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I love my Geissele triggers but I REALLY love me AR Gold trigger
I need to stop by LaRue and see if they will let me play with one of theirs since im local but I highly doubt its any better than a Geissele or AR Gold. I could be wrong. |
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hee, hee, "nutnfancy"
not sure if this guys trigger is any good but he makes a hell of a beer opener and it was even a gift. BTW im not yet a customer. nutnfancy,lol! |
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I wouldn't be putting $250 match grade triggers in "blasting" or everyday AR's. Not meant for that IMHO. Unless you're shooting a submoa gun I dont see the point. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'd love to compare a Larue trigger to my SSA-E, I really would. I have 5 SSAE triggers, 1 SSA, and just sold my rifle with the DMR. Would be interested to see how the Larue stacks up. Too bad there is no trigger rental company. I would drop the Larue in my 5.45 rifle and blast out a spam can. ETA: real test would be if it could survive THE swamp I doubt you would notice a difference with that type of shooting.... well you will notice the unique trigger face. So if there is no difference why would I want it over a SSAE. I use the SSAE in my 5.45, 5.56 and 7.62. Serious question. What "kind of shooting" would it make a difference? I've using my 5.45 for everything tom rapid fire to 300yard "precision" practice. I wouldn't be putting $250 match grade triggers in "blasting" or everyday AR's. Not meant for that IMHO. Unless you're shooting a submoa gun I dont see the point. I have geissele triggers in all my ARs so I guess I don't understand your point. |
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The SSF has been SOCOM approved so it's being fielded in plenty of "non-precision" roles. I have a SSA in my SBR that I beat to hell. It's nice to have the two stage trigger even if I don't plan on sitting on the bench with it.
I'll have to try the MBT for myself before making any judgment. I do enjoy my other LT products and am sure it perpetuates the same quality they are known for. It's great for the consumer to have options. |
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I have geissele triggers in all my ARs so I guess I don't understand your point. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'd love to compare a Larue trigger to my SSA-E, I really would. I have 5 SSAE triggers, 1 SSA, and just sold my rifle with the DMR. Would be interested to see how the Larue stacks up. Too bad there is no trigger rental company. I would drop the Larue in my 5.45 rifle and blast out a spam can. ETA: real test would be if it could survive THE swamp I doubt you would notice a difference with that type of shooting.... well you will notice the unique trigger face. So if there is no difference why would I want it over a SSAE. I use the SSAE in my 5.45, 5.56 and 7.62. Serious question. What "kind of shooting" would it make a difference? I've using my 5.45 for everything tom rapid fire to 300yard "precision" practice. I wouldn't be putting $250 match grade triggers in "blasting" or everyday AR's. Not meant for that IMHO. Unless you're shooting a submoa gun I dont see the point. I have geissele triggers in all my ARs so I guess I don't understand your point. And how many did you purchase? I'm trying to have an honest discussion here about Match grade triggers, and if you received 3-5 of those free from Cola Warrior it skews the discussion here. I see you've been to atleast 2-3, meaning 2-3+ were free. I would probably have SSA-E's in all my AR's if they were free too..... Except maybe one with a single stage. If LaRue gave me enough free triggers to put one in each of my AR's... wouldn't you think its a bit disingenuous to go into a thread where people are asking what trigger to buy... "All my AR's have LaRue triggers"... Yes maybe I'm paying LaRue back with advertising, but its dishonest to the people spending money. |
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I won an MBT on the LaRue giveaway and it's simply the best AR-15 trigger I've ever had. It's more complete then the SSA-E.. the first break is simply a short glide; and the second break is almost instant and is like snapping an ice needle. LaRue manged to make the second stage so short, yet it's 100% controllable. It is kind of hard to explain... but it's simply the best trigger I've ever had. I was at the range and threw 300 rounds down with it in my latest build and it truly bought the rifle to life. The MBT puts you in total control of your rifle and like I said, it's a smooth, VERY light, butter short first stage, the second stage is simply fire.. and the reset is simply top notch. The SSA-E is a great unit; but this is the Rolls Royce of AR-15 triggers. It's really something you have to experience in the flesh. LaRue is the best. I even saw the guys at SHOT show and I got a dillo. View Quote Did you grab a cup of coffee from our coffee gals ? |
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I've been to 2 cola warriors. So 2 free. The rest I've bought which is about 7-10 total. Some well before I knew of cola warrior. I AM actually trying to have a discussion. I'm trying to figure out of there is a better product out there than what I curently use. For example, I'm also a huge KAC fan, but I take out their trigger and replace them with geisseles as well Because I prefer the G.
