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Posted: 9/29/2016 3:03:22 PM EDT
Does anyone in ARFCOM land have any experience with the specs and quality of this rifle?  Best I can tell the company went out of biz so I can't find any relevant information other than the magnesium lower receiver construction.
A buddy took one in on trade and the sub 5lb weight is intriguing me.
Link Posted: 9/29/2016 4:14:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/29/2016 5:03:22 PM EDT
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I bought one of thier lowers when they come out and I have not had any problems with it. Someone posted if you drop it on concete it will brake into pieces, if it gets to hot it will go up in fames and all kids of bs. I threw in down on the garage floor and didn't brake.

After multiple uppers and triggers it's been a good lower. I will buy another or a complete rifle if I see one.

Mag tactical was bought by fostech. I not sure if they will make the uppers or lowers but if they do I'll buy a set.


Link Posted: 9/29/2016 5:09:44 PM EDT
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Great idea, POOR execution.

Their receivers were castings and the lowers were known to fail.
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Do you have first hand experience or its what you heard? Would like to hear more about the "known to fail"  stories.

The only poor execution on mine was the paint flaking off.
Link Posted: 9/29/2016 6:26:50 PM EDT
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I have two lowers, one is my 3 gun rifle, plenty of mileage. The second I blew up with a reloading error.  It blew up just like any AR lower does.
Link Posted: 9/29/2016 7:36:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/29/2016 9:03:10 PM EDT
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Are those pics of your lower or did you get them off the internet? Either way do you know the story behind those pics?

Link Posted: 9/29/2016 9:25:14 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/29/2016 10:07:13 PM EDT
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Any cast, billet, or forged lower can fail.

"I'm treating mine as if it's manufactured from glass." LOL
Link Posted: 9/29/2016 10:52:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/29/2016 10:58:52 PM EDT
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Any cast, billet, or forged lower can fail.

"I'm treating mine as if it's manufactured from glass." LOL
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I have never seen a properly forged lower fail like I've seen the MAG lowers fail.

They were porous castings. People can gamble their money on a product that has a higher than normal rate of failure compared to other lowers, in order to save a few ounces. Seems like you have a decent one, but you can't deny the preponderance of evidence against your assertions that they are as reliable as a properly machined and dimensioned forged lower.
Link Posted: 9/29/2016 11:15:15 PM EDT
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Do you have first hand experience or its what you heard? Would like to hear more about the "known to fail"  stories.

The only poor execution on mine was the paint flaking off.
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Great idea, POOR execution.

Their receivers were castings and the lowers were known to fail.


Do you have first hand experience or its what you heard? Would like to hear more about the "known to fail"  stories.

The only poor execution on mine was the paint flaking off.


This was my rifle. 3k rounds and it broke. I would love my money back. Registered SBR also.

Link Posted: 9/30/2016 12:02:26 AM EDT
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This was my rifle. 3k rounds and it broke. I would love my money back. Registered SBR also.
<a href="http://s3.photobucket.com/user/ptaylor/media/mag2_zpsmd63cizy.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/ptaylor/mag2_zpsmd63cizy.jpg</a>
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Great idea, POOR execution.

Their receivers were castings and the lowers were known to fail.


Do you have first hand experience or its what you heard? Would like to hear more about the "known to fail"  stories.

The only poor execution on mine was the paint flaking off.


This was my rifle. 3k rounds and it broke. I would love my money back. Registered SBR also.
<a href="http://s3.photobucket.com/user/ptaylor/media/mag2_zpsmd63cizy.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/ptaylor/mag2_zpsmd63cizy.jpg</a>


Sorry to see that. If you don't mind me asking how did that happen?

Maybe fostech is doing a better job at manufacting the lowers.
Link Posted: 9/30/2016 1:07:23 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/30/2016 9:05:51 AM EDT
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This was my rifle. 3k rounds and it broke. I would love my money back. Registered SBR also.
<a href="http://s3.photobucket.com/user/ptaylor/media/mag2_zpsmd63cizy.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/ptaylor/mag2_zpsmd63cizy.jpg</a>
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Great idea, POOR execution.

Their receivers were castings and the lowers were known to fail.


Do you have first hand experience or its what you heard? Would like to hear more about the "known to fail"  stories.

The only poor execution on mine was the paint flaking off.


This was my rifle. 3k rounds and it broke. I would love my money back. Registered SBR also.
<a href="http://s3.photobucket.com/user/ptaylor/media/mag2_zpsmd63cizy.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/ptaylor/mag2_zpsmd63cizy.jpg</a>


SBR? Ouch

I have one, if it breaks oh well, I have plenty of backups.  I got a balios lite to SBR for a light weight option though.

Link Posted: 9/30/2016 9:27:21 AM EDT
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I have a couple of the lowers.  I like the light weight and I haven't broken one yet.  If it does break, I'll pick one of my other 20+ AR's up and keep shooting.
Link Posted: 9/30/2016 10:44:09 AM EDT
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Had one on my boys 458 socom.  Probably had a hundred rounds through it. No problems, but after seeing some failures online, it now lives under the tacsol 22.
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