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Posted: 8/25/2015 3:10:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanCheese]
[#1]
That's a killer deal! I'm leaning towards the Griffin M4SD-K because it attaches to a standard A2. The clone Gods will curse me I know......
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Posted: 8/25/2015 3:16:44 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
That's a killer deal! I'm leaning towards the Griffin M4SD-K because it attaches to a standard A2. The clone Gods will curse me I know...... One of these may end up on my CQBR as well. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 3:29:48 PM EDT
[#3]
The Surefire or Griffin?
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Posted: 8/25/2015 4:01:16 PM EDT
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I think you'll kick yourself not buying the correct can if you're buying all the other correct parts as is.
That's my opinion at least. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 4:04:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MILSPEC556]
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
I think you'll kick yourself not buying the correct can if you're buying all the other correct parts as is. That's my opinion at least. This. Like I've said a quadrillion times now, If you buy the wrong part, no matter what it is, you're going to spend twice as much in the end. Because you will hate your clone incorrect existance, and still end up buying the correct part anyways. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 4:09:19 PM EDT
[#6]
true. I like my SF SOCOM but I still wish I had gone with an NT4. Definitely won't make that mistake with my HK416 clone. Get the right parts now, and you can save a bunch...or build another clone lol.
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Posted: 8/25/2015 4:24:43 PM EDT
[#7]
Yeah, go with the SOCOM deal IMO. I mean, I've got a 762-MINI SOCOM RC...the only noticeable differences being the bore diameter, the missing NSN, and the slightly louder noise...but I'm still tempted by this deal, because it's soo affordable, and it's mo betta in view of the Almighty
 I'm saving up right now for an AEM5 for my Mk12 stuff, so those funds are sorta locked - otherwise, I might be buying the 556 SOCOM RC right meow, as you all should be! |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 6:03:32 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
I think you'll kick yourself not buying the correct can if you're buying all the other correct parts as is. That's my opinion at least. So this^ You will buy the wrong shit and shame yourself to just the SBR Thread. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 6:09:42 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voodochild:
FYI those of you looking for a SOCOM can ARMS Unlimited has the 5.56 for $799.. Coming up on 2 months and still waiting for the Form 3 to clear. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 6:19:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tmender03: Coming up on 2 months and still waiting for the Form 3 to clear. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tmender03: Originally Posted By voodochild: FYI those of you looking for a SOCOM can ARMS Unlimited has the 5.56 for $799.. Coming up on 2 months and still waiting for the Form 3 to clear. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 6:29:08 PM EDT
[#11]
You guys are right, and make great arguments....but FML that means buying three Surefire FH to run the SOCOM on all my AR's. Any reason why running a SOCOM SB on my MK18 isn't kosher?
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Posted: 8/25/2015 6:31:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ECPrevatte]
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
You guys are right, and make great arguments....but FML that means buying three Surefire FH to run the SOCOM on all my AR's. Any reason why running a SOCOM SB on my MK18 isn't kosher? It's not kosher because it's not what is issued, but considering the 4P is a hard to find part and people have strong stances on brakes/suppressors lifetime you won't catch flak. And if you're talking about an actual MK18 they didn't use brakes either. It would most likely only be an NT4 suppressor FH or the 4P. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 6:38:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MILSPEC556]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
It's not kosher because it's not what is issued, but considering the 4P is a hard to find part and people have strong stances on brakes/suppressors lifetime you won't catch flak. And if you're talking about an actual MK18 they didn't use brakes either. It would most likely only be an NT4 suppressor FH or the 4P. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Originally Posted By AmericanCheese:
You guys are right, and make great arguments....but FML that means buying three Surefire FH to run the SOCOM on all my AR's. Any reason why running a SOCOM SB on my MK18 isn't kosher? It's not kosher because it's not what is issued, but considering the 4P is a hard to find part and people have strong stances on brakes/suppressors lifetime you won't catch flak. And if you're talking about an actual MK18 they didn't use brakes either. It would most likely only be an NT4 suppressor FH or the 4P. In agreeance with. Cheese, most if not all Mk18's I've seen pics of had the KAC M4QD. And incase you're referring to the block 1 CQBR as a Mk18, we've seen these with M4QD, SF4P, and 249F. And incase you're referring to a block II CQBR as a Mk18, these have mostly been seen with SF4P, and M4QD. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 6:51:53 PM EDT
[#14]
Ok so brass tax, what are the only "clone" worthy suppressors? You guys are confusing me.....which isn't hard to do btw.