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I have geissele triggers in all my ARs so I guess I don't understand your point. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I wouldn't be putting $250 match grade triggers in "blasting" or everyday AR's. Not meant for that IMHO. Unless you're shooting a submoa gun I don't see the point. I have geissele triggers in all my ARs so I guess I don't understand your point. +1 Rifles can be blasters and also be precision at the same time. Configure it how You would run it no matter the use. |
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I dont agree with the "range gun use a milspec trigger quote" I have used pleanty of milspec triggers and they suck for the most part, and since they can be affordably replaced with something tons better "ALG" why wouldn't you? I don't even bother when I am building a new gun to consider a plain mil spec trigger. On a different note the gun this will be going in is a general use rifle as in range toy, home defense, SHTF, truck gun etc. It will be a hard use for everything gun. I will not consider a drop in trigger unit cause if something breaks you will have to replace the whole unit. I also don't know if a $250 dollar trigger is exactly practical for the intended role. I don't mind spending $250 if it is, but I would rather pay $200 for a geissele SDC or similar and use the other $50 on ammo if it isn't woth it.
I trust people opinions that have used both and throw in the garbage peoples that have only had one and think they have a reason to give theirs . So to those of you who have given true opinions of the Larue trigger and "other triggers" similiar I appreciate it those who have "Their Favorite one brand" quit wasting peoples time with useless info |
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Did you grab a cup of coffee from our coffee gals ? View Quote Hi Mark!! It was my my first SHOT show (and also my first time in Vegas) and honestly I was pretty nervous/overwhelmed. It was so huge, I was looking for your guys booth for 2-3 hours-- and when I found you guys, I saw Mr. Brent who sent me the winning e-mail notification (which was without a doubt the highlight of the SHOW.) I did not see the coffee gal's but I wish I had Next year, i'm definitely going to get that cup of coffee. I'm sure my second SHOT will be smoother now that I'm familiar with how it goes. PS: The CNC machine that was making the dillos was one of the coolest things i've ever seen. You guys rock, and once again thank you again for this amazing trigger, I will never part ways with it. |
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I trust people opinions that have used both and throw in the garbage peoples that have only had one and think they have a reason to give theirs . So to those of you who have given true opinions of the Larue trigger and "other triggers" similiar I appreciate it those who have "Their Favorite one brand" quit wasting peoples time with useless info View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
I trust people opinions that have used both and throw in the garbage peoples that have only had one and think they have a reason to give theirs . So to those of you who have given true opinions of the Larue trigger and "other triggers" similiar I appreciate it those who have "Their Favorite one brand" quit wasting peoples time with useless info That is generally how all of these threads turn out. I have used the Geissele triggers listed and the LaRue MBT. I haven't used the SD-C that you specifically ask about, but that is supposedly a SSA with the flat trigger. Which I have a SSA. Now as I mentioned before the LaRue will be slightly lighter, but it doesn't move a micron until it breaks, where you can feel the Geissele start to give. Still not sure what I like better though. Quoted:
I dont agree with the "range gun use a milspec trigger quote" I have used pleanty of milspec triggers and they suck for the most part, and since they can be affordably replaced with something tons better "ALG" why wouldn't you? I don't even bother when I am building a new gun to consider a plain mil spec trigger. On a different note the gun this will be going in is a general use rifle as in range toy, home defense, SHTF, truck gun etc. It will be a hard use for everything gun. I will not consider a drop in trigger unit cause if something breaks you will have to replace the whole unit. I also don't know if a $250 dollar trigger is exactly practical for the intended role. I don't mind spending $250 if it is, but I would rather pay $200 for a geissele SDC or similar and use the other $50 on ammo if it isn't woth it. I trust people opinions that have used both and throw in the garbage peoples that have only had one and think they have a reason to give theirs . So to those of you who have given true opinions of the Larue trigger and "other triggers" similiar I appreciate it those who have "Their Favorite one brand" quit wasting peoples time with useless info I dont remember if I used the term milspec, I thought I said single stage but yeah. Everyone acts like every AR needs a $200+ trigger which cant be further from the truth. On a precision rig I'd make it a priority. But for "fun guns", etc, more ammo and practice and better optics will help dramatically. Plus the ALG offerings are a great option, and you can adjust/tune milspec triggers fairly easily too. I personally will never be found with a stock milspec again... lighter springs, or just an ALG... but putting $200 triggers in all of your AR's is a waste IMHO... but if you have the cash.... |
