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Posted: 1/19/2015 11:19:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Do you like the Eotech that far back? I run mine as far back as possible. It keeps the balance point at the front of the magwell, but if i move it forward it becomes very front heavy which i find difficult to quickly acquire multiple targets. Plus i dont use a magnifier so i have no incentive to move it forward. Theres also a lot of argument about field of view and how it changes, all i know is the closer the eotech is to my eye the more i can see through the eotech, also the red circle is bigger which i like. For the most part its personal preference and the need to for space to mount optics. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 2:08:01 PM EDT
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I just shot with the surefire socom brake today for the first time since I installed it. WOW is all I can say, the rifle DOES NOT move, its pretty much like shooting a 22 rifle
 But DAMN the concussion is BRUTAL. For some reason this brake is the worst brake I've ever used as far as the pressure wave to the shooter.
Its great to stay on target for fast follow up shots, but I think I'll wait until the can gets released to shoot this rifle anymore 
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Posted: 1/19/2015 2:14:10 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
I just shot with the surefire socom brake today for the first time since I installed it. WOW is all I can say, the rifle DOES NOT move, its pretty much like shooting a 22 rifle But DAMN the concussion is BRUTAL. For some reason this brake is the worst brake I've ever used as far as the pressure wave to the shooter.
Its great to stay on target for fast follow up shots, but I think I'll wait until the can gets released to shoot this rifle anymore I noticed a big difference in the SF brake vs. AAC's brake. I must say though, if I shoot auto unsuppressed it'a a joy to keep on target. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 2:32:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bending_rodriguez]
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
I noticed a big difference in the SF brake vs. AAC's brake. I must say though, if I shoot auto unsuppressed it'a a joy to keep on target. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
I just shot with the surefire socom brake today for the first time since I installed it. WOW is all I can say, the rifle DOES NOT move, its pretty much like shooting a 22 rifle But DAMN the concussion is BRUTAL. For some reason this brake is the worst brake I've ever used as far as the pressure wave to the shooter.
Its great to stay on target for fast follow up shots, but I think I'll wait until the can gets released to shoot this rifle anymore I noticed a big difference in the SF brake vs. AAC's brake. I must say though, if I shoot auto unsuppressed it'a a joy to keep on target. I can fully understand how great this brake would be on a FA. Are you saying the SF is worse than the AAC as far as pressure, but works better? I think your agreeing? Haha, nice to know its not just me, if so. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 2:35:49 PM EDT
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Yeah I am agreeing with you.
The brake seems a tad bit more concussive, but it also seems to have much more of a fireball than than the AAC one. I was pretty surprised at the difference the first shot provided. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/19/2015 2:39:40 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spartikis:
I run mine as far back as possible. It keeps the balance point at the front of the magwell, but if i move it forward it becomes very front heavy which i find difficult to quickly acquire multiple targets. Plus i dont use a magnifier so i have no incentive to move it forward. Theres also a lot of argument about field of view and how it changes, all i know is the closer the eotech is to my eye the more i can see through the eotech, also the red circle is bigger which i like. For the most part its personal preference and the need to for space to mount optics. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spartikis:
Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Do you like the Eotech that far back? I run mine as far back as possible. It keeps the balance point at the front of the magwell, but if i move it forward it becomes very front heavy which i find difficult to quickly acquire multiple targets. Plus i dont use a magnifier so i have no incentive to move it forward. Theres also a lot of argument about field of view and how it changes, all i know is the closer the eotech is to my eye the more i can see through the eotech, also the red circle is bigger which i like. For the most part its personal preference and the need to for space to mount optics. Have you read anything that anyone else has written on this matter? There is no argument about FOV, there's just people who understand it and the people who don't. If you read all the info that has been posted you would, hopefully, understand it. regardless of where you decide to mount it, an Eotech is not a SCOPE, The FOV is not determined by what you see through it. If it is, you're doing it wrong. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 2:56:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Yeah I am agreeing with you. The brake seems a tad bit more concussive, but it also seems to have much more of a fireball than than the AAC one. I was pretty surprised at the difference the first shot provided. Gotcha, I thought so. Its certainly good at its job. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 3:02:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Gotcha, I thought so. Its certainly good at its job. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Yeah I am agreeing with you. The brake seems a tad bit more concussive, but it also seems to have much more of a fireball than than the AAC one. I was pretty surprised at the difference the first shot provided. Gotcha, I thought so. Its certainly good at its job. I have a few of the AAC ones and it does it's job pretty well too. I'm impressed with how flat it shoots....I try to avoid shooting it indoors though
