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Posted: 5/25/2014 3:47:30 PM EDT
There is a huge thread for Recce rifles, but is there a dedicated "Afghan" picture/discussion thread for 14.5" precision rifles? These were also called "Recon Scouts", IIRC.
EDIT: to clarify, this thread is for 5.56 ARs with 14.5" precision barrels (stainless steel, or accurized CMV), and an optic capable of magnification. EDIT 2: The barrel does not have to be Noveske Afghan. See above. EDIT 3: It Begins 
EDIT 4: Optic trial 
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Posted: 5/26/2014 12:39:16 PM EDT
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Anyone?
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Posted: 5/26/2014 12:41:05 PM EDT
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14.5" precision rifle is a recce rifle...it's such a loose concept that it's all grouped into one. That is the only thread you'll find.
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Posted: 5/26/2014 12:45:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 14.5" precision rifle is a recce rifle...it's such a loose concept that it's all grouped into one. That is the only thread you'll find. |
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Posted: 5/26/2014 9:59:42 PM EDT
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14.5" precision rifle is a recce rifle...it's such a loose concept that it's all grouped into one. That is the only thread you'll find. Ah, some of these are in the mega Recce thread? I looked through a few pages but didn't see any. |
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Posted: 5/26/2014 11:43:42 PM EDT
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14.5" precision rifle is a recce rifle...it's such a loose concept that it's all grouped into one. That is the only thread you'll find. I'm all off base. I thought a recce was a precision 16". So it applies to 14.5"s as well? Interesting. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 12:08:18 AM EDT
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I'm all off base. I thought a recce was a precision 16". So it applies to 14.5"s as well? Interesting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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14.5" precision rifle is a recce rifle...it's such a loose concept that it's all grouped into one. That is the only thread you'll find. I'm all off base. I thought a recce was a precision 16". So it applies to 14.5"s as well? Interesting. Recce is 16 not 14.5 |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 12:26:54 AM EDT
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Recce is 16 not 14.5 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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14.5" precision rifle is a recce rifle...it's such a loose concept that it's all grouped into one. That is the only thread you'll find. I'm all off base. I thought a recce was a precision 16". So it applies to 14.5"s as well? Interesting. Recce is 16 not 14.5 I believe it can be both. But, the standard is a SS barrel across the board |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 12:28:03 AM EDT
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Ah, some of these are in the mega Recce thread? I looked through a few pages but didn't see any. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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14.5" precision rifle is a recce rifle...it's such a loose concept that it's all grouped into one. That is the only thread you'll find. Ah, some of these are in the mega Recce thread? I looked through a few pages but didn't see any. I will play - Noveski Afghan with 1.5 Battlecomp PRI Tube Young NM BCG Mega Upper NF 2.5-10x42 glass in ADM Mount Atlas Bipod RRA NM trigger I really want a T1 with ADM mount for close in work 
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Posted: 5/27/2014 1:29:06 AM EDT
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The Lilja Recce barrel is 17" from end to end. What the barrel length works out to when the bolt is closed, IDK. It's also carbine gas and most the Recce builds in the pic thread are middy's. The Recce also use's a 1/8 twist and .223 Wylde chamber. So if we're are being picky, the Noveske Afghan doesn't qualify. It's pretty up in the air about what all other components goes into making a Recce. I personally, find it the best all around AR-15.
