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Posted: 5/15/2016 11:16:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d13s3l:
have you tried the norgon? do you like the KA better? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d13s3l:
Originally Posted By Hanz:
I think I've settled on this configuration: <a href="https://flic.kr/p/GM1jNw" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/26763576290_2e333cd307_h.jpg</a>Ares SCR ASA RMR by Doug Hansen, on Flickr The Knights Armament Ambi Mag release really improved the controls for me. have you tried the norgon? do you like the KA better? Pushing the release with the thumb of the hand that's stripping the mag? |
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Posted: 5/15/2016 11:52:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hanz:
I think I've settled on this configuration: <a href="https://flic.kr/p/GM1jNw" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/26763576290_2e333cd307_h.jpg</a>Ares SCR ASA RMR by Doug Hansen, on Flickr The Knights Armament Ambi Mag release really improved the controls for me. That looks great   Centurion rail?
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Posted: 5/15/2016 11:56:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hanz:
I think I've settled on this configuration: <a href="https://flic.kr/p/GM1jNw" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/26763576290_2e333cd307_h.jpg</a>Ares SCR ASA RMR by Doug Hansen, on Flickr The Knights Armament Ambi Mag release really improved the controls for me. damn, that is nice looking |
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Posted: 5/16/2016 3:00:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NorthPolar:
That looks great Centurion rail?Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NorthPolar:
Originally Posted By Hanz:
I think I've settled on this configuration: <a href="https://flic.kr/p/GM1jNw" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/26763576290_2e333cd307_h.jpg</a>Ares SCR ASA RMR by Doug Hansen, on Flickr The Knights Armament Ambi Mag release really improved the controls for me. That looks great Centurion rail?Looks like a Midwest |
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Posted: 5/16/2016 7:29:20 AM EDT
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Thanks for the compliments - I can't take credit - I'm sure I've copied at least two or three that I've seen posted here
 I haven't seen a Norgon so I can't compare. The Knights really bring the control farther back. Yes, using the thumb to depress the release while stripping the mag. Now the right hand can stay put at the wrist of the stock on trigger/safety duty while the left hand can move all over doing what needs to be done. I like it a lot. Those are CZ EVO Scorpion sights I was able to grab on Ebay after trying for a few months. CZ is selling them in their online store. I know I learned of them here. No cheek riser needed with those sights on the monte carlo stock. They really work well for 'combat style' shooting. Not as precise (with me and my eyes) as good old A2 style dual aperture AR15 sights. But they were plenty good for ringing the reduced IPSC steel targets offhand @ 65 yards. Didn't miss once and that was prior to adding the RMR. On mine, once zeroed, the front sight post has air under the front sight post base but is still retained by the front sight post detent. If the front sight post threads are the same, I will try to swap it with an AR15 post (It's taller) but I will have to shorten the threaded shaft a bit. Then the post will be better 'seated' and still give me the height I need for a 50 yard zero. That's a Midwest Lightweight Rail. I like it a lot but I did add a GG&G 45* adapter so I can mount a Surefire Scout Light where I like it. That rail really keeps unnecessary weight of the carbine. It's not as robust as a LaRue - but, I don't need it to be. I started fiddling with mounting a sling on it. The M.I. Rail makes the front easy - I have a buttstock sling mount on the rear currently but the monte carlo makes it less secure. I may try modding it with flush cups and lots and lots of epoxy  |
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Posted: 5/16/2016 3:20:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hanz:
Thanks for the compliments - I can't take credit - I'm sure I've copied at least two or three that I've seen posted here
I haven't seen a Norgon so I can't compare. The Knights really bring the control farther back. Yes, using the thumb to depress the release while stripping the mag. Now the right hand can stay put at the wrist of the stock on trigger/safety duty while the left hand can move all over doing what needs to be done. I like it a lot. Those are CZ EVO Scorpion sights I was able to grab on Ebay after trying for a few months. CZ is selling them in their online store. I know I learned of them here. No cheek riser needed with those sights on the monte carlo stock. They really work well for 'combat style' shooting. Not as precise (with me and my eyes) as good old A2 style dual aperture AR15 sights. But they were plenty good for ringing the reduced IPSC steel targets offhand @ 65 yards. Didn't miss once and that was prior to adding the RMR. On mine, once zeroed, the front sight post has air under the front sight post base but is still retained by the front sight post detent. If the front sight post threads are the same, I will try to swap it with an AR15 post (It's taller) but I will have to shorten the threaded shaft a bit. Then the post will be better 'seated' and still give me the height I need for a 50 yard zero. That's a Midwest Lightweight Rail. I like it a lot but I did add a GG&G 45* adapter so I can mount a Surefire Scout Light where I like it. That rail really keeps unnecessary weight of the carbine. It's not as robust as a LaRue - but, I don't need it to be. I started fiddling with mounting a sling on it. The M.I. Rail makes the front easy - I have a buttstock sling mount on the rear currently but the monte carlo makes it less secure. I may try modding it with flush cups and lots and lots of epoxy
I'll post pics of mine when I get home but you don't need epoxy, just the IWC flush cup for the Trpy rails and a drill bit. |
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Posted: 5/16/2016 7:24:31 PM EDT
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Nice gat. What happened to your bolt release?