The ports look smaller on the SF brake, maybe that is why it seems more concussive |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 3:05:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By G_MAN:
Have you read anything that anyone else has written on this matter? There is no argument about FOV, there's just people who understand it and the people who don't. If you read all the info that has been posted you would, hopefully, understand it. regardless of where you decide to mount it, an Eotech is not a SCOPE, The FOV is not determined by what you see through it. If it is, you're doing it wrong. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By G_MAN:
Originally Posted By Spartikis:
Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Do you like the Eotech that far back? I run mine as far back as possible. It keeps the balance point at the front of the magwell, but if i move it forward it becomes very front heavy which i find difficult to quickly acquire multiple targets. Plus i dont use a magnifier so i have no incentive to move it forward. Theres also a lot of argument about field of view and how it changes, all i know is the closer the eotech is to my eye the more i can see through the eotech, also the red circle is bigger which i like. For the most part its personal preference and the need to for space to mount optics. Have you read anything that anyone else has written on this matter? There is no argument about FOV, there's just people who understand it and the people who don't. If you read all the info that has been posted you would, hopefully, understand it. regardless of where you decide to mount it, an Eotech is not a SCOPE, The FOV is not determined by what you see through it. If it is, you're doing it wrong. Correct. If you're using an EOTech like a scope, you aren't using it correctly. Sure with it further back you can see a larger area through the window, but that is not how an EOTech is designed to be used. Your field of view comes from what you see outside of the window combined with the window, using a 2 eye open view. Greatest field of view (situational awareness) is with the EOTech mounted forward (battery compartment over delta ring or rail) And frankly, if you have it mounted way back, then you probably close 1 eye when using it too, in which case you're about as fucked up as you could possibly be, and should probably go get a scope. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 3:33:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2:
I have a few of the AAC ones and it does it's job pretty well too. I'm impressed with how flat it shoots....I try to avoid shooting it indoors though
The ports look smaller on the SF brake, maybe that is why it seems more concussive Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2:
Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Yeah I am agreeing with you. The brake seems a tad bit more concussive, but it also seems to have much more of a fireball than than the AAC one. I was pretty surprised at the difference the first shot provided. Gotcha, I thought so. Its certainly good at its job. I have a few of the AAC ones and it does it's job pretty well too. I'm impressed with how flat it shoots....I try to avoid shooting it indoors though
The ports look smaller on the SF brake, maybe that is why it seems more concussive Definitely not talking down on the AAC stuff, in fact my personal experience is only with the their comp and their FH. (the brake wont fit with the RIS II, so I was forced to use the comp). Im still using their comp with the SDN6 on my Mod 0. My experience with the brake comes from a buddy next to me shooting his 10.5" upper with the brake. It was bad, but I felt as the shooter, the SF was worse. So im not really comparing the two brakes, just commenting on how well the SF brake works.  If the SDN6 would have fit with the brake on a 10.3" barrel, I would have been using it there(without spacer, etc.)
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MN, USA
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:09:46 PM EDT
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Why is everyone so concerned with where he is mounting his EOTech, everyone's eye is different.
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SC, USA
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:17:55 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BOONEA:
Why is everyone so concerned with where he is mounting his EOTech, everyone's eye is different. Less where he is mounting it... more his rational for mounting it there. I don't think it matters that much.... i put mine where i feel it best balances the rifle since optics can be a significant % of a rifle's total weight. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:19:07 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BOONEA:
Why is everyone so concerned with where he is mounting his EOTech, everyone's eye is different. To make people more effective with their weapons. We're not talking prescription EOTech windows here, there is a correct way to use scopes, then there is the correct way to use a RDS. And they aren't the same method of use. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:35:38 PM EDT
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I guess I don't see the need to tell someone he's fucked up simply by where his EOTech is mounted. If it works for him, then it works for him. I've seen Canadian SOF mount their EOTechs on the rail, and have seen our SOF mount them all the way back. If it works for him, then it works for him. It seems you're basing placement off of where it is positioned without shooting any timed drills to see what placement is fastest.
