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Posted: 5/10/2017 10:05:23 AM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jormungandr:
going down tomorrow to do the paperwork on a factory dd mk18....this is gonna be a long wait  |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 1:24:27 PM EDT
[#2]
For all you guys who have used a 80% "Colt" lower (ala Braceman) for your SBR, what do i need to have additionally/differently engraved to ensure that the lower is GTG when i go ahead and register it.
It will obviously have the cal/serial on it, do I just need to have it say my name/location as manufacturer instead of "colt/hartford ct"? |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 4:58:22 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2:
Buy a Colt lower to SBR and one of the DD mk18 uppers from Brownells. Much better clonage 
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2017 7:19:47 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jormungandr:
Not gonna be doing a clone really, just always wanted a and and figured I'd go with the mk18. It'll be wearing a surefire Socom 556 at least *Takes jormungandr aside, whispers conspiratorially* Be careful my friend, such loose talk can be dangerous. One can be sent to the CQBR Re-education Camps for the wrong BUIS; many are never heard from again. I carry this cyanide capsule in case I'm caught with a 10.5 barrel instead of a 10.3. One can never be too careful... the Clone Party has ears everywhere. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 7:24:28 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
Not gonna build a clone?! What manner of blasphemy is this?! Long live the Clone Party! Long live our glorious CQBR Republic! *Takes jormungandr aside, whispers conspiratorially* Be careful my friend, such loose talk can be dangerous. One can be sent to the CQBR Re-education Camps for the wrong BUIS; many are never heard from again. I carry this cyanide capsule in case I'm caught with a 10.5 barrel instead of a 10.3. One can never be too careful... the Clone Party has ears everywhere. 
the current plan for the gun is a sopmod stock, bcm grip, geissele ssae, aimpoint t2 micro, KAC buis, surefire light idk which model yet, surefire warcomp and the 556 rc2. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2017 7:38:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: krdt]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jormungandr:
ha!
the current plan for the gun is a sopmod stock, bcm grip, geissele ssae, aimpoint t2 micro, KAC buis, surefire light idk which model yet, surefire warcomp and the 556 rc2. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 9:19:46 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
If you're planning on swapping the stock, grip, FH and trigger I'd get a stripped lower/Mk18 upper from Brownells instead of the full Mk18 SBR from DD. Toss a Colt or DD LPK minus FCG in it and you're GTG. That way you're not paying for a bunch of shit that you won't use and it saves the hassle of reselling the parts at a loss. Plus, you can slap a brace on it and play with it while you wait on the whims of the federal bureaucracy. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 11:11:51 PM EDT
[#8]
300BLK CQBR
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Posted: 5/11/2017 12:23:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Munzy]
[#9]
If anyone is looking for a mk18 fsp cutout RIS II there's one in the Facebook group 'Cool Guy Gear' for a meager sum of $1350
In reference to my sig line
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Posted: 5/11/2017 1:45:32 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drago6:
For all you guys who have used a 80% "Colt" lower (ala Braceman) for your SBR, what do i need to have additionally/differently engraved to ensure that the lower is GTG when i go ahead and register it. It will obviously have the cal/serial on it, do I just need to have it say my name/location as manufacturer instead of "colt/hartford ct"? |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 1:51:14 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2:
Buy a Colt lower to SBR and one of the DD mk18 uppers from Brownells. Much better clonage |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2017 4:19:08 AM EDT
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I have a Dumb Question. How much on a steel ruler is 10.5 shorter than 10.3 ? 1/4 Inch or longer? Please don't laugh at me or say Smart Ass remarks. I don't know.
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Posted: 5/11/2017 4:38:23 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lawdog-1:
I have a Dumb Question. How much on a steel ruler is 10.5 shorter than 10.3 ? 1/4 Inch or longer? Please don't laugh at me or say Smart Ass remarks. I don't know. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2017 5:36:46 AM EDT
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That is what I thought it was it 1/4 of a Inch.
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IL, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2017 6:07:34 AM EDT
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A quarter inch is .250 inches, the difference between the two barrels is .200.
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Posted: 5/11/2017 7:30:18 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lueds24:
A quarter inch is .250 inches, the difference between the two barrels is .200. |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 8:55:29 AM EDT
[#17]
It's 1/5".
