I've never seen a bungee in nature.

 

Nice rifle OP, I'm sure you will enjoy it!

I've liked that rifle since the first time I seen it good job OP.

OP don't worry about what people are saying.  At least you bought a quality carbine.  Just start buying ammo and signing up for training classes.

nice but can't put a can on it

Surprised this thread is still here. I've yet to see any real technical aspects related to this boutique rifle.

Less muzzle climb and it just looks so cool!

Its to shove tree limbs in and plants...

Man people sure love to hate around here.. Kinda sad.. Its a nice rifle op. Don't mind the haterlypics here.

Tell me why it's 'a nice rifle.'

What?

 

Duh.  You're supposed to buy the "integrally suppressed" version to compliment it.

I don't hate it.
But I don't really like it either.
No way I'd pay that for a semi auto AR.

Because you can use it with NOD and not wreck your night vision if you can't use a suppressor for one. Plus it has a very sophisticated gassing system that creates little recoil. Plus it is a very well made firearm of quality parts.

No way you'd pay that for a non-semi AR either.

I got a chance to handle WarSport rifles and speak with a rep at the NRA convention.  It is very well made and the fit and finish is out of this world.  

From what I understand WarSport has three builders that build their rifles.  Each builder builds a complete rifle from start to finish.  The build normally takes the builder roughly 12 hours.  If you remove the grip the builder’s mark is on the tang, that way if there is ever a problem they own it to fix. The lower, upper, and carrier group are hand fitted to each rifle.  

The rep told me a bunch of other stuff about the rifle, but, I can remember due to the Cabot Guns floor model which was in the next booth….

A2 flash hiders are free and do a better job.

What is this "sophisticated gassing system?"

Eta: Per Warsport FAQ

Q: Is the LVOA a Gas Piston system?

No. The LVOA – S (SBR, NFA Rules Apply) and LVOA – C (Carbine 14.5 with pinned to 16.2” OAL) are both mid-length DI (Direct Impingement) gas system weapons.

Guess my PSA is cutting edge, too!

Looks like a decent rifle but at that price (not sure if this has been said yet), I'd take an SR15 over it in a heartbeat.

Please elaborate.

WarSport rifles are DI....

ETA: Downloaded the manual. "lubercation" is apparently a word now.

And there is not ONE SINGLE THING special about the super advanced gas system.

It's got a lo-pro gas block, a gas tube and a standard gas key. That's about it.

Are you going to answer my question or not?

Cutting edge mid length gas!

GAME CHANGA

So we've established that the only notable part of this rifle is the perfect fit and finish.  That's kind of a non-issue for those of us that actually use our guns on a regular basis.

They list that it has a 'hand lapped upper,' that's about it for fit/finish.

It's a blackrain upper/lower.

This should cost about half what it does IMO. When SR-15s can still be found for around $2k, this rifle should be a good $500 less than a KAC in my book.

Dude, the upper, BCG, and lower are hand fitted. 1/4 MOA groups shooting full auto are easily achieveable.

There is one? Wow.

This gun was made for instagram, much like everything else they sell.

If the muzzle device wasn't in the handguard I'd say it's a sweet rifle. But for 3 grand, kiss my lily white ass.

KAC SR15.

If you spent more than $600 on an AR you're a total fanboy loser.  My Hesse/Vulcan is far better than any gun out there....  

I've got some time (about 500rds) behind a LVOA-S but don't own one.

