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Posted: 6/24/2017 2:41:51 PM EDT

The XD is from Croatia

their 1911 casting and forgings are from Brazil

I really doubt that they started making AR parts themselves, anyone know who is making them?

Posted: 6/24/2017 4:49:44 PM EDT

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PSA

Posted: 6/24/2017 5:02:25 PM EDT

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Upper and lower are probably from any if the popular forges.

Posted: 6/24/2017 5:17:20 PM EDT

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Does it really matter, it is just another .mil spec AR15, just like hundreds of others in the market place these days.

Posted: 6/24/2017 5:39:13 PM EDT

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BCM makes many parts for the SAINT...maybe more?

Posted: 6/24/2017 5:43:24 PM EDT

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Just curious, inquiring minds and all that

Posted: 6/24/2017 5:52:55 PM EDT

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As many AR's in the market these days, it is hard to track down who made what, If you get to see one in person, look at the forge marks, that will tell you who forged the upper and lower, but right now it is a wide open market and there are a lot of companies making parts.

Posted: 6/24/2017 6:05:15 PM EDT

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Pretty sure BCM makes the Judas. Or whoever makes parts for BCM makes the Judas. It's so hard to tell now a days.

Posted: 6/24/2017 7:04:07 PM EDT

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The saint has BCM furniture, that's about where the ties to BCM end.

Posted: 6/24/2017 7:20:28 PM EDT

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I was thinking Aero because they have the tensioning screw. Is Aero the only brand that does that?

Posted: 6/24/2017 7:49:35 PM EDT

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Nope, I have 4 Noreens that have the tension screw

Posted: 6/24/2017 10:19:47 PM EDT

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I was thinking Aero because they have the tensioning screw. Is Aero the only brand that does that?

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Mega also has a tensioning screw.

Posted: 6/24/2017 10:32:39 PM EDT

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So do the Runner Runner lowers iirc.

Posted: 6/24/2017 10:39:55 PM EDT

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Aero is a manufacturer and they also make lowers for other companies. Mainly smaller companies, but wouldn't be surprised if the also make them for Springfield. A huge company contract like that would be some good income. If its a billet lower than its definitely not Aero. They only do forged.

Posted: 6/24/2017 11:06:25 PM EDT

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Aero is a manufacturer and they also make lowers for other companies. Mainly smaller companies, but wouldn't be surprised if the also make them for Springfield. A huge company contract like that would be some good income. If its a billet lower than its definitely not Aero. They only do forged.

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Probably Aero.

Aero makes BCM receivers and BCGs if I'm not mistaken.

Posted: 6/24/2017 11:15:36 PM EDT

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Noveske/SMOS have them too

Posted: 6/24/2017 11:26:32 PM EDT

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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1990925_Rock-River-Arms--Springfield-Arms--and-IFMA.html

Posted: 6/25/2017 12:13:49 AM EDT

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Made in the USA? Yea, maybe it does to some people.

Posted: 6/25/2017 12:37:48 AM EDT

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My Kinetic lower has the screw as well, marketed as an "enhanced" lower. No idea who makes the forgings for them but good quality.
Saint is just mil spec parts most likely from the lowest seller at the price point Springfield is selling them at. I am seeing A, square and circle upper forge codes on google search images, mostly A. A code is Anchor Harvey Aluminum forge, square is Brass Aluminum. Circle is a newerish one not sure who makes that upper forging.
BCM makes only the funiture for the Saint. I would be interested to know who makes the BCG and barrel blanks.

Posted: 6/25/2017 12:59:11 AM EDT

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Way to help answer the OPs question, oh wait you didn't and you didn't add anything to help figure it out. Go spam another thread.

Posted: 6/25/2017 1:26:32 AM EDT

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Well,

I own 22 AR's now, 3 M16's and I know for a fact that every single part in every single one of them are made in America.

Good luck on figuring out who is making the Saint, other than finding a forge symbol on the upper and lower it is going to be difficult to see what combination of parts and who they came from.

That is the problem when you play in the area of "Lego Guns"

Posted: 6/25/2017 1:59:34 AM EDT

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Probably Aero.

Aero makes BCM receivers and BCGs if I'm not mistaken.

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First I heard this... Got a source or anything to go on with this?