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Posted: 5/11/2017 9:15:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: pezboytate]
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Logrus:
It's 1/5".  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 1:39:44 PM EDT
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Well....it IS closer to a quarter inch than an eighth inch. 10.5 - 10.3 is .2. Quarter inch is .250, or fifty thou difference. An eighth inch is .125, or .075 less than .200. Therefor, it is closer to a quarter inch difference than it is an eighth inch.
In reality, it is closer to 3/16, or .187 on a ruler or tape measure. |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 2:00:57 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stoner25mkiv:
Well....it IS closer to a quarter inch than an eighth inch. 10.5 - 10.3 is .2. Quarter inch is .250, or fifty thou difference. An eighth inch is .125, or .075 less than .200. Therefor, it is closer to a quarter inch difference than it is an eighth inch. In reality, it is closer to 3/16, or .187 on a ruler or tape measure. |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 4:09:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Roadblock]
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By White_knight:
this ^ . i dont like my DD lower, and the stupid billboard upper. it really cheapens it, thank god for sparypaint. Need a DD lower for a non-Clone project. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2017 4:37:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: krdt]
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lawdog-1:
I have a Dumb Question. How much on a steel ruler is 10.5 shorter than 10.3 ? 1/4 Inch or longer? Please don't laugh at me or say Smart Ass remarks. I don't know. 
Assuming the thread length of this Noveske is also .60, I guess that means my 10.5 is actually closer to 10.6 :\. |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 7:31:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: White_knight]
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
I'd trade a you COLT M4 complete lower but damnit, yoru in CDN! :D Need a DD lower for a non-Clone project. |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 8:14:57 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By White_knight:
this ^ . i dont like my DD lower, and the stupid billboard upper. it really cheapens it, thank god for sparypaint. i agree about the upper, the 5.56 bullet and MK18 on the side looks dumb. |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 8:28:06 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jormungandr:
what dont you like about the DD lower? i agree about the upper, the 5.56 bullet and MK18 on the side looks dumb. |
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Posted: 5/12/2017 2:49:21 PM EDT
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I put the T1 on for a photo for a buddy and now I think I like it better than the FDE EXPS3 that was on it.... ugh
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Posted: 5/12/2017 2:55:33 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2:
Buy a Colt lower to SBR and one of the DD mk18 uppers from Brownells. Much better clonage Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2:
Originally Posted By Jormungandr:
going down tomorrow to do the paperwork on a factory dd mk18....this is gonna be a long wait I even got a hold of a DD lower during the 2008 0bama panic. I though about putting my DD URG on it for a complete DD CQBR...and then decided WTF, that's not right...and I used the DD lower for something else. |
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Posted: 5/12/2017 3:39:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/12/2017 4:00:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/81153/20170512-134416-1040x585-207008.JPG Continue with the pic thread 
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Posted: 5/12/2017 6:13:10 PM EDT
[#30]
any good source for stripped colt lowers besides gunbroker?
also which roll mark should i go for? m4 carbine or le6920? gonna build a mk18 pistol to use until my factory one comes in, form 1 gonna go in for this one so ill have 2 eventually. |
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Posted: 5/12/2017 8:06:56 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
