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Posted: 7/16/2016 2:32:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
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One thing I've noticed with MARSOC recently they get three uppers issued where SEALs and SF usually deploy with only two (other's locked up at home station I'm assuming as they have to be turned back in as originally issued). Those three are a Block II 10.3" and 14.5" and a standard M4A1 14.5" FSB KAC RIS all with KAC NT4 FH. SEALS and SF have a DD Mk18 RIS II 10.3 low profile and 14.5" either a M4A1 DD RIS II low profile or FSB. Each with the Surefire 4P FH.
Mk18-1 and HK45c 
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Posted: 7/16/2016 11:33:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: One thing I've noticed with MARSOC recently they get three uppers issued where SEALs and SF usually deploy with only two (other's locked up at home station I'm assuming as they have to be turned back in as originally issued). Those three are a Block II 10.3" and 14.5" and a standard M4A1 14.5" FSB KAC RIS all with KAC NT4 FH. SEALS and SF have a DD Mk18 RIS II 10.3 low profile and 14.5" either a M4A1 DD RIS II low profile or FSB. Each with the Surefire 4P FH. Mk18-1 and HK45c http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/IMG_2203_rz.JPG CD  - how are the serial markings put on the uppers? What I mean is, are the serial numbers on the uppers a sticker of some kind, are they stenciled on, are the numbers laser-engraved, etc? ...I for one have plans for another CQBR clone, and I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to reproduce the upper serial number
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Posted: 7/16/2016 12:33:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CloneDiseased:
^ Solid info - thanks for sharing. Sorry for all the questions but your posts just raise more - how are the serial markings put on the uppers? What I mean is, are the serial numbers on the uppers a sticker of some kind, are they stenciled on, are the numbers laser-engraved, etc? ...I for one have plans for another CQBR clone, and I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to reproduce the upper serial number Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CloneDiseased:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
One thing I've noticed with MARSOC recently they get three uppers issued where SEALs and SF usually deploy with only two (other's locked up at home station I'm assuming as they have to be turned back in as originally issued). Those three are a Block II 10.3" and 14.5" and a standard M4A1 14.5" FSB KAC RIS all with KAC NT4 FH. SEALS and SF have a DD Mk18 RIS II 10.3 low profile and 14.5" either a M4A1 DD RIS II low profile or FSB. Each with the Surefire 4P FH. Mk18-1 and HK45c http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/IMG_2203_rz.JPG CD - how are the serial markings put on the uppers? What I mean is, are the serial numbers on the uppers a sticker of some kind, are they stenciled on, are the numbers laser-engraved, etc? ...I for one have plans for another CQBR clone, and I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to reproduce the upper serial number I would say etched or laser engraved (not positive). I'll look closer next time I work on one. Stuck in transit at point B between A and C. CD |
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WV, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2016 1:11:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CloneDiseased:
^ Solid info - thanks for sharing. Sorry for all the questions but your posts just raise more - how are the serial markings put on the uppers? What I mean is, are the serial numbers on the uppers a sticker of some kind, are they stenciled on, are the numbers laser-engraved, etc? ...I for one have plans for another CQBR clone, and I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to reproduce the upper serial number Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CloneDiseased:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
One thing I've noticed with MARSOC recently they get three uppers issued where SEALs and SF usually deploy with only two (other's locked up at home station I'm assuming as they have to be turned back in as originally issued). Those three are a Block II 10.3" and 14.5" and a standard M4A1 14.5" FSB KAC RIS all with KAC NT4 FH. SEALS and SF have a DD Mk18 RIS II 10.3 low profile and 14.5" either a M4A1 DD RIS II low profile or FSB. Each with the Surefire 4P FH. Mk18-1 and HK45c http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/IMG_2203_rz.JPG CD - how are the serial markings put on the uppers? What I mean is, are the serial numbers on the uppers a sticker of some kind, are they stenciled on, are the numbers laser-engraved, etc? ...I for one have plans for another CQBR clone, and I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to reproduce the upper serial number could be worth a look when the time comes? |
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Posted: 7/16/2016 1:36:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: markhateen]
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Many local trophy shops have computer controlled Fiber lasers these days. They are down to around $800 a month to rent/lease now. If you research "industrial laser engraving" in your area you will most likely find one. I'd try that route before sending it anywhere. With the computer the laser displays the work before it cuts so ask the operator if you can check out the work first
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2016 8:40:07 PM EDT
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2016 8:43:49 PM EDT
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Got a few more parts in, just waiting on my LMT lower to get back.