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That is generally how all of these threads turn out. I have used the Geissele triggers listed and the LaRue MBT. I haven't used the SD-C that you specifically ask about, but that is supposedly a SSA with the flat trigger. Which I have a SSA. Now as I mentioned before the LaRue will be slightly lighter, but it doesn't move a micron until it breaks, where you can feel the Geissele start to give. Still not sure what I like better though. I dont remember if I used the term milspec, I thought I said single stage but yeah. Everyone acts like every AR needs a $200+ trigger which cant be further from the truth. On a precision rig I'd make it a priority. But for "fun guns", etc, more ammo and practice and better optics will help dramatically. Plus the ALG offerings are a great option, and you can adjust/tune milspec triggers fairly easily too. I personally will never be found with a stock milspec again... lighter springs, or just an ALG... but putting $200 triggers in all of your AR's is a waste IMHO... but if you have the cash.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I trust people opinions that have used both and throw in the garbage peoples that have only had one and think they have a reason to give theirs . So to those of you who have given true opinions of the Larue trigger and "other triggers" similiar I appreciate it those who have "Their Favorite one brand" quit wasting peoples time with useless info That is generally how all of these threads turn out. I have used the Geissele triggers listed and the LaRue MBT. I haven't used the SD-C that you specifically ask about, but that is supposedly a SSA with the flat trigger. Which I have a SSA. Now as I mentioned before the LaRue will be slightly lighter, but it doesn't move a micron until it breaks, where you can feel the Geissele start to give. Still not sure what I like better though. Quoted:
I dont agree with the "range gun use a milspec trigger quote" I have used pleanty of milspec triggers and they suck for the most part, and since they can be affordably replaced with something tons better "ALG" why wouldn't you? I don't even bother when I am building a new gun to consider a plain mil spec trigger. On a different note the gun this will be going in is a general use rifle as in range toy, home defense, SHTF, truck gun etc. It will be a hard use for everything gun. I will not consider a drop in trigger unit cause if something breaks you will have to replace the whole unit. I also don't know if a $250 dollar trigger is exactly practical for the intended role. I don't mind spending $250 if it is, but I would rather pay $200 for a geissele SDC or similar and use the other $50 on ammo if it isn't woth it. I trust people opinions that have used both and throw in the garbage peoples that have only had one and think they have a reason to give theirs . So to those of you who have given true opinions of the Larue trigger and "other triggers" similiar I appreciate it those who have "Their Favorite one brand" quit wasting peoples time with useless info I dont remember if I used the term milspec, I thought I said single stage but yeah. Everyone acts like every AR needs a $200+ trigger which cant be further from the truth. On a precision rig I'd make it a priority. But for "fun guns", etc, more ammo and practice and better optics will help dramatically. Plus the ALG offerings are a great option, and you can adjust/tune milspec triggers fairly easily too. I personally will never be found with a stock milspec again... lighter springs, or just an ALG... but putting $200 triggers in all of your AR's is a waste IMHO... but if you have the cash.... I like to have a consistent trigger pull across all my rifles. Same reason for a while all my rifles had Sopmod stocks and tango down grips. |