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WI, USA
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Posted: 5/16/2016 8:03:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NickOTime]
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hanz:
I think I've settled on this configuration: <a href="https://flic.kr/p/GM1jNw" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/26763576290_2e333cd307_h.jpg</a>Ares SCR ASA RMR by Doug Hansen, on Flickr The Knights Armament Ambi Mag release really improved the controls for me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hanz:
I think I've settled on this configuration: <a href="https://flic.kr/p/GM1jNw" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/26763576290_2e333cd307_h.jpg</a>Ares SCR ASA RMR by Doug Hansen, on Flickr The Knights Armament Ambi Mag release really improved the controls for me. Digging your set up man. I went back to my CZ Evo irons as well. I also have a spare Insight MRDS and Burris FF 3 laying around from my Block II/ MK18 parts bin that I may have to mount like you did. (Probably putting the Vortex on my Block II and going miniRecce) For some reason I really like the CZ sights. Can you still see the irons through the MRDS you have mounted? Is it a Trijicon? Looks beautiful. ETA: I was also using the GG&G mount you have on one of my other builds, but have recently switched over to the Inforce Haley Strategic mount of the same variety and have to admit I like it a little bit more. It has a slightly lower/closer to rail profile than the GG&G. However I might give GG&G slight edge in build quality. Just my .02 on the mount, still looks good and functions just fine. Originally Posted By gadgetguy1288:
Heres some more pictures of mine, been posted in this thread before but we need more pictures!! ASA side charging upper ARP 14,5" 6.8spc upper Centurion 12" CMR Surefire 6.8FH, p/w <a href="http://s166.photobucket.com/user/gadgetguy1288/media/Gun%20Stuff/DSCF2896_zpsmuef50cg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u110/gadgetguy1288/Gun%20Stuff/DSCF2896_zpsmuef50cg.jpg</a> Here's a picture of the QD socket in the stock, just opened up the rear of the stock to check for clearance and drilled the hole. the IWC qd socket is held on by a retainer ring on the back side. <a href="http://s166.photobucket.com/user/gadgetguy1288/media/Gun%20Stuff/DSCF2877_zpsetbg8llp.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u110/gadgetguy1288/Gun%20Stuff/DSCF2877_zpsetbg8llp.jpg</a> Ambi-catch(Norgon) and extended mag release(BAD) <a href="http://s166.photobucket.com/user/gadgetguy1288/media/Gun%20Stuff/IMG_2842_zpslgjxoubk.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u110/gadgetguy1288/Gun%20Stuff/IMG_2842_zpslgjxoubk.jpg</a> <a href="http://s166.photobucket.com/user/gadgetguy1288/media/Gun%20Stuff/IMG_2841_zpsslhwjazj.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u110/gadgetguy1288/Gun%20Stuff/IMG_2841_zpsslhwjazj.jpg</a> I love my Norgon ambi. I have some of my other builds as well. Good piece of kit. Also what Backbencher said. Did you find you didn't need the bolt release or just take pics before you had the piece of kit? Maybe I'll take some pics this weekend. I have been thinking of rattle canning mine....... Not quite sure though.
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Posted: 5/16/2016 10:33:31 PM EDT
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Old pics I guess, Its on there now, lol. I also ordered an oversized paddle from BAD to go with the larger mag release, but the paddle didn't fit with the upper. :(
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Posted: 5/16/2016 10:46:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HLS30]
[#11]
Does anyone make a decent bolt on recoil pad? I need to extend my lop.