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Posted: 5/27/2014 2:01:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/27/2014 3:10:53 AM EDT
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<a href="https://flic.kr/p/npWcrA" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7338/14054346072_0a0db889e8_c.jpg</a>Untitled by asp_762, on Flickr I post this bitch entirely too often, but I just love her so damn much. Good looking rifle, would post the hell out of it myself as well, lol. Is that a SS 3-15x? If so, how is it? |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 3:46:03 AM EDT
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Good looking rifle, would post the hell out of it myself as well, lol. Is that a SS 3-15x? If so, how is it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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<a href="https://flic.kr/p/npWcrA" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7338/14054346072_0a0db889e8_c.jpg</a>Untitled by asp_762, on Flickr I post this bitch entirely too often, but I just love her so damn much. Good looking rifle, would post the hell out of it myself as well, lol. Is that a SS 3-15x? If so, how is it? Thanks! Negative. It's the SS fixed 20 power, and it is perfect for shooting groups. |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 9:59:30 AM EDT
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Alright... since we are posting pics now:
Its a Noveske "Afghan" barrel at the very least  . It definitely still needs a bipod
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Posted: 5/27/2014 3:52:19 PM EDT
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Alright... since we are posting pics now: Its a Noveske "Afghan" barrel at the very least . It definitely still needs a bipod
http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r775/bornSINNERintermediates/N2_zpsa17ddd1f.jpg http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r775/bornSINNERintermediates/N4_zps65b941f4.jpg http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r775/bornSINNERintermediates/N3_zps9d37faf6.jpg http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r775/bornSINNERintermediates/N5_zpse4ae3785.jpg Well, the name of the thread is Afghan, so unless the title gets changed, I would think anything other than a Noveske Afghan barrel would be out of place. 
Nice looking blaster! |
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Posted: 5/27/2014 6:02:07 PM EDT
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I've posted my 14.5" midlength stainless in the Recce thread many times.. Not a Noveske barrel, but it's similar (White Oak). I don't think that thread is as strict on specs as the mk12 and mk18 threads. Hell, I think only one guy in there has built a rifle close to a "spec" Recce rifle. (16" carbine gas Lilja barrel, KAC FF rail, Nightforce 2.5-10x etc.) I know mine isn't the only 14.5" in there, but you would have to sift through all the pics to find them all.
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Posted: 5/28/2014 12:23:24 AM EDT
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The Lilja Recce barrel is 17" from end to end. What the barrel length works out to when the bolt is closed, IDK. It's also carbine gas and most the Recce builds in the pic thread are middy's. The Recce also use's a 1/8 twist and .223 Wylde chamber. So if we're are being picky, the Noveske Afghan doesn't qualify. It's pretty up in the air about what all other components goes into making a Recce. I personally, find it the best all around AR-15. http://area7precision.us/images/mega5561.jpg Thats nice stick. Seems, from what I know, that would suit things just fine. |
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Posted: 5/28/2014 2:20:04 AM EDT
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Thats nice stick. Seems, from what I know, that would suit things just fine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Lilja Recce barrel is 17" from end to end. What the barrel length works out to when the bolt is closed, IDK. It's also carbine gas and most the Recce builds in the pic thread are middy's. The Recce also use's a 1/8 twist and .223 Wylde chamber. So if we're are being picky, the Noveske Afghan doesn't qualify. It's pretty up in the air about what all other components goes into making a Recce. I personally, find it the best all around AR-15. http://area7precision.us/images/mega5561.jpg Thats nice stick. Seems, from what I know, that would suit things just fine. Thanks! IMO, it suits things just fine! 
I really think the Recce rifle is so undefined, pretty much anything goes. Most of BCM's 16" Recce uppers don't even have stainless barrels so pretty much anyone can play. One of the problems I have with building clones is the fact that some parts that are used just aren't the best. Now to go against the current: my Noveske Afghan LW! All the same Afghan greatness, 4 ounces lighter!
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Posted: 5/28/2014 11:47:15 AM EDT
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my Afghan over the years
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Posted: 5/28/2014 9:54:29 PM EDT
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Well, the name of the thread is Afghan, so unless the title gets changed, I would think anything other than a Noveske Afghan barrel would be out of place. Duly noted 
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Posted: 5/28/2014 9:58:49 PM EDT
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I've posted my 14.5" midlength stainless in the Recce thread many times.. Not a Noveske barrel, but it's similar (White Oak). I don't think that thread is as strict on specs as the mk12 and mk18 threads. Hell, I think only one guy in there has built a rifle close to a "spec" Recce rifle. (16" carbine gas Lilja barrel, KAC FF rail, Nightforce 2.5-10x etc.) I know mine isn't the only 14.5" in there, but you would have to sift through all the pics to find them all. Post your 14.5" midlength stainless rifle pics here then, so no one will have to sift to find them
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Posted: 5/28/2014 10:09:06 PM EDT
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Screw the naysayers I like the Afghan concept and I like it being separate from a RECCE. I've always thought of a RECCE being a 16".