Observations
1. Fit and finish are excellent.  Smoother than my KAC SR15 and Noveske out of the box.  (pulling the bolt to the rear).  
2. It's very accurate.   Company is getting sub 1" MOA accuracy.  Before the inter-web commandos tell me about their 1/2" all day long rifle, it's a 30 rd (6 groups of 5 on one target) with 55gr FMJ's.  Load your ammo own ammo for the particular gun and it will do better.   I was able to easily hit 45% IPSC targets at 300m kneeling with 55gr FMJ's.  
3.  Recoil is very low.  Especially with the 12" (11 3/4") gun with it's mid-length gas system.  What other manufacturers are reliably running middy's on 12" guns?  
4.  Flash mitigation - meh.   You will get flash.  I guess I need to shoot one at night with a high speed camera to give a fair comparison.  
5.  The company is making their own barrels (not using blanks, but deep drilling) and they are making barrels for other manufacturers out there.  
6. Salient has a contract to buy the rail from Warsport.  So yes, it's the same rail.
7. I can't suppress it.  I also can't suppress my 3-gun rifle with the brake I run on it.  I'm not trying to be quiet.  I've got plenty of rifles I do suppress and plenty that I don't.  Talking with one of the Warsport reps, there is an integrally suppressed version coming out in the near future with one of the major suppressor manufacturers making the can.
8. Price.  I have a hard time justifying a $3000 AR.  But I didn't have a hard time justifying a $4.5k SR25 (three times).   I feel as though the price point should be dropped a couple hundred dollars and it would be where I feel comfortable.  But if you want one from the factory, (and not one that is a dealer with one in stock), you'll be waiting several months.   Their demand is high enough that they're staying busy to get the price they're asking.


Bottom line - I'd encourage people to shoot one before making a judgement on it.  It is a great shooting gun.  It just comes down to is the price worth it for the individual.  

That I find highly questionable.

SBR with the can WELDED to the barrel so it's a one stamp gun.

Makes my brain hurt.

Seriously? Fuck all that. I'd rather pay for 3 stamps than have a can welded to my barrel.

Good write up. I personally have never handled one. I notice every single person that has handled one of shot one in this thread are praising it, although they are not necessarily saying they would buy it for the price. Most of those that are bashing it have never shot one. Much like the salient arms thread a few weeks back. OP I hope you enjoy your rifle and I hope to shoot one next to me sr-15 some time.

*whooosh*

You need to get out more.

Great write up.

I still haven't shot mine yet but I'm glad somebody was able to put a honest opinion and experience about the rifle out here. Going to try to get out and shoot mine this weekend again.

I seen that Salient Arms rifle from that thread the other day on Gun Broker so he either didn't like it or he needed the money.

I have a question on your line 2...so at 100 yds with your six groups of five with 55g, what was the MOA? Thank you. I think they're nice guns, wish I could shoot one.

That's it??  LOL  1/4 MOA with a full auto rifle??  Anyone else here think that's realistic??  Even in the hands of a "Super Operator"???

Some of you guys really need to check your sarcasm meter.

The poster who made that comment was making a joke.

It. Was. A. Joke.

Wow...lol.  Guess I need a little more sleep.  Well at least I didn't buy very expensive bungee cords.

Happens to the best of us!

Don't knock the bungees - they really help out with natural elements and can add up to $300 resale. Make sure you order the matching or complementary color palette for your "custom fitted" Magpul furniture. Color palette coordination helps a rifle pop on Instagram and is required for any work involving  Japanese photogs!

Overall average was .87     That was with an Atlas bipod and a rear bag.     I had one 5rd group that was just at 1/2".    

Just saw this they are selling Link

So for $825 you get a complete upper minus bcg and CH. By comparison they sell complete uppers for $1950 and difference is they are assembled, pin/welded comp, BCG, CH, bungee, spring, buffer and some bolt saver thing.

Seems hard to imagine someone would pay an extra $1,125 just to have it assembled and a raptor CH ($70 on sale), BCG ($120 thinking spikes BCG on regular sale) and a buffer and spring ($40 maybe). Pin and weld on comp would cost some amount.

If all the special work for the claimed smooth flat soft shooting AR is in the upper then it's wild to think you're paying almost 2k just for their assembled lower if you get the LVOA-C at $3,050 vs their special deal kit at $825.

I've never shot an LVOA but curious what id be missing (if anything) if I got the kit and put it on a SBR lower to save pin/weld cost.

There is seriously nothing special about it. It's a 16inch midlength upper.

A fool and his gold.