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Posted: 7/27/2014 9:13:07 PM EDT
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Does anyone besides centerfire have these? I want to find one with the original carry handle.....Who all still has them?
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Posted: 7/27/2014 10:31:29 PM EDT
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Does anyone besides centerfire have these? I want to find one with the original carry handle.....Who all still has them? Poke around on GunBroker. I'm sure you'll turn one up. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/27/2014 10:50:14 PM EDT
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Found none on gunbroker. Have looked.
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Posted: 7/27/2014 11:00:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/28/2014 5:32:48 PM EDT
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Well I have done a couple more changes to the my $439 DPMS A-15 SOC Urchin. I present to you "War Pig"
BTW, there were a few on Gunbroker, They may have mostly been sold, but they are out there. |
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Posted: 7/28/2014 8:49:30 PM EDT
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Got mine today.
I was hoping for a more beat-up example. This one is in good shape. 
Bone dry on the inside. Semi-auto carrier. I'm happy with it. I may order another just for the hell of it. I don't think this rifle has had more than 100 rounds down the pipe. 
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Posted: 7/28/2014 9:26:43 PM EDT
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Well I have done a couple more changes to the my $439 DPMS A-15 SOC Urchin. I present to you "War Pig" http://oi59.tinypic.com/2gtrfpv.jpg http://oi62.tinypic.com/21c83k9.jpg http://oi62.tinypic.com/20zqukz.jpg http://oi61.tinypic.com/2vkgfv9.jpg BTW, there were a few on Gunbroker, They may have mostly been sold, but they are out there. Looks good but needs a side sling swivel on the front sight base. |
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Posted: 7/28/2014 10:00:50 PM EDT
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Coctailer, where did you get yours? I want a second, but with the original carry handle. Is centerfire the only one with these? Who else has them?
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Posted: 7/28/2014 11:13:30 PM EDT
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I got mine from Centerfire. I think they are out of the carry handle ones now though.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:47:19 AM EDT
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Looks good but needs a side sling swivel on the front sight base. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well I have done a couple more changes to the my $439 DPMS A-15 SOC Urchin. I present to you "War Pig" http://oi59.tinypic.com/2gtrfpv.jpg http://oi62.tinypic.com/21c83k9.jpg http://oi62.tinypic.com/20zqukz.jpg http://oi61.tinypic.com/2vkgfv9.jpg BTW, there were a few on Gunbroker, They may have mostly been sold, but they are out there. Looks good but needs a side sling swivel on the front sight base. Thats next in my bucket list. Got to find a used one with wear to fit the image. The new Matech sight does not blend well. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 6:41:41 PM EDT
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Placed an order for one this morning. Been contemplating a cheap behind the seat AR. Will post pics when it arrives
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Posted: 7/30/2014 7:11:20 PM EDT
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I might buy one from centerfire again, but I am also considering trying to pick up one off gunbroker with a carry handle. Can't decide....
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Posted: 7/30/2014 7:55:18 PM EDT
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I might buy one from centerfire again, but I am also considering trying to pick up one off gunbroker with a carry handle. Can't decide.... I've seen fairly beat up carrying handles on gunbroker and eBay for about $25. Just put one of those on. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 8:54:06 PM EDT
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Zeroed in Aimpoint Comp 2 today. 90 rounds total with no hiccups. XM193 exclusively.
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Posted: 8/1/2014 9:12:11 AM EDT
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I picked up a couple of these DPMS rifles from Centerfire Systems earlier this week. Both are M4 versions. As stated above, both rifles have a great deal of wear on all exposed surfaces as well as a fine coating of dirt and / or sand in all the small crevices. Looks like the SOC property tag was across the DPMS logo but was removed at some point. Overall, love them! One rifle has an F0 serial number and the other F1. The F0 rifle has a large rectangular sticker on the stock that displays the name "Fletcher, W" then the serial number. That name doesn't seem to fit the Ugandan guard theory. I tried to contact DPMS to inquire about the history on these rifles. I received quick responses but really no answers. They suggested contacting the ATF. I had hoped DPMS could at least confirm or deny SOC-USA was the original purchaser. Again, quick response but stated they could not give out that information.
