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Posted: 3/22/2017 2:35:40 PM EDT
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Hard to build one like that any cheaper.
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Posted: 3/22/2017 2:40:18 PM EDT
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Yeah for someone looking for an entry level ar or a truck gun that's hard to beat
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Posted: 3/22/2017 2:46:29 PM EDT
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Several low end ones have come on sale for $399 over the last month and ammo prices are falling, too. The really good news will be when the pressures of the low end ones starts bringing the prices down on the better names and starts making it a tough decision between building the next one and buying a high quality one.
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Posted: 3/22/2017 4:47:15 PM EDT
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Someone had the delton for 399$ shipped
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Posted: 3/22/2017 5:18:54 PM EDT
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Sportsmans Guide had an AR15 for $379 about a month ago.
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Posted: 3/22/2017 5:53:01 PM EDT
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Wyndham has one for $399 with a chrome lined barrel. Most at this pricepoint do not have it.
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Posted: 3/22/2017 6:26:58 PM EDT
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Brownells had a sale during the Super Bowl where they were selling Anderson AR's for $299.00
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Posted: 3/22/2017 8:30:18 PM EDT
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Wow, that is a decent price to get into an AR.
A year or so ago I started a topic reflecting on budget ARs taking over the slot that my SKS rifles filled a decade ago. Sure, the budget ARs are not mil-spec and all, but most quality budget ARs are still pretty good, and the key parts, if questionable or if issues arise, can always be upgraded and changed out. Amazing what you can get for the money. Younger guys don't realize that 15 or 20 years ago an AR was costing $750 or more... back then! Pretty sure I paid around $800 for a DPMS Hbar in '96, and that was a decent price at the time (in NY State, no less... when you could have 30 round mags.... but that's another story). |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 8:58:57 PM EDT
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That's tempting for sure. Hopefully more prices will fall.
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Posted: 3/22/2017 9:13:40 PM EDT
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I think I remember some people having issues with Radical ARs.
Am I mistaken, or did they improve? I'd need to do more digging to find it exactly what they were, but I recall reading about them in tech. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 9:59:08 PM EDT
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Hopefully not meant to be a thread hijack. As a civilian I go out with a life long friend who served his time who's got all kind's of nice toys, just about everything people would ask for Santa for. I go out with him when I can and learn alot. One thing he keeps commenting on is a hope that ammo would come down in price as well. Is that something guys on here would think is going to happen ?
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Posted: 3/22/2017 10:42:18 PM EDT
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Wyndham has one for $399 with a chrome lined barrel. Most at this pricepoint do not have it. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:14:32 PM EDT
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Lol Radical
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:47:33 PM EDT
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Yeah for someone looking for an entry level ar or a truck gun that's hard to beat |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 11:54:28 PM EDT
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Hopefully not meant to be a thread hijack. As a civilian I go out with a life long friend who served his time who's got all kind's of nice toys, just about everything people would ask for Santa for. I go out with him when I can and learn alot. One thing he keeps commenting on is a hope that ammo would come down in price as well. Is that something guys on here would think is going to happen ? |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:02:42 AM EDT
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What is an entry level AR? Sounds stupid Imo. Do you think its entry level because of the price? It will kill just as well as a 10000$ full auto M16, is there an entry level full auto M16? My first M-16 I paid under $600.00 for in 1984. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 12:05:15 AM EDT
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What is an entry level AR? Sounds stupid Imo. Do you think its entry level because of the price? It will kill just as well as a 10000$ full auto M16, is there an entry level full auto M16? 
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Posted: 3/23/2017 1:00:41 AM EDT
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I think I remember some people having issues with Radical ARs. Am I mistaken, or did they improve? I'd need to do more digging to find it exactly what they were, but I recall reading about them in tech. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 1:21:51 AM EDT
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Local shop runs an ongoing special on M&P Sport II for $519... lowest I've seen for a "big company" AR.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 7:48:24 AM EDT
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AIM Surplus regularly has carbine & pistol length radical uppers minus BCG for $210 shipped, multiple calibers too.
PSA complete lower is easy to get for $130. Add a BCG & handle and a complete rifle. Any functioning AR that's sold as a complete rifle for under $500 is a bargain compared to the cost of what other rifles go for. I paid more than that for my first AR upper (RRA) 10 years ago. I picked up a Radical Firearms 7.62x39 10" upper last year, so far it's run great and no issues. I regularly check the screws to see if they'll back out or loosen up, so far so good. I'm OK with putting a bit of Loctite on some screws for a $200 assembled upper. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 10:45:48 AM EDT
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Topic Moved
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Posted: 3/24/2017 3:12:37 PM EDT
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Let's not be intentionally obtuse here, mmkay? |
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Posted: 3/24/2017 3:26:31 PM EDT
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well I guess I'm obtuse about the "entry level" part. I have seen 400$ AR's transform into 2500$ precision rifles There's nothing wrong with melonite or phosphate treated bores and bbl extensions, or basic handguards and buttstocks, or milspec FCG's and BCG's etc etc - so long as you're only paying $400. IMO |
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Posted: 3/24/2017 9:13:39 PM EDT
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well I guess I'm obtuse about the "entry level" part. I have seen 400$ AR's transform into 2500$ precision rifles |
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Posted: 3/25/2017 3:16:49 AM EDT
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$399 Del-tons have been available for months now.
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Posted: 3/25/2017 4:31:29 AM EDT
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We need $300 AKs again.