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Posted: 5/17/2016 7:14:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NickOTime: Digging your set up man. I went back to my CZ Evo irons as well. I also have a spare Insight MRDS and Burris FF 3 laying around from my Block II/ MK18 parts bin that I may have to mount like you did. (Probably putting the Vortex on my Block II and going miniRecce) For some reason I really like the CZ sights. Can you still see the irons through the MRDS you have mounted? Is it a Trijicon? Looks beautiful. ETA: I was also using the GG&G mount you have on one of my other builds, but have recently switched over to the Inforce Haley Strategic mount of the same variety and have to admit I like it a little bit more. It has a slightly lower/closer to rail profile than the GG&G. However I might give GG&G slight edge in build quality. Just my .02 on the mount, still looks good and functions just fine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NickOTime: Originally Posted By Hanz: I think I've settled on this configuration: <a href="https://flic.kr/p/GM1jNw" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/26763576290_2e333cd307_h.jpg</a>Ares SCR ASA RMR by Doug Hansen, on Flickr The Knights Armament Ambi Mag release really improved the controls for me. Digging your set up man. I went back to my CZ Evo irons as well. I also have a spare Insight MRDS and Burris FF 3 laying around from my Block II/ MK18 parts bin that I may have to mount like you did. (Probably putting the Vortex on my Block II and going miniRecce) For some reason I really like the CZ sights. Can you still see the irons through the MRDS you have mounted? Is it a Trijicon? Looks beautiful. ETA: I was also using the GG&G mount you have on one of my other builds, but have recently switched over to the Inforce Haley Strategic mount of the same variety and have to admit I like it a little bit more. It has a slightly lower/closer to rail profile than the GG&G. However I might give GG&G slight edge in build quality. Just my .02 on the mount, still looks good and functions just fine. <SNIP>  Thanks for the tip on the Inforce Haley Strategic mount, I do wish the GG&G was a bit lower & closer. |
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Posted: 5/20/2016 8:24:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HLS30:
Does anyone make a decent bolt on recoil pad? I need to extend my lop. LIMBSAVER |
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Posted: 5/22/2016 9:47:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher:
Nice gat. What happened to your bolt release? IIRC the bolt release is an option in the gen 1 lower. It must be purchased separately. |
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Posted: 5/22/2016 12:08:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Moondog:
IIRC the bolt release is an option in the gen 1 lower. It must be purchased separately. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Moondog:
Originally Posted By backbencher:
Nice gat. What happened to your bolt release? IIRC the bolt release is an option in the gen 1 lower. It must be purchased separately. gadgetguy's pics are out of order (chronologically), so the catch is there in the first one, but gone in the third one. That's what backbencher was referring to. |
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Posted: 5/22/2016 8:00:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By j-ro:
LIMBSAVER Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By j-ro:
Originally Posted By HLS30:
Does anyone make a decent bolt on recoil pad? I need to extend my lop. LIMBSAVER Ended up ordering one of these from Amazon, Ill let you guys know how it fits. 
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WI, USA
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Posted: 5/23/2016 1:53:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: NickOTime]
[#17]
Potato pics:
My first time rattle can job. I got a little lazy on taping off the sights and flash light ends. I just put a Burris Fast Fire 3 on it too, but will have to get some of those pics up tomorrow. |
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Posted: 5/23/2016 7:11:21 PM EDT
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I dig it dude, turned out nice.