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Posted: 8/1/2014 4:23:34 PM EDT
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I picked up a couple of these DPMS rifles from Centerfire Systems earlier this week. Both are M4 versions. As stated above, both rifles have a great deal of wear on all exposed surfaces as well as a fine coating of dirt and / or sand in all the small crevices. Looks like the SOC property tag was across the DPMS logo but was removed at some point. Overall, love them! One rifle has an F0 serial number and the other F1. The F0 rifle has a large rectangular sticker on the stock that displays the name "Fletcher, W" then the serial number. That name doesn't seem to fit the Ugandan guard theory. I tried to contact DPMS to inquire about the history on these rifles. I received quick responses but really no answers. They suggested contacting the ATF. I had hoped DPMS could at least confirm or deny SOC-USA was the original purchaser. Again, quick response but stated they could not give out that information. That name definitely doesn't sound like it fits with the previous presumption. What has everyone been using to clean off the rust off of these? CLP and a brush? |
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Posted: 8/1/2014 4:26:05 PM EDT
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That name definitely doesn't sound like it fits with the previous presumption. What has everyone been using to clean off the rust off of these? CLP and a brush? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I picked up a couple of these DPMS rifles from Centerfire Systems earlier this week. Both are M4 versions. As stated above, both rifles have a great deal of wear on all exposed surfaces as well as a fine coating of dirt and / or sand in all the small crevices. Looks like the SOC property tag was across the DPMS logo but was removed at some point. Overall, love them! One rifle has an F0 serial number and the other F1. The F0 rifle has a large rectangular sticker on the stock that displays the name "Fletcher, W" then the serial number. That name doesn't seem to fit the Ugandan guard theory. I tried to contact DPMS to inquire about the history on these rifles. I received quick responses but really no answers. They suggested contacting the ATF. I had hoped DPMS could at least confirm or deny SOC-USA was the original purchaser. Again, quick response but stated they could not give out that information. That name definitely doesn't sound like it fits with the previous presumption. What has everyone been using to clean off the rust off of these? CLP and a brush? I don't think there is any rust on them. What you see that looks like rust is talc-sand from the middle-east. Wipes off. |
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Posted: 8/1/2014 6:39:50 PM EDT
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Fuck it...I think I'm FO'ing....maybe for two.
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Posted: 8/1/2014 6:55:40 PM EDT
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Nevermind.
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Posted: 8/2/2014 9:32:07 AM EDT
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That name definitely doesn't sound like it fits with the previous presumption. What has everyone been using to clean off the rust off of these? CLP and a brush? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I picked up a couple of these DPMS rifles from Centerfire Systems earlier this week. Both are M4 versions. As stated above, both rifles have a great deal of wear on all exposed surfaces as well as a fine coating of dirt and / or sand in all the small crevices. Looks like the SOC property tag was across the DPMS logo but was removed at some point. Overall, love them! One rifle has an F0 serial number and the other F1. The F0 rifle has a large rectangular sticker on the stock that displays the name "Fletcher, W" then the serial number. That name doesn't seem to fit the Ugandan guard theory. I tried to contact DPMS to inquire about the history on these rifles. I received quick responses but really no answers. They suggested contacting the ATF. I had hoped DPMS could at least confirm or deny SOC-USA was the original purchaser. Again, quick response but stated they could not give out that information. That name definitely doesn't sound like it fits with the previous presumption. What has everyone been using to clean off the rust off of these? CLP and a brush? I had a light coat of rust on my barrel under the handguards. Scotchbrite pad and spraying of Rem oil cleaned it up. Than sprayed down with rust sheath. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 11:29:36 AM EDT
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I just ordered two....Damn you ARFcom!
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Posted: 8/4/2014 3:21:39 PM EDT
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video about these was just put up
http://youtu.be/CTIf-nFpWbU |
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Posted: 8/4/2014 3:43:37 PM EDT
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I like that the shooter has a tribal tattoo.
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Posted: 8/4/2014 3:53:53 PM EDT
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Are these any different than the DPMS ones made for commercial buyers?
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Posted: 8/4/2014 5:36:40 PM EDT
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That was a killer deal!!
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Posted: 8/5/2014 9:30:17 AM EDT
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Are these any different than the DPMS ones made for commercial buyers? No |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 9:56:49 AM EDT
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These rifles look great guys
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Posted: 8/5/2014 11:16:00 AM EDT
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Are these any different than the DPMS ones made for commercial buyers? No Man....I wish you would fess up and give us the skinny on these rifles....Do you have NDA or something with the company that used these rifles and brought them back? I don't see what it would hurt just to give us a little info on these instead of being all hush hush, I could tell you but then I would have to kill you type of thing... |
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Posted: 8/5/2014 11:45:41 AM EDT
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They are different, commercial DPMS rifles don't come with chrome lined barrels!
