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Posted: 5/22/2015 11:13:02 AM EDT
Is a DD LPK worth the premium over say a CMMG LPK? If yes how so?
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Quoted: Is a DD LPK worth the premium over say a CMMG LPK? If yes how so? Thanks. View Quote I say no. The DD LPK is $35 higher and all you really gain is a Magpul polymer trigger guard (a $10 item...and I wouldn't want my trigger guard to be plastic). My last 3 builds I've used the Spikes LPK's because I prefer the roll pins NOT anodized. They run $75....usually. The "in the white" roll pins go in so much easier imo. |
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i bought one the other day,
only because it was $20 off, normally i get a spikes LPK, simply because of what the poster above me stated, the roll pins are super easy to place. i haven't installed the LPK yet, i was planning on doing that today. <snip> ETA: this isnt GD sorry. |
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[#3]
yes, the quality of the parts both fit and finish was greater the the other parts I have used
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[#5]
My friend had one that he installed in a Noveske lower. I was not impressed. Horrible trigger, loose/mushy selector, and everything just felt cheap.
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[#6]
I had a DD LPK in one of my rifles, and I switched the trigger out with a ALG QMS..... I think the DD trigger was better than the QMS.
But, I've heard DD LPKs are hit or miss. |
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My first build used a DD LPK.....nice quality and very good mil spec trigger.
2nd build used a mix of PSA and Spikes parts. I would say that the Spikes was similar to DD in quality. Having said that, the premium for the DD is not worth it. Reading the other LPK quality reports here, the following usually get a thumbs up... DD Spikes RRA Stag CMMG In no particular order. |
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I say no. The DD LPK is $35 higher and all you really gain is a Magpul polymer trigger guard (a $10 item...and I wouldn't want my trigger guard to be plastic). My last 3 builds I've used the Spikes LPK's because I prefer the roll pins NOT anodized. They run $75....usually. The "in the white" roll pins go in so much easier imo. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is a DD LPK worth the premium over say a CMMG LPK? If yes how so? Thanks. My last 3 builds I've used the Spikes LPK's because I prefer the roll pins NOT anodized. They run $75....usually. The "in the white" roll pins go in so much easier imo. Hope not, anodizing is for aluminum, not steel |
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Ive used DD spikes, cmmg, and psa I prefer the cmmg. I liked the color coded bags the trigger felt better (even though i replaced it) and its cheaper
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[#11]
Go to a site that sells quality individual parts
Get all the springs, pins, detents, and those things $30(basically a lpk -fcg but its actually cheaper individually with no grip and gaurd) ALG ACT $65 Magpul Trigger gaurd and grip $30 $125 total worth the extra $25 if you are already spending almost $100 With that said I would expect DD to be top notch as far as quality |
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Quoted: Hope not, anodizing is for aluminum, not steel View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is a DD LPK worth the premium over say a CMMG LPK? If yes how so? Thanks. My last 3 builds I've used the Spikes LPK's because I prefer the roll pins NOT anodized. They run $75....usually. The "in the white" roll pins go in so much easier imo. Hope not, anodizing is for aluminum, not steel |
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Well, whatever the black shit is they coat the roll pins with makes them harder to punch in. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is a DD LPK worth the premium over say a CMMG LPK? If yes how so? Thanks. My last 3 builds I've used the Spikes LPK's because I prefer the roll pins NOT anodized. They run $75....usually. The "in the white" roll pins go in so much easier imo. Hope not, anodizing is for aluminum, not steel Well, whatever the black shit is they coat the roll pins with makes them harder to punch in. I couldn't resist, it's the Bud Light Platinum I tell ya, and I'm laughing at what you wrote |
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I put a JP kit in my Noveske. Triggers are very subjective, IMO you're better off buying a kit minus the trigger, and then get what trigger you really want, unless you want something like the WOA with ALG.
http://www.rainierarms.com/jp-lower-parts-kit-minus-trigger-assembly?___SID=U |
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[#16]
Try a a Stag you will like it. Very good mil spec trigger IMO
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[#17]
Personally I like the DD LPK. The entire kit seems to be a better quality products. Atleast with my experience, I have had better luck with the triggers (more of a QC standards) and considering you can get the kits for $80 shipped. So... For a decent (Not spectacular) FACTORY trigger, I don't see a problem.
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[#18]
I bought a complete DD lower. The trigger was horrible. The best bang for the buck I have seen after several builds is a WOA trigger less lpk and a qms trigger.