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Posted: 5/28/2014 10:18:21 PM EDT
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Mine is 14.5" and precision
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Posted: 5/28/2014 10:29:25 PM EDT
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^ um well yeah...now I've gotta go edit the OP again
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Posted: 5/28/2014 11:07:41 PM EDT
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I'll play...
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Posted: 5/28/2014 11:10:32 PM EDT
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Ugh... I've built a Block 2, Block 1, MK12 Mod 0, MK18 Mod1 in the past 3 months alone. I'm TAPPED OUT.
And now, this. Ordering parts.
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Posted: 5/29/2014 12:47:26 AM EDT
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Ugh... I've built a Block 2, Block 1, MK12 Mod 0, MK18 Mod1 in the past 3 months alone. I'm TAPPED OUT. And now, this. Ordering parts. Christ, you must have a lot of cash money. |
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Posted: 5/29/2014 1:10:51 AM EDT
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WOA barrel.
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Posted: 5/29/2014 1:27:46 AM EDT
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Close up of 14.5" Noveske with Trijicon TARS.
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Posted: 5/29/2014 2:25:47 AM EDT
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Is my CHF LW 14.5 chrome lined BCM middy a no go for "precision barrel"?
I can squeeze about 1.5 MOA out of it with decent ammo if I do my part, on a bookbag with a sweatshirt in it. I'm sure with match ammo, and a lead sled, and all other benchrest BS, it is MOA or better, but as I don't consider ideal situations at a bench the same as "fighting conditions" I am not sure if it counts. A bench rifle isn't a combat rifle IMO. If you can't set it down on whatever is available and make an effective shot, what is the point? People don't go hunting with lead sleds. ETA: I'm posting it anyway. 
Noveske gen 2 lower Geissele ssa-e trigger Ta-31rco m150cp-g ACOG BCM CHF 14.5 LW middy Noveske NSR Battlecomp1.5 BCM charging handle Tactical Link sling Magpul and Noveske furniture Duracoat on the rifle, alumahyde on the pmag |
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Posted: 5/29/2014 2:30:03 AM EDT
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This will turn into one of my favorite pic threads around here.
14.5" all-around rigs sporting 1-4x or 1-6x optics are still arguably my favorite setups. I'll have some decent pics to share shortly. My VCOG just arrived.
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Posted: 5/29/2014 11:29:11 AM EDT
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Well, the name of the thread is Afghan, so unless the title gets changed, I would think anything other than a Noveske Afghan barrel would be out of place.
Nice looking blaster! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Alright... since we are posting pics now: Its a Noveske "Afghan" barrel at the very least . It definitely still needs a bipod
http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r775/bornSINNERintermediates/N2_zpsa17ddd1f.jpg http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r775/bornSINNERintermediates/N4_zps65b941f4.jpg http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r775/bornSINNERintermediates/N3_zps9d37faf6.jpg http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r775/bornSINNERintermediates/N5_zpse4ae3785.jpg Well, the name of the thread is Afghan, so unless the title gets changed, I would think anything other than a Noveske Afghan barrel would be out of place.