My DD Mk18 stripped upper should arrive from Brownells today, woo! I've been doing my version of that "Track Santa" thing that NORAD does every year, only it's "Track The Mk18 Upper." Debating on whether to break out the rattle cans and laundry bag on the Mod 0 in the meantime, but it's scary business. I'm skeered. I need to man up goddammit... or at the very least, get liquored up. Still haven't decided if I'm going to just keep the Noveske 10.5 until it's worn out and then get a 10.3 for it, or just do it now. That .2 inches, I swear. It eats at you. When I was buying it I was thinking, "It's .2 inches, what is the difference?" Oh, what a sweet summer child I was; now it's starting to look like 2 feet. ETA: The DD Mk18 upper came in from Brownells. Gotta say, it's pretty damn snazzy. Just one thing that is a bit irritating; it has two small gouges at the front of the Mk18 RIS II. Not even sure how they got there, as they are on the inside edge. Sure, I use my guns and they will eventually get nicked and scratched, I just prefer to put those marks there myself. Not really enough to send it back, but they should at least offer me a discount. I bought a "new" product, after all; the RIS II is verging on being a blem. It comes with a plastic ejection port cover as well, which is kind of meh. Expected a standard milspec cover. They also forgot to put in the crush washer I ordered :\. Overall, still happy. http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/DD.Mk18/mk18.urg-01.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/DD.Mk18/mk18.urg-02.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/DD.Mk18/mk18.urg-04.jpg |
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Posted: 5/12/2017 8:29:30 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burn4glock:
i just ordered one of these. anyone know what colt dust cover is the right one? there is like 5 on brownells Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burn4glock:
Originally Posted By krdt:
My DD Mk18 stripped upper should arrive from Brownells today, woo! I've been doing my version of that "Track Santa" thing that NORAD does every year, only it's "Track The Mk18 Upper." Debating on whether to break out the rattle cans and laundry bag on the Mod 0 in the meantime, but it's scary business. I'm skeered. I need to man up goddammit... or at the very least, get liquored up. Still haven't decided if I'm going to just keep the Noveske 10.5 until it's worn out and then get a 10.3 for it, or just do it now. That .2 inches, I swear. It eats at you. When I was buying it I was thinking, "It's .2 inches, what is the difference?" Oh, what a sweet summer child I was; now it's starting to look like 2 feet. ETA: The DD Mk18 upper came in from Brownells. Gotta say, it's pretty damn snazzy. Just one thing that is a bit irritating; it has two small gouges at the front of the Mk18 RIS II. Not even sure how they got there, as they are on the inside edge. Sure, I use my guns and they will eventually get nicked and scratched, I just prefer to put those marks there myself. Not really enough to send it back, but they should at least offer me a discount. I bought a "new" product, after all; the RIS II is verging on being a blem. It comes with a plastic ejection port cover as well, which is kind of meh. Expected a standard milspec cover. They also forgot to put in the crush washer I ordered :\. Overall, still happy. http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/DD.Mk18/mk18.urg-01.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/DD.Mk18/mk18.urg-02.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/DD.Mk18/mk18.urg-04.jpg |
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Posted: 5/12/2017 11:19:08 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stoner25mkiv:
Well....it IS closer to a quarter inch than an eighth inch. 10.5 - 10.3 is .2. Quarter inch is .250, or fifty thou difference. An eighth inch is .125, or .075 less than .200. Therefor, it is closer to a quarter inch difference than it is an eighth inch. In reality, it is closer to 3/16, or .187 on a ruler or tape measure. |
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Posted: 5/12/2017 11:21:15 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jormungandr:
any good source for stripped colt lowers besides gunbroker? also which roll mark should i go for? m4 carbine or le6920? gonna build a mk18 pistol to use until my factory one comes in, form 1 gonna go in for this one so ill have 2 eventually. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 2:09:22 AM EDT
[#35]
Awesome thread guys, very inspiring! I have a Strike Fighter 10.3 barrel that was shipped out today and was planning to just do a MK18 inspired build, but now I'm actually tempted by the clone lifestyle here. EPIC thread!
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:45:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHOS7:
Awesome thread guys, very inspiring! I have a Strike Fighter 10.3 barrel that was shipped out today and was planning to just do a MK18 inspired build, but now I'm actually tempted by the clone lifestyle here. EPIC thread! |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 1:33:32 PM EDT
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Well at the moment I'm contracting in Afghanistan, problem is I have 2 other builds planned for when I return state side.., one being an AR10
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Posted: 5/13/2017 4:08:18 PM EDT
[#38]
Were any MK18/CQBR rifles select fire?