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Posted: 8/25/2015 6:54:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MILSPEC556]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Ok so brass tax, what are the only "clone" worthy suppressors? You guys are confusing me.....which isn't hard to do btw. For the SOCOM/SOPMOD M4A1's, KAC NT4 and SF SOCOM |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 6:55:12 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Ok so brass tax, what are the only "clone" worthy suppressors? You guys are confusing me.....which isn't hard to do btw. SOCOM RC and KAC NT4. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 7:08:41 PM EDT
[#17]
Got it....any major differences between the Surefire RC and RC 2?
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Posted: 8/25/2015 7:09:54 PM EDT
[#18]
One has stronger welding. The SOCOM 2 isn't out yet either and isn't an issued (again if you want to clone).
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Posted: 8/25/2015 8:11:07 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
That's a killer deal! I'm leaning towards the Griffin M4SD-K because it attaches to a standard A2. The clone Gods will curse me I know...... I plan on rocking a Recce 5 on mine. Yes it isn't "clone correct" but I honestly am not that anal about it. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 8:27:39 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voodochild:
I plan on rocking a Recce 5 on mine. Yes it isn't "clone correct" but I honestly am not that anal about it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voodochild:
Originally Posted By AmericanCheese:
That's a killer deal! I'm leaning towards the Griffin M4SD-K because it attaches to a standard A2. The clone Gods will curse me I know...... I plan on rocking a Recce 5 on mine. Yes it isn't "clone correct" but I honestly am not that anal about it. One of my good friends is running the Recce with a taper mount and he absolutely loves it. The only drawback is the proprietary taper mount, but he said the lock up and design is GTG. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 8:55:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voodochild: FYI those of you looking for a SOCOM can ARMS Unlimited has the 5.56 for $799.. I think I may hold out for the socom 2 model. Maybe. Want both in .22 and .30 ...or may just the .22 and get the FA762SS for my .30.Also want .45 cab...would make me want to buy an FN45 Tac even more |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 8:57:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte: One has stronger welding. The SOCOM 2 isn't out yet either and isn't an issued (again if you want to clone). I'd go with the socom 2 model if money really isn't a factor. The only noticeable difference is the end cap. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 8:58:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan: I think I may hold out for the socom 2 model. Maybe. Want both in .22 and .30 ...or may just the .22 and get the FA762SS for my .30.Also want .45 cab...would make me want to buy an FN45 Tac even more Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By voodochild: FYI those of you looking for a SOCOM can ARMS Unlimited has the 5.56 for $799.. I think I may hold out for the socom 2 model. Maybe. Want both in .22 and .30 ...or may just the .22 and get the FA762SS for my .30.Also want .45 cab...would make me want to buy an FN45 Tac even more |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 8:59:57 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drewQ22:
Supposedly Surefire hasn't even made any yet this year which is why I jumped on the deal for the original RC. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drewQ22:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By voodochild:
FYI those of you looking for a SOCOM can ARMS Unlimited has the 5.56 for $799.. I think I may hold out for the socom 2 model. Maybe. Want both in .22 and .30 ...or may just the .22 and get the FA762SS for my .30.
Also want .45 cab...would make me want to buy an FN45 Tac even more
Yeah, I'd just snag an RC. I'm sure the RC2 will eventually be in use, but until then, they don't call it a clone for nothin' |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 9:16:07 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
I think I may hold out for the socom 2 model. Maybe. Want both in .22 and .30 ...or may just the .22 and get the FA762SS for my .30.
