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InfiniteGrim
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Posted: 10/11/2010 9:56:58 AM
Originally Posted By gajeep94yj:
thanks for the input so far.

so my next question is, is it worth the $225 for the spike's NiB or just get the young's for $155?

is there any differences in the coatings to justify another $70?


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Posted: 10/11/2010 4:29:10 PM
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I have three Young Man. Semi BCGs, his semi versions have more metal in the tail section than most others do. Two of them are black phos in Carb.s and one is a N/M chrome in my paper punching Hbar. You can't go wrong with either chromed or not with Young BCGs, they are top shelf chromed or not. The chromed BCGs are easier to clean for sure, I didn't use them in my carbs because I like the all black tac look and dont mind a little more cleaning
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Posted: 10/11/2010 4:40:58 PM
I have a NP3 treated BCG from Robar and its the cat's meow. Carbon literally rubs off with a paper towel and its slick to the touch.
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Posted: 10/13/2010 10:37:38 AM
I have 2 of the NiB coated ones... one stock Fail-Zero one and one LMT that was sent off for the coating.

both are amazing. and ill never use anything else.

the EXO coating has been tested by the DoD and proven superior, and to me an extra 70-100 is COMPLETELY worth it.

http://www.failzero.com/

check out the test reports.
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Posted: 10/20/2010 9:21:34 PM
well I bought a Spike's NiB BCG. we shall see how it goes!
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Posted: 10/20/2010 10:02:56 PM
I checked the springer site i couldnt how much it costs to do a BCG
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Posted: 10/20/2010 11:19:50 PM
Originally Posted By Ar-15TechGuy:
Originally Posted By TN_Thunder:
Has anyone ever thought about having their BCG cryo treated? Seems like it would be a good candidate for it.


It has been found and proved that cryogenic treatment improves wear resistance of many alloy steels to a great extent.


I would LOVE to have a bolt and cam pin done. I would imagine that carbon would not stick as bad to the tail of the bolt if it was treated. NONE of my Cryo barrels foul as bad as the non treated barrels do given the same number of rounds through each...


I don't see how changing the microsctructure of a small percent of the metal (retained austenite) would affect the adherence of carbon.
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Posted: 10/24/2010 6:26:28 AM
Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
For now on I will be buying chrome.


Me and my brother bought Young's M16 chrome BCGs for $155 shipped. Mine is in my SPR and his is in his new spike's 16" carbine.

Mine has run 100% with reloads and his has been 100% with steel ammo.

Plus its rediculously easy to clean.

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3134/p1100530.jpg

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9832/p1100534f.jpg

After 60 seconds and only a napkin....................


http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/2649/p1100536.jpg



This is the benefit of some of the coating available !! I use Youngs hard chrome BCGs and they are easy as hell to clean and dont require much oil if any. That being said the nickle boron coated parts clean even easier and require virtually no lubrication !! The friction of the hard chrome or NiB compared to parkerizing is night and day. If you want a BCG that is easier to clean has much less friction and doesnt require much lube then go with HC or NiB, if this doesnt really matter to you go with mil spec !
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Posted: 10/24/2010 6:29:37 AM
Originally Posted By gajeep94yj:
well I bought a Spike's NiB BCG. we shall see how it goes!



Sorry I made my previous post before I read the second page LOL...

Your really going to like that NiB coated BCG !! They look cool too !!
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Posted: 10/25/2010 10:29:02 PM
I could not find the prices either. I emailed Springer and they sent me a AR price list. $65 for a BCG. I have a Bravo Co. BCG with ion bond and 2 others without. I am in the process of sending them 2 AR-15 BCG's, 1 AR-10 BCG and a stainless barrel. I have not tried any other finishes but the ion bond is GTG IMHO. Had a buddy Krylon his pistol that had ion bond. He didn't like the way the do it yourself paint job turned out and stripped the Krylon off with a SS brush in his cordless drill. The ion bond on the slide was unharmed, not a scratch.
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