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suprmatch
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Posted: 11/13/2007 12:35:00 PM
I've read and heard that essential arms has made at one time or another lower recievers for a good portion of the companies listed on this post. Any thoughts on essential arms?
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Posted: 11/17/2007 4:35:45 PM
Anyone know who makes the Anvil Arms lower? Free Laser custom logo sounds [attractive.
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Posted: 11/17/2007 4:39:16 PM
Anyone know who makes the Anvil Arms lower? Free Laser custom logo sounds [attractive.
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Posted: 11/30/2007 5:23:05 AM
How about Superior Arms lowers? How do they stack up?

Kiser is selling 10 lowers for $800.

Also, a question: The manufacturer of a lower is required to engrave their info. How can one company make the lowers for another?
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Posted: 11/30/2007 12:02:42 PM
Yes, I would really like to see how the Superior Arms quality compared to others ... please.... Thank you
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Posted: 12/1/2007 11:15:37 PM
OK the CMT-made lowers don't take an RDIAS, but the LAR-made ones do. But what about the LMT-made lowers?
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Posted: 12/8/2007 1:48:56 PM

Originally Posted By suprmatch:
I've read and heard that essential arms has made at one time or another lower recievers for a good portion of the companies listed on this post. Any thoughts on essential arms?


I don't know if Essential Arms has made any lowers for any other company recently. Prior to the 1994 AWB they used to make cast receivers (J-15) and then they sold that tooling to DPMS and got out of the lower business until after the AWB expired in 2004. After the AWB they started making cast lowers again (J-15-2) but they have since stopped making cast lowers and are currently making forged lowers.(J-15-F). I have 6 of the J-15-F lowers and they seem to be of excellent quality, just as good as the Bushmaster lower I have. If I was going to buy any more lowers I'd probably go with Essential Arms again as they were good to deal with and I can't see any reason to pay more plus my dealer's FFL is already on file with them.
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Posted: 12/16/2007 1:48:59 PM

Originally Posted By GreenWolf70:
Anyone know who makes the Anvil Arms lower? Free Laser custom logo sounds [attractive.


I recently ask Jon from Anvil Arms this very question but he told me via email that Anvil Arms does not release this information. He further stated that, "Each manufacturer provides their own set of specs. The machine shop does not make them all the same."

I have heard good things about the Anvil Arms lowers and their engraving. Jon was very helpful in his email and that's the kind of customer service I like, so I will definately be sending them some of my business. Besides, how can you beat that deal on lowers with free laser engraving!!


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Posted: 12/18/2007 1:23:59 PM
This thread indicates that Lauer lowers are again made by LMT.

Lauer lowers.
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Posted: 1/3/2008 5:34:22 AM
I've been in Knights plant and watched their machining....they cut their own lowers.


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Posted: 1/5/2008 7:28:12 PM
Someone asked if DPMS makes their own lowers. I dont think that it was answered, since I am also wanting to know. Could someone tell me if they make their own or not.
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Posted: 1/12/2008 6:28:52 PM
HK lowers and uppers are made from Forgings.. Been on a tour of the factory in Germany, and seen the raw forgings... They are made by another, non firearm company.
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Posted: 1/12/2008 8:56:21 PM
awesome post! thanks for the info & photos.. great attention to detail.
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Posted: 1/17/2008 3:43:22 PM
Does KAC still make lowers? Can they be bought stripped? From where?
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Posted: 1/17/2008 3:51:22 PM
It looks like Armalite lower receivers need to be added to the list and Eagle Arms lower receivers will be a thing of the past.
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Posted: 1/28/2008 10:53:08 PM
says on first page dpms is under the lar section with a question mark.
gunsmoke told me face to face at the tamps gunshow in dec he is using lar
at the moment and was waiting on the mega lowers. bought 2 lar rec from him.
awsome deal.
too much brand whoring. who cares who makes it. pick the logo u like and build away.
i wasted 2 months once waiting to get a rock river because they were "the best"available.
and i can tell u that was the worst build I've ever had. i have used stinger, mega,bushy. rra
and now working on gunsmokes lar and except for the rra all went together and functioned flawlessly. turned out the rra had misaligned pivot pin holes. but those things happen to all manufacturers from time to time. but some will never realize that their lower is "generic"
and except for small subtleties the same as everybody else's regardless if you paid 25% more than the other guy because yours is big name brand.
not trying to po anybody just had to get that off my chest after some gun guru at the local show this weekend had to tell me how superior his bushy lower that he wanted 185$ for was to my new lar. hmm imagine how depressed i was to realize i paid less than that for 2 rec out the door in dec. i'll have to go see a therapist for sure.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 9:17:02 PM