Either way, I fail to understand how your comments relate to cloning a mk18. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:42:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BOONEA:
I guess I don't see the need to tell someone he's fucked up simply by where his EOTech is mounted. If it works for him, then it works for him. I've seen Canadian SOF mount their EOTechs on the rail, and have seen our SOF mount them all the way back. If it works for him, then it works for him. It seems you're basing placement off of where it is positioned without shooting any timed drills to see what placement is fastest. Either way, I fail to understand how your comments relate to cloning a mk18. Here we go again. I said if he was closing an eye, then hes fucked up. I dont see how your comments relate to cloning a mk 18 either, but hypocrite it up by all means. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 4:49:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AR-Ryan21]
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BOONEA:
I guess I don't see the need to tell someone he's fucked up simply by where his EOTech is mounted. If it works for him, then it works for him. I've seen Canadian SOF mount their EOTechs on the rail, and have seen our SOF mount them all the way back. If it works for him, then it works for him. It seems you're basing placement off of where it is positioned without shooting any timed drills to see what placement is fastest. Either way, I fail to understand how your comments relate to cloning a mk18. What you're missing is his reasoning for why he mounts his EoTech so far back. It's counter intuitive, and frankly, wrong. It sounds like he's using his RDS as a scope, which it certainly is not. An RDS is meant to be used with both eyes open. He's saying he gets greater FOV through the window with the EoTech mounted rearward. That says to me that he is using his EoTech like a scope, and not with both eyes open focusing on his environment, and not the RDS. Contrary to his comment, he'd actually be losing FOV with his EoTech mounted further back if it was being used properly (both eyes open). The closer the EoTech is to his eyes, the more it obstructs his FOV. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 1/19/2015 5:01:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: thornejc]
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
I can fully understand how great this brake would be on a FA. Are you saying the SF is worse than the AAC as far as pressure, but works better? I think your agreeing? Haha, nice to know its not just me, if so. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
I just shot with the surefire socom brake today for the first time since I installed it. WOW is all I can say, the rifle DOES NOT move, its pretty much like shooting a 22 rifle But DAMN the concussion is BRUTAL. For some reason this brake is the worst brake I've ever used as far as the pressure wave to the shooter.
Its great to stay on target for fast follow up shots, but I think I'll wait until the can gets released to shoot this rifle anymore I noticed a big difference in the SF brake vs. AAC's brake. I must say though, if I shoot auto unsuppressed it'a a joy to keep on target. I can fully understand how great this brake would be on a FA. Are you saying the SF is worse than the AAC as far as pressure, but works better? I think your agreeing? Haha, nice to know its not just me, if so. Maybe my SF brake is f***ed up but I don't notice much difference between the SF and AAC brake in FA or semi. I honestly expected the SF to be a lot "better" based on all the  OMG posts so maybe my high expectations played a roll in my "meh... seems the same to me" response to it. I'll have to go back out with both and look at it more objectively.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 5:04:55 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thornejc:
Maybe my SF brake is f***ed up but I don't notice much difference between the SF and AAC brake in FA or semi. I honestly expected the SF to be a lot "better" based on all the OMG posts so maybe my high expectations played a roll in my "meh... seems the same to me" response to it. I'll have to go back out with both and look at it more objectively.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thornejc:
Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
I just shot with the surefire socom brake today for the first time since I installed it. WOW is all I can say, the rifle DOES NOT move, its pretty much like shooting a 22 rifle But DAMN the concussion is BRUTAL. For some reason this brake is the worst brake I've ever used as far as the pressure wave to the shooter.
Its great to stay on target for fast follow up shots, but I think I'll wait until the can gets released to shoot this rifle anymore I noticed a big difference in the SF brake vs. AAC's brake. I must say though, if I shoot auto unsuppressed it'a a joy to keep on target. I can fully understand how great this brake would be on a FA. Are you saying the SF is worse than the AAC as far as pressure, but works better? I think your agreeing? Haha, nice to know its not just me, if so. Maybe my SF brake is f***ed up but I don't notice much difference between the SF and AAC brake in FA or semi. I honestly expected the SF to be a lot "better" based on all the OMG posts so maybe my high expectations played a roll in my "meh... seems the same to me" response to it. I'll have to go back out with both and look at it more objectively.
I should note, the difference wasn't in muzzle climb. It was in sound and muzzle flash. They both work well. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 5:32:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Eyekahn]
[#19]
Shot some distance today. Two videos of me shooting a 7x10in target at 300 and 400 yards. Pretty rapid fire and only using the mag as a rest. Not my best shooting but it gets the job done. The load I was shooting is about 2 moa and is ridiculously slow, very gassy, and has way too much felt recoil. IMR4064 is a terrible powder for 223! This rifle is amazing though even with shit ammo!