Posted: 6/25/2017 2:39:00 AM EDT

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The XD is from Croatia

their 1911 casting and forgings are from Brazil

I really doubt that they started making AR parts themselves, anyone know who is making them?

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For the record, SA frames are no longer Imbel(which are/were great quality) made. Made in the USA as of late 2015/early 16.

Posted: 6/25/2017 8:28:28 AM EDT

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Way to help answer the OPs question, oh wait you didn't and you didn't add anything to help figure it out. Go spam another thread.

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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1990925_Rock-River-Arms--Springfield-Arms--and-IFMA.html

Way to help answer the OPs question, oh wait you didn't and you didn't add anything to help figure it out. Go spam another thread.

Since when is a link to a thread from the owner of this site "spam," friend?

It was and is the perfect answer to anything regarding SA or RRA, two companies that screwed gun owners for their own benefit/profit.
And now that I've also helped you figure things out, you're welcome.

Posted: 6/25/2017 2:31:23 PM EDT

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For the record, SA frames are no longer Imbel(which are/were great quality) made. Made in the USA as of late 2015/early 16.

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I was not aware of that - do you have a source?

Posted: 6/25/2017 5:23:46 PM EDT

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First I heard this... Got a source or anything to go on with this?

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Just insider info from industry pals. So it's questionable, but I respect them and their opinions.

Posted: 6/25/2017 5:32:05 PM EDT

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My Kinetic lower has the screw as well, marketed as an "enhanced" lower. No idea who makes the forgings for them but good quality.
Saint is just mil spec parts most likely from the lowest seller at the price point Springfield is selling them at. I am seeing A, square and circle upper forge codes on google search images, mostly A. A code is Anchor Harvey Aluminum forge, square is Brass Aluminum. Circle is a newerish one not sure who makes that upper forging.
BCM makes only the funiture for the Saint. I would be interested to know who makes the BCG and barrel blanks.

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Surely the BCG is the most complicated machining in the Ar15 - there really can't be many manufacturers of that part.

Posted: 6/25/2017 5:50:27 PM EDT

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Since when is a link to a thread from the owner of this site "spam," friend?

It was and is the perfect answer to anything regarding SA or RRA, two companies that screwed gun owners for their own benefit/profit.
And now that I've also helped you figure things out, you're welcome.

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I know exactly which thread was linked and why. The why does not answer any of the OPs questions so they do not pertain to this thread, so in other words you didn't help OP with his question.

Posted: 6/25/2017 8:09:52 PM EDT

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I know exactly which thread was linked and why. The why does not answer any of the OPs questions so they do not pertain to this thread, so in other words you didn't help OP with his question.

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Since when is a link to a thread from the owner of this site "spam," friend?

It was and is the perfect answer to anything regarding SA or RRA, two companies that screwed gun owners for their own benefit/profit.
And now that I've also helped you figure things out, you're welcome.

I know exactly which thread was linked and why. The why does not answer any of the OPs questions so they do not pertain to this thread, so in other words you didn't help OP with his question.

YOU know, does the OP? Perhaps he is investigating the origin of parts because he is contemplating a purchase from this company in the near-future? We would be remiss by withholding pertinent information that could greatly affect a well-informed buying decision. You apparently disagree. Why? He was curious and has received info not just about the parts but, additionally, the company that sells the finished product.

Posted: 6/25/2017 8:25:52 PM EDT

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L.W. SCHNEIDER of Princeton, Il.

Posted: 6/25/2017 8:53:13 PM EDT

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Dang, talk about flying under the radar, that company has done it for over four decades!

Posted: 6/25/2017 9:22:58 PM EDT

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from lw schneider website

Posted: 6/25/2017 9:27:11 PM EDT

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they are strickly an industry supplier-- unless you want a thousand plus of something they don't want to hear from you.

Posted: 6/25/2017 9:31:04 PM EDT

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Does it really matter, it is just another .mil spec AR15, just like hundreds of others in the market place these days.

Just curious, inquiring minds and all that

My guess would be Aero.

Posted: 6/25/2017 9:58:03 PM EDT

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Good lord.

"We don't know what it is or what it does, but I'll be damned if it doesn't look cool!"

