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Posted: 6/18/2017 9:53:01 AM EDT
Foind this on Gunbroker. Is this a legit setup?
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/657863141  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 10:03:41 AM EDT
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No idea, but that's kinda cool. I may have to put together something similar just because. Won't cost anywhere near that, though.
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Posted: 6/18/2017 10:16:49 AM EDT
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Colt makes the M4, FN makes some of the M16's and most I saw were Colt until the last few years (Navy guy here).
Its possible deployment weapons kits could come like that but it would vary with the unit. If your looking for a turn key Carbine package at a lower cost I would look on te EE here for a Colt 6920 with associated optics and accesories. They are trying to sell the FN Military collectors carbine with a bunch of stuff. Nothing wrong with the weapon or anything but you could probably get a slightly used setup a little cheaper. |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 10:24:30 AM EDT
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Guns America did an article on the gun last July
https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/fn-military-collector-series-m4-true-mil-spec-5-56-carbine-full-review/ And Fn America has them listed on their website for just the gun at $1749.00 https://fnamerica.com/products/rifles/fn-15-military-collector-m4/ |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 10:37:09 AM EDT
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Pretty sure that's just packages that vendor puts together and sells with some "colorful" marketing.
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Posted: 6/18/2017 10:37:16 AM EDT
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Colt makes the M4, FN makes some of the M16's and most I saw were Colt until the last few years (Navy guy here). Its possible deployment weapons kits could come like that but it would vary with the unit. If your looking for a turn key Carbine package at a lower cost I would look on te EE here for a Colt 6920 with associated optics and accesories. They are trying to sell the FN Military collectors carbine with a bunch of stuff. Nothing wrong with the weapon or anything but you could probably get a slightly used setup a little cheaper. |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 11:39:53 AM EDT
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Pretty sure that's just packages that vendor puts together and sells with some "colorful" marketing. No such thing as an issue "deployment kit." |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 11:49:00 AM EDT
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Pretty sure that's just packages that vendor puts together and sells with some "colorful" marketing. |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 12:00:22 PM EDT
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pretty cool, put your own together
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Posted: 6/18/2017 1:02:59 PM EDT
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Those people do all sorts of stupid shit and try to pass it off as military stuff.
Fuck them. |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 1:30:45 PM EDT
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OP found Rocke Guns In on 1 ETA Needs more Rocke sword swords yo If you want UID stickers... roll your own UID sticker for $12 bucks |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 2:13:18 PM EDT
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I thought Colt lost all their Military contracts and them FN had all the M4A1 contracts.
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Posted: 6/18/2017 2:21:17 PM EDT
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Rocke is known for making up a bunch of their own "exclusive limited edition rifles."
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Posted: 6/18/2017 5:45:53 PM EDT
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This. No such thing as an issue "deployment kit." |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 5:56:52 PM EDT
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I hated putting together the Barrett M107 deployment kits. Ended up being 2 Pelican 1750 cases strapped together. The second case was filled with all kinds of extra stuff. |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 6:14:54 PM EDT
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I wouldn't mind the case itself.
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Posted: 6/18/2017 6:20:17 PM EDT
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Colt makes the M4, FN makes some of the M16's and most I saw were Colt until the last few years (Navy guy here). Its possible deployment weapons kits could come like that but it would vary with the unit. If your looking for a turn key Carbine package at a lower cost I would look on te EE here for a Colt 6920 with associated optics and accesories.. Put one on layaway Friday. 6x6920's, wth 
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Posted: 6/18/2017 6:29:06 PM EDT
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Rocke Guns strikes again.
They love engraving "Property of XXX/GOV ONLY!!!111" and passing it off as the real deal. |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 6:35:06 PM EDT
[#18]
just gives me ideas how to set stuff up, let the unkown pay hard for exclusive deployment packeges
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Posted: 6/18/2017 9:10:51 PM EDT
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That vendor often makes stuff up. They bought several SR-25's awhile back and engraved them "Govt Property/Military" blah blah.
It's total BS |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 9:57:44 PM EDT
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Just posting to chime in on the don't fall for the Rocke Guns snake oil gimmicks. You could definitely source everything yourself and come in spending less.