Edit: this was all using 55gr Hornady FMJ projectiles. I've made some MK262 clone loads. Ill have to get those out there next time. Turn volume up to hear the hits! 300 yards, 4/9 hits 400 yards, 4/10 hits Rifle: 
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Posted: 1/19/2015 5:36:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn:
Shot some distance today. Two videos of me shooting a 7x10in target at 300 and 400 yards. Pretty rapid fire and only using the mag as a rest. Not my best shooting but it gets the job done. The load I was shooting is about 2 moa and is ridiculously slow, very gassy, and has way too much felt recoil. IMR4064 is a terrible powder for 223! This rifle is amazing though even with shit ammo! Turn volume up to hear the hits! 300 yards, 4/9 hits <a href="http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/9371B3E0-37AC-4F05-BFFD-762557A7BA52_zpsmhlfpuqy.mp4" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/th_9371B3E0-37AC-4F05-BFFD-762557A7BA52_zpsmhlfpuqy.mp4</a> 400 yards, 4/10 hits <a href="http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/FC4F8481-FBDA-4BC7-889E-2A30F0CD9296_zpszrrgefby.mp4" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/th_FC4F8481-FBDA-4BC7-889E-2A30F0CD9296_zpszrrgefby.mp4</a> Rifle: <a href="http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/cwm556/media/C7918846-BDA0-4C47-BDC9-DD187C5EE261_zpso78gqh4x.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/C7918846-BDA0-4C47-BDC9-DD187C5EE261_zpso78gqh4x.jpg</a> What can cover is that? And nice scenery. Where you located? |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 5:39:04 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn:
Shot some distance today. Two videos of me shooting a 7x10in target at 300 and 400 yards. Pretty rapid fire and only using the mag as a rest. Not my best shooting but it gets the job done. The load I was shooting is about 2 moa and is ridiculously slow, very gassy, and has way too much felt recoil. IMR4064 is a terrible powder for 223! This rifle is amazing though even with shit ammo! Turn volume up to hear the hits! 300 yards, 4/9 hits <a href="http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/9371B3E0-37AC-4F05-BFFD-762557A7BA52_zpsmhlfpuqy.mp4" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/th_9371B3E0-37AC-4F05-BFFD-762557A7BA52_zpsmhlfpuqy.mp4</a> 400 yards, 4/10 hits <a href="http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/FC4F8481-FBDA-4BC7-889E-2A30F0CD9296_zpszrrgefby.mp4" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/th_FC4F8481-FBDA-4BC7-889E-2A30F0CD9296_zpszrrgefby.mp4</a> Rifle: <a href="http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/cwm556/media/C7918846-BDA0-4C47-BDC9-DD187C5EE261_zpso78gqh4x.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/C7918846-BDA0-4C47-BDC9-DD187C5EE261_zpso78gqh4x.jpg</a> I fucking love the look of a mk 18 with an SU-230. 
Although I think it's a better match for a 14.5 as far as useability, but on a mk 18 it just looks like it's at home. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 5:40:15 PM EDT
[#22]
UGHHH, i need a blockii upper. Blah.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 5:44:35 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
What can cover is that? And nice scenery. Where you located? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By Eyekahn:
Shot some distance today. Two videos of me shooting a 7x10in target at 300 and 400 yards. Pretty rapid fire and only using the mag as a rest. Not my best shooting but it gets the job done. The load I was shooting is about 2 moa and is ridiculously slow, very gassy, and has way too much felt recoil. IMR4064 is a terrible powder for 223! This rifle is amazing though even with shit ammo! Turn volume up to hear the hits! 300 yards, 4/9 hits <a href="http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/9371B3E0-37AC-4F05-BFFD-762557A7BA52_zpsmhlfpuqy.mp4" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/th_9371B3E0-37AC-4F05-BFFD-762557A7BA52_zpsmhlfpuqy.mp4</a> 400 yards, 4/10 hits <a href="http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/FC4F8481-FBDA-4BC7-889E-2A30F0CD9296_zpszrrgefby.mp4" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/th_FC4F8481-FBDA-4BC7-889E-2A30F0CD9296_zpszrrgefby.mp4</a> Rifle: <a href="http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/cwm556/media/C7918846-BDA0-4C47-BDC9-DD187C5EE261_zpso78gqh4x.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/C7918846-BDA0-4C47-BDC9-DD187C5EE261_zpso78gqh4x.jpg</a> What can cover is that? And nice scenery. Where you located? Rifles Only HAD South Eastern NC |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 5:46:02 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn:
Shot some distance today. Two videos of me shooting a 7x10in target at 300 and 400 yards. Pretty rapid fire and only using the mag as a rest. Not my best shooting but it gets the job done. The load I was shooting is about 2 moa and is ridiculously slow, very gassy, and has way too much felt recoil. IMR4064 is a terrible powder for 223! This rifle is amazing though even with shit ammo! Turn volume up to hear the hits! 300 yards, 4/9 hits <a href="http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/9371B3E0-37AC-4F05-BFFD-762557A7BA52_zpsmhlfpuqy.mp4" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/th_9371B3E0-37AC-4F05-BFFD-762557A7BA52_zpsmhlfpuqy.mp4</a> 400 yards, 4/10 hits <a href="http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/FC4F8481-FBDA-4BC7-889E-2A30F0CD9296_zpszrrgefby.mp4" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/th_FC4F8481-FBDA-4BC7-889E-2A30F0CD9296_zpszrrgefby.mp4</a> Rifle: <a href="http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/cwm556/media/C7918846-BDA0-4C47-BDC9-DD187C5EE261_zpso78gqh4x.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/C7918846-BDA0-4C47-BDC9-DD187C5EE261_zpso78gqh4x.jpg</a> Me like |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 5:47:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
I fucking love the look of a mk 18 with an SU-230.