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WV, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2016 8:48:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By INFIDELSF85:
Got a few more parts in, just waiting on my LMT lower to get back. http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd348/warpathkennels/13716250_1032618523488022_3150042186155869916_n_zps44fstrcl.jpg Verrrniiice..... 
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NC, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2016 8:57:50 PM EDT
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Have there ever been any pics of a cqbr with fixed fsp, kac ras, AND aimpoint micro? I've seen the pic with RIS ii sans fsb and micro obviously.
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Posted: 7/17/2016 1:35:54 AM EDT
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Just trying to make the most ridiculous CQBR possible. Close I think. |
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Posted: 7/17/2016 2:34:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/KcTa8T" target="_blank">https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7554/28357803925_a4074662cb_b.jpg</a> Just trying to make the most ridiculous CQBR possible. Close I think. reported because airsoft
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Posted: 7/17/2016 9:52:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/KcTa8T" target="_blank">https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7554/28357803925_a4074662cb_b.jpg</a> Just trying to make the most ridiculous CQBR possible. Close I think. This is what I used to do in my arms room. "How much shit can I put on a rifle?" |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 7/17/2016 10:22:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/KcTa8T" target="_blank">https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7554/28357803925_a4074662cb_b.jpg</a> Just trying to make the most ridiculous CQBR possible. Close I think. What about getting one of those underslung shotguns? The M26 Modular Accessory Shotgun System. You could mount it sideways on one of the side rails. |
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Posted: 7/17/2016 10:32:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/17/2016 11:40:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/KcTa8T" target="_blank">https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7554/28357803925_a4074662cb_b.jpg</a> Just trying to make the most ridiculous CQBR possible. Close I think. Airsofter
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Posted: 7/17/2016 12:27:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Airsofter Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/KcTa8T" target="_blank">https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7554/28357803925_a4074662cb_b.jpg</a> Just trying to make the most ridiculous CQBR possible. Close I think. Airsofter Lol MNRides, that rifle is clean as hell. |
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Posted: 7/17/2016 2:40:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Lol MNRides, that rifle is clean as hell. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/KcTa8T" target="_blank">https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7554/28357803925_a4074662cb_b.jpg</a> Just trying to make the most ridiculous CQBR possible. Close I think. Airsofter Lol MNRides, that rifle is clean as hell. Too clean. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/17/2016 9:04:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/KcTa8T" target="_blank">https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7554/28357803925_a4074662cb_b.jpg</a> Just trying to make the most ridiculous CQBR possible. Close I think. PSQ-18, I remember when we got these in 2005. Seemed like a piece of equipment EVERY team leader left off their 203 without hesitation.. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 7/17/2016 9:06:09 PM EDT
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Fellas. Got a M951 for sale right now. Wanted to extend dibs to you guys first. If you are interested, PM me.
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Posted: 7/17/2016 9:17:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Teufelhunden1:
PSQ-18, I remember when we got these in 2005. Seemed like a piece of equipment EVERY team leader left off their 203 without hesitation.. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Teufelhunden1:
Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/KcTa8T" target="_blank">https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7554/28357803925_a4074662cb_b.jpg</a> Just trying to make the most ridiculous CQBR possible. Close I think. PSQ-18, I remember when we got these in 2005. Seemed like a piece of equipment EVERY team leader left off their 203 without hesitation.. A few of us got them in '10 right before Afg. No one even bothered to take them to the range, let alone even mount them.