Nice looking blaster! Appreciate that... It has definitely been a good rifle so far. The photography leaves a little to be desired haha. |
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Posted: 5/29/2014 1:11:45 PM EDT
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Is my CHF LW 14.5 chrome lined BCM middy a no go for "precision barrel"? I can squeeze about 1.5 MOA out of it with decent ammo if I do my part, on a bookbag with a sweatshirt in it. I'm sure with match ammo, and a lead sled, and all other benchrest BS, it is MOA or better, but as I don't consider ideal situations at a bench the same as "fighting conditions" I am not sure if it counts. A bench rifle isn't a combat rifle IMO. If you can't set it down on whatever is available and make an effective shot, what is the point? People don't go hunting with lead sleds. ETA: I'm posting it anyway. http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m127/sirhybrid/8975190E-22EC-4F75-A752-B493E9CDEAFE.jpg Noveske gen 2 lower Geissele ssa-e trigger Ta-31rco m150cp-g ACOG BCM CHF 14.5 LW middy Noveske NSR Battlecomp1.5 BCM charging handle Tactical Link sling Magpul and Noveske furniture Duracoat on the rifle, alumahyde on the pmag Who's talking about hunting with lead-sleds? You do know you can "fight" with a precision stainless steel barrel, right? |
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Posted: 5/31/2014 12:11:04 PM EDT
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Well the Recce thread is up to 124 pages, so post some pics so we can catch up!
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Posted: 5/31/2014 2:36:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well the Recce thread is up to 124 pages, so post some pics so we can catch up!  |
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Posted: 5/31/2014 5:11:58 PM EDT
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I'm your huckleberry
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Posted: 5/31/2014 6:50:34 PM EDT
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Thanks! IMO, it suits things just fine!
I really think the Recce rifle is so undefined, pretty much anything goes. Most of BCM's 16" Recce uppers don't even have stainless barrels so pretty much anyone can play. One of the problems I have with building clones is the fact that some parts that are used just aren't the best. Now to go against the current: my Noveske Afghan LW! All the same Afghan greatness, 4 ounces lighter!
http://area7precision.us/images/010.JPG http://area7precision.us/images/54141.jpg http://area7precision.us/images/rng2.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Lilja Recce barrel is 17" from end to end. What the barrel length works out to when the bolt is closed, IDK. It's also carbine gas and most the Recce builds in the pic thread are middy's. The Recce also use's a 1/8 twist and .223 Wylde chamber. So if we're are being picky, the Noveske Afghan doesn't qualify. It's pretty up in the air about what all other components goes into making a Recce. I personally, find it the best all around AR-15. http://area7precision.us/images/mega5561.jpg Thats nice stick. Seems, from what I know, that would suit things just fine. Thanks! IMO, it suits things just fine!
I really think the Recce rifle is so undefined, pretty much anything goes. Most of BCM's 16" Recce uppers don't even have stainless barrels so pretty much anyone can play. One of the problems I have with building clones is the fact that some parts that are used just aren't the best. Now to go against the current: my Noveske Afghan LW! All the same Afghan greatness, 4 ounces lighter!
http://area7precision.us/images/010.JPG http://area7precision.us/images/54141.jpg http://area7precision.us/images/rng2.jpg What fore end is that? |
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Posted: 5/31/2014 7:27:46 PM EDT
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What I have so far
Barrel is a Rainier UltraMatch. Furniture is B5 Systems "Coyote" (in reality, it's FS30118 Field Drab, aka SOCOM Dark Earth) *** For the optic, I'm torn...I think with a 1-6X it would be an excellent (though a bit heavy) all-around AR. With a low-power variable like a 2.5-10X, it would be lose the close-in ability (unless paired with an MRD) and be more of a dedicated Precision rifle. What are your thoughts? |
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Posted: 5/31/2014 7:44:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What I have so far http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii173/USPx4/Mobile%20Uploads/20140531_154759_zps43375b33.jpg Barrel is a Rainier UltraMatch. Furniture is B5 Systems "Coyote" (in reality, it's FS30118 Field Drab, aka SOCOM Dark Earth) *** For the optic, I'm torn...I think with a 1-6X it would be an excellent (though a bit heavy) all-around AR. With a low-power variable like a 2.5-10X, it would be lose the close-in ability (unless paired with an MRD) and be more of a dedicated Precision rifle. What are your thoughts? If you think you will be shooting past 400 a lot get the 2.5-10. ETA: I shoot man/deer size targets so 1-4 for me works best for that.
