If you've been following the TAC CON trigger thread, you know that although being a novel concept, many think the TAC CON offering has fallen a little short of end-user expectations. Lately, there has been an upswell of interest in having Geissele do a "Dual Mode" trigger with the intent not being to create a "Bump Fire" device but more along the lines of a duty-safe two stage SSA mode coupled with a more radical single stage S3G mode. There have been a couple of posts in the Industry section about it but I'd like to get the idea out to a larger reading audience to see what everyone thinks.




















 

I have a dozen or so products from each of those two manufactures but this wouldn't interest me.

I'd buy the set so long as it wasn't way over priced. Sounds like a fun concept, and I bet a lot of people would buy it.

There's a thread in GD. bill chimed in and it's already underway. Last post was at 9:35 it appears.

 

Of course, and his PA independent tester/reviewer awaits a sample!

I figured it would cost at least that much and it's definitely out of my price range.

I want a tri selector bang switch. Ill pretend I'm going full auto till I pull the trigger n snap back to reality.

I haven't been able to get over to the Geissele Industry Forum in a while, but I asked him about this about six months ago, and he told me that it could pretty easily be done, but that he was very reluctant to build a trigger that would require a three position selector that might cause a potential issue for a customer.  

If he is reconsidering one, I'd definitely be very interested in it - I'm not interested in bump firing, or any of that non-sense, however, I like the idea of a good single-stage trigger that can be used for more dynamic shooting scenarios that could be rotated to a good two-stage pull for a little bit more control and precision.  Basically a semi-SSF, with its two-stage semi-pull, and single-stage automatic pull, but again, obviously, semi-automatic only.  

I'd suggested doing a specific selector as well that would only be compatible with the trigger, either in house, or through partnership with BAD, which, I think, could probably avoid any possibility of being hemmed up for having an automatic selector in a semi-automatic only gun.

A great option, I think, would be to set the selector up so that the single stage pull was at the 90 degree position - allowing for muscle memory to the 90 degree "flick," and then the two-stage pull at the 45-50 degree, so that you can "click back" for a more precise pull - kind of like an AK selector.  You could even potentially make it into a four position selector for an "SSF II," giving you the capability to use the same lower for pretty much any purpose by just swapping the upper.  In something like a CM901... it would make for an interesting system.  

~Augee

assuming it had the usual geissele reliability, i'd pay a lot for it.

It will be the new standard and must haves for triggers.

I'm more interested in the two position trigger than how the selector looks.  I'd purchase the two position Geissele whether Battle Arms made the selector or not.

I don't care how a selector looks, I care about how it feels and operates. Battle Arms has shown that they know how to do them right. Also, their lever selections cater very well to the Southpaws among us. I figured Geissele hasn't done them yet and their R&D would delay bringing a product to market. If they were to collaborate with BAD, I would imagine it would be a fairly straightforward process as BAD is fully tooled up and makes selectors day-in/day-out.

 

Didn't Olympic do a set trigger more than 20 years ago, that was set by flipping the safety switch back to auto?  It was Olympic, or some other big name of the time.

BAD and G have to come together on this. Wish it could be done in BAD CASS but I know the cheapasses won't have it.

I am interested, and also wondering if it would be a flat or curved face trigger. Most likely curved since that is the standard, and more people would buy that vs a flat bow, but either way I hope they hit a home run.

I'd be interested in one that had a duty grade trigger pull in the semi position and a lighter SPR-precision type pull in the 3rd position.  That seems like a very practical set up to me.  Useful for duty/HD, SHTF and also for precision work w/o compromising safety in a high stress situation.

I also like the SSA/S3G combo idea.

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this is the way to go bump firing is a waste of ammo.

I like the idea, just too much money for me.

1) flat bow

2) ambi bad selector

3 never shot a "G" trigger but their reputation far precedes them so it is hard for me to comment on the configuration but it sounds like a SAFE / SSA / S3G  would cover a lot of bases. It would probably far out preform most of us weekend shooting range and deer hunting types.

4) sell it for around 325 with an initial group buy around 285 and you would make a lot of money up front.



As a member of the unwashed masses the above should mean nothing to the masterminds but I'm in the market for a new AR trigger so I'm very interested. If this brain child idea is so far superior to the current line them drop the super moniker and call it the FAT ( Fucking Awesome Trigger) or with the battle arms hardware the FAT ASS

Last call for votes!

Well, if yer gonna do it...you picked the two best companies in their respective fields to do it.

This would be awesome, i would love a trigger that offers a nice 2-stage pull in semi auto position but then a feather light trigger for rapid fire in the third position. Thats all the tac con trigger is anyways, and so many people are buying it just because of the third position.

I would buy one for 200-300 bucks. otherwise i'd not be interested.

I don't get the link to B.A.D.?  Why would they need to be involved?

It needs a 3rd position selector for the set trigger.

And some people want/need a ambi safety

BAD CASS. In for a penny, in for a pound. Might as well go full bore. Your already high end.

I see.

I suppose it is important to note that I would NOT be interested if there is no "factory" looking safety option.  That's the first thing I noticed/disliked about the 3MR.  I'd want a standard-looking non-ambi safety.  Or one that looks like a KAC model, if an ambi option is a must.  I've got a few clone rifles and one of those new-fangled goofy looking selectors would stick out like a sore thumb.

I think one of BAD's umpteen different levers will suit.  And they have a plain nub, for those of us who don't like ambi safeties.

Price and quality are key.

For what the TacCon is, it's way overpriced. In my review, it also had issues with a limp trigger (hammer follow). That being said, it's still a neat concept and if anybody can do it better it will be Geissele.

In! A match made in heaven!

Take my money

any progress on this?

I want to see this with a 2 stage( 12 oz. let off and 1 pound pre-travel ) and  the other selector position with a " fastest shooting trigger possible ". I also want the B.A.D.  selector with  short thin levers. I have high speed triggers in all four of my AR 15's. The 2 that are marked for auto with bullet pictograms would be replaced with this configuration if it becomes available. I would also use this configuration for a SBR build that I may have built.What are  my chances of obtaining this exact configuration??????????????? I don't even care which position is what. A high speed hammer built into this would be even better!!!!

Count me in.

ETA: As long as it actually works!