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That is generally how all of these threads turn out. I have used the Geissele triggers listed and the LaRue MBT. I haven't used the SD-C that you specifically ask about, but that is supposedly a SSA with the flat trigger. Which I have a SSA. Now as I mentioned before the LaRue will be slightly lighter, but it doesn't move a micron until it breaks, where you can feel the Geissele start to give. Still not sure what I like better though. I dont remember if I used the term milspec, I thought I said single stage but yeah. Everyone acts like every AR needs a $200+ trigger which cant be further from the truth. On a precision rig I'd make it a priority. But for "fun guns", etc, more ammo and practice and better optics will help dramatically. Plus the ALG offerings are a great option, and you can adjust/tune milspec triggers fairly easily too. I personally will never be found with a stock milspec again... lighter springs, or just an ALG... but putting $200 triggers in all of your AR's is a waste IMHO... but if you have the cash.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I trust people opinions that have used both and throw in the garbage peoples that have only had one and think they have a reason to give theirs . So to those of you who have given true opinions of the Larue trigger and "other triggers" similiar I appreciate it those who have "Their Favorite one brand" quit wasting peoples time with useless info That is generally how all of these threads turn out. I have used the Geissele triggers listed and the LaRue MBT. I haven't used the SD-C that you specifically ask about, but that is supposedly a SSA with the flat trigger. Which I have a SSA. Now as I mentioned before the LaRue will be slightly lighter, but it doesn't move a micron until it breaks, where you can feel the Geissele start to give. Still not sure what I like better though. Quoted:
I dont agree with the "range gun use a milspec trigger quote" I have used pleanty of milspec triggers and they suck for the most part, and since they can be affordably replaced with something tons better "ALG" why wouldn't you? I don't even bother when I am building a new gun to consider a plain mil spec trigger. On a different note the gun this will be going in is a general use rifle as in range toy, home defense, SHTF, truck gun etc. It will be a hard use for everything gun. I will not consider a drop in trigger unit cause if something breaks you will have to replace the whole unit. I also don't know if a $250 dollar trigger is exactly practical for the intended role. I don't mind spending $250 if it is, but I would rather pay $200 for a geissele SDC or similar and use the other $50 on ammo if it isn't woth it. I trust people opinions that have used both and throw in the garbage peoples that have only had one and think they have a reason to give theirs . So to those of you who have given true opinions of the Larue trigger and "other triggers" similiar I appreciate it those who have "Their Favorite one brand" quit wasting peoples time with useless info I dont remember if I used the term milspec, I thought I said single stage but yeah. Everyone acts like every AR needs a $200+ trigger which cant be further from the truth. On a precision rig I'd make it a priority. But for "fun guns", etc, more ammo and practice and better optics will help dramatically. Plus the ALG offerings are a great option, and you can adjust/tune milspec triggers fairly easily too. I personally will never be found with a stock milspec again... lighter springs, or just an ALG... but putting $200 triggers in all of your AR's is a waste IMHO... but if you have the cash.... I totally agree I can't afford a $200 trigger in every gun I can in this one only because of the purpose of the gun and how I want to set it up to be multi function but a $50 or $75 trigger is pretty doable for all of the rest |
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You must not have used the slave pin that it comes with, it makes it very easy. How often are you all taking your triggers in and out? I never take them out, even when cleaning. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If it's a true drop in unit it might be worth looking at. Getting the Hammer installed on the SSA, SSA-E can be very frustrating. You must not have used the slave pin that it comes with, it makes it very easy. How often are you all taking your triggers in and out? I never take them out, even when cleaning. Nope, used the slave pin every time. I've installed 7 SSA-E and 2 Super Scar triggers. The Scar trigger are a snap to install not so with the SSA-E. Some times the hammer slave pin lines up perfectly and it installs on the first try. On other AR's it just seems the receiver geometry makes it very difficult to line up the slave pin on both sides of the receiver. For example on a S&W MP10 the ambi controls necessitates taking out the right hand ambi control. It must be removed by taking out the roll pin before you can get the hammer assembly into position to install. However the longest it has taken me to install the trigger is 15 minutes when things don't line up,correctly with the hammer slave pin. The MP 10 took almost half an hour to install. The lower trigger assembly is very easy to install. |
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The guys at LaRue did me right once, they didn't have too and I wasn't expecting it so they have my business. If ML tells me it is a great trigger well then I believe him.
