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Posted: 2/25/2017 11:44:44 AM EDT
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That is exactly what he said. He is saying 'four months at battlefield vegas, and all that broke is one part? I don't hold that against the design." My bad. Quoted the wrong person 
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Posted: 3/4/2017 3:21:48 PM EDT
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I hate to say it but we finally suffered a failure with the upper. The plastic hand guard at the gas block finally cracked. The upper is still functional and I myself would feel safe using it but because of liability issues, I had the armorers pull it. The hand guards attach to the gas block and after continuous running, it's my opinion that the heat not going into the upper receiver/bolt carrier group is caused the plastic to crack. It has been very low-maintenance unit and will definitely add more to the left when a rail is available. I'm not knocking the quality of the rail but most customers want the look of a rail with cover and forwards pistol grip. V/R Ron Edit: dyslexia and a cocktail while on the flight Ron, any update on the round count as you approach 5 months? Are you over the 10,000 round count already? |
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Posted: 3/4/2017 4:03:39 PM EDT
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Yeah I been checking that site once a week, it went from no webpage to a place holder webpage. Obviously they can slap a website together behind the scenes and put it up at any min. But changing to a place holder tell me someone is working on it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anybody else try to go to the web sight on the box? It gos to some other sight for me. Where can you buy these? Yeah I been checking that site once a week, it went from no webpage to a place holder webpage. Obviously they can slap a website together behind the scenes and put it up at any min. But changing to a place holder tell me someone is working on it. This is really weird. Wolf's web site is "wolfammo.com" when I just tried to go to the address on the box, "wolf-arms.com" I get automatically redirected to "prize o rama" and a pop up that says "congratulations Android user, you just won a $1000 Wal Mart gift card" looks like I may have gotten a virus. Had to close the window asap. |
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Posted: 3/7/2017 11:11:10 PM EDT
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This is really weird. Wolf's web site is "wolfammo.com" when I just tried to go to the address on the box, "wolf-arms.com" I get automatically redirected to "prize o rama" and a pop up that says "congratulations Android user, you just won a $1000 Wal Mart gift card" looks like I may have gotten a virus. Had to close the window asap. I dont know what you do on your free time :D I wish they would open up wolf-arms.com or better yet aimsurplus needs to get some in stock, I got monies...why you no want? |
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Posted: 3/8/2017 9:10:28 AM EDT
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Do you think the Russians are trying to find the next AK47, and having us Americans do all the T&E? I do.
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Posted: 3/8/2017 9:46:23 AM EDT
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Sooo you took a rifle many collect for it's uniqueness and history and tried to turn it into an oper8or mall ninja rifle. I kinda get why you're not into this upper. It's not "regular kit" that can be messed with. It's not about that. This upper clearly isn't for you. That's cool. No problem with how you want to collect and use your firearms. But also realize there isn't anything wrong with how other people like to collect and use their firearms. And FYI butting into and shitting on a thread where people ARE excited about something you're not is a dickass thing to do, so maybe cut that out. Once you pull off the Daewoo Butthole stock, (You of course do realize the DR200 was a Ban Era rifle, right?) which nobody collects for it's "uniqueness", you have no choice but to do a full 922R on the gun....unless you like prison? I think the Wolf will be a good upper, but it won't do anything a standard DI AR from any decent company won't do and unless it's mated with a Taiwanese type lower it's not even a "collectible" so it just seems goofy to me... To each their own. |
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Posted: 3/8/2017 11:03:40 AM EDT
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To each their own. yet you keep returning here to post about how "it won't do anything a standard DI AR won't". "BYE Felicia!" |
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Posted: 3/8/2017 12:03:45 PM EDT
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Do you think the Russians are trying to find the next AK47, and having us Americans do all the T&E? I do. Russia has nothing to do with this product 
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Posted: 3/8/2017 12:47:49 PM EDT
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Do you think the Russians are trying to find the next AK47, and having us Americans do all the T&E? I do. Russia has nothing to do with this product Yeeeaaahhh... I'm just going to pretend I didn't see something that ridiculous on here.