Although I think it's a better match for a 14.5 as far as useability, but on a mk 18 it just looks like it's at home. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Eyekahn:
Shot some distance today. Two videos of me shooting a 7x10in target at 300 and 400 yards. Pretty rapid fire and only using the mag as a rest. Not my best shooting but it gets the job done. The load I was shooting is about 2 moa and is ridiculously slow, very gassy, and has way too much felt recoil. IMR4064 is a terrible powder for 223! This rifle is amazing though even with shit ammo! Turn volume up to hear the hits! 300 yards, 4/9 hits <a href="http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/9371B3E0-37AC-4F05-BFFD-762557A7BA52_zpsmhlfpuqy.mp4" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/th_9371B3E0-37AC-4F05-BFFD-762557A7BA52_zpsmhlfpuqy.mp4</a> 400 yards, 4/10 hits <a href="http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/FC4F8481-FBDA-4BC7-889E-2A30F0CD9296_zpszrrgefby.mp4" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/th_FC4F8481-FBDA-4BC7-889E-2A30F0CD9296_zpszrrgefby.mp4</a> Rifle: <a href="http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/cwm556/media/C7918846-BDA0-4C47-BDC9-DD187C5EE261_zpso78gqh4x.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/C7918846-BDA0-4C47-BDC9-DD187C5EE261_zpso78gqh4x.jpg</a> I fucking love the look of a mk 18 with an SU-230.
Although I think it's a better match for a 14.5 as far as useability, but on a mk 18 it just looks like it's at home. It was on my Block II M4 clone. I sold that upper once I got my lower approved. There is nothing the Block 2 can do that the CQBR can't. The Elcan is perfect for the CQBR. I ran the Block 2 for about 2 years and have never looked back after selling it. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 5:50:05 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn:
It was on my Block II M4 clone. I sold that upper once I got my lower approved. There is nothing the Block 2 can do that the CQBR can't. The Elcan is perfect for the CQBR. I ran the Block 2 for about 2 years and have never looked back after selling it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Eyekahn:
Shot some distance today. Two videos of me shooting a 7x10in target at 300 and 400 yards. Pretty rapid fire and only using the mag as a rest. Not my best shooting but it gets the job done. The load I was shooting is about 2 moa and is ridiculously slow, very gassy, and has way too much felt recoil. IMR4064 is a terrible powder for 223! This rifle is amazing though even with shit ammo! Turn volume up to hear the hits! 300 yards, 4/9 hits <a href="http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/9371B3E0-37AC-4F05-BFFD-762557A7BA52_zpsmhlfpuqy.mp4" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/th_9371B3E0-37AC-4F05-BFFD-762557A7BA52_zpsmhlfpuqy.mp4</a> 400 yards, 4/10 hits <a href="http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/FC4F8481-FBDA-4BC7-889E-2A30F0CD9296_zpszrrgefby.mp4" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/th_FC4F8481-FBDA-4BC7-889E-2A30F0CD9296_zpszrrgefby.mp4</a> Rifle: <a href="http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/cwm556/media/C7918846-BDA0-4C47-BDC9-DD187C5EE261_zpso78gqh4x.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/C7918846-BDA0-4C47-BDC9-DD187C5EE261_zpso78gqh4x.jpg</a> I fucking love the look of a mk 18 with an SU-230.
Although I think it's a better match for a 14.5 as far as useability, but on a mk 18 it just looks like it's at home. It was on my Block II M4 clone. I sold that upper once I got my lower approved. There is nothing the Block 2 can do that the CQBR can't. The Elcan is perfect for the CQBR. I ran the Block 2 for about 2 years and have never looked back after selling it. I got a little sidetracked, but what I was mainly trying to say was your mk 18 clone looks fucking perfect 
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Posted: 1/19/2015 5:58:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn:
Rifles Only HAD Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
What can cover is that? And nice scenery. Where you located? Rifles Only HAD Thanks. May have to check one out and see how it compares to my Griffon HMMS covers. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 5:58:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
I got a little sidetracked, but what I was mainly trying to say was your mk 18 clone looks fucking perfect Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Eyekahn:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Eyekahn:
Shot some distance today. Two videos of me shooting a 7x10in target at 300 and 400 yards. Pretty rapid fire and only using the mag as a rest. Not my best shooting but it gets the job done. The load I was shooting is about 2 moa and is ridiculously slow, very gassy, and has way too much felt recoil. IMR4064 is a terrible powder for 223! This rifle is amazing though even with shit ammo! Turn volume up to hear the hits! 300 yards, 4/9 hits <a href="http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/9371B3E0-37AC-4F05-BFFD-762557A7BA52_zpsmhlfpuqy.mp4" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/th_9371B3E0-37AC-4F05-BFFD-762557A7BA52_zpsmhlfpuqy.mp4</a> 400 yards, 4/10 hits <a href="http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/FC4F8481-FBDA-4BC7-889E-2A30F0CD9296_zpszrrgefby.mp4" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/th_FC4F8481-FBDA-4BC7-889E-2A30F0CD9296_zpszrrgefby.mp4</a> Rifle: <a href="http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/cwm556/media/C7918846-BDA0-4C47-BDC9-DD187C5EE261_zpso78gqh4x.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/C7918846-BDA0-4C47-BDC9-DD187C5EE261_zpso78gqh4x.jpg</a> I fucking love the look of a mk 18 with an SU-230.