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I like to have a consistent trigger pull across all my rifles. Same reason for a while all my rifles had Sopmod stocks and tango down grips. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I trust people opinions that have used both and throw in the garbage peoples that have only had one and think they have a reason to give theirs . So to those of you who have given true opinions of the Larue trigger and "other triggers" similiar I appreciate it those who have "Their Favorite one brand" quit wasting peoples time with useless info That is generally how all of these threads turn out. I have used the Geissele triggers listed and the LaRue MBT. I haven't used the SD-C that you specifically ask about, but that is supposedly a SSA with the flat trigger. Which I have a SSA. Now as I mentioned before the LaRue will be slightly lighter, but it doesn't move a micron until it breaks, where you can feel the Geissele start to give. Still not sure what I like better though. Quoted:
I dont agree with the "range gun use a milspec trigger quote" I have used pleanty of milspec triggers and they suck for the most part, and since they can be affordably replaced with something tons better "ALG" why wouldn't you? I don't even bother when I am building a new gun to consider a plain mil spec trigger. On a different note the gun this will be going in is a general use rifle as in range toy, home defense, SHTF, truck gun etc. It will be a hard use for everything gun. I will not consider a drop in trigger unit cause if something breaks you will have to replace the whole unit. I also don't know if a $250 dollar trigger is exactly practical for the intended role. I don't mind spending $250 if it is, but I would rather pay $200 for a geissele SDC or similar and use the other $50 on ammo if it isn't woth it. I trust people opinions that have used both and throw in the garbage peoples that have only had one and think they have a reason to give theirs . So to those of you who have given true opinions of the Larue trigger and "other triggers" similiar I appreciate it those who have "Their Favorite one brand" quit wasting peoples time with useless info I dont remember if I used the term milspec, I thought I said single stage but yeah. Everyone acts like every AR needs a $200+ trigger which cant be further from the truth. On a precision rig I'd make it a priority. But for "fun guns", etc, more ammo and practice and better optics will help dramatically. Plus the ALG offerings are a great option, and you can adjust/tune milspec triggers fairly easily too. I personally will never be found with a stock milspec again... lighter springs, or just an ALG... but putting $200 triggers in all of your AR's is a waste IMHO... but if you have the cash.... I like to have a consistent trigger pull across all my rifles. Same reason for a while all my rifles had Sopmod stocks and tango down grips. Well that's pretty boring. |
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I mean...different barrels, rails and optics but I find things I like and stick to them.