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Posted: 3/8/2017 1:50:06 PM EDT
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Do you think the Russians are trying to find the next AK47, and having us Americans do all the T&E? I do. The next AK 47? Like the AK 74, or the AN 94 or the AK 107? Probably a few others I'm forgetting. This T91 was designed in the 70's IIRC by Taiwan and has been in use for decades. I doubt the Russians give a crap. |
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Posted: 3/8/2017 9:08:18 PM EDT
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Do you think the Russians are trying to find the next AK47, and having us Americans do all the T&E? I do. 1. The Wolf A1 upper is based off the T91, which is Taiwanese designed and made and replaced their T-65 rifle in the early 2000s. Many countries use the T-91, especially a few in hot and sandy areas, like Jordan/Kuwait/UAE + India. Also used in the hot jungles of Indonesia. So has been used successfully in a variety of climates. 2. Russians already have their AK-12 vs. A-545 for their new AK. Both of those have passed the Russian state "Ratnik trials" and were supposedly accepted into service with operational units for evaluation. I have not heard about them picking a "winner" about which rifle they will use for their combat rifle. |
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Posted: 3/9/2017 1:03:13 AM EDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0psT6Q-v9AY
This guy says they're available now and to "check wolf's website" but there's no info. So there are around 250 of them being imported for the first batch before they mess up the front sight block. They are "available now" but nobody has them. AIM Surplus is rumored to be getting some, but doesn't have them and doesn't know when they'll get them. Are these things vaporware? Where do you get one? |
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Posted: 3/9/2017 1:22:34 AM EDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0psT6Q-v9AY This guy says they're available now and to "check wolf's website" but there's no info. So there are around 250 of them being imported for the first batch before they mess up the front sight block. They are "available now" but nobody has them. AIM Surplus is rumored to be getting some, but doesn't have them and doesn't know when they'll get them. Are these things vaporware? Where do you get one? Mess up the front sight block? I thought they were only making a small change to the front sight post so that it is taller and would then work with standard AR-15 rear sights? |
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Posted: 3/9/2017 5:18:01 AM EDT
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It's looking like they won't have enough supply to keep up with the demand which kinda explains the hush-hush from Wolf and the distributors.
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Posted: 3/9/2017 8:50:53 PM EDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0psT6Q-v9AY This guy says they're available now and to "check wolf's website" but there's no info. So there are around 250 of them being imported for the first batch before they mess up the front sight block. They are "available now" but nobody has them. AIM Surplus is rumored to be getting some, but doesn't have them and doesn't know when they'll get them. Are these things vaporware? Where do you get one? Sounds like the first ones are supposed to be hitting in the next couple weeks |
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Posted: 3/9/2017 9:21:31 PM EDT
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Most of my gun funds for the next few months are going into a 1911 and bullet casting setup. Very good chance I won't be able to swing one of these while they are available. Have fun with them, fellas.
