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Anyone have one of the new FN "Military Collector Series" M4s yet? Do you have pictures? I would like to see the roll stamps and UID markings.
I was looking at FN's site though and it lists it as having a 6 position stock, I thought they were supposed to be the same as their military line except for being semi only and having a longer (14.7 inc) barrel with a permanent A2 flash suppressor? Is this a misprint? Shouldn't it be 4 position? |
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It's probably a 6 position. I wouldn't worry about it and if it bothered me I would just swap in a 4 position tube. Thankfully the swap is pretty easy to do.
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"Military Collector Series" is just a gimmick to sell rifles, i'll stick to colt.
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Idk bro....I think they're pretty legit personally.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"Military Collector Series" is just a gimmick to sell rifles, i'll stick to colt. Idk bro....I think they're pretty legit personally.... Yup, the various FN products I carried in the military were always good to me, and I have yet to see a reason why these FN mil series weapons would be considered crap, like many people here insinuate. |
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Yup, the various FN products I carried in the military were always good to me, and I have yet to see a reason why these FN mil series weapons would be considered crap, like many people here insinuate. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"Military Collector Series" is just a gimmick to sell rifles, i'll stick to colt. Idk bro....I think they're pretty legit personally.... Yup, the various FN products I carried in the military were always good to me, and I have yet to see a reason why these FN mil series weapons would be considered crap, like many people here insinuate. they arent crap. uninformed masses, yes. |
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Yup, the various FN products I carried in the military were always good to me, and I have yet to see a reason why these FN mil series weapons would be considered crap, like many people here insinuate. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"Military Collector Series" is just a gimmick to sell rifles, i'll stick to colt. Idk bro....I think they're pretty legit personally.... Yup, the various FN products I carried in the military were always good to me, and I have yet to see a reason why these FN mil series weapons would be considered crap, like many people here insinuate. Yep. |
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Anyone have one of the new FN "Military Collector Series" M4s yet? Do you have pictures? I would like to see the roll stamps and UID markings. I was looking at FN's site though and it lists it as having a 6 position stock, I thought they were supposed to be the same as their military line except for being semi only and having a longer (14.7 inc) barrel with a permanent A2 flash suppressor? Is this a misprint? Shouldn't it be 4 position? View Quote It's their FN-15 with a different barrel length and new roll marks. |
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Quoted: Anyone have one of the new FN "Military Collector Series" M4s yet? Do you have pictures? I would like to see the roll stamps and UID markings. I was looking at FN's site though and it lists it as having a 6 position stock, I thought they were supposed to be the same as their military line except for being semi only and having a longer (14.7 inc) barrel with a permanent A2 flash suppressor? Is this a misprint? Shouldn't it be 4 position? View Quote |
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I am curious about the mag well roll stamp, after using my "Google Fu" I can't find any pics of the left side. I did see one on Instagram, someone posted a pic under the NRA Show but now can't find it now! Also confused about the barrel length, I read someone were early on that they were going to have 14.5" with extended A2 hidder. Also very curious how the "faked" the evil third hole and if it will accept my RDIAS? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Anyone have one of the new FN "Military Collector Series" M4s yet? Do you have pictures? I would like to see the roll stamps and UID markings. I was looking at FN's site though and it lists it as having a 6 position stock, I thought they were supposed to be the same as their military line except for being semi only and having a longer (14.7 inc) barrel with a permanent A2 flash suppressor? Is this a misprint? Shouldn't it be 4 position? Probably just milled to look like a pin, like some people have done with their 80% lowers. |
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I am curious about the mag well roll stamp, after using my "Google Fu" I can't find any pics of the left side. I did see one on Instagram, someone posted a pic under the NRA Show but now can't find it now! Also confused about the barrel length, I read someone were early on that they were going to have 14.5" with extended A2 hidder. Also very curious how the "faked" the evil third hole and if it will accept my RDIAS? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Anyone have one of the new FN "Military Collector Series" M4s yet? Do you have pictures? I would like to see the roll stamps and UID markings. I was looking at FN's site though and it lists it as having a 6 position stock, I thought they were supposed to be the same as their military line except for being semi only and having a longer (14.7 inc) barrel with a permanent A2 flash suppressor? Is this a misprint? Shouldn't it be 4 position? The rollmark is the same as on their military versions. Also, there is no fake third hole. The pictures they referenced are of their military versions that actually are select-fire. |