Posted: 6/26/2017 10:34:17 PM EDT

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Springfield 1911's are made 100% in the USA and have been for a while. I spoke with the Factory Store employees at Camp Perry during the National Matches and they stated that they were in fact all 100% made in the US.

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Just insider info from industry pals. So it's questionable, but I respect them and their opinions.

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First I heard this... Got a source or anything to go on with this?

Just insider info from industry pals. So it's questionable, but I respect them and their opinions.

Posted: 6/26/2017 11:09:14 PM EDT

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Springfield 1911's are made 100% in the USA and have been for a while. I spoke with the Factory Store employees at Camp Perry during the National Matches and they stated that they were in fact all 100% made in the US.

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???

My post was about Aero mfg for BCM

Posted: 6/27/2017 1:04:20 AM EDT

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Probably Aero.

Aero makes BCM receivers and BCGs if I'm not mistaken.

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Probably Aero.

Aero makes BCM receivers and BCGs if I'm not mistaken.

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how it all starts. It's funny how many machine shops there are in the United States that are capable of manufacturing AR15 parts, yet people consistently regurgitate the same junk they hear on forums. Receivers are not hard at all to manufacture.

As for the OP, they probably pull the same shit that most other AR15 "manufacturers" do. They source parts from numerous machine shops from across the country, and slap it together. AR15s are EASY to put together. They probably put them together themselves.

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Springfield 1911's are made 100% in the USA and have been for a while. I spoke with the Factory Store employees at Camp Perry during the National Matches and they stated that they were in fact all 100% made in the US.

Yeah, I'm not buying it. Especially after the crap they pulled here in Illinois. I highly doubt they are "making" them 100% in the USA.

Posted: 6/29/2017 12:25:23 AM EDT

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do da name EMBEL ring a bell?????

Posted: 6/29/2017 6:24:18 AM EDT

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PSA doesn't make parts. They buy lots of rejects and bottom barrel.

Posted: 6/29/2017 8:04:53 AM EDT

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No not a thing, but Imbel does.

Posted: 6/29/2017 7:02:32 PM EDT

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whoops!!!! alphabet brain fart

Posted: 6/30/2017 10:43:01 AM EDT

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Guys do some research on AO Precision. NOT AERO.

AO PRECISION manufactures parts for almost every single "AR Manufacturing" company at some point in time, including our Receivers and BCGs. They are a TRUE OEM company and do not brand their own product, they stamp other companies logos on their manufactured components.

I believe a lot of you hear AO and mistake that for AERO Precision.

AO makes the absolute best mil spec, forged AR15 components.
They are located in Florida and directly supply our military.

By the way, I am not knocking Aero here just giving you some insight where some confusion may have occurred. Aero makes excellent quality components as well!

Jason

Posted: 6/30/2017 1:52:19 PM EDT

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Guys do some research on AO Precision. NOT AERO.

AO PRECISION manufactures parts for almost every single "AR Manufacturing" company at some point in time, including our Receivers and BCGs. They are a TRUE OEM company and do not brand their own product, they stamp other companies logos on their manufactured components.

I believe a lot of you hear AO and mistake that for AERO Precision.

AO makes the absolute best mil spec, forged AR15 components.
They are located in Florida and directly supply our military.

By the way, I am not knocking Aero here just giving you some insight where some confusion may have occurred. Aero makes excellent quality components as well!

Jason

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I bought 2 AO BCGs from you. Excellent stuff.

Posted: 6/30/2017 2:13:51 PM EDT

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Way to help answer the OPs question, oh wait you didn't and you didn't add anything to help figure it out. Go spam another thread.

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Way to help answer the OPs question, oh wait you didn't and you didn't add anything to help figure it out. Go spam another thread.

cant blame him though, true n all.

Posted: 6/30/2017 2:27:29 PM EDT

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Wonder if they will ever sell just the lower like you can buy just the lower from Ruger?

I would love to have a lower with some crossed cannons - just not going to pay north of 700 bucks to get that.....

Red

Posted: 6/30/2017 6:11:01 PM EDT

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The SAINT barrels are made by Green Mountain. Springfield Armory does re-profile them to meet their needs. Furniture, of course, is from BCM. There is much speculation on everything else.