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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:24:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:28:13 PM EDT
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My favorite back up sight is the KAC micros. But, if I was in your situation I would get the Daniel defense rear sight. It's as rock solid as a carry handle and it stays up.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:29:25 PM EDT
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LMT, you can pick them up cheap in the EE.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:30:49 PM EDT
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Nice. I'm not necessarily looking for a backup sight. I guess I'll just need to see these in person.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:33:30 PM EDT
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I'm also not above a carry handle. Just whatever gives me the best sight picture in an iron sight. We'll be shooting in low light conditions etc.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:40:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:42:14 PM EDT
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My favorite back up sight is the KAC micros. But, if I was in your situation I would get the Daniel defense rear sight. It's as rock solid as a carry handle and it stays up. x2 |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:47:03 PM EDT
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My favorite back up sight is the KAC micros. But, if I was in your situation I would get the Daniel defense rear sight. It's as rock solid as a carry handle and it stays up. x2 Probably not the best sight for this application since he said he will be shooting in low light and the KAC micros only have a small aperture. I'd recommend the LaRue or Daniel Defense. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:52:55 PM EDT
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use a FIXED sight. If thats all you are using then you don't need a flip-up. Go with a LT or LMT sight. The carry handle is great as well obviously.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:01:34 PM EDT
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I am a big fan of the daniels defense fixed sight.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:54:07 PM EDT
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I use a GG&G MAD buis if your going fixed a cut down carry handle ought to do it...cheap and solid
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:09:29 PM EDT
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I'm also not above a carry handle. Just whatever gives me the best sight picture in an iron sight. We'll be shooting in low light conditions etc. I'd buy a BCM carry handle very nice and solid. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:33:55 PM EDT
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LT or DD
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:56:04 PM EDT
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Use whatever kind of sight you'd use as a backup to your optic. Kindof a waste to practice with something you won't be carrying, ya?
If you want a folding BUIS, the Troy, ARMS, Magpul Pro, KAC or MaTech will serve you well.(Though I am loathe to support Troy Industries in any way, their battle sights are good kit. Get a BCM one or find a used one on the E&E for cheap since more than a few people want nothing to do with them) If you intend to run fixed BUIS behind your optic, the LMT, DD, MI,(Pretty much a copy of the DD) LT and, believe it or not, Rock River ones are pretty good. For a fixed A2 style, I prefer the RR over the LMT. Hate the big-ass knob that gets in the way. RR doesn't have that, instead there are two low profile, hex head cross bolts. Perfect if you don't intent to remove the thing, or if you just like the extra peace of mind. Personally, I wouldn't bother with an A2 style rear. They just tend to have more things that can break, since you likely won't be shooting irons at distances where the extra adjustments would be of use. Now if you don't want to spend the money on any of these, the Magpul will do just fine. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:01:29 PM EDT
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Probably not the best sight for this application since he said he will be shooting in low light and the KAC micros only have a small aperture. I'd recommend the LaRue or Daniel Defense. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My favorite back up sight is the KAC micros. But, if I was in your situation I would get the Daniel defense rear sight. It's as rock solid as a carry handle and it stays up. x2 Probably not the best sight for this application since he said he will be shooting in low light and the KAC micros only have a small aperture. I'd recommend the LaRue or Daniel Defense. I agree, I have a KAC micro on one of mine and in low light it's not very good. Carry handle with A2 style sight is much better. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 10:37:52 PM EDT
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I'm curious why you don't think the Magpul is a good backup sight? I've used lots of different ones and I typically prefer types like the Magpul that have wings on either side of the peep. And honestly, if you're getting the right sight picture, the brand if sight shouldn't matter. A peep is a peep. I guess I'm just trying to figure out why you don't like it? That would definitely help people give a recommendation.
And you do know that the peep has an insert that folds down for a bigger peep in low light or close quarters, right? |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:09:05 AM EDT
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Find a used carry handle cheap. Then look at the CSAT sights. Replace front and rear. Should do everything you need with irons plus it has a tritium front sight post so it's great for low light shooting.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:32:53 AM EDT
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LMT, you can pick them up cheap in the EE. I love the LMT sights. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:00:01 AM EDT
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I have a like new Daniel Defense stand alone rear sight I will trade you straight up.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:04:05 AM EDT
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I would use a carry handle during the acadamy, and put the MBUS on afterwards.
You'll be hard pressed to find something as rugged and inexpensive. Eta- you're also probably overthing firearms quals. Most are a joke. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:25:39 AM EDT
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I prefer the DD to the LMT (but LMT look better IMHO) because of the A1 style locking detent and smaller size/less rail space used/needed. The only need for the elevation adjustment is on a KD target range. I have never had the need or used elevation adjustments on a sight since '93. It is easier to learn and use your holdovers.....ie that target is far away so I will aim at the top of the body and still get a hit if they are close enough for me to see without magnification and considerate enough to stand still in the open.
I have seen many elevation wheels on A2 sights mysteriously move from rough handling/use/privates/armorers/who knows what.... Just use the MBUS unless you want a fixed rear sight. The DD A1.5 is the best choice function/price wise, with the LaRue in second. Most rifle qual courses are a joke anyway. The furthest you will shoot in most LE COF is 100 yards on a B-27 target. The NRA Patrol Rifle Instructor qual is 50 yards and in, although half is fired from the support side and a reduced target is used. Still not a hard course. Good luck with the Academy. Rob |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:33:32 AM EDT
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Any fixed rear sight will likely work.
Larue, DD, and if you're not anti Troy like many are will all work just the same. Budget and availability should be your concern here, and thats it! |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 10:52:22 AM EDT
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Personally, if I were you I would just stick with the magpul flip ups for training, since that's what you said you'll be using as a BUIS on patrol. Not sure about Kentucky, but for Alabama's carbine qualification the furthest you shoot is 50 yards, so you shouldn't have any issues with the Magpul.
And at least they let you bring your own rifle to the academy. I was in the first academy class here to do a rifle familiarization and they provided us with surplus A1's that probably hadn't been fired since 'Nam. lol |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 12:01:32 PM EDT
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Grab a decent fixed rear sight to go through the academy. If I were your academy firearm instructor I would say a carry handle, but to be honest a Daniel Defense fixed rear sight would be a nicer option as it is cheaper and there is no A2 knob to get knocked out of position. Once you get back to your department, get your folding sight zeroed and shoot your quals.
Welcome to LE work, but remember, you aren't even a rookie until you hit the street. For now, you are a Ookie, you haven't earned your R until your first call. 
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Posted: 4/24/2014 1:48:56 PM EDT
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Yeah they have some old ones but they encourage us to bring our department issue/personal. Basically whatever we'll be using on the street. Makes sense during rapid response training.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 1:50:10 PM EDT
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So carry handle is not as nice as the dd iron?
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Posted: 4/24/2014 1:51:13 PM EDT
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Thanks
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Posted: 4/24/2014 3:04:57 PM EDT
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LMT, you can pick them up cheap in the EE. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 3:33:25 PM EDT
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I am a big fan of the daniels defense fixed sight. this |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 3:58:42 PM EDT
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Matech or KAC.
I like to have windage and elevation adjustments.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 4:17:38 PM EDT
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Use whatever kind of sight you'd use as a backup to your optic. Kindof a waste to practice with something you won't be carrying, ya? e. This. If it's good enough after the academy it's good enough in the academy. |
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