Building one probably this summer on an 07/SOT and would like to know if that would be clone correct or not. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 4:20:58 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilenceThis:
Were any MK18/CQBR rifles select fire? Building one probably this summer on an 07/SOT and would like to know if that would be clone correct or not. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 4:25:22 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate:
They were all safe/semi/auto as far as I know. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 5:52:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: krdt]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jormungandr:
any good source for stripped colt lowers besides gunbroker? also which roll mark should i go for? m4 carbine or le6920? gonna build a mk18 pistol to use until my factory one comes in, form 1 gonna go in for this one so ill have 2 eventually. http://www.specializedarmament.com/ar-15-lower-receivers-parts/colt-lower-receiver-%E2%80%94-m4-carbine-1/ http://www.specializedarmament.com/ar-15-lower-receivers-parts/colt-lower-receiver-%E2%80%94-m4-carbine-2/ Those are the "M4 Carbine" marked lowers, which are probably the only type of Colt stripped lowers you're going to find with remotely correct markings. There are a few others who occasionally have the "M4 Carbine" stripped lowers in stock, like G&R Tactical. ArmsUnlimited has some Colt "Piston Carbine" marked lowers, but who wants that? The more desirable "M4A1 Carbine" marked LE6920 Socom lowers are probably all going to be factory rifle take-offs. I don't think they were ever offered as a stripped lower alone, but I could be wrong. Be careful if you're buying from Gunbroker to build a pistol (or anywhere for that matter); make sure they aren't take-offs from a factory rifle. On a related note, you want to make sure your FFL marks it as "Other" on the 4473 and not "Rifle" by accident. You can build pistol to rifle to pistol, but you can't go rifle to pistol... more idiotic intricacies from the ATF. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 6:13:56 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
As far as where to get Colt stripped lowers with the right markings; it's kind of tough. SA has them, but at the usual SA prices. http://www.specializedarmament.com/ar-15-lower-receivers-parts/colt-lower-receiver-%E2%80%94-m4-carbine-1/ http://www.specializedarmament.com/ar-15-lower-receivers-parts/colt-lower-receiver-%E2%80%94-m4-carbine-2/ Those are the "M4 Carbine" marked lowers, which are probably the only type of Colt stripped lowers you're going to find with remotely correct markings. There are a few others who occasionally have the "M4 Carbine" stripped lowers in stock, like G&R Tactical. ArmsUnlimited has some Colt "Piston Carbine" marked lowers, but who wants that? The more desirable "M4A1 Carbine" marked LE6920 Socom lowers are probably all going to be factory rifle take-offs. I don't think they were ever offered as a stripped lower alone, but I could be wrong. Be careful if you're buying from Gunbroker to build a pistol (or anywhere for that matter); make sure they aren't take-offs from a factory rifle. On a related note, you want to make sure your FFL marks it as "Other" on the 4473 and not "Rifle" by accident. You can build pistol to rifle to pistol, but you can't go rifle to pistol... more idiotic intricacies from the ATF. I was looking at this one - http://www.gunbroker.com/item/646083322 look legit or should i go for a different one? |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 8:35:25 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilenceThis:
Were any MK18/CQBR rifles select fire? Building one probably this summer on an 07/SOT and would like to know if that would be clone correct or not. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 8:49:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: krdt]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jormungandr:
thanks. I was looking at this one - http://www.gunbroker.com/item/646083322 look legit or should i go for a different one? ETA: Not sure what is going on with the take down pin hole in this picture. Looks almost marred or irregular. Could just be the light. Might want to ask for another photo, cause it looks a little wonky to me. 
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Posted: 5/13/2017 9:47:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2017 10:50:55 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
Price seems more or less in line with what those are going for (around $250, give or take). You can find stripped Colt lowers without the M4 markings for about $150, but it is what it is. I would just verify with the seller that it was never assembled before bidding and you're probably GTG. ETA: Not sure what is going on with the take down pin hole in this picture. Looks almost marred or irregular. Could just be the light. Might want to ask for another photo, cause it looks a little wonky to me. http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/646083000/646083322/pix133463072.jpg |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 10:52:39 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChrisWMT:
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4164/34256239440_48ebe75dd3_b.jpg 
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Posted: 5/14/2017 12:06:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: krdt]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Looks like a reflection to me. Looks like they oiled the shit out of it for the pics. |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 12:51:09 AM EDT
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Started this stripped lower as a clone and it ended up as a pistola....really liked it for a clone due to the "semi" instead of "fire" and having intact selector stops but , the rollmark wasn't correct, ( Ambush ). It's posted in it's finished form in the ar pistol forum. I still plan to do a clone for this thread but it'll be a bit until more parts come in.
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Posted: 5/14/2017 1:48:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate:
They were all safe/semi/auto as far as I know. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate:
Originally Posted By SilenceThis:
Were any MK18/CQBR rifles select fire? Building one probably this summer on an 07/SOT and would like to know if that would be clone correct or not. ALL! |
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