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Posted: 7/17/2016 10:31:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
A few of us got them in '10 right before Afg. No one even bothered to take them to the range, let alone even mount them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By Teufelhunden1:
Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/KcTa8T" target="_blank">https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7554/28357803925_a4074662cb_b.jpg</a> Just trying to make the most ridiculous CQBR possible. Close I think. PSQ-18, I remember when we got these in 2005. Seemed like a piece of equipment EVERY team leader left off their 203 without hesitation.. A few of us got them in '10 right before Afg. No one even bothered to take them to the range, let alone even mount them. Just like the SU-253s. Never left the arms room/tough box they were brought in. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2016 12:31:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
One thing I've noticed with MARSOC recently they get three uppers issued where SEALs and SF usually deploy with only two (other's locked up at home station I'm assuming as they have to be turned back in as originally issued). Those three are a Block II 10.3" and 14.5" and a standard M4A1 14.5" FSB KAC RIS all with KAC NT4 FH. SEALS and SF have a DD Mk18 RIS II 10.3 low profile and 14.5" either a M4A1 DD RIS II low profile or FSB. Each with the Surefire 4P FH. Mk18-1 and HK45c CD CD, as far as optics goes, arything in use besides Eotechs and Elcans or are they still the majority being used? |
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Posted: 7/18/2016 1:50:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
No they've never rarely  used SOCOM barrels on CQBRs.
Govt and SOCOM on 14.5. Not the 10.3" |
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Posted: 7/18/2016 3:59:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iluvmy86:
CD, as far as optics goes, arything in use besides Eotechs and Elcans or are they still the majority being used? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iluvmy86:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
One thing I've noticed with MARSOC recently they get three uppers issued where SEALs and SF usually deploy with only two (other's locked up at home station I'm assuming as they have to be turned back in as originally issued). Those three are a Block II 10.3" and 14.5" and a standard M4A1 14.5" FSB KAC RIS all with KAC NT4 FH. SEALS and SF have a DD Mk18 RIS II 10.3 low profile and 14.5" either a M4A1 DD RIS II low profile or FSB. Each with the Surefire 4P FH. Mk18-1 and HK45c CD CD, as far as optics goes, arything in use besides Eotechs and Elcans or are they still the majority being used? MARSOC prefers the TA31 ACOG. CD |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2016 1:28:58 PM EDT
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10.3 Colt barrels in stock at a Place with a G and an R in the name... Just ordered one myself after months of waiting.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2016 8:11:39 PM EDT
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Im curious for those of you with 10.5 Mod 0 uppers, do you guys prefer AR15 BCG's or Full Auto BCG's? Also what buffers and springs are you guys typically running? I have a 10.5 AndroCorp Industies upper so not 100% sure on the gas block size but I had a friend who gave me his AR15 BCG. Debating on switching over to a heavier full auto BCG and a H2 buffer or if a AR15 BCG will work fine, my LMT lower comes with just a carbine buffer. Curious what some of you guys are running
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WI, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2016 8:27:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
MARSOC prefers the TA31 ACOG. CD Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Originally Posted By iluvmy86:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
One thing I've noticed with MARSOC recently they get three uppers issued where SEALs and SF usually deploy with only two (other's locked up at home station I'm assuming as they have to be turned back in as originally issued). Those three are a Block II 10.3" and 14.5" and a standard M4A1 14.5" FSB KAC RIS all with KAC NT4 FH. SEALS and SF have a DD Mk18 RIS II 10.3 low profile and 14.5" either a M4A1 DD RIS II low profile or FSB. Each with the Surefire 4P FH. Mk18-1 and HK45c CD CD, as far as optics goes, arything in use besides Eotechs and Elcans or are they still the majority being used? MARSOC prefers the TA31 ACOG. CD On CQBR's? Block I and II? Seems like more of an M4 type optic. |
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Posted: 7/18/2016 8:52:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
On CQBR's? Block I and II? Seems like more of an M4 type optic. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Originally Posted By iluvmy86:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
One thing I've noticed with MARSOC recently they get three uppers issued where SEALs and SF usually deploy with only two (other's locked up at home station I'm assuming as they have to be turned back in as originally issued). Those three are a Block II 10.3" and 14.5" and a standard M4A1 14.5" FSB KAC RIS all with KAC NT4 FH. SEALS and SF have a DD Mk18 RIS II 10.3 low profile and 14.5" either a M4A1 DD RIS II low profile or FSB. Each with the Surefire 4P FH. Mk18-1 and HK45c CD CD, as far as optics goes, arything in use besides Eotechs and Elcans or are they still the majority being used? MARSOC prefers the TA31 ACOG. CD On CQBR's? Block I and II? Seems like more of an M4 type optic. What the fuck do you think CQBRs, Block 1s, and Block 2s are? Pellet guns? Here's a hint: They're all the same thing with the exception of different furniture and one having a shorter barrel. ACOGs are the standard issue optic for the Marine Corps, so Marine's are already very familiar with it and they are already in the system. It makes sense some would prefer that optic over others. 