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Posted: 3/10/2017 5:46:55 PM EDT
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Russia has nothing to do with this product Wolf is based out of Russia, so I'm not too sure you're right. |
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Posted: 3/10/2017 5:52:21 PM EDT
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Wolf is based out of Russia, so I'm not too sure you're right. You mean California. So still commies. |
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Posted: 3/10/2017 5:55:01 PM EDT
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Wolf is based out of Russia, so I'm not too sure you're right. A simple Google search will tell you this. |
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Posted: 3/11/2017 2:12:43 AM EDT
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Wolf is based out of Russia, so I'm not too sure you're right. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Russia has nothing to do with this product Wolf is based out of Russia, so I'm not too sure you're right. Why do you talk about things you obviously know ZERO about? Wolf Performance Ammunition is an American business employing American workers. It imports ammunition for the US commercial market from many countries including Russia, Germany, Spain, Serbia, Taiwan, etc. and other products from even more. The Wolf Gold brass case .223 Rem is produced in Taiwan at a very respected arsenal which also developed this upper receiver assembly for the Taiwanese military and LE. Their 12 gauge buckshot and slug loads are produced by SK of Germany. Their .22 LR Match ammunition is produced by SK of Germany, which also produces Lapua's .22 LR Match ammunition. Their shotshells are produced in Spain. Most of the brass case ammunition line is produced in Serbia. Much of the steel case centerfire line is produced in Russia. Their brass case 7.62x54mmR EXTRA Match load is produced by LVE in Novosibirsk which is known for high quality match and sniper loads. The company is American, they source products for the US market just like many others do, such as Colt with their .223 ammo imported from.......OMG.......Russia...... http://www.sgammo.com/product/223-556mm-ammo/20-round-box-223-rem-62-grain-fmj-colt-branded-made-russia-barnaul-zinc-plate 
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Posted: 3/11/2017 2:19:57 AM EDT
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Wolf is based out of Russia, so I'm not too sure you're right. Dude, just stop. Stop. Please.
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Posted: 3/11/2017 2:25:16 AM EDT
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Do you think the Russians are trying to find the next AK47, and having us Americans do all the T&E? I do. Derptastic post....... The next AK47? You mean like the AKM which was adopted in 1959 to replace the AK47? Or the AK74 which was adopted in 1974 to replace the AKM? Or the AK74M which replaced the AK74 or the AK100 series.............or the....... You do realize the Arsenal responsible for these was IZHMASH, now Concern Kalashnikov, and they are not allowed to export firearms to the US and that Wolf Performance Ammunition has ZERO relations with them. Or even that Taiwan is.........a Republic.........and anti-Communist and fought a war with Communist China. That they are a staunch US ally. Or that the Wolf gas piston upper receiver was developed by the Taiwanese Arsenal 205 for the Taiwanese Army and the series dates back to the Type 65 Assault Rifle Type 86 Assault Rifle and the current Type 91 Assault Rifle 
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Posted: 3/11/2017 2:36:20 AM EDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0psT6Q-v9AY This guy says they're available now and to "check wolf's website" but there's no info. So there are around 250 of them being imported for the first batch before they mess up the front sight block. They are "available now" but nobody has them. AIM Surplus is rumored to be getting some, but doesn't have them and doesn't know when they'll get them. Are these things vaporware? Where do you get one? ikr He posted in the video comments 1 day ago "Should be available now on Wolf's website" is there another wolf website other than wolfammo.com ?
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Posted: 3/11/2017 6:44:01 PM EDT
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Yeeeaaahhh... I'm just going to pretend I didn't see something that ridiculous on here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do you think the Russians are trying to find the next AK47, and having us Americans do all the T&E? I do. Russia has nothing to do with this product Yeeeaaahhh... I'm just going to pretend I didn't see something that ridiculous on here. ....wait.... the Russian's hacked the Wolf Upper ?...... Sorry, but after 5 full pages... a little humor, was better then the still not available... |
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Posted: 3/11/2017 6:57:39 PM EDT
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The ROC desgn in proven. They've been running it for a VERY LONG TIME. This isn't just some fad upper. It is a proven military design. At the same time the AR has been in service with the US for 60 years yet every day all across the internet we read how crappy it is. Slight rant, but being used for a long time by a Military does not mean it's a super awesome proven design. Plenty of countries use crap weapons. /Endrant. That said, this does appear to be a decent upper at a good price. |
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Posted: 3/11/2017 7:19:47 PM EDT
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At the same time the AR has been in service with the US for 60 years yet every day all across the internet we read how crappy it is. Slight rant, but being used for a long time by a Military does not mean it's a super awesome proven design. Plenty of countries use crap weapons. /Endrant. That said, this does appear to be a decent upper at a good price. |
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Posted: 3/11/2017 7:40:18 PM EDT
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....wait.... the Russian's hacked the Wolf Upper ?...... Sorry, but after 5 full pages... a little humor, was better then the still not available... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do you think the Russians are trying to find the next AK47, and having us Americans do all the T&E? I do. Russia has nothing to do with this product Yeeeaaahhh... I'm just going to pretend I didn't see something that ridiculous on here. ....wait.... the Russian's hacked the Wolf Upper ?...... Sorry, but after 5 full pages... a little humor, was better then the still not available... I meant it's ridiculous that the Russians would have anything to do with Taiwanese rifle parts being imported and finished in the US for the civilian market, nevermind that Wolf is an American importer. The day the Russians adopt a rifle based on the M16 is the same day Hugh Hefner chops his dick off, puts on a bunny outfit and fake titties and publishes the pictures in playboy. In other news... Your joke is the actual reason I am absolutely against "smart guns," though I am less concerned about the Russians than my own government.  