Also want .45 cab...would make me want to buy an FN45 Tac even more
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By voodochild:
FYI those of you looking for a SOCOM can ARMS Unlimited has the 5.56 for $799.. I think I may hold out for the socom 2 model. Maybe. Want both in .22 and .30 ...or may just the .22 and get the FA762SS for my .30.
Also want .45 cab...would make me want to buy an FN45 Tac even more
Do it!!! My FNX 45T has been a runner from day one. I'm looking at the Octane .45 over the Osprey, for some reason I just don't like it. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:35:01 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
The Surefire or Griffin? Griffin, but I'll probably end up getting a SOCOM eventually also. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:36:56 PM EDT
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I went with AAC Ti-Rant for my new FNH FXH 45 TACTICAL and I hoping that I get a call in the next month or two to come pick it up and bring my 2nd. silencer home. 1st. was two months ago SF SOCOM RC 5.56MM. And next will be a 9mm for my US NAVY SEALS Sig MK25. I own a Blk and FDE Version and one threaded barrel.
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Posted: 8/25/2015 10:40:32 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese: I did not know that AZ_SBR....my 18" Middy FDE RIS II upper build I ordered from DD should arrive this week so I will look out for the more "minimalist" markings. Your SBR is killer BTW. Yep that those old school DD uppers are sure MUCH cleaner than the new ones they use on built guns!  |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 11:19:39 AM EDT
[#29]
Not a true clone per se, but I'm pleased regardless. Just waiting on a couple last minute parts.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 2:14:29 PM EDT
[#30]
Just got the sit down at the computer for the first time in a few days. Sorry zakk101abn, but I finally got you added.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 2:18:53 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Just got the sit down at the computer for the first time in a few days. Sorry zakk101abn, but I finally got you added. https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5768/20877847266_b9a8aae6b3_o.jpg https://farm1.staticflickr.com/633/20911514531_8842f06186_o.jpg Noice, when's this shit end? Only has a couple days left, right? |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 2:22:18 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Noice, when's this shit end? Only has a couple days left, right? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Just got the sit down at the computer for the first time in a few days. Sorry zakk101abn, but I finally got you added. https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5768/20877847266_b9a8aae6b3_o.jpg https://farm1.staticflickr.com/633/20911514531_8842f06186_o.jpg Noice, when's this shit end? Only has a couple days left, right? End of the month. Better step on it and get in, bruh. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 2:24:29 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
End of the month. Better step on it and get in, bruh. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Just got the sit down at the computer for the first time in a few days. Sorry zakk101abn, but I finally got you added. https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5768/20877847266_b9a8aae6b3_o.jpg https://farm1.staticflickr.com/633/20911514531_8842f06186_o.jpg Noice, when's this shit end? Only has a couple days left, right? End of the month. Better step on it and get in, bruh. I'm gonna shoot for (pun intended) Fri-sun, somewheres in there. My 512 gets here today too, so I might as well. 262 or 318, that is ze question. Probably 262 |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 2:59:09 PM EDT
[#34]
Picked up first 10 Gas busters, shipping out first thing tomorrow. I used my Delta flight miles rewards card so it's a win win for everyone. I will PM all those who contacted me with details, and then after all payments clear, I will buy whatever is left and try and get everyone else hooked up.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 3:12:17 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Picked up first 10 Gas busters, shipping out first thing tomorrow. I used my Delta flight miles rewards card so it's a win win for everyone. I will PM all those who contacted me with details, and then after all payments clear, I will buy whatever is left and try and get everyone else hooked up. Awesome bro. DBM said he's buying me 2, so I'll shoot you my shipping info.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 3:21:53 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Awesome bro. DBM said he's buying me 2, so I'll shoot you my shipping info. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Picked up first 10 Gas busters, shipping out first thing tomorrow. I used my Delta flight miles rewards card so it's a win win for everyone. I will PM all those who contacted me with details, and then after all payments clear, I will buy whatever is left and try and get everyone else hooked up. Awesome bro. DBM said he's buying me 2, so I'll shoot you my shipping info. Hahaaaaaaaa, |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 3:25:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Hahaaaaaaaa, Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Picked up first 10 Gas busters, shipping out first thing tomorrow. I used my Delta flight miles rewards card so it's a win win for everyone. I will PM all those who contacted me with details, and then after all payments clear, I will buy whatever is left and try and get everyone else hooked up. Awesome bro. DBM said he's buying me 2, so I'll shoot you my shipping info. Hahaaaaaaaa, Don't worry cheese, he's laughing with me, not at me.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 3:42:20 PM EDT
[#38]
screw it...put me down for two, I will need them when I get my Surefire can!