Although I think it's a better match for a 14.5 as far as useability, but on a mk 18 it just looks like it's at home. It was on my Block II M4 clone. I sold that upper once I got my lower approved. There is nothing the Block 2 can do that the CQBR can't. The Elcan is perfect for the CQBR. I ran the Block 2 for about 2 years and have never looked back after selling it. I got a little sidetracked, but what I was mainly trying to say was your mk 18 clone looks fucking perfect 
Thanks buddy
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Posted: 1/19/2015 6:03:16 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Thanks. May have to check one out and see how it compares to my Griffon HMMS covers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By Eyekahn:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
What can cover is that? And nice scenery. Where you located? Rifles Only HAD Thanks. May have to check one out and see how it compares to my Griffon HMMS covers. I almost went griffon, the HAD was about 25 bucks cheaper and they have a 7.5in model, where griffon only had the 7in model. The SDN6 is 7.6in, so I wanted to cover it completely so I could put it away hot and not worry about the tip burning anything. I'd love to see a side by side testing of the two though because they both are great pieces of kit! |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 6:05:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn:
Thanks buddy
<a href="http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/cwm556/media/FDD59664-B3CD-45EF-80D9-7EE285B71B2A_zps8viny1md.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/FDD59664-B3CD-45EF-80D9-7EE285B71B2A_zps8viny1md.jpg</a> Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Eyekahn:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Eyekahn:
Shot some distance today. Two videos of me shooting a 7x10in target at 300 and 400 yards. Pretty rapid fire and only using the mag as a rest. Not my best shooting but it gets the job done. The load I was shooting is about 2 moa and is ridiculously slow, very gassy, and has way too much felt recoil. IMR4064 is a terrible powder for 223! This rifle is amazing though even with shit ammo! Turn volume up to hear the hits! 300 yards, 4/9 hits <a href="http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/9371B3E0-37AC-4F05-BFFD-762557A7BA52_zpsmhlfpuqy.mp4" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/th_9371B3E0-37AC-4F05-BFFD-762557A7BA52_zpsmhlfpuqy.mp4</a> 400 yards, 4/10 hits <a href="http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/FC4F8481-FBDA-4BC7-889E-2A30F0CD9296_zpszrrgefby.mp4" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/th_FC4F8481-FBDA-4BC7-889E-2A30F0CD9296_zpszrrgefby.mp4</a> Rifle: <a href="http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/cwm556/media/C7918846-BDA0-4C47-BDC9-DD187C5EE261_zpso78gqh4x.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/C7918846-BDA0-4C47-BDC9-DD187C5EE261_zpso78gqh4x.jpg</a> I fucking love the look of a mk 18 with an SU-230.
Although I think it's a better match for a 14.5 as far as useability, but on a mk 18 it just looks like it's at home. It was on my Block II M4 clone. I sold that upper once I got my lower approved. There is nothing the Block 2 can do that the CQBR can't. The Elcan is perfect for the CQBR. I ran the Block 2 for about 2 years and have never looked back after selling it. I got a little sidetracked, but what I was mainly trying to say was your mk 18 clone looks fucking perfect
Thanks buddy
<a href="http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/cwm556/media/FDD59664-B3CD-45EF-80D9-7EE285B71B2A_zps8viny1md.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/FDD59664-B3CD-45EF-80D9-7EE285B71B2A_zps8viny1md.jpg</a> Nice shootin and rifle as usual man! Now I wish youd invest in a good camera, or better phone
As was said your scenery, and what your doing in the videos are always great to watch, but the quality of the video leaves something to be desired
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Posted: 1/19/2015 6:07:09 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
I should note, the difference wasn't in muzzle climb. It was in sound and muzzle flash. They both work well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Originally Posted By thornejc:
Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
I just shot with the surefire socom brake today for the first time since I installed it. WOW is all I can say, the rifle DOES NOT move, its pretty much like shooting a 22 rifle But DAMN the concussion is BRUTAL. For some reason this brake is the worst brake I've ever used as far as the pressure wave to the shooter.