I've recently started exchanging all those sopmods for LWRCI ultra compact and compact stocks |
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I mean...different barrels, rails and optics but I find things I like and stick to them. I've recently started exchanging all those sopmods for LWRCI ultra compact and compact stocks View Quote No. Edit: Ill continue to buy G triggers until one of my friends buys a Larue trigger. Then ill test run it for free and, should I like it more than the G trigger, ill sell my G trigger for a loss and drop more on the Larue. 'tis the way of the black rifle. Of course, if ML wants to float one my way...... I mean we have the same last name...that counts for something. Otherwise, I dont have a dog in the fight. |
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No. Edit: Ill continue to buy G triggers until one of my friends buys a Larue trigger. Then ill test run it for free and, should I like it more than the G trigger, ill sell my G trigger for a loss and drop more on the Larue. 'tis the way of the black rifle. Of course, if ML wants to float one my way...... I mean we have the same last name...that counts for something. Otherwise, I dont have a dog in the fight. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I mean...different barrels, rails and optics but I find things I like and stick to them. I've recently started exchanging all those sopmods for LWRCI ultra compact and compact stocks No. Edit: Ill continue to buy G triggers until one of my friends buys a Larue trigger. Then ill test run it for free and, should I like it more than the G trigger, ill sell my G trigger for a loss and drop more on the Larue. 'tis the way of the black rifle. Of course, if ML wants to float one my way...... I mean we have the same last name...that counts for something. Otherwise, I dont have a dog in the fight. Hey, they named a county off you. |
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I mean...different barrels, rails and optics but I find things I like and stick to them. I've recently started exchanging all those sopmods for LWRCI ultra compact and compact stocks No. Edit: Ill continue to buy G triggers until one of my friends buys a Larue trigger. Then ill test run it for free and, should I like it more than the G trigger, ill sell my G trigger for a loss and drop more on the Larue. 'tis the way of the black rifle. Of course, if ML wants to float one my way...... I mean we have the same last name...that counts for something. Otherwise, I dont have a dog in the fight. Hey, they named a county off you. I'm not following...do tell |
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Oops, LaRue County is in Kentucky. LaRue County, home to the Abraham Lincoln Birthplace National Historic Site, is noted for its warmth and hospitality, as well as its scenic rural setting. |
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Double tap Oops, LaRue County is in Kentucky. LaRue County, home to the Abraham Lincoln Birthplace National Historic Site, is noted for its warmth and hospitality, as well as its scenic rural setting. Larue is your last name Mark.....not his. Still confused |
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Larue is your last name Mark.....not his. Still confused View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Double tap Oops, LaRue County is in Kentucky. LaRue County, home to the Abraham Lincoln Birthplace National Historic Site, is noted for its warmth and hospitality, as well as its scenic rural setting. Larue is your last name Mark.....not his. Still confused So much for making a cute quip ... I mean we have the same last name...that counts for something. |
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Double tap Oops, LaRue County is in Kentucky. LaRue County, home to the Abraham Lincoln Birthplace National Historic Site, is noted for its warmth and hospitality, as well as its scenic rural setting. I'm sure there is a way to collect on royalties from their taxes.... |
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Double tap Oops, LaRue County is in Kentucky. LaRue County, home to the Abraham Lincoln Birthplace National Historic Site, is noted for its warmth and hospitality, as well as its scenic rural setting. Larue is your last name Mark.....not his. Still confused Larue is technically my last name. It was Americanized sometime in the last 100 years to "Larew". I'm such a poser. |
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Being a cop, you can imagine how often I get asked...."Larue? As in larue tactical?" It's a curse to be constantly reminded that I can't afford the OBR or the trigger or half the other shit on your website as much of it as I would like to have. Lol.
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So has anyone since page 1 actually used this trigger, since that was the original question?
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I have. Groups measured edge to edge. Came out to .722 MOA. http://kevinholman.com/pics/guns/misc/moaallday/WP_20150207_005.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So has anyone since page 1 actually used this trigger, since that was the original question? I have. Groups measured edge to edge. Came out to .722 MOA. http://kevinholman.com/pics/guns/misc/moaallday/WP_20150207_005.jpg So what do you think of the trigger and what other triggers have you used to compare it too? |
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No offense ML, but what is the point of getting involved in these senseless discussions regarding your products. If they truly are what you say they are then let them speak for themselves. Im not saying that you need to confine yourself to your industry section, but maybe you should take a page out of Geissele's book and let your brand advocates do the promoting...
