the handguard a slightly. Then I just used a little but of mallet action with a nylon hammer to get it on. Definitely tight (a lot tighter that my Geissele SMR MK3), but not difficult. |
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http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l231/mcfero1/IMG_5478.jpg
i rattle canned mine, so i don't really know the regular coating strength. but spray paint holds up pretty well, then repaint as needed. |
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Quoted: The finish itself was chipped. Its not made out of wood, the material itself isn't going to chip. The panels comment is entirely personal opinion. Why i dislike BCM panels vs Noveske: Theyre rounded off instead of having a more corner like grip if that makes sense. Also, dont have handstops. Example of noveske panels: http://37.media.tumblr.com/688878d12fbef0d722ac464f1246d1ff/tumblr_mw0o9rvbrw1qjtttio1_1280.jpg Example of BCM panels: http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh515/EAG_TACTICAL/Des%20Mines%20COC%20Sept13/DSC_9948_zpse24ac445.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Mine was chipped to all hell when i unwrapped it from the plastic. Chipped again after i dropped it on a wooden floor. But what do i know, BCM likes to use fancy words like "aerospace coatings". Which actually means jack shit these days. -I ended up blasting and cerakoting it. Have fucked with it here and there, hasnt chipped yet. Ill put money cerakote is better than BCM's bullshit "Oh my god so kewl plasma coating!" -It is very light, and seems sturdy, though i have yet to run it over with an SUV. I guess im not commando enough for that. -Fits. Works. -HATE BCM's keymod panels, i prefer Noveske -Very slim, like you have no idea. It is retarded slim (a plus for me) Was the material chipped or just the finish? What do you not like about BCM's panels? The finish itself was chipped. Its not made out of wood, the material itself isn't going to chip. The panels comment is entirely personal opinion. Why i dislike BCM panels vs Noveske: Theyre rounded off instead of having a more corner like grip if that makes sense. Also, dont have handstops. Example of noveske panels: http://37.media.tumblr.com/688878d12fbef0d722ac464f1246d1ff/tumblr_mw0o9rvbrw1qjtttio1_1280.jpg Example of BCM panels: http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh515/EAG_TACTICAL/Des%20Mines%20COC%20Sept13/DSC_9948_zpse24ac445.jpg I believe they are not even out yet, and the ones in that picture are getting re worked.
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So there is a known issue with the finishing on the KMR and there isn't anything being done about it?
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I would pick up a 15" if they ever come back in stock. The finish issue is not a concern for me, I'll just rattle can it.
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It's the best handguard i've ever used regardless of price. There may be something better but i haven't used it if there is, and i've used many high end handguards.
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I have a 10" KMR on my 11.5" BCM BFH pistol. I can't comment on the finish as it's cerakoted burnt bronze, but I will say I love the rail. Very light weight and a good feel to it!
I will admit, when I first got it, I was afraid I was going to break the damn thing. It really felt like a cheap plastic toy. It's that light! |
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View Quote What kind of stock is that? |
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So there is a known issue with the finishing on the KMR and there isn't anything being done about it? View Quote I'm no expert, but I'm guessing it has something to do with it being made out of magnesium alloy? Obviously BCM knows how to anodize and parkerize aluminum and steel as well as anyone else, but maybe magnesium alloy doesn't finish as easily? |
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You cannot beat the light wt and lock up of the KMR.
The final top finish....well yeah...certainly less than desirable but given the other features for my money it's the best out there. Personally I am selling all my other handguards and going with KMRs on all my AR's...I like them that much. Wait till somebody comes out with a Titanium barrel nut for this thing.....and Ti hardware to go with it....the glitchy final finish will be a non issue...it seems to cerakote well. |
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Quoted: You cannot beat the light wt and lock up of the KMR. The final top finish....well yeah...certainly less than desirable but given the other features for my money it's the best out there. Personally I am selling all my other handguards and going with KMRs on all my AR's...I like them that much. Wait till somebody comes out with a Titanium barrel nut for this thing.....and Ti hardware to go with it....the glitchy final finish will be a non issue...it seems to cerakote well. View Quote Thats saying a lot coming from you since you have owned so many great rails. |
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Quoted: What kind of stock is that? Magpul UBR
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Quoted: By no means am i bashing the product as i own it and really like the barrel to rail system. Damn strong, locks up like a catholic school girl in confession. But, yes, the coating is easily chipped. When putting my rail on, i used a wooden hammer with some light tapping, maybe medium tapping. The finish chipped off. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rEh_2ONGaR4/U1ahXbdSQLI/AAAAAAAACGc/vRV4MrL2r6M/s512/20140422_130259.jpg For me, it is not an issue as i am not framing it and putting it on my wall as art. Some Casey Super Black Flat Black paint pen and it shoots as good as when it was chipped. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JL-G9iRsrQo/U7w7Tukp0YI/AAAAAAAACRo/XdROjKb-Veg/s720/BCMNOVBUSHY.jpg sam View Quote |
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Selling all hand guards for KMR. Thats saying a lot coming from you since you have owned so many great rails. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You cannot beat the light wt and lock up of the KMR. The final top finish....well yeah...certainly less than desirable but given the other features for my money it's the best out there. Personally I am selling all my other handguards and going with KMRs on all my AR's...I like them that much. Wait till somebody comes out with a Titanium barrel nut for this thing.....and Ti hardware to go with it....the glitchy final finish will be a non issue...it seems to cerakote well. Thats saying a lot coming from you since you have owned so many great rails. I luv 'em |
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Even more out there, why use the pig on such a long barrel?
Its purely for the heck of it. |
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What kind of stock is that? Magpul UBR Joe |
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My BCM 14.5" upper came in Friday. It makes me giddy when I look at it. The KMR is insane light and much more sturdy than I thought it would be. Would recommend
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Kmr is the bees knees. Beyond lightweight and locks up no less solid than my dd lite rail it replaced. Yes the finish is susceptible to chipping but the real protective finish is ultra gnarley durable and either clear or silver ( I forget). The black finish is purely aesthetic and even is you chipped it all off the rail would still be completely protected. I do think they should and will come up with a more durable finish but it's no where near enough of a negative to deter me from what I think is the single best handguard on the market. If only v7 could come up with black finished Ti hardware and barrel nuts for the kmr then it would be unstoppable.
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Absolutely love mine. I've heard several accounts of people having issues with the durability of the finish, but according to BCM, it doesn't affect the integrity, performance, durability, etc. of the KMR. No problems with fitment with KeyMod accessories (I have a BCM vertical grip and HSP Offset mounted). Very rigid and lightweight system.
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My KMR rolled off the bench while I was working on taking off the old barrel nut, it received two paint chips, and then it got chipped again when I had to remove the rail to work on the gas block. The finish is the only thing that does not impress me about this rail.
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