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2016 9:02:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TurbineGuy:
What the fuck do you think CQBRs, Block 1s, and Block 2s are? Pellet guns? Here's a hint: They're all the same thing with the exception of different furniture and one having a shorter barrel. ACOGs are the standard issue optic for the Marine Corps, so Marine's are already very familiar with it and they are already in the system. It makes sense some would prefer that optic over others. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TurbineGuy:
Originally Posted By JJREA:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Originally Posted By iluvmy86:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
One thing I've noticed with MARSOC recently they get three uppers issued where SEALs and SF usually deploy with only two (other's locked up at home station I'm assuming as they have to be turned back in as originally issued). Those three are a Block II 10.3" and 14.5" and a standard M4A1 14.5" FSB KAC RIS all with KAC NT4 FH. SEALS and SF have a DD Mk18 RIS II 10.3 low profile and 14.5" either a M4A1 DD RIS II low profile or FSB. Each with the Surefire 4P FH. Mk18-1 and HK45c CD CD, as far as optics goes, arything in use besides Eotechs and Elcans or are they still the majority being used? MARSOC prefers the TA31 ACOG. CD On CQBR's? Block I and II? Seems like more of an M4 type optic. What the fuck do you think CQBRs, Block 1s, and Block 2s are? Pellet guns? Here's a hint: They're all the same thing with the exception of different furniture and one having a shorter barrel. ACOGs are the standard issue optic for the Marine Corps, so Marine's are already very familiar with it and they are already in the system. It makes sense some would prefer that optic over others. Someone needs a Snickers. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2016 9:33:34 PM EDT
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2016 9:48:36 PM EDT
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KY, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2016 10:20:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rgb:
http://<a href=http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/rbreden/Mobile%20Uploads/73C168D3-20EE-4D03-8534-904092255FB6_zpsfdtwpfvl.jpg</a>" /> Dude we gotta find you some NLS #22's. Otherwise beautiful pair! |
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Posted: 7/18/2016 10:49:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By my69camaro1:
10.3 Colt barrels in stock at a Place with a G and an R in the name... Just ordered one myself after months of waiting. they must not have had many, they were OOS at 6pm cst! |
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Posted: 7/18/2016 10:50:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rgb:
http://<a href=http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/rbreden/Mobile%20Uploads/73C168D3-20EE-4D03-8534-904092255FB6_zpsfdtwpfvl.jpg</a>" /> One of the things I regret ever selling was my NF 2.5-10 X 24... I should have bit the bullet and sent in in to NF for the upgrades I wanted. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2016 11:27:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
MARSOC prefers the TA31 ACOG. CD Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Originally Posted By iluvmy86:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
One thing I've noticed with MARSOC recently they get three uppers issued where SEALs and SF usually deploy with only two (other's locked up at home station I'm assuming as they have to be turned back in as originally issued). Those three are a Block II 10.3" and 14.5" and a standard M4A1 14.5" FSB KAC RIS all with KAC NT4 FH. SEALS and SF have a DD Mk18 RIS II 10.3 low profile and 14.5" either a M4A1 DD RIS II low profile or FSB. Each with the Surefire 4P FH. Mk18-1 and HK45c CD CD, as far as optics goes, arything in use besides Eotechs and Elcans or are they still the majority being used? MARSOC prefers the TA31 ACOG. CD Some MARSOC rifles from the Friends of MARSOC event a couple weeks ago at Pendleton. 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2016 11:51:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By my69camaro1:
10.3 Colt barrels in stock at a Place with a G and an R in the name... Just ordered one myself after months of waiting. Telling me there's not enough stock. Guess I missed out |
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Posted: 7/19/2016 12:28:57 PM EDT
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Fresh off the face books
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Posted: 7/19/2016 12:36:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sweatpants:
Fresh off the face books https://i.imgur.com/pntc0Wc.jpg https://i.imgur.com/3qD2jFg.jpg What are those people doing in my garage?!?! |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 7/19/2016 1:38:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JJREA]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TurbineGuy:
What the fuck do you think CQBRs, Block 1s, and Block 2s are? Pellet guns? Here's a hint: They're all the same thing with the exception of different furniture and one having a shorter barrel. ACOGs are the standard issue optic for the Marine Corps, so Marine's are already very familiar with it and they are already in the system. It makes sense some would prefer that optic over others. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TurbineGuy:
Originally Posted By JJREA:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Originally Posted By iluvmy86:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
One thing I've noticed with MARSOC recently they get three uppers issued where SEALs and SF usually deploy with only two (other's locked up at home station I'm assuming as they have to be turned back in as originally issued). Those three are a Block II 10.3" and 14.5" and a standard M4A1 14.5" FSB KAC RIS all with KAC NT4 FH. SEALS and SF have a DD Mk18 RIS II 10.3 low profile and 14.5" either a M4A1 DD RIS II low profile or FSB. Each with the Surefire 4P FH. Mk18-1 and HK45c CD CD, as far as optics goes, arything in use besides Eotechs and Elcans or are they still the majority being used? MARSOC prefers the TA31 ACOG. CD On CQBR's? Block I and II? Seems like more of an M4 type optic. What the fuck do you think CQBRs, Block 1s, and Block 2s are? Pellet guns? Here's a hint: They're all the same thing with the exception of different furniture and one having a shorter barrel. ACOGs are the standard issue optic for the Marine Corps, so Marine's are already very familiar with it and they are already in the system. It makes sense some would prefer that optic over others. I know all that, but you don't see too many pics of ACOG's on them and there definitely seems to be more RDS seen on them. But your point is valid. I know they are capable of being shot a pretty fair poke. Now, let me say this, in my other thread you jumped all over me, I asked nicely if people wanted to help me out with my questions. So I have no clue why you came in my thread, have a shitfit because I'm asking questions that annoy you. You didn't have to even go in there. I'm not sure what I did to make you so angry with me, but I'm sorry that I do. I don't mean to. But dude, you might need a little bit of live and let live in your life. We can't all be as smart as you. |
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Posted: 7/19/2016 1:53:45 PM EDT
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We can't all be as smart as you.
Impossible. |
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WV, USA
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Posted: 7/19/2016 2:00:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheGreatDanton:
We can't all be as smart as you. Impossible. Unpossible FIFY... I think what JJ is really referring to was the barrel length vs. the velocity drop and really being able to use the calibrated reticle of the ACOG effectively at distance on a CQBR. While the platform is designed for CQB situations and not for shooting groups at 400 or 600 meters, I can understand where he's coming from.... Plus, not all of us can afford Elcans.
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Posted: 7/19/2016 2:05:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sweatpants:
Fresh off the face books https://i.imgur.com/pntc0Wc.jpg https://i.imgur.com/3qD2jFg.jpg All I need is for someone to "look away" for 10 minutes and "drop" the keys to the AHA. 
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WI, USA
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Posted: 7/19/2016 2:19:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JJREA]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrFrZZ:
FIFY... I think what JJ is really referring to was the barrel length vs. the velocity drop and really being able to use the calibrated reticle of the ACOG effectively at distance on a CQBR. While the platform is designed for CQB situations and not for shooting groups at 400 or 600 meters, I can understand where he's coming from.... Plus, not all of us can afford Elcans.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrFrZZ:
Originally Posted By TheGreatDanton:
We can't all be as smart as you. Impossible. Unpossible FIFY... I think what JJ is really referring to was the barrel length vs. the velocity drop and really being able to use the calibrated reticle of the ACOG effectively at distance on a CQBR. While the platform is designed for CQB situations and not for shooting groups at 400 or 600 meters, I can understand where he's coming from.... Plus, not all of us can afford Elcans.
I actually forgot about the calibration thing.  But I was thinking Close Quarters meant Close Quarters and I would think RDS are the better choice for that. But I do remember KevinB saying that their 11.5 SBR's were working out to 400 meters with a can and M855. Except I think they were running eotechs on their AR's at the time. I'm sure it would be much easier to make hits at 400 with an ACOG. But I hear talk of people struggling with the BAC at close range. So......
I think we need some pics of CQBR's with ACOGs on them. CD????? 