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Posted: 8/5/2014 12:59:08 PM EDT
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They are different, commercial DPMS rifles don't come with chrome lined barrels! FYI, we've sold more CHROME-LINED barrels in the last 20 years than most AR companies ever made. Ohh really??? wait a minute here we go... Do the research before you spew internet garbage. 
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Posted: 8/5/2014 3:37:43 PM EDT
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Oh, the smackdown!
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Posted: 8/5/2014 8:09:48 PM EDT
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Picked up mine from my ffl today. I noticed when I grab the handgaurds I can twist them and the delta ring back and forth about a1/4" or so. Is that normal if not what is the problem or worn?
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Posted: 8/6/2014 7:44:20 AM EDT
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Where are you guys getting these with the carry handles?
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Posted: 8/6/2014 7:49:46 AM EDT
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Remove the handguards. I'm willing to bet that the slots that go over the gas tube are much wider than the factory spec. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Remove the handguards. I'm willing to bet that the slots that go over the gas tube are much wider than the factory spec. Quoted:
Do you mean the slot in the delta ring? If it is larger would replacing the delta ring solve that? Check this area of the HG. Mine are tight as hell, zero movement. Nice dirt bro! 
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Posted: 8/9/2014 4:28:00 PM EDT
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I hope I can find one or two of these in a week or so!
Nice looking guys! A little cleanup can go a long way. |
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Posted: 8/9/2014 8:42:46 PM EDT
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If nothing else, I love the Panther logo.
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Posted: 8/10/2014 1:18:39 AM EDT
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Hey, that one looks great!
My handguards don't move, so something must be broken. Maybe the handguard is busted somewhere allowing it to rotate a bit. These handguards seem to be quite abused, with bits broken off and all. Parts of the seam on both sides of mine a broken off (like yours), so its not surprising, |
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Posted: 8/10/2014 8:42:59 AM EDT
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Where are you guys getting these with the carry handles? I actually ordered a carry handle separate from centerfire thinking it would be a take off carry handle from these rifles but instead it was a new Chinese made piece of shit. I have since returned it and bought the correct cardinal forge carry handle from a member here in the EE that matches the wear of my rifle |
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Posted: 8/14/2014 6:08:14 PM EDT
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I just ordered one of these. I'll post pics when I get it.
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Posted: 8/16/2014 8:30:15 PM EDT
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I received one of the "American Spirit Arms" AR15's that SOC issued along with the DPMS A15's and the Bushmaster XM15E2s. The Bushmaster I ordered also showed up, but, the condition was listed as "Good-Incomplete". It is lacking the entire upper assembly! The Serial number of the Bushmaster starts with "L398XXX" A friend of mine has one also (his arrived complete) and the serial number is "L382XXX" The American Spirit serial number starts with "AS17XXX" AS a nice bonus the American Spirit still has its three point sling fitted. The American Spirit has most of its anodizing worn off the lower receiver! Richard |
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Posted: 8/17/2014 12:31:27 AM EDT
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Where did you order the Bushmaster and American Spirit rifles from?
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Posted: 8/17/2014 7:24:00 AM EDT
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I received one of the "American Spirit Arms" AR15's that SOC issued along with the DPMS A15's and the Bushmaster XM15E2s. The Bushmaster I ordered also showed up, but, the condition was listed as "Good-Incomplete". It is lacking the entire upper assembly! The Serial number of the Bushmaster starts with "L398XXX" A friend of mine has one also (his arrived complete) and the serial number is "L382XXX" The American Spirit serial number starts with "AS17XXX" AS a nice bonus the American Spirit still has its three point sling fitted. The American Spirit has most of its anodizing worn off the lower receiver! Richard We like pickshurs. 