Its great to stay on target for fast follow up shots, but I think I'll wait until the can gets released to shoot this rifle anymore I noticed a big difference in the SF brake vs. AAC's brake. I must say though, if I shoot auto unsuppressed it'a a joy to keep on target. I can fully understand how great this brake would be on a FA. Are you saying the SF is worse than the AAC as far as pressure, but works better? I think your agreeing? Haha, nice to know its not just me, if so. Maybe my SF brake is f***ed up but I don't notice much difference between the SF and AAC brake in FA or semi. I honestly expected the SF to be a lot "better" based on all the OMG posts so maybe my high expectations played a roll in my "meh... seems the same to me" response to it. I'll have to go back out with both and look at it more objectively.
I should note, the difference wasn't in muzzle climb. It was in sound and muzzle flash. They both work well. I agree totally. My experience was with a MB762 and an AAC brake on the same rifle. The surefire was noticeably louder behind the rifle and had much more flash even at 12 noon in summer. I think the AAC brake being shorter has something to do with it. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 6:08:50 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn:
I almost went griffon, the HAD was about 25 bucks cheaper and they have a 7.5in model, where griffon only had the 7in model. The SDN6 is 7.6in, so I wanted to cover it completely so I could put it away hot and not worry about the tip burning anything. I'd love to see a side by side testing of the two though because they both are great pieces of kit! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By Eyekahn:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
What can cover is that? And nice scenery. Where you located? Rifles Only HAD Thanks. May have to check one out and see how it compares to my Griffon HMMS covers. I almost went griffon, the HAD was about 25 bucks cheaper and they have a 7.5in model, where griffon only had the 7in model. The SDN6 is 7.6in, so I wanted to cover it completely so I could put it away hot and not worry about the tip burning anything. I'd love to see a side by side testing of the two though because they both are great pieces of kit! Griffon has a 7.5" size. It's their "Middy" model. I have one of them on my SDN-6, and just like the HAD, it covers the can completely. I have a Griffon HMMS in 5", 6" and 7.5". I'm still interested to check out a HAD for a side by side comparison though. I've long been waiting for Griffon to release their Kryptek Highlander models. Well, the HAD is already available in Kryptek Highlander.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 6:13:12 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Nice shootin and rifle as usual man! Now I wish youd invest in a good camera, or better phone
As was said your scenery, and what your doing in the videos are always great to watch, but the quality of the video leaves something to be desired I'm accepting donations for a solid camera!  Me and RTUtah are going to have a sick range day/night soon. Ill see if I can borrow a good camera for those shenanigans!
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Posted: 1/19/2015 6:16:04 PM EDT
[#34]
Anyone have grouping sizes with m855 or mk262 at 100yds with a blockii?
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Posted: 1/19/2015 6:16:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Eyekahn]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Griffon has a 7.5" size. It's their "Middy" model. I have one of them on my SDN-6, and just like the HAD, it covers the can completely. I have a Griffon HMMS in 5", 6" and 7.5". I'm still interested to check out a HAD for a side by side comparison though. I've long been waiting for Griffon to release their Kryptek Highlander models. Well, the HAD is already available in Kryptek Highlander. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By Eyekahn:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By Eyekahn:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
What can cover is that? And nice scenery. Where you located? Rifles Only HAD Thanks. May have to check one out and see how it compares to my Griffon HMMS covers. I almost went griffon, the HAD was about 25 bucks cheaper and they have a 7.5in model, where griffon only had the 7in model. The SDN6 is 7.6in, so I wanted to cover it completely so I could put it away hot and not worry about the tip burning anything. I'd love to see a side by side testing of the two though because they both are great pieces of kit! Griffon has a 7.5" size. It's their "Middy" model. I have one of them on my SDN-6, and just like the HAD, it covers the can completely. I have a Griffon HMMS in 5", 6" and 7.5". I'm still interested to check out a HAD for a side by side comparison though. I've long been waiting for Griffon to release their Kryptek Highlander models. Well, the HAD is already available in Kryptek Highlander. Oh man! I must have missed that the middy was 7.5. I thought it was 7! Either way both are sweet! On a side note highlander is really growing on me. I might switch to that for hunting next season. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 6:19:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Eyekahn]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pbjunkiee:
Anyone have grouping sizes with m855 or mk262 at 100yds with a blockii? My MK262 clone was .9moa at 100 yards in two 5 shot groups with Elcan, bipod, and rear bag. Using a DD barrel and Colt bolt. 2400fps at sea level Load was LC brass 24gr of RE15 CCI 400 77 SMK Haven't shot loaded MK262 yet but I'd think the results would be very similar. I'm gonna zero for those next time I'm out and shoot those at distance. I've heard MK262 groups way better at 200 than 100... |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 7:08:20 PM EDT
[#37]
About to break out the spray paint, the weather is nice here in west TX. Ill be back with pics.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 7:15:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
About to break out the spray paint, the weather is nice here in west TX. Ill be back with pics. You gonna paint the rail too?