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Posted: 3/11/2017 7:48:05 PM EDT
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We already explained to the other troll who was shitposting in this thread. WE KNOW. We know that the AR is great. This can be great too, it's hardly a pair of mutually exclusive conditions. I wansnt saying the AR is great. Just pointing out that just because a country uses it, does not mean it's amazing. However Ron's testing is showing it to be a good upper for the money. That's what matters. |
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Posted: 3/11/2017 8:04:53 PM EDT
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Gentlemen, please stick to the subject of the thread and keep it technical or I will have to lock it. Thanks. - Old_Painless
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Posted: 3/11/2017 8:14:31 PM EDT
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Edited. Didn't see mod before posting g.
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Posted: 3/11/2017 9:27:50 PM EDT
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Patiently waiting..to build a Type 65 clone.
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Posted: 3/12/2017 12:28:17 AM EDT
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The day the Russians adopt a rifle based on the M16.... http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/2016/tinfoilhatsmile.gif[/img] To be fair certain units have HK 416 and 417 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/06/29/russian-special-forces-using-hk417-ai-aw-in-dagestan/ |
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Posted: 3/12/2017 9:15:34 AM EDT
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I have built up a lower with a BCM enhanced trigger group, Vltor A5 Emod stock set up , waiting for one of these. I realize things like this may never come. We all seen it before. But just in case it flops , I'm going to drop an A4 20" on it and call it good.
Cheers WarDawg
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Posted: 3/13/2017 4:23:43 PM EDT
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Mess up the front sight block? I thought they were only making a small change to the front sight post so that it is taller and would then work with standard AR-15 rear sights? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Mess up the front sight block? I thought they were only making a small change to the front sight post so that it is taller and would then work with standard AR-15 rear sights? In my eyes that's messing it up, I want one of these to attempt to build a T91 clone and raising the front sight block, therby forcing the use of a normal AR rear sight (instead of the T91 carry handle they said would come with it--which apparently they didn't) would wreck my build! Quoted:
ikr He posted in the video comments 1 day ago "Should be available now on Wolf's website" is there another wolf website other than wolfammo.com ? Yessir, wolf-arms.com is printed on the box the test uppers came in, but the site is defunct and some people report virus warnings from the redirects, so be very careful if you actually try to view that site. Why are new guns so hard to find?! I've been trying to find a Ruger Precision Rifle in 6.5 for over a year, been trying to find a Bergara B14 for 2 months and still can't get a list of distributors out of Hudson so I can buy their H9! Holy cow manufacturers TAKE MY MONEY PLEASE, just tell me how to throw it at you! |
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Posted: 3/13/2017 4:34:26 PM EDT
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Not raising the front sight block, but simply adding a taller front sight.