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Posted: 3/25/2017 4:41:50 AM EDT
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well I guess I'm obtuse about the "entry level" part. I have seen 400$ AR's transform into 2500$ precision rifles 'Entry level' means ECONOMIC GRADE. It's a nice way of saying that it of such low quality of parts and/or craftsmanship that it would never be allowed for US military use, if even US LE use. But we try not to discourage people who are buying their first or won't buy better (all has to do with price as almost the only factor). Better for a good, responsible person to own an economy grade AR than none at all. But you're being silly. No one is taking a $400 AR and making it into a $2500 PRECISION rifle... Not without replacing most everything on the gun. It would be dumb to keep using the lower quality parts of a $400 AR in your high dollar precision build. While I'm sure it has happened... it has barely happened, even though there's an idiot born every second. If you are refering to the US mil in this... a Colt M4 costs about $650 for the base rifle. Adding a CCO, PEQ, RAS handguard, etc etc can certainly add up, but not to precision. |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 10:27:17 PM EDT
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Local shop runs an ongoing special on M&P Sport II for $519... lowest I've seen for a "big company" AR. https://www.slickguns.com/product/smith-wesson-mp15-sport-ii-optics-ready-556-nato-16%E2%80%B3-30rd-black-479?view=list |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 8:38:49 AM EDT
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If you're pretty sure you're going to keep it as is, these would be fine deals. But once you start upgrading, and you have left over parts, another build is likely, etc. ...
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Posted: 3/30/2017 10:39:17 AM EDT
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If you're pretty sure you're going to keep it as is, these would be fine deals. But once you start upgrading, and you have left over parts, another build is likely, etc. ... |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 11:03:54 AM EDT
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What is the appeal of cheap ass ar15's?
like buying a $99 ccw piece. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 11:40:38 AM EDT
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The big question is, will it work? I've got a buddy that asked me about these and I didn't know what to tell him. Budget is tight, but he'd like an AR and saw these. I was thinking to tell him to jump on one, but I have no clue if that's good advice or not.
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Posted: 3/30/2017 12:10:20 PM EDT
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What is the appeal of cheap ass ar15's? like buying a $99 ccw piece. ] |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 12:26:00 PM EDT
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What is the appeal of cheap ass ar15's? like buying a $99 ccw piece. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 1:57:37 PM EDT
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We need $300 AKs again. 
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Posted: 3/30/2017 2:07:59 PM EDT
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Yeah, they start at around $18,000.00+ My first M-16 I paid under $600.00 for in 1984. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What is an entry level AR? Sounds stupid Imo. Do you think its entry level because of the price? It will kill just as well as a 10000$ full auto M16, is there an entry level full auto M16? My first M-16 I paid under $600.00 for in 1984. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 2:22:23 PM EDT
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Vs the rifle in OP I'd rather have a
-psa freedom upper $180 -psa magpul lower $150ish -psa/toolcraft/aim bcg $80+ No firearm tax when just lower to ffl $410 + fewer fees than the complete RF And PSA/aim > Radical Firearms. I have a couple freedom uppers that are a few years old that are g2g. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 2:23:02 PM EDT
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Wyndham has one for $399 with a chrome lined barrel. Most at this pricepoint do not have it. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 4:35:57 PM EDT
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The one universal I've seen with the super-cheap priced AR's has been they all have 16" Barrels with carbine gas systems. Not saying those don't work, but given the choice you're pretty much always going to want a middy gas system on a 16" BBL today.
I will say, if I ever see one of these <$500 ARs (or <$300 uppers w/ BCG) with a 14.5 pinned to 16" with a carbine gas system - I'm buying it. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 5:26:50 PM EDT
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I got the same Outdoor USA kit, but sprung for the $30 ambi charging handle with it. I had some Aero lowers in the safe. Total price for mine, with a Magpul MOE trigger guard and QD sling back plate, was right at $400. Going to do a spray paint camo job and my son will use it for coyote hunting.
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Posted: 3/30/2017 5:32:16 PM EDT
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I think I remember some people having issues with Radical ARs. Am I mistaken, or did they improve? I'd need to do more digging to find it exactly what they were, but I recall reading about them in tech. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 5:44:14 PM EDT
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I got the same Outdoor USA kit, but sprung for the $30 ambi charging handle with it. I had some Aero lowers in the safe. Total price for mine, with a Magpul MOE trigger guard and QD sling back plate, was right at $400. Going to do a spray paint camo job and my son will use it for coyote hunting. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 5:54:56 PM EDT
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Amen to that! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need $300 AKs again. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 8:40:16 PM EDT
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Have you shot yours yet? I haven't shot mine. I was happy with the components and how it went together though |
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Posted: 3/31/2017 2:38:39 PM EDT
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That's about as much as I'll pay for an AK, and that's still about $200 more than they're worth. 
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Posted: 4/18/2017 11:02:50 PM EDT
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Nothing wrong with most of these rifles for the average shooter. Even the guys that shoot 3-4 times a month.
Nowadays it's hard to mess up an AR. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 11:17:27 PM EDT
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I would NEVER, NEVER buy a Radical Firearms AR15 at any price.
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Posted: 4/18/2017 11:20:32 PM EDT
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My local dealer had some deltons for $350 last saturday.
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Posted: 4/18/2017 11:46:52 PM EDT
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well I guess I'm obtuse about the "entry level" part. I have seen 400$ AR's transform into 2500$ precision rifles Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Let's not be intentionally obtuse here, mmkay? |
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