I finally ordered my SCR lower this last week. |
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Posted: 5/23/2016 7:27:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NickOTime: Potato pics: http://i.imgur.com/IQUvNkd.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MW15Pqy.jpg My first time rattle can job. I got a little lazy on taping off the sights and flash light ends. I just put a Burris Fast Fire 3 on it too, but will have to get some of those pics up tomorrow.  I only skimmed the thread, so could you give a description of parts if you don't mind. |
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Posted: 5/23/2016 7:28:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NickOTime:
Potato pics: http://i.imgur.com/IQUvNkd.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MW15Pqy.jpg My first time rattle can job. I got a little lazy on taping off the sights and flash light ends. I just put a Burris Fast Fire 3 on it too, but will have to get some of those pics up tomorrow. That's your 13.7" right? That looks amazing. |
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Posted: 5/23/2016 8:41:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NickOTime]
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Hey guys thanks for the diggs so far. I will post some specs on her later. I'm a little busy right now but figured I'd post my very Hans inspired sight set up. Burris Fast Fire 3. Another phone pic:
ETA: Rough Parts List: ARES Short profile sporter stock lower with upgraded BHO 13.7" Hanson Middy Profile Ballistic's Advantage barrel pinned to 16" with a B.E. Meyers flash hider VLTOR VIS Monolithic rifle length upper(12.XX") didn't necessarily need to use a Mono upper on it but wanted to be a "special snowflake" J.P. Yellow trigger spring Norgon Ambi Mag Release CZ Scorpion front and rear sights Raptor CH Surefire Scout 600 in a H.S. offset mount Gear Sector short VG, used more as a hand stop Noveske K-9 barrier brace KAC Panels Blue Force Gear sling attatchment point on the rail Burris Fast Fire III on an Insight mount 10 Round magazine, more so for looks USGI either overstock or repro sling Tango Down Rear sling loop(I think....) Think that about covers it. I did used to have a Vortex Razor II 1-6 on it. But i felt it was kind of clunky and as I stated earlier I kind of enjoy the irons on this one. Moving the 1-6 over to my Block II project with a Bipod etc... Also sorry for such a ginormous pic. |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 9:51:32 PM EDT
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Where is everyone getting the newer CZ lpa sights from?
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Posted: 5/24/2016 10:09:24 PM EDT
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i was looking at these then decided on an SU16c from KelTec. similar, more affordable, more neato features.
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Posted: 5/26/2016 3:14:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NickOTime: Potato pics: http://i.imgur.com/IQUvNkd.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MW15Pqy.jpg My first time rattle can job. I got a little lazy on taping off the sights and flash light ends. I just put a Burris Fast Fire 3 on it too, but will have to get some of those pics up tomorrow. How do you like the sights? |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 5:18:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HLS30: Where is everyone getting the newer CZ lpa sights from? |
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Posted: 5/26/2016 5:51:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NickOTime]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hanz:
Sweet! I love rattle canned guns. How do you like the sights? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hanz:
Originally Posted By NickOTime:
Potato pics: http://i.imgur.com/IQUvNkd.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MW15Pqy.jpg My first time rattle can job. I got a little lazy on taping off the sights and flash light ends. I just put a Burris Fast Fire 3 on it too, but will have to get some of those pics up tomorrow. How do you like the sights? I am really liking not only the sight picture, but the added "handling" with the boat anchor of a variable off. The MRDS adds that little bit of what was missing from the irons only set up. Thanks for the idea, don't know why I didn't think of that combo on this gun seeing as I was using it on a Block II and a pistol AK I have. I think I was wanting to run this gun in a Mini Recceish configuration and although it did a great job at it I enjoy it more so as an intermediate carbine. Also as to where I got my CZ sights, I too got them off Ebay. I thought I was getting a screaming deal on mine and then realized I had purchased mine through a UK vendor...... Them shipping charges....
I think you can order directly online from CZ but you need to make a profile on their website. |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 12:35:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hanz:
I found them on Ebay but it looks like CZ-USA has them available for sale on their website. https://shop.cz-usa.com/ProductDetail/19370_Sight-Set-Evo-And-Bren Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hanz:
Originally Posted By HLS30:
Where is everyone getting the newer CZ lpa sights from? https://shop.cz-usa.com/ProductDetail/19370_Sight-Set-Evo-And-Bren I made an account and used the save15 code, I ended up getting a better price on eBay.
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Posted: 5/27/2016 1:48:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HLS30:
I made an account and used the save15 code, I ended up getting a better price on eBay.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HLS30:
Originally Posted By Hanz:
Originally Posted By HLS30:
Where is everyone getting the newer CZ lpa sights from? https://shop.cz-usa.com/ProductDetail/19370_Sight-Set-Evo-And-Bren I made an account and used the save15 code, I ended up getting a better price on eBay.
That's where I got mine for ~$100
It's probably been noted, but the euro scorpions came with the LPA sights, which are much cheaper and have a biiig front dot, while the export Evo3 and the Bren come with the 4-aperture, narrow front post sights that you want. |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 3:26:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RDTCU:
That's where I got mine for ~$100
It's probably been noted, but the euro scorpions came with the LPA sights, which are much cheaper and have a biiig front dot, while the export Evo3 and the Bren come with the 4-aperture, narrow front post sights that you want. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RDTCU:
Originally Posted By HLS30:
Originally Posted By Hanz:
Originally Posted By HLS30:
Where is everyone getting the newer CZ lpa sights from? https://shop.cz-usa.com/ProductDetail/19370_Sight-Set-Evo-And-Bren I made an account and used the save15 code, I ended up getting a better price on eBay.