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Posted: 8/26/2015 3:55:43 PM EDT
[#39]
Soooo I did a bad thing and built block 2.5 or 3
.... I forgot how hot these fuckers get. Now I'm kicking myself for not having gone w/ a mk18 risII rail  (I couldn't find any.)Does the mk18 ris get too hot to hold quickly? I know they all do at some point I just feel like w/ the geissele rail it got hot quick. I also have a metal laden support hand that may have been acting like a heat sink though. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 4:01:58 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drewQ22: Soooo I did a bad thing and built block 2.5 or 3 .... I forgot how hot these fuckers get. Now I'm kicking myself for not having gone w/ a mk18 risII rail (I couldn't find any.)Does the mk18 ris get too hot to hold quickly? I know they all do at some point I just feel like w/ the geissele rail it got hot quick. I also have a metal laden support hand that may have been acting like a heat sink though. DD rails don't have a heat shield either |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 4:18:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: drewQ22]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan: DD rails don't have a heat shield either Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By drewQ22: Soooo I did a bad thing and built block 2.5 or 3 .... I forgot how hot these fuckers get. Now I'm kicking myself for not having gone w/ a mk18 risII rail (I couldn't find any.)Does the mk18 ris get too hot to hold quickly? I know they all do at some point I just feel like w/ the geissele rail it got hot quick. I also have a metal laden support hand that may have been acting like a heat sink though. DD rails don't have a heat shield either ETA: I know w/ the socom bbl and m4a1 risII it seemed to take a lot longer to get hotter, but I guess the heavier profile bbl plays a big part in that. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 4:19:17 PM EDT
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I think I have an SU230 on the way. Now to decide what to do with my "civie" Elcan SpecterDR. Bought the "civie" to replace the Eotech, and was going to use the EO on the 300blk (10.3 DD/RisII), but now I can't decide to use the Eotech or the Elcan civie on it. Damn the bad luck!
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Posted: 8/26/2015 4:20:52 PM EDT
[#43]
Well I just had a surprise.
I got my package, and low and behold there was no 512 in it. 
There was a 552 in it. 
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Posted: 8/26/2015 4:25:37 PM EDT
[#44]
How does that change your clone build? Decisions.....
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Posted: 8/26/2015 4:26:39 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
How does that change your clone build? Decisions..... Not at all. It's most likely that S.R. I'm cloning has a 552 on it anyways |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 4:43:32 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drewQ22:
Yeah I know that. Just wondering if they don't get as hot due to more material/pic rails and the ability to put covers on them. I should just get some decent gloves I guess lol. ETA: I know w/ the socom bbl and m4a1 risII it seemed to take a lot longer to get hotter, but I guess the heavier profile bbl plays a big part in that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drewQ22:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By drewQ22:
Soooo I did a bad thing and built block 2.5 or 3 .... I forgot how hot these fuckers get. Now I'm kicking myself for not having gone w/ a mk18 risII rail (I couldn't find any.)