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Posted: 5/31/2014 10:07:08 PM EDT
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You should do well that 1-4 as for me I gave it up to go to a vortex 2.5-10x44. Should have it Monday and will post pics. I needed the extra magnification for my eyes. Enjoy that scope it is a good one.
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Posted: 6/1/2014 12:56:21 AM EDT
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Top rifle Noveske 14.5" Afghan
Bottom rifle Noveske 16" Middie 
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Posted: 6/1/2014 11:54:13 AM EDT
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What I have so far http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii173/USPx4/Mobile%20Uploads/20140531_154759_zps43375b33.jpg Barrel is a Rainier UltraMatch. Furniture is B5 Systems "Coyote" (in reality, it's FS30118 Field Drab, aka SOCOM Dark Earth) *** For the optic, I'm torn...I think with a 1-6X it would be an excellent (though a bit heavy) all-around AR. With a low-power variable like a 2.5-10X, it would be lose the close-in ability (unless paired with an MRD) and be more of a dedicated Precision rifle. What are your thoughts? If you are doing more paper punching, or shooting small targets, the 2.5-10x would be better, but as long as your eyesight is still decent you won't give up much with a 1-6x. I think that is the perfect magnification for this barrel length/caliber. I really like having 1x on the low end, and am not too fond of having a second optic riding high or off to the side.. Lots of good 1-6x options these days to choose from too. Rifle looks nice btw, I see we have some parts in common! 
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Posted: 6/1/2014 12:16:36 PM EDT
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The Lilja Recce barrel is 17" from end to end. What the barrel length works out to when the bolt is closed, IDK. It's also carbine gas and most the Recce builds in the pic thread are middy's. The Recce also use's a 1/8 twist and .223 Wylde chamber. So if we're are being picky, the Noveske Afghan doesn't qualify. It's pretty up in the air about what all other components goes into making a Recce. I personally, find it the best all around AR-15. http://area7precision.us/images/mega5561.jpg Thats nice stick. Seems, from what I know, that would suit things just fine. Thanks! IMO, it suits things just fine!
I really think the Recce rifle is so undefined, pretty much anything goes. Most of BCM's 16" Recce uppers don't even have stainless barrels so pretty much anyone can play. One of the problems I have with building clones is the fact that some parts that are used just aren't the best. Now to go against the current: my Noveske Afghan LW! All the same Afghan greatness, 4 ounces lighter!
http://area7precision.us/images/010.JPG http://area7precision.us/images/54141.jpg http://area7precision.us/images/rng2.jpg What fore end is that? KAC URX 4 10" |
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Posted: 6/1/2014 3:27:10 PM EDT
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Finally, a home for my rifle. I am not posting pics yet because I still need to source my handguard, optic, and decide on a muzzle device. Right now it is a Spikes Pirate lower, Rainier upper and Ultramatch barrel. Pics will follow.
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Posted: 6/6/2014 7:43:00 PM EDT
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Theory: a 1-6X variable is the optimal optic for this type of rifle
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Posted: 6/13/2014 6:35:40 PM EDT
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or a 1-8
with a Noveske 14.5" N4 
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Posted: 6/15/2014 6:47:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/15/2014 7:14:12 PM EDT
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I think this qualifies. 14.5 pinned <a href="https://flic.kr/p/nSyJq4" target="_blank">https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3919/14355703195_4944756c43_c.jpg</a>20140605_084318_1 by tb5252, on Flickr One of my favorites. I'll be adding a URX III to this, hopefully, this week. Old pic. 
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Posted: 6/15/2014 11:50:52 PM EDT
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This rifle is not a clone of any fielded rifles, just my Recce for when the red dot just doesn't cut it. I took a lot of time to build this exactly the way I like it and it's sweet. She even has the Noveske Afghan Barrel.
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Posted: 6/16/2014 2:42:23 AM EDT
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