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No offense ML, but what is the point of getting involved in these senseless discussions regarding your products. If they truly are what you say they are then let them speak for themselves. Im not saying that you need to confine yourself to your industry section, but maybe you should take a page out of Geissele's book and let your brand advocates do the promoting... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
No offense ML, but what is the point of getting involved in these senseless discussions regarding your products. If they truly are what you say they are then let them speak for themselves. Im not saying that you need to confine yourself to your industry section, but maybe you should take a page out of Geissele's book and let your brand advocates do the promoting... Sagmill has his way of doing things and I have mine. ETA - But here is one reason ... it's hard for users to get a word in edge-wise at times for being drowned out by haters. Quoted:
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worth the price? Not to me, I'd rather go with Geissele. Agree |
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So has anyone since page 1 actually used this trigger, since that was the original question? I have. Groups measured edge to edge. Came out to .722 MOA. http://kevinholman.com/pics/guns/misc/moaallday/WP_20150207_005.jpg So what do you think of the trigger and what other triggers have you used to compare it too? I already did a full write-up in the review thread that already exists on this topic..... which I am sure you already saw before creating this one: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_219/256310_MBT_Triggers.html The only thing I'd add to that review, is that after shooting the MOA all day challenge with it, I can detect a little creep in the second stage, which I did not detect before. It is very similar to my SSA-E in that regard. I hate creep in the second stage, but that seems to be very typical for almost every 2-stage trigger I own. None of them feel like a jewel 8 ounce trigger. |
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Quoted: I wouldn't be putting $250 match grade triggers in "blasting" or everyday AR's. Not meant for that IMHO. Unless you're shooting a submoa gun I dont see the point. View Quote You can't use a mil spec trigger in a 5.45 with commie ammo, you will get light strikes. You can use a heavy hammer spring but at that point it's so heavy it sucks and loses all training value. I have SSAs in my 5.45s work perfect. |
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No offense ML, but what is the point of getting involved in these senseless discussions regarding your products. If they truly are what you say they are then let them speak for themselves. Im not saying that you need to confine yourself to your industry section, but maybe you should take a page out of Geissele's book and let your brand advocates do the promoting... Sagmill has his way of doing things and I have mine. ETA - But here is one reason ... it's hard for users to get a word in edge-wise at times for being drowned out by haters. Quoted:
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worth the price? Not to me, I'd rather go with Geissele. Agree Your way of doing things created the haters, so... And your fanbois usually drown out the haters anyway. |
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You can't use a mil spec trigger in a 5.45 with commie ammo, you will get light strikes. You can use a heavy hammer spring but at that point it's so heavy it sucks and loses all training value. I have SSAs in my 5.45s work perfect. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I wouldn't be putting $250 match grade triggers in "blasting" or everyday AR's. Not meant for that IMHO. Unless you're shooting a submoa gun I dont see the point. You can't use a mil spec trigger in a 5.45 with commie ammo, you will get light strikes. You can use a heavy hammer spring but at that point it's so heavy it sucks and loses all training value. I have SSAs in my 5.45s work perfect. I can verify this as true. |
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Quoted: Your way of doing things created the haters, so... And your fanbois usually drown out the haters anyway. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: No offense ML, but what is the point of getting involved in these senseless discussions regarding your products. If they truly are what you say they are then let them speak for themselves. Im not saying that you need to confine yourself to your industry section, but maybe you should take a page out of Geissele's book and let your brand advocates do the promoting... Sagmill has his way of doing things and I have mine. ETA - But here is one reason ... it's hard for users to get a word in edge-wise at times for being drowned out by haters. Quoted: Quoted: worth the price? Not to me, I'd rather go with Geissele. Agree Your way of doing things created the haters, so... And your fanbois usually drown out the haters anyway. I bought a complete upper and a few other smaller parts from Larue back in like 07/08 but his attitude and online presence has turned me off to the point that I'll never spend a dime at Larue, I'm not even interested in the giveaways. |