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Posted: 8/17/2014 8:28:59 AM EDT
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I received one of the "American Spirit Arms" AR15's that SOC issued along with the DPMS A15's and the Bushmaster XM15E2s. The Bushmaster I ordered also showed up, but, the condition was listed as "Good-Incomplete". It is lacking the entire upper assembly! The Serial number of the Bushmaster starts with "L398XXX" A friend of mine has one also (his arrived complete) and the serial number is "L382XXX" The American Spirit serial number starts with "AS17XXX" AS a nice bonus the American Spirit still has its three point sling fitted. The American Spirit has most of its anodizing worn off the lower receiver! Richard Pics? and who has the other 2 brands and if you don't mind answering what is the cost on the bushmaster and American spirit? |
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Posted: 8/17/2014 9:35:19 AM EDT
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Pics? and who has the other 2 brands and if you don't mind answering what is the cost on the bushmaster and American spirit? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I received one of the "American Spirit Arms" AR15's that SOC issued along with the DPMS A15's and the Bushmaster XM15E2s. The Bushmaster I ordered also showed up, but, the condition was listed as "Good-Incomplete". It is lacking the entire upper assembly! The Serial number of the Bushmaster starts with "L398XXX" A friend of mine has one also (his arrived complete) and the serial number is "L382XXX" The American Spirit serial number starts with "AS17XXX" AS a nice bonus the American Spirit still has its three point sling fitted. The American Spirit has most of its anodizing worn off the lower receiver! Richard Pics? and who has the other 2 brands and if you don't mind answering what is the cost on the bushmaster and American spirit? Looks like Century has them http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=RE2221%2DG http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=RE2223%2DG http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=RI2220AY%2DGI http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=RI2221Y%2DF Can someone with a FFL tell us how much these are? |
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Posted: 8/17/2014 10:54:46 AM EDT
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I received one of the "American Spirit Arms" AR15's that SOC issued along with the DPMS A15's and the Bushmaster XM15E2s. The Bushmaster I ordered also showed up, but, the condition was listed as "Good-Incomplete". It is lacking the entire upper assembly! The Serial number of the Bushmaster starts with "L398XXX" A friend of mine has one also (his arrived complete) and the serial number is "L382XXX" The American Spirit serial number starts with "AS17XXX" AS a nice bonus the American Spirit still has its three point sling fitted. The American Spirit has most of its anodizing worn off the lower receiver! Richard Pics please |
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Posted: 8/17/2014 4:40:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like Century has them http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=RE2221%2DG http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=RE2223%2DG http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=RI2220AY%2DGI http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=RI2221Y%2DF Can someone with a FFL tell us how much these are? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I received one of the "American Spirit Arms" AR15's that SOC issued along with the DPMS A15's and the Bushmaster XM15E2s. The Bushmaster I ordered also showed up, but, the condition was listed as "Good-Incomplete". It is lacking the entire upper assembly! The Serial number of the Bushmaster starts with "L398XXX" A friend of mine has one also (his arrived complete) and the serial number is "L382XXX" The American Spirit serial number starts with "AS17XXX" AS a nice bonus the American Spirit still has its three point sling fitted. The American Spirit has most of its anodizing worn off the lower receiver! Richard Pics? and who has the other 2 brands and if you don't mind answering what is the cost on the bushmaster and American spirit? Looks like Century has them http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=RE2221%2DG http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=RE2223%2DG http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=RI2220AY%2DGI http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=RI2221Y%2DF Can someone with a FFL tell us how much these are? Century was where the Bushmaster & American Spirit rifles were ordered from, the DPMS came from Centerfire Systems. I will try and take some pictures today. Richard |
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Posted: 8/17/2014 4:45:30 PM EDT
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Century was where the Bushmaster & American Spirit rifles were ordered from, the DPMS came from Centerfire Systems. I will try and take some pictures today. Richard Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I received one of the "American Spirit Arms" AR15's that SOC issued along with the DPMS A15's and the Bushmaster XM15E2s. The Bushmaster I ordered also showed up, but, the condition was listed as "Good-Incomplete". It is lacking the entire upper assembly! The Serial number of the Bushmaster starts with "L398XXX" A friend of mine has one also (his arrived complete) and the serial number is "L382XXX" The American Spirit serial number starts with "AS17XXX" AS a nice bonus the American Spirit still has its three point sling fitted. The American Spirit has most of its anodizing worn off the lower receiver! Richard Pics? and who has the other 2 brands and if you don't mind answering what is the cost on the bushmaster and American spirit? Looks like Century has them http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=RE2221%2DG http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=RE2223%2DG http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=RI2220AY%2DGI http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=RI2221Y%2DF Can someone with a FFL tell us how much these are? I will try and take some pictures today. Richard How much were the Bushmaster and ASA rifles from Century? |
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Posted: 8/17/2014 6:03:11 PM EDT
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Sorry, guys... It doesn't make a ton of sense to me to pay nearly 500 bones for a random beat to shit DPMS from Bumfucked Egypt when you could pay the same amount for a brand new BCM upper and BC and slap to any cheap ass lower lying around and call it a day...
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