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[#19]
nope! i bought one a few years ago and while all the components are quality, the trigger is kind of junky. My PSA lower parts kit has a better trigger IMO. Your better off buying something else.
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I put a JP kit in my Noveske. Triggers are very subjective, IMO you're better off buying a kit minus the trigger, and then get what trigger you really want, unless you want something like the WOA with ALG. http://www.rainierarms.com/jp-lower-parts-kit-minus-trigger-assembly?___SID=U View Quote This is exactly what I do. I don't want a mil spec trigger or a2 grip so why pay for them. The JP kits have always worked great. |
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[#22]
I use PSA kits minus the trigger for most of my builds. I really like the Spikes LPK with the stainless roll pins. DD had a decent trigger in the LPK I used from them, and I really liked the CMMG trigger.
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[#25]
I used a DSG lpk with melonite trigger. Smother than my stock 6920 trigger.
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[#26]
I mostly use RRA, and they're very high quality. I use aftermarket selectors and triggers so I can't speak to the quality of their trigger.
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[#28]
Cmmg is the best I have found, the truer was crisp and consistent, price was good too.
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[#29]
Rra, psa dpms.
Never had an issue with any of them. Imo, psa had the best triggers. Txl |
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[#30]
CMMG is garbage. Absolute worst trigger I've ever come across. Trigger guard pin was really tight.
DPMS kits have peened the bolt catch on me, and the selector detent rounded out after use. PSA kits have the finish wear off of the mag catch button pretty quick. I've had some with good trigger, and some with mediocre. WOA w/ the ALG is a good option. DD kits are my preferred LPK. They have been the most consistent. |
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CMMG is garbage. Absolute worst trigger I've ever come across. Trigger guard pin was really tight. DPMS kits have peened the bolt catch on me, and the selector detent rounded out after use. PSA kits have the finish wear off of the mag catch button pretty quick. I've had some with good trigger, and some with mediocre. WOA w/ the ALG is a good option. DD kits are my preferred LPK. They have been the most consistent. View Quote I have yet to come across a decent DD trigger... but its like the lack of consensus of opinion here on this thread any many others... its a trigger lotto when it comes to mil-spec. Don't want to play the lhr odds when your building your own lower and still want a stock trigger go with an ALG variant. |
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[#34]
I find little to no difference between Stag and DD. Both are great.
I opt for Stag 99.9 percent of the time |
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I've dealt with WOA and have an ALG....never put the two together but that would have to be a top-rated combo. Got an out of spec bolt catch with my only PSA kit....pin bore was too small. And I didn't like the non-standard tactile surface on the paddle. You can always tell a PSA kit by the paddle. PSA http://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/540x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/o/bolt_catch.jpg Standard http://www.brownells.com/userdocs/products/p_160308100_2.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The best bang for the buck I have seen after several builds is a WOA trigger less lpk and a qms trigger. I've dealt with WOA and have an ALG....never put the two together but that would have to be a top-rated combo. Got an out of spec bolt catch with my only PSA kit....pin bore was too small. And I didn't like the non-standard tactile surface on the paddle. You can always tell a PSA kit by the paddle. PSA http://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/540x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/o/bolt_catch.jpg Standard http://www.brownells.com/userdocs/products/p_160308100_2.jpg My PSA kit has a standard paddle, not the coarser. That being said, I would assume their LPK's are made with whatever subcontracted parts are avaialAble at the time |
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Quoted: Well, whatever the black shit is they coat the roll pins with makes them harder to punch in. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is a DD LPK worth the premium over say a CMMG LPK? If yes how so? Thanks. My last 3 builds I've used the Spikes LPK's because I prefer the roll pins NOT anodized. They run $75....usually. The "in the white" roll pins go in so much easier imo. Hope not, anodizing is for aluminum, not steel It's because it's a different type of pin, not the coating. Typical roll pins are a small sheet of steel rolled into a close-c shape. Spike's roll pins are coiled and tapered slightly on the ends. They compress much easier and thus install easier. |
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It's because it's a different type of pin, not the coating. Typical roll pins are a small sheet of steel rolled into a close-c shape. Spike's roll pins are coiled and tapered slightly on the ends. They compress much easier and thus install easier. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is a DD LPK worth the premium over say a CMMG LPK? If yes how so? Thanks. My last 3 builds I've used the Spikes LPK's because I prefer the roll pins NOT anodized. They run $75....usually. The "in the white" roll pins go in so much easier imo. Hope not, anodizing is for aluminum, not steel It's because it's a different type of pin, not the coating. Typical roll pins are a small sheet of steel rolled into a close-c shape. Spike's roll pins are coiled and tapered slightly on the ends. They compress much easier and thus install easier. Easy fix for that. Taper them yourself with a belt sander or a sanding drum on a dremel. |