If you want to make a repro spend two minutes with a file to shorten the front sight, if it even needs it. Looks like Wolf is consolidating their optics and arms web info onto their main site, but haven't launched it yet. |
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Posted: 3/14/2017 11:52:55 PM EDT
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Yessir, wolf-arms.com is printed on the box the test uppers came in, but the site is defunct and some people report virus warnings from the redirects, so be very careful if you actually try to view that site. Why are new guns so hard to find?! I've been trying to find a Ruger Precision Rifle in 6.5 for over a year, been trying to find a Bergara B14 for 2 months and still can't get a list of distributors out of Hudson so I can buy their H9! Holy cow manufacturers TAKE MY MONEY PLEASE, just tell me how to throw it at you! I cant get to that website, it automatically puts http://ww2 or http://ww12 in front of the url and takes me to a dead sight. I think I am done checking for these every day, as soon as I say I'm not buying one they will pop up at several venders. So... yep I changed my mind not buying one ; / |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 9:34:21 AM EDT
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Patiently waiting..to build a Type 65 clone. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 3:11:29 PM EDT
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In for one if they pass the abuse test Battlefield Vegas' torture tests mean very little in terms of real world performance. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 5:30:06 PM EDT
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Battlefield Vegas' torture tests mean very little in terms of real world performance. |
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Posted: 3/17/2017 4:53:40 AM EDT
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Battlefield Vegas' torture tests mean very little in terms of real world performance. V/R Ron |
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Posted: 3/18/2017 1:59:13 PM EDT
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I've never said that I'm trying to provide "real world performance". I am just providing the results that I get from MY range and how MY weapons handle it. My whole point in starting this to help the guy/gal that's on a limited budget to decide what's best for them. V/R Ron |
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Posted: 3/18/2017 2:23:36 PM EDT
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These still vaporware I take it?
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Posted: 3/18/2017 3:42:59 PM EDT
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Battlefield Vegas' torture tests mean very little in terms of real world performance. While BV may not be very worse case scenario ... it is a very real world example. |
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Posted: 3/19/2017 6:00:17 PM EDT
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These still vaporware I take it? Something doesn't seem right. Why isn't there any advertising for these? I'd expect advertising 6mo to a year before they become available to the public. It doesn't add up. Normally a company intends to make a profit, maybe Wolf just decided to bring these to market at cost for fun. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 12:06:34 AM EDT
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Possibly. Something doesn't seem right. Why isn't there any advertising for these? I'd expect advertising 6mo to a year before they become available to the public. It doesn't add up. Normally a company intends to make a profit, maybe Wolf just decided to bring these to market at cost for fun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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These still vaporware I take it? Something doesn't seem right. Why isn't there any advertising for these? I'd expect advertising 6mo to a year before they become available to the public. It doesn't add up. Normally a company intends to make a profit, maybe Wolf just decided to bring these to market at cost for fun. They ARE advertising them, they are running full page ads in print publications which is not cheap. They will be out shortly, Wolf has very close ties to the Taiwanese and they just want to make sure everything is right so customers are happy. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 7:41:38 AM EDT
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Battlefield Vegas' torture tests mean very little in terms of real world performance. And with that volume of rounds fired daily they are putting a significant amount of stress on those weapons. Ive seen low quality AR failing during a simple 300 rounds competition.. And those guns were safe queen well lubed etc.. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 9:49:02 PM EDT
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They are not vaporware. They ARE advertising them, they are running full page ads in print publications which is not cheap. They will be out shortly, Wolf has very close ties to the Taiwanese and they just want to make sure everything is right so customers are happy. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 11:12:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/21/2017 9:13:08 AM EDT
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Any idea or news if Wolf will be importing the correct rear sight or carry handle for these? If Wolf is listening, these will sell best if they are an exact copy of the military version.
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Posted: 3/21/2017 4:42:53 PM EDT
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i think these would sell well if they are compatible with AR15 sight heights. i'm just looking for a quality piston upper at a nice price, compatible with my existing AR15 eqpt (which also includes Adams Arms already). not a militaria collector.
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