Does the mk18 ris get too hot to hold quickly? I know they all do at some point I just feel like w/ the geissele rail it got hot quick. I also have a metal laden support hand that may have been acting like a heat sink though. DD rails don't have a heat shield either ETA: I know w/ the socom bbl and m4a1 risII it seemed to take a lot longer to get hotter, but I guess the heavier profile bbl plays a big part in that. RIS II gets really hot after a couple of mags. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 4:49:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthGuy:
RIS II gets really hot after a couple of mags. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthGuy:
Originally Posted By drewQ22:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By drewQ22:
Soooo I did a bad thing and built block 2.5 or 3 .... I forgot how hot these fuckers get. Now I'm kicking myself for not having gone w/ a mk18 risII rail (I couldn't find any.)
Does the mk18 ris get too hot to hold quickly? I know they all do at some point I just feel like w/ the geissele rail it got hot quick. I also have a metal laden support hand that may have been acting like a heat sink though. DD rails don't have a heat shield either ETA: I know w/ the socom bbl and m4a1 risII it seemed to take a lot longer to get hotter, but I guess the heavier profile bbl plays a big part in that. RIS II gets really hot after a couple of mags. What happened to all the big bad 11B talk, Francis?
Jk. I still like you even when you're being a wuss. The SOCOM profile barrel makes a HUGE difference in barrel/rail heat over my gov pro's. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 4:49:26 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthGuy: RIS II gets really hot after a couple of mags. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthGuy: Originally Posted By drewQ22: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By drewQ22: Soooo I did a bad thing and built block 2.5 or 3 .... I forgot how hot these fuckers get. Now I'm kicking myself for not having gone w/ a mk18 risII rail (I couldn't find any.)Does the mk18 ris get too hot to hold quickly? I know they all do at some point I just feel like w/ the geissele rail it got hot quick. I also have a metal laden support hand that may have been acting like a heat sink though. DD rails don't have a heat shield either ETA: I know w/ the socom bbl and m4a1 risII it seemed to take a lot longer to get hotter, but I guess the heavier profile bbl plays a big part in that. RIS II gets really hot after a couple of mags. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 4:50:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556: What happened to all the big bad 11B talk, Francis? Jk. I still like you even when you're being a wuss. The SOCOM profile barrel makes a HUGE difference in barrel/rail heat over my gov pro's. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556: Originally Posted By StealthGuy: Originally Posted By drewQ22: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By drewQ22: Soooo I did a bad thing and built block 2.5 or 3 .... I forgot how hot these fuckers get. Now I'm kicking myself for not having gone w/ a mk18 risII rail (I couldn't find any.)Does the mk18 ris get too hot to hold quickly? I know they all do at some point I just feel like w/ the geissele rail it got hot quick. I also have a metal laden support hand that may have been acting like a heat sink though. DD rails don't have a heat shield either ETA: I know w/ the socom bbl and m4a1 risII it seemed to take a lot longer to get hotter, but I guess the heavier profile bbl plays a big part in that. RIS II gets really hot after a couple of mags. What happened to all the big bad 11B talk, Francis? Jk. I still like you even when you're being a wuss. The SOCOM profile barrel makes a HUGE difference in barrel/rail heat over my gov pro's. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 5:03:11 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drewQ22:
Yeah I know that. Just wondering if they don't get as hot due to more material/pic rails and the ability to put covers on them. I should just get some decent gloves I guess lol. ETA: I know w/ the socom bbl and m4a1 risII it seemed to take a lot longer to get hotter, but I guess the heavier profile bbl plays a big part in that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drewQ22:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By drewQ22:
Soooo I did a bad thing and built block 2.5 or 3 .... I forgot how hot these fuckers get. Now I'm kicking myself for not having gone w/ a mk18 risII rail (I couldn't find any.)
Does the mk18 ris get too hot to hold quickly? I know they all do at some point I just feel like w/ the geissele rail it got hot quick. I also have a metal laden support hand that may have been acting like a heat sink though. DD rails don't have a heat shield either ETA: I know w/ the socom bbl and m4a1 risII it seemed to take a lot longer to get hotter, but I guess the heavier profile bbl plays a big part in that. This. |
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