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Quoted: Easy fix for that. Taper them yourself with a belt sander or a sanding drum on a dremel. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Well, whatever the black shit is they coat the roll pins with makes them harder to punch in. It's because it's a different type of pin, not the coating. Typical roll pins are a small sheet of steel rolled into a close-c shape. Spike's roll pins are coiled and tapered slightly on the ends. They compress much easier and thus install easier. Easy fix for that. Taper them yourself with a belt sander or a sanding drum on a dremel. Yeah, it's an easy fix, but I'd rather build a lower without having to tweak stuff. It would suck if you had to de-burr holes, tweak roll pins, etc. every time you built a lower. I'll just stick with Spikes LPK's which have been excellent for me. They're about middle-of-the-road in price. What I ought to do is just order a supply of the various rool pins that Spikes carries and be done with it. |
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Nope.
All the parts used in DD LPK are used in other LPK's DD doesn't manufacture them |
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Sure, but DD probably has people going through the parts and sorting out the good from the bad. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Nope. All the parts used in DD LPK are used in other LPK's DD doesn't manufacture them Sure, but DD probably has people going through the parts and sorting out the good from the bad. DD has stated in the past that they manufacture their own parts, including the lpk minus some miscellaneous small parts that go with the lpk. |
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[#46]
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I put a JP kit in my Noveske. Triggers are very subjective, IMO you're better off buying a kit minus the trigger, and then get what trigger you really want, unless you want something like the WOA with ALG. http://www.rainierarms.com/jp-lower-parts-kit-minus-trigger-assembly?___SID=U View Quote This! I've had good results with Spikes & PSA "Premium" LPK's... Everything goes in nice and snug & even the triggers have been more than decent. ALG's ACT trigger is a very cost effective way to get a solid trigger & LPK in for a substantial value! |
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I've dealt with WOA and have an ALG....never put the two together but that would have to be a top-rated combo. Got an out of spec bolt catch with my only PSA kit....pin bore was too small. And I didn't like the non-standard tactile surface on the paddle. You can always tell a PSA kit by the paddle. PSA http://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/540x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/o/bolt_catch.jpg Standard http://www.brownells.com/userdocs/products/p_160308100_2.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The best bang for the buck I have seen after several builds is a WOA trigger less lpk and a qms trigger. I've dealt with WOA and have an ALG....never put the two together but that would have to be a top-rated combo. Got an out of spec bolt catch with my only PSA kit....pin bore was too small. And I didn't like the non-standard tactile surface on the paddle. You can always tell a PSA kit by the paddle. PSA http://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/540x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/o/bolt_catch.jpg Standard http://www.brownells.com/userdocs/products/p_160308100_2.jpg I had the same problem with a Seekins bolt catch from Rainier... Point being, can happen to anyone with any manufacturer... I actually like the surface on the PSA "Premium" parts kit bolt catch better than a standard Mil-Spec. |
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DD has stated in the past that they manufacture their own parts, including the lpk minus some miscellaneous small parts that go with the lpk. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Nope. All the parts used in DD LPK are used in other LPK's DD doesn't manufacture them Sure, but DD probably has people going through the parts and sorting out the good from the bad. DD has stated in the past that they manufacture their own parts, including the lpk minus some miscellaneous small parts that go with the lpk. This. DD makes 99 percent of their stuff in house now. Even their new grips and stocks. The only parts they outsource now are some screws and what not. |
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[#49]
PSA had their Classic kit with ALG Act trigger on sale a few weeks back for $75 delivered. Great deal imo.
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This is a screaming good deal and it seems relatively unknown. I wish I had known about it before my last build. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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WOA LPK w/ALG ACT. Profit. This is a screaming good deal and it seems relatively unknown. I wish I had known about it before my last build. During the latest panic, WOA was the only place that had LPKs. I picked one up with the ALG combat trigger. I think I paid 65 bucks. I don't exactly remember. |
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