ETA: Just for shitz and giggles, take a look at this whopping deal. I'm definitely sold on it being close to an issued kit given the fact that it comes with Blast Shields. LOL. ETA 2: I'll give them credit though. At least they are offering quality gear and not some Old School Vulcan type rifles with their marketing. "SEAL Deployment Package" |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 10:02:51 PM EDT
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Rocke is known for making up a bunch of their own "exclusive limited edition rifles." |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 11:57:31 PM EDT
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Those people do all sorts of stupid shit and try to pass it off as military stuff. Fuck them. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 12:27:18 AM EDT
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The description is BS. Colt had the exclusive M4 contract until a few years ago so FN has only been maing the M4 and M4A1 for a few years not since 1988. FNH made most of the M16A4s, but Colt was making most of the A2s until like the late 90s into the early 2000's when the A4 started taking over. Colt lost it in 2009, had some legal battles then lost it for sure in 2012, but won it again in I think 2015 and has it until 2020. Not exclusive, but still a pretty large one.
The bayonet has a goofy grip that is smoother than the issued ones unless they've changed relatively recently. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 8:11:58 AM EDT
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Pretty sure that's just packages that vendor puts together and sells with some "colorful" marketing. 
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Posted: 6/19/2017 7:35:40 PM EDT
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Interesting wording for what amounts to clone kit.
Basic Block I Colt, M9, 7 USGI mags and an Otis Cleaning kit is pretty standard deployment fair for USAF cops. That ad is a bit deceptive though, I could see why panties would be twisted over it. Technically no such thing exists. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 9:57:26 PM EDT
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Just posting to chime in on the don't fall for the Rocke Guns snake oil gimmicks. You could definitely source everything yourself and come in spending less. ETA: Just for shitz and giggles, take a look at this whopping deal. I'm definitely sold on it being close to an issued kit given the fact that it comes with Blast Shields. LOL. ETA 2: I'll give them credit though. At least they are offering quality gear and not some Old School Vulcan type rifles with their marketing. "SEAL Deployment Package" Have they heard of paragraphs and formatting? |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 10:21:35 PM EDT
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Holy wall of text. Have they heard of paragraphs and formatting? 
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Posted: 6/20/2017 6:21:37 AM EDT
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That's a load of horse shit.
The mil wouldn't waste their time buying non-NFA m4s, to issue to civilians. Contracting companies could just issue employees whatever they want because they aren't in the US, and if they're going to Iraq or some other shithole, who's going to say anything? Could a unit compile a kit like this? Sure. Would they? Probably not. Your weapon goes on a sling and your sidearm in a holster... for travel (IME) they would ship in a mobile armory type container or be brought onto the ship and stored in the arms room onboard until you reach the destination. It's a stupid marketing scheme, but I will say that it is kind of cool, most everything you need for a range trip in one case... ETA: since when do civilians wear dog tags? Or "deploy"? Although if I was a contractor (being prior service) in shitholeistan I might bring my dog tags out of retirement. |
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Posted: 6/20/2017 8:33:30 AM EDT
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Rocke Guns
 , you should have seen the BS hype they came up with when the Colt M45's were hot. All kinds of specially named kits.
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Posted: 6/20/2017 2:15:54 PM EDT
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I think the Rocke products are great. I don't care that they aren't issue, aren't "contract overruns" and weren't made for the FBI, SEALS, Border Patrol, Green Berets, NASA, the Secret Service and so on. They seems to get and refinish or contract out the refinishing of firearms that are quality items and relatively unique.
Wilson Combat pistols and FN semi-auto SAW's are always interesting IMO. Would I buy anything from them, paying a premium for their "special contract overruns", probably not. That doesn't make the firearms any less interesting. |
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Posted: 6/20/2017 4:47:24 PM EDT
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I thought Colt lost all their Military contracts and them FN had all the M4A1 contracts. FN is delivering new M4A1s while Colt is delivering 85% of all the upgrade parts to turn the M4 into the M4A1. |
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Posted: 6/20/2017 10:51:56 PM EDT
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I think the Rocke products are great. I don't care that they aren't issue, aren't "contract overruns" and weren't made for the FBI, SEALS, Border Patrol, Green Berets, NASA, the Secret Service and so on. They seems to get and refinish or contract out the refinishing of firearms that are quality items and relatively unique. Wilson Combat pistols and FN semi-auto SAW's are always interesting IMO. Would I buy anything from them, paying a premium for their "special contract overruns", probably not. That doesn't make the firearms any less interesting. It's the integrity fail, not the gear. Wouldn't think anybody would need to explain that. |
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Posted: 6/20/2017 11:19:46 PM EDT
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"Five (5) real GI issue magazines $222"
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Posted: 6/20/2017 11:32:55 PM EDT
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These "Border Patrol" SCARs are retarded too... CBP (BP, OFO, AMO) don't engrave weapons FFS.