Originally Posted By 0_Windage:
Xenophobe,

Great information, I have a question regarding the Lauer lowers. Any idea when Lauer stopped using LMT lowers and changed to Superior Arms?

Trying to determine if my Lauer is a LMT or Superior lower. It has a 4 significant digit serial #. I bought it since it was advertised as a LMT product, and the particular dealer still advertises it as such........I think.

My lower has the forward portion of the trigger area flashing removed but retains the flashing immediately behind the trigger itself. It also has safe and fire stamped on left & right sides of the receiver.

One peculiar thing, the floor depth below the rear take down pin hole is much shallower than my other lower, so much so that an Accuwedge will not fit correctly between the upper receiver pin boss and the lower receiver floor......??

Dunno, but for what it's worth my KAC (oops, LMT) lower won't fit an accuwedge either. Fortunately I was able to rectify the issue w/a new RRA upper. An extreeme case of "get a bigger hammer". Mix and match `til ya get a tight one

thank you for any information
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Posted: 2/3/2008 1:53:41 PM
Anvil Arms:

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Posted: 2/5/2008 5:33:28 AM
Does anyone know the best way of filling engravings on the receiver ("coloring them in")? I assume it is some kind of enamel, but given the porous finish on many receivers, just wondering if there is a 'tried and true' approach that works.

Thanks!


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Posted: 2/5/2008 7:14:30 AM

Originally Posted By 2tall:
Does anyone know the best way of filling engravings on the receiver ("coloring them in")? I assume it is some kind of enamel, but given the porous finish on many receivers, just wondering if there is a 'tried and true' approach that works.

Thanks!


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I used Automotive touch up paint on the above Superior Arms pics. Worked well, but you can't thin it with stanard oaint thinner. You can remove any over spill with a careful rub of brake fluid on the paint you want to remove & then blow off with air compressor.

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Posted: 2/5/2008 7:18:46 AM

Originally Posted By 2tall:
Does anyone know the best way of filling engravings on the receiver ("coloring them in")? I assume it is some kind of enamel, but given the porous finish on many receivers, just wondering if there is a 'tried and true' approach that works.

Thanks!
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Posted: 2/5/2008 7:30:20 AM
Thanks everybody - great pointers to get me started. Great community . . . . happy to be aboard!

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Posted: 2/5/2008 3:42:17 PM
The info on this post is great. Unless I missed it, I haven't seen any information on LWRC lowers? Who makes them? Good quality? I know they are not easy to get, but if I buy a LWRC upper, I'd like one of their lowers.

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Posted: 2/12/2008 6:06:25 PM
[Last Edit: 2/12/2008 6:08:14 PM by phoenix27]
This is a great resource but probably needs some updating. I just got off the phone with the CMMG (which stands for central missouri machine gun) folks earlier today to comment on my wonderful new lower that I purchased from AIM and asked them the obvious question, specifically, "So who really makes your lower, LAR?" To which Carson from the sales dept. replied, "Nope, we make 'em ourselves, machining them from Alcoa milspec aluminum blocks. We do send them out for anodization."

Someone probably needs to change that info in the comparison matrix. Carson also mentioned that Colt and FN also make their own lowers.

Interesting stuff.
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