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Posted: 7/19/2016 2:21:14 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrFrZZ:
FIFY... I think what JJ is really referring to was the barrel length vs. the velocity drop and really being able to use the calibrated reticle of the ACOG effectively at distance on a CQBR. While the platform is designed for CQB situations and not for shooting groups at 400 or 600 meters, I can understand where he's coming from.... Plus, not all of us can afford Elcans.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrFrZZ:
Originally Posted By TheGreatDanton:
We can't all be as smart as you. Impossible. Unpossible FIFY... I think what JJ is really referring to was the barrel length vs. the velocity drop and really being able to use the calibrated reticle of the ACOG effectively at distance on a CQBR. While the platform is designed for CQB situations and not for shooting groups at 400 or 600 meters, I can understand where he's coming from.... Plus, not all of us can afford Elcans.
I agree and your edit made me laugh out loud. |
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Posted: 7/19/2016 3:10:59 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
I actually forgot about the calibration thing. But I was thinking Close Quarters meant Close Quarters and I would think RDS are the better choice for that. But I do remember KevinB saying that their 11.5 SBR's were working out to 400 meters with a can and M855. Except I think they were running eotechs on their AR's at the time. I'm sure it would be much easier to make hits at 400 with an ACOG. But I hear talk of people struggling with the BAC at close range. So......
I think we need some pics of CQBR's with ACOGs on them. CD????? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
Originally Posted By MrFrZZ:
Originally Posted By TheGreatDanton:
We can't all be as smart as you. Impossible. Unpossible FIFY... I think what JJ is really referring to was the barrel length vs. the velocity drop and really being able to use the calibrated reticle of the ACOG effectively at distance on a CQBR. While the platform is designed for CQB situations and not for shooting groups at 400 or 600 meters, I can understand where he's coming from.... Plus, not all of us can afford Elcans.
I actually forgot about the calibration thing. But I was thinking Close Quarters meant Close Quarters and I would think RDS are the better choice for that. But I do remember KevinB saying that their 11.5 SBR's were working out to 400 meters with a can and M855. Except I think they were running eotechs on their AR's at the time. I'm sure it would be much easier to make hits at 400 with an ACOG. But I hear talk of people struggling with the BAC at close range. So......
I think we need some pics of CQBR's with ACOGs on them. CD????? I'll see what I can do. Most the Marines where I'm at the moment are support for MARSOC and they're just running standard M4s with ACOGs. CD |
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Posted: 7/19/2016 3:54:29 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
I'll see what I can do. Most the Marines where I'm at the moment are support for MARSOC and they're just running standard M4s with ACOGs. CD Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Originally Posted By JJREA:
Originally Posted By MrFrZZ:
Originally Posted By TheGreatDanton:
We can't all be as smart as you. Impossible. Unpossible FIFY... I think what JJ is really referring to was the barrel length vs. the velocity drop and really being able to use the calibrated reticle of the ACOG effectively at distance on a CQBR. While the platform is designed for CQB situations and not for shooting groups at 400 or 600 meters, I can understand where he's coming from.... Plus, not all of us can afford Elcans.
I actually forgot about the calibration thing. But I was thinking Close Quarters meant Close Quarters and I would think RDS are the better choice for that. But I do remember KevinB saying that their 11.5 SBR's were working out to 400 meters with a can and M855. Except I think they were running eotechs on their AR's at the time. I'm sure it would be much easier to make hits at 400 with an ACOG. But I hear talk of people struggling with the BAC at close range. So......
I think we need some pics of CQBR's with ACOGs on them. CD????? I'll see what I can do. Most the Marines where I'm at the moment are support for MARSOC and they're just running standard M4s with ACOGs. CD My guess is if you post a pic, we'll see some of the guys on here try it out and we'll get more pics of clones that way. But they won't be able to post in the mini recce thread because they call out a variable optic. booooooo hehehehe
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Posted: 7/19/2016 4:05:11 PM EDT
[#47]
I think I can do that.
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Posted: 7/19/2016 4:07:28 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21:
I think I can do that. https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8023/27801638803_57e9674130_b.jpg S.A.F. Nice work. |
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Posted: 7/19/2016 4:50:59 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sweatpants:
Fresh off the face books https://i.imgur.com/pntc0Wc.jpg https://i.imgur.com/3qD2jFg.jpg Gen 2 SOPMOD stocks. |
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Posted: 7/19/2016 7:08:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21:
I think I can do that. https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8023/27801638803_57e9674130_b.jpg U devil dog you.
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