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I already did a full write-up in the review thread that already exists on this topic..... which I am sure you already saw before creating this one: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_219/256310_MBT_Triggers.html The only thing I'd add to that review, is that after shooting the MOA all day challenge with it, I can detect a little creep in the second stage, which I did not detect before. It is very similar to my SSA-E in that regard. I hate creep in the second stage, but that seems to be very typical for almost every 2-stage trigger I own. None of them feel like a jewel 8 ounce trigger. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So has anyone since page 1 actually used this trigger, since that was the original question? I have. Groups measured edge to edge. Came out to .722 MOA. http://kevinholman.com/pics/guns/misc/moaallday/WP_20150207_005.jpg So what do you think of the trigger and what other triggers have you used to compare it too? I already did a full write-up in the review thread that already exists on this topic..... which I am sure you already saw before creating this one: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_219/256310_MBT_Triggers.html The only thing I'd add to that review, is that after shooting the MOA all day challenge with it, I can detect a little creep in the second stage, which I did not detect before. It is very similar to my SSA-E in that regard. I hate creep in the second stage, but that seems to be very typical for almost every 2-stage trigger I own. None of them feel like a jewel 8 ounce trigger. I know you've done the math on how much engagement is truly in play by the ratios of 2nd stage movement. At some point you actually have to be holding the hammer. |
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Sagmill has his way of doing things and I have mine. ETA - But here is one reason ... it's hard for users to get a word in edge-wise at times for being drowned out by haters. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No offense ML, but what is the point of getting involved in these senseless discussions regarding your products. If they truly are what you say they are then let them speak for themselves. Im not saying that you need to confine yourself to your industry section, but maybe you should take a page out of Geissele's book and let your brand advocates do the promoting... Sagmill has his way of doing things and I have mine. ETA - But here is one reason ... it's hard for users to get a word in edge-wise at times for being drowned out by haters. Quoted:
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worth the price? Not to me, I'd rather go with Geissele. Agree So because others prefer Geissele triggers and won't buy yours because they have become a dedicated "G" customer, you have to try to "drown out the haters"? I can honestly say I don't own any LaRue products. Up to a point, it was purely because I didn't have anything that needed one of your products. Nor did I have the money. Since that time, I've seen too many posts about you getting extraordinarily defensive. I'm sure if I were a business owner, I would take pride in my work and my products. But at the same time, you drive off potential customers. I love that you support the shooting community. I love that do giveaways and raffles. But at the same time, your attitude and approach turns me off. So I'll say this and I'm sure this is my first "hater" post. But I will continue to buy Geissele products. I've yet to read a post where Bill bashes people. And when I need a product that you make and he doesn't, well, I'll shop with another Industry Partner. |
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I like Mark's straight-up attitude. Folks jump into the Larue trigger thread and all they have said is....
...."no, I haven't tried it, why did Larue bother making it? I like Geiselle, and that's what I use and anybody that is considering a Larue trigger should buy a Geiselle because that's what I like".... Now, you can bet your ass there are plenty of haters. I for one can't wait to scrap enough spare money together to try one of Marks triggers. Apparently the people who have actually used them, like them. Thanks in advance Mr. Larue, can't wait. |
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Ok I'm going to just start deleting off topic posts after this. Mark LaRue has every right to make triggers and compete with Geissele, or anyone else. Hell Ruger may outsell everyone with their market penetration
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I wouldn't be putting $250 match grade triggers in "blasting" or everyday AR's. Not meant for that IMHO. Unless you're shooting a submoa gun I dont see the point. You can't use a mil spec trigger in a 5.45 with commie ammo, you will get light strikes. You can use a heavy hammer spring but at that point it's so heavy it sucks and loses all training value. I have SSAs in my 5.45s work perfect. I can verify this as true. Speaking of fitting, the MBT trigger shoe is a smidge too wide to fit in SIG's 716 ... Bill's SSA dropped right in. |
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Ok I'm going to just start deleting off topic posts after this. Mark LaRue has every right to make triggers and compete with Geissele, or anyone else. Hell Ruger may outsell everyone with their market penetration View Quote True. Ruger literally wrote the book on high volume production casting. ETA - 1st fanboy of the fanbois word spotted. |
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