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Yup, the various FN products I carried in the military were always good to me, and I have yet to see a reason why these FN mil series weapons would be considered crap, like many people here insinuate. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"Military Collector Series" is just a gimmick to sell rifles, i'll stick to colt. Idk bro....I think they're pretty legit personally.... Yup, the various FN products I carried in the military were always good to me, and I have yet to see a reason why these FN mil series weapons would be considered crap, like many people here insinuate. I don't think that they are crap...never handled one. However my understanding (please correct me if I am wrong) is that FN civilian side cannot use any of the TDP that FN military has to build AR's. The 2 parts of the company are supposed to be completely separate. This FN military series should be well built like all FN stuff. I do think they are marketing it in a way so people believe that it is built by the military contractor. "shrug" It is a business after all. |
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The rollmark is the same as on their military versions. Also, there is no fake third hole. The pictures they referenced are of their military versions that actually are select-fire. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Anyone have one of the new FN "Military Collector Series" M4s yet? Do you have pictures? I would like to see the roll stamps and UID markings. I was looking at FN's site though and it lists it as having a 6 position stock, I thought they were supposed to be the same as their military line except for being semi only and having a longer (14.7 inc) barrel with a permanent A2 flash suppressor? Is this a misprint? Shouldn't it be 4 position? The rollmark is the same as on their military versions. Also, there is no fake third hole. The pictures they referenced are of their military versions that actually are select-fire. Ah, I hadn't seen the pics he was referring to, but I was thinking "Wow, they got really detailed if they did that...". Lol |
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I don't think that they are crap...never handled one. However my understanding (please correct me if I am wrong) is that FN civilian side cannot use any of the TDP that FN military has to build AR's. The 2 parts of the company are supposed to be completely separate. This FN military series should be well built like all FN stuff. I do think they are marketing it in a way so people believe that it is built by the military contractor. "shrug" It is a business after all. View Quote That's right. Any company using distributed copies of the TDP must only use it to fulfill government contracts and can not use it to improve their own civilian-marketed product. I still trust FN to turn out a quality product though. |
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That's right. Any company using distributed copies of the TDP must only use it to fulfill government contracts and can not use it to improve their own civilian-marketed product. I still trust FN to turn out a quality product though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't think that they are crap...never handled one. However my understanding (please correct me if I am wrong) is that FN civilian side cannot use any of the TDP that FN military has to build AR's. The 2 parts of the company are supposed to be completely separate. This FN military series should be well built like all FN stuff. I do think they are marketing it in a way so people believe that it is built by the military contractor. "shrug" It is a business after all. That's right. Any company using distributed copies of the TDP must only use it to fulfill government contracts and can not use it to improve their own civilian-marketed product. I still trust FN to turn out a quality product though. yup....they know a thing or 2 about building a good rifle. |
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Quoted: The rollmark is the same as on their military versions. Also, there is no fake third hole. The pictures they referenced are of their military versions that actually are select-fire. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Anyone have one of the new FN "Military Collector Series" M4s yet? Do you have pictures? I would like to see the roll stamps and UID markings. I was looking at FN's site though and it lists it as having a 6 position stock, I thought they were supposed to be the same as their military line except for being semi only and having a longer (14.7 inc) barrel with a permanent A2 flash suppressor? Is this a misprint? Shouldn't it be 4 position? The rollmark is the same as on their military versions. Also, there is no fake third hole. The pictures they referenced are of their military versions that actually are select-fire. Yeah but they have 2 different military roll marks I have seen, the older style and a newer style that strongly resembles current one use on there commercial rifles except slightly larger. My buddy who just retired has/had pics of his rifles over the years and 2 different styles exist. |
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I own a FN15.......Far from junk. Most of the bad stuff that gets said come from people with no first hand knowledge.
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For the record, i never said they were junk, i know they are on par with colt. I was just talking about the name "military collector series" is just a gimmick period, 6 postion tube and 14.7" barrel with permanent fh are far from milspec.
I am thinking about getting the 20" fn though . eta: and yes i have played with fn, believe it or not i served even though i dont have a tank icon . |
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I don't think that the FN rifles are junk, they are a tiny bit better than what is coming out of Windham Weaponry.
They are a good plinking grade rifle but they are not equal to Colt. |
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Lol at the Colt fan boys.