I love the badges they show too - they're completely fake as are the hats and other shit they have in the pics to make this look legit. So stupid. Can't believe I'm even included the link: http://rockeguns.com/product/usbp-eval-scar-17h-trijicon-6x-bortac-rmr-copy/ Is this place for real? Do they actually get people paying for this stuff?? ETA: Is this for real: http://rockeguns.com/disclosure/ ? |
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Posted: 6/20/2017 11:39:16 PM EDT
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I love the idea of the "deployment kit", just don't like the price, lol!
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Posted: 6/20/2017 11:45:18 PM EDT
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These "Border Patrol" SCARs are retarded too... CBP (BP, OFO, AMO) don't engrave weapons FFS. I love the badges they show too - they're completely fake as are the hats and other shit they have in the pics to make this look legit. So stupid. Can't believe I'm even included the link: http://rockeguns.com/product/usbp-eval-scar-17h-trijicon-6x-bortac-rmr-copy/ Is this place for real? Do they actually get people paying for this stuff?? ETA: Is this for real: http://rockeguns.com/disclosure/ ?
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Posted: 6/21/2017 1:43:56 AM EDT
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ETA: Is this for real: http://rockeguns.com/disclosure/ ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
ETA: Is this for real: http://rockeguns.com/disclosure/ ? Any fully automatic contract overruns will have been converted to semi-automatic configuration and will pass any/all BATFE inspections. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:50:12 AM EDT
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Capitalism.......
Or a sucker born every minute 
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:27:53 AM EDT
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Interesting wording for what amounts to clone kit. Basic Block I Colt, M9, 7 USGI mags and an Otis Cleaning kit is pretty standard deployment fair for USAF cops. That ad is a bit deceptive though, I could see why panties would be twisted over it. Technically no such thing exists. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 5:03:48 AM EDT
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Nobody has a problem with the equipment (at least in this ad)... it's the lies they tell trying to sell it (at an inflated price). It's the integrity fail, not the gear. Wouldn't think anybody would need to explain that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think the Rocke products are great. I don't care that they aren't issue, aren't "contract overruns" and weren't made for the FBI, SEALS, Border Patrol, Green Berets, NASA, the Secret Service and so on. They seems to get and refinish or contract out the refinishing of firearms that are quality items and relatively unique. Wilson Combat pistols and FN semi-auto SAW's are always interesting IMO. Would I buy anything from them, paying a premium for their "special contract overruns", probably not. That doesn't make the firearms any less interesting. It's the integrity fail, not the gear. Wouldn't think anybody would need to explain that. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 5:50:20 AM EDT
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Nope. That's not a thing. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 7:47:19 AM EDT
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I do not see "PROPERTY OF THE US MILITARY" anywhere on the lower in the Civilian M4 Package deal.
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Posted: 6/24/2017 8:05:13 AM EDT
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Bunch of stuff thrown together.
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Posted: 6/24/2017 8:07:31 AM EDT
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This. No such thing as an issue "deployment kit." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pretty sure that's just packages that vendor puts together and sells with some "colorful" marketing. No such thing as an issue "deployment kit." |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 9:46:50 AM EDT
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That package is NOT military issue.... The language used in all of that sellers ads is just plain marketing - praying on uneducated buyers!
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Posted: 6/28/2017 4:52:30 AM EDT
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Did FN change the selector marking from FIRE to SEMI? on the MIL. collectors series. just wondering.
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Posted: 6/28/2017 7:11:54 PM EDT
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But is there a dick drawn on it?
Then it's legit. 
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Posted: 6/28/2017 7:17:12 PM EDT
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Legit?
Read his disclaimer section lol. They're actually telling you the barrels are broken in and everything's zero'd. I've been looking for someone to overcharge me for a used gun and claim it's a service. What's sad is people like them don't continue to throw crazy shit at the wall on the internet unless they're actually selling it. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 10:48:17 PM EDT
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I didnt think the kit was was a bad deal for a one stop shop and ship. Except the m9 isnt included. without it that seems rich. The more I read the ad the more deceptive it seems. 8/10 on the Shady Scale. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 4:29:06 AM EDT
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I think the Rocke products are great. I don't care that they aren't issue, aren't "contract overruns" and weren't made for the FBI, SEALS, Border Patrol, Green Berets, NASA, the Secret Service and so on. They seems to get and refinish or contract out the refinishing of firearms that are quality items and relatively unique. Wilson Combat pistols and FN semi-auto SAW's are always interesting IMO. Would I buy anything from them, paying a premium for their "special contract overruns", probably not. That doesn't make the firearms any less interesting. |
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