That's where I got mine for ~$100
It's probably been noted, but the euro scorpions came with the LPA sights, which are much cheaper and have a biiig front dot, while the export Evo3 and the Bren come with the 4-aperture, narrow front post sights that you want. I got the Evo3 set. Now I just need to find a dang bolt on recoil pad that will work. Ive tried the Remington 19472 and the Limbsaver 10805 and they are both no-gos. Any one have any suggestions? |
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Posted: 5/31/2016 10:19:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DH2]
[#30]
I kinda wonder what one of these things would look like with a SHRIKE on it....
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Posted: 5/31/2016 12:15:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DH2: I kinda wonder what one of these things would look like with a SHRIKE on it.... It would fit. I'm not entirely sure it would run, as the BCG is different in the Shrike, I believe. |
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Posted: 6/1/2016 12:24:03 AM EDT
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Put a 13'' Matrix Arms keymod rail on today... oh man! Totally changes the gun.
Love it! |
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Posted: 6/1/2016 2:08:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher:
It would fit. I'm not entirely sure it would run, as the BCG is different in the Shrike, I believe. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By DH2: I kinda wonder what one of these things would look like with a SHRIKE on it.... It would fit. I'm not entirely sure it would run, as the BCG is different in the Shrike, I believe. I asked about this a couple times on Ares' facebook page. Didn't even get an acknowledgement of my question either time.  
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Posted: 6/1/2016 10:13:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gadgetguy1288:
I asked about this a couple times on Ares' facebook page. Didn't even get an acknowledgement of my question either time. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gadgetguy1288:
Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By DH2: I kinda wonder what one of these things would look like with a SHRIKE on it.... It would fit. I'm not entirely sure it would run, as the BCG is different in the Shrike, I believe. I asked about this a couple times on Ares' facebook page. Didn't even get an acknowledgement of my question either time. Funnily enough, there is a less expensive belt fed upper, that requires mods to the lower - but I believe uses a standard BCG. That should work. |
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Posted: 6/1/2016 10:03:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HLS30]
[#35]
Whos rifle and what recoil pad? All I need is another inch on my LOP. Story of my life!
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Posted: 6/1/2016 10:37:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HLS30:
Whos rifle and what recoil pad? All I need is another inch on my LOP. Story of my life!
http://i61.tinypic.com/2r5ut83.jpg IIRC it was done up by B&H gun rack in FL(used to be a big dealer for Ares). It's a 9" 300, and there was a video floating around of someone shooting it with a superior as well. |
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Posted: 6/16/2016 9:43:48 AM EDT
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So in the end which side charging uppers work with no modification?
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Posted: 6/16/2016 10:06:34 AM EDT
[#38]
ASA upper is awesome
No modification to the lower necessary, but the BCG has to be modified.
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Posted: 6/16/2016 10:59:53 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HLS30:
Whos rifle and what recoil pad? All I need is another inch on my LOP. Story of my life!
http://i61.tinypic.com/2r5ut83.jpg That looks awesome!! I still need to pull the trigger on one of these lowers. I keep putting it off because I keep finding other guns I want. |
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Posted: 6/16/2016 12:18:33 PM EDT
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Gadget guy, thanks., I am working my way through the posts. I have a stock Ares SCR (very early serial number summer 2014), but I am getting a MC lower in ten days to do a self build. a buddy will help me and I will take my time., Can you point me to where I can find what modification I need for BCG? Do all prospective side charging uppers need that or just some? I see Gibtz and XProducts mentioned. They are a bit less expensive ate 240 and 224 than $350 for the ASA
Anything else for barrel or handguard to watch out for that might be different from AR-15 build? I am going to try and read up as much as possible on this thread but any advise would be helpful |
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Posted: 6/16/2016 12:21:30 PM EDT
[#41]
The Gibzz upper doesn't require any modifications to the BCG.