Colt doesn't even use CHF barrels, I'd rather have a PSA with a nice trigger and a Daniel Defense BCG. Oh wait, I do. |
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Any facts to back this up, or are you just giving up your opinion as fact? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't think that the FN rifles are junk, they are a tiny bit better than what is coming out of Windham Weaponry. They are a good plinking grade rifle but they are not equal to Colt. Any facts to back this up, or are you just giving up your opinion as fact? I don't really have opinions... |
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Lol at the Colt fan boys. Colt doesn't even use CHF barrels, I'd rather have a PSA with a nice trigger and a Daniel Defense BCG. Oh wait, I do. Neither do fn military rifles Really? Never would have guessed. Gubment spec and all that I guess. |
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Really? Never would have guessed. Gubment spec and all that I guess. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Lol at the Colt fan boys. Colt doesn't even use CHF barrels, I'd rather have a PSA with a nice trigger and a Daniel Defense BCG. Oh wait, I do. Neither do fn military rifles Really? Never would have guessed. Gubment spec and all that I guess. CHF should be MILSPEC IMO. Might be someday. I know it is for the 240 and/or the 249 |
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I don't think that the FN rifles are junk, they are a tiny bit better than what is coming out of Windham Weaponry. They are a good plinking grade rifle but they are not equal to Colt. Any facts to back this up, or are you just giving up your opinion as fact? I don't really have opinions... And apparently no facts either. |
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For the record, i never said they were junk, i know they are on par with colt. I was just talking about the name "military collector series" is just a gimmick period, 6 postion tube and 14.7" barrel with permanent fh are far from milspec. I am thinking about getting the 20" fn though . eta: and yes i have played with fn, believe it or not i served even though i dont have a tank icon . View Quote I don't think it is a gimmick, it is what people have requested from them. I don't blame them for following up on it. I don't have a tank icon, a LE badge icon, firearm instructor icon, or a NRA icon either. It doesn't change that I'm prior service, LE, a firearm instructor/ armorer, and life time NRA member. I see no reason to send my personal info in to this or any other website. |
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Quoted: Idk bro....I think they're pretty legit personally.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: "Military Collector Series" is just a gimmick to sell rifles, i'll stick to colt. Idk bro....I think they're pretty legit personally.... FN aint a company like DPMS. They're arguably the best arms company in the world |
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Are these even available yet?
I have been wanting a basic m4. Seems like this one would take the hassle out of parting one together. |
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It's their FN-15 with a different barrel length and new roll marks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Anyone have one of the new FN "Military Collector Series" M4s yet? Do you have pictures? I would like to see the roll stamps and UID markings. I was looking at FN's site though and it lists it as having a 6 position stock, I thought they were supposed to be the same as their military line except for being semi only and having a longer (14.7 inc) barrel with a permanent A2 flash suppressor? Is this a misprint? Shouldn't it be 4 position? It's their FN-15 with a different barrel length and new roll marks. This. Not made on the same lines as .mil FNs. |
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I don't think that the FN rifles are junk, they are a tiny bit better than what is coming out of Windham Weaponry. They are a good plinking grade rifle but they are not equal to Colt. Any facts to back this up, or are you just giving up your opinion as fact? I don't really have opinions... And apparently no facts either. Here are some facts, it is not legally possible for FN to build an AR15 that is equal to Colt. Legally they could have made a better rifle than Colt but since we are seeing things like end plates that are not staked and their receiver extensions/buffer tubes are not forged it appears that FN has chosen the lesser quality route. |
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Are the FN rifles even out for sale yet? If so, What's the street price on them?
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Here are some facts, it is not legally possible for FN to build an AR15 that is equal to Colt. Legally they could have made a better rifle than Colt but since we are seeing things like end plates that are not staked and their receiver extensions/buffer tubes are not forged it appears that FN has chosen the lesser quality route. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't think that the FN rifles are junk, they are a tiny bit better than what is coming out of Windham Weaponry. They are a good plinking grade rifle but they are not equal to Colt. Any facts to back this up, or are you just giving up your opinion as fact? I don't really have opinions... And apparently no facts either. Here are some facts, it is not legally possible for FN to build an AR15 that is equal to Colt. Legally they could have made a better rifle than Colt but since we are seeing things like end plates that are not staked and their receiver extensions/buffer tubes are not forged it appears that FN has chosen the lesser quality route. Why "it is not legally possible for FN to build an AR15 that is equal to Colt?" |
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The one thing Ive learned since purchasing my FN15 is that Colt guys LOVE their rifles.......its a losing battle trying to discuss anything,
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Why "it is not legally possible for FN to build an AR15 that is equal to Colt?" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Any facts to back this up, or are you just giving up your opinion as fact? I don't really have opinions... And apparently no facts either. Here are some facts, it is not legally possible for FN to build an AR15 that is equal to Colt. Legally they could have made a better rifle than Colt but since we are seeing things like end plates that are not staked and their receiver extensions/buffer tubes are not forged it appears that FN has chosen the lesser quality route. Why "it is not legally possible for FN to build an AR15 that is equal to Colt?" FN has the TDP but is not legally allowed to use it. They could go beyond the spec in some areas. Barrel steel, CHF etc. |