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Posted: 1/19/2015 7:24:17 PM EDT
[#39]
Moved the EOTech up. Looks pretty good to me. Gonna hit the range to really try it out ASAP.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 7:31:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drb022:
Moved the EOTech up. Looks pretty good to me. Gonna hit the range to really try it out ASAP. http://<a href=http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t281/drb022/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsb4dcc4a0.jpg</a>" /> Nice! Every time I see that butt naked extension It almost makes me want to give you the money to stamp that lower. Almost.
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Posted: 1/19/2015 7:42:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DontBuryMe]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
You gonna paint the rail too?
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
About to break out the spray paint, the weather is nice here in west TX. Ill be back with pics. You gonna paint the rail too?
I've got an RAS, that ain't no thang for me lol. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 7:55:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
I've got an RAS, that ain't no thang for me lol. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
About to break out the spray paint, the weather is nice here in west TX. Ill be back with pics. You gonna paint the rail too?
I've got an RAS, that ain't no thang for me lol. Oh, I forgot you had a CQBR lol. Spray it up home slizzle! My RAS on my block 1.5 is still green and the rest of the rifle I stripped the paint off of, looks like shit together when I take a pic with the flash on. I seriously need to go get different paint, the colors I bought all sucked. Might try krylon this time, or maybe Aervoe |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 8:09:25 PM EDT
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Surefire has just released the new SOCOM cans. 556 RC.2, 556 mini.2, 762 RC.2, 762 mini.2. Now I'll be spending more money on surefire cans
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Posted: 1/19/2015 8:19:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2015 8:24:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Desertvago44:
Surefire has just released the new SOCOM cans. 556 RC.2, 556 mini.2, 762 RC.2, 762 mini.2. Now I'll be spending more money on surefire cans I can't find anything on this. Could you tell us more about it? |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 8:28:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thunder79:
I can't find anything on this. Could you tell us more about it? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thunder79:
Originally Posted By Desertvago44:
Surefire has just released the new SOCOM cans. 556 RC.2, 556 mini.2, 762 RC.2, 762 mini.2. Now I'll be spending more money on surefire cans I can't find anything on this. Could you tell us more about it? Go to the suppressor sub forum. There's a video on Surefire's 2015 line up. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 8:32:12 PM EDT
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[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthGuy:
Go to the suppressor sub forum. There's a video on Surefire's 2015 line up. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthGuy:
Originally Posted By Thunder79:
Originally Posted By Desertvago44:
Surefire has just released the new SOCOM cans. 556 RC.2, 556 mini.2, 762 RC.2, 762 mini.2. Now I'll be spending more money on surefire cans I can't find anything on this. Could you tell us more about it? Go to the suppressor sub forum. There's a video on Surefire's 2015 line up. Surefire 2015 Lineup If you watch the whole video, they're also coming out with a Scout that utilizes AA batts. Only 200 lumen output, though. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 8:32:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthGuy:
Go to the suppressor sub forum. There's a video on Surefire's 2015 line up. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthGuy:
Originally Posted By Thunder79:
Originally Posted By Desertvago44:
Surefire has just released the new SOCOM cans. 556 RC.2, 556 mini.2, 762 RC.2, 762 mini.2. Now I'll be spending more money on surefire cans I can't find anything on this. Could you tell us more about it? Go to the suppressor sub forum. There's a video on Surefire's 2015 line up. The video was released on the Surefire YouTube channel. Video is called 2015 new products. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 8:38:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Desertvago44:
The video was released on the Surefire YouTube channel. Video is called 2015 new products. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Desertvago44:
Originally Posted By StealthGuy:
Originally Posted By Thunder79:
Originally Posted By Desertvago44:
Surefire has just released the new SOCOM cans. 556 RC.2, 556 mini.2, 762 RC.2, 762 mini.2. Now I'll be spending more money on surefire cans I can't find anything on this. Could you tell us more about it? Go to the suppressor sub forum. There's a video on Surefire's 2015 line up. The video was released on the Surefire YouTube channel. Video is called 2015 new products. The video shows a different end plate; however, I didn't see any other "upgrades" mentioned. |
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