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Posted: 6/16/2016 1:26:59 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoshAston:
The Gibzz upper doesn't require any modifications to the BCG. Thank you. How about this one I see mentioned, it seems to be on sale: https://www.xproducts.com/x-15-scu-side-charging-ar-upper |
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Posted: 6/16/2016 1:29:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SCRowner:
Thank you. How about this one I see mentioned, it seems to be on sale: https://www.xproducts.com/x-15-scu-side-charging-ar-upper Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SCRowner:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
The Gibzz upper doesn't require any modifications to the BCG. Thank you. How about this one I see mentioned, it seems to be on sale: https://www.xproducts.com/x-15-scu-side-charging-ar-upper Think those are identical to Gibbz with the addition of the side rail. |
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Posted: 6/16/2016 1:33:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SCRowner:
Thank you. How about this one I see mentioned, it seems to be on sale: https://www.xproducts.com/x-15-scu-side-charging-ar-upper Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SCRowner:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
The Gibzz upper doesn't require any modifications to the BCG. Thank you. How about this one I see mentioned, it seems to be on sale: https://www.xproducts.com/x-15-scu-side-charging-ar-upper X-Products, NFA, Gibzz are all made by the same company. I don't know that it's Gibzz making them, they were just the first to market them. If it looks like the Gibzz, it's made by the same company. There are at least 3 other distinct non-reciprocating side chargers, Matrix Arms, JP, and ASA. |
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Posted: 6/16/2016 2:50:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RDTCU:
Think those are identical to Gibbz with the addition of the side rail. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RDTCU:
Originally Posted By SCRowner:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
The Gibzz upper doesn't require any modifications to the BCG. Thank you. How about this one I see mentioned, it seems to be on sale: https://www.xproducts.com/x-15-scu-side-charging-ar-upper Think those are identical to Gibbz with the addition of the side rail. Thanks so much to everyone responding. I notice the Xproducts one says: The X-15 SCU unlike other side charging uppers that place the charging handle in line with the bolt, instead its operation is elevated to work with the modified cam pin. My main purpose in side charger is to help deal with scope being low and far back on my firs SCR affecting somewhat my use of normal charger.( I use a scope due to half correction monovisoon in my dominant right eye which is perfect for pistol but requires scope for rife. ). this is the scope I have on my original and I love it, but it is far back on the SCR and low: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/547415/burris-mtac-rifle-scope-30mm-tube-1-4x-24mm-illuminated-reticle-with-fastfire-iii-red-dot-3-moa-dot-and-pepr-mount-matte?cm_vc=ProductFinding does this mean the xproduct's operation would be higher up and possibly less of a benefit in my case than a side charger that is not "elevated"? |
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Posted: 6/16/2016 8:31:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gadgetguy1288:
I sent ny BCG to ASA to have the mod done. It's just a notch cut in the front left side of the carrier face for the handle catch. When I bought mine it was only $200, and the mod was free(maybe it was during a sale, Idk). I went with ASA cause I wanted a brass deflector and dust cover, which the gibbz and x-products don't have. According to research I did, the NFA upper is made in house by them, very similar design to Gibbz and X-products, but slightly different. Not sure who makes the other two though. Have to be careful with the Gibbz/x-products though because the early(gen 1, I guess it would be) do not work. The upper has to have a cut out at the rear that, on an ar-15/m-16 that space is utilized by the M-16 FCG, but not on a standard AR-15 fcg. The SCR uses that space for part of its trigger assembly, the gen 1 uppers didn't have that cut out. Pic below is a gen 1 gibbz on the left, and a spikes standard upper on the right, arrow is pointing to the cut out I was talking about Gadgetguy. thank you very much, I see deflector and cover are beneficial. i think that is a great option for a lot of people, Still in my case a mod o the carrier group to something that I assume is neither normal for the AR or normal for the SCR adds a complication that may not be best for me. If I have one normal Ares upper and one Ares with side charging upper if I ever needed to swap around any parts I maybe best off with the BCG the same. proprietary is added complication, proprietary and modified is another level. I do like to consider what will go on with my heirs where they may be able to find a spare Ares BCG or or a gunsmith would be able to research it, and a modified version of an already proprietary group adds another complexity -- at least for me |
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Posted: 6/17/2016 9:15:08 AM EDT
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So what would be the feasibility of throwing an SIG MCX upper on one of these lowers? You wouldn't have to swap bolt carriers and it gives you the flexibility to use a piston system.
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Posted: 6/17/2016 3:37:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/17/2016 7:01:09 PM EDT
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Gawd, it's perfet
how's the cheekweld with those irons |
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