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Idk bro....I think they're pretty legit personally.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"Military Collector Series" is just a gimmick to sell rifles, i'll stick to colt. Idk bro....I think they're pretty legit personally.... You may know this will these lowers be clone correct for the MK12 and MK18 builds if so I think I may have to pick up a few. |
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You may know this will these lowers be clone correct for the MK12 and MK18 builds if so I think I may have to pick up a few. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"Military Collector Series" is just a gimmick to sell rifles, i'll stick to colt. Idk bro....I think they're pretty legit personally.... You may know this will these lowers be clone correct for the MK12 and MK18 builds if so I think I may have to pick up a few. The only mk 12 or mk 18 receivers I've seen have all been Colt, but honestly, I'd rather use FN. I fucking love FN, and I fucking love Colt. So if you build a mk 12 and mk 18 on these receivers and somebody screams not clone correct, tell em to suck a fatty. The FN receivers I've seen on service rifles has been mostly on M16's, and I've seen a few on M4A1's now that they're getting out there. Hard to say if they will ever end up on mk 12s and mk18 in the future though, because I just have no idea lol |
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FN has the TDP but is not legally allowed to use it. They could go beyond the spec in some areas. Barrel steel, CHF etc. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why "it is not legally possible for FN to build an AR15 that is equal to Colt?" FN has the TDP but is not legally allowed to use it. They could go beyond the spec in some areas. Barrel steel, CHF etc. Yep, It was part of the gov't rules FN had to except to gain access to the TDP to build rifles for the gov't. Before FN started up a commercial line of ARs there were a few big threads on why FN didn't have a commercial line of rifles. Those old threads are probably buried somewhere but I can't find them and I can't be the only one that remembers them. The "why" seemed to be common knowledge back then but that knowledge just kinda went "POOF" when FN came out with their commercial line. |
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I have seen the 20" and carbine versions for sale online for a while now unless those are not the same as the one being discussed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Are the FN rifles even out for sale yet? If so, What's the street price on them? I have seen the 20" and carbine versions for sale online for a while now unless those are not the same as the one being discussed. If the lower was laser etched then it's not the same line. I haven't seen these for sale yet |
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I have seen the 20" and carbine versions for sale online for a while now unless those are not the same as the one being discussed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Are the FN rifles even out for sale yet? If so, What's the street price on them? I have seen the 20" and carbine versions for sale online for a while now unless those are not the same as the one being discussed. Those are the FN15 models. In all likelihood, the "Military Collectors" models will be very (very) similar, aside from the markings (and barrel length of the carbine). |
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That's almost the route I went. FN barrel, LMT BCG, Geissele trigger, but I'm sure it's junk to the colt fanboys. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Lol at the Colt fan boys. Colt doesn't even use CHF barrels, I'd rather have a PSA with a nice trigger and a Daniel Defense BCG. Oh wait, I do. That's almost the route I went. FN barrel, LMT BCG, Geissele trigger, but I'm sure it's junk to the colt fanboys. Yep. I continue to catch crap from them just for daring to suggest that an M4 could be made from non Colt parts. One even compared Colts to supermodels and non Colts to meth heads. Yet they call me the unreasonable one. |
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Yep. I continue to catch crap from them just for daring to suggest that an M4 could be made from non Colt parts. One even compared Colts to supermodels and non Colts to meth heads. Yet they call me the unreasonable one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Lol at the Colt fan boys. Colt doesn't even use CHF barrels, I'd rather have a PSA with a nice trigger and a Daniel Defense BCG. Oh wait, I do. That's almost the route I went. FN barrel, LMT BCG, Geissele trigger, but I'm sure it's junk to the colt fanboys. Yep. I continue to catch crap from them just for daring to suggest that an M4 could be made from non Colt parts. One even compared Colts to supermodels and non Colts to meth heads. Yet they call me the unreasonable one. Still?? You have been kicking the shit out of this dead horse, but I have not seen anything since that old thread when you were looking for parts. Did you start another thread in GD or something? |
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Still?? You have been kicking the shit out of this dead horse, but I have not seen anything since that old thread when you were looking for parts. Did you start another thread in GD or something? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Lol at the Colt fan boys. Colt doesn't even use CHF barrels, I'd rather have a PSA with a nice trigger and a Daniel Defense BCG. Oh wait, I do. That's almost the route I went. FN barrel, LMT BCG, Geissele trigger, but I'm sure it's junk to the colt fanboys. Yep. I continue to catch crap from them just for daring to suggest that an M4 could be made from non Colt parts. One even compared Colts to supermodels and non Colts to meth heads. Yet they call me the unreasonable one. Still?? You have been kicking the shit out of this dead horse, but I have not seen anything since that old thread when you were looking for parts. Did you start another thread in GD or something? Yep he started a thread about SOPMOD stocks |
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