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Posted: 1/14/2016 6:30:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoshAston:
Ballistic Advantage makes a 10.3" pencil barrel that weighs 17 ounces. Odin Works makes a 10.5" that weighs 15.5 ounces. https://www.odinworks.com/223_Wylde_ULTRAlite_10_5_Carbine_p/b-223-10-ul-c.htm Are odin barrels any good? Im thinking i might want to pick one of those up if they have good reviews. Its 2.9 oz lighter than the DD 10.3" barrel im using now |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2016 7:59:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ahrion]
[#2]
From what I've been reading the V7 upper w/ FA and m4 feed ramps is roughly somewhere between 6.8 and 6.9 oz. V7 says 6.8
So far it's the lightest upper with FA I've seen. The v7 aluminum forward assist is 9.2 grams. Add that as well. Strike industries polymer dust cover is 0.3 oz Anyone have an approx weight of the JP heavy silent captured spring, stock buffer tube, pws enhanced buffer tube mod1/2, as well as well as the JoeBob trigger adjuster screw and hogue over molded grip? |
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USA
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Posted: 1/14/2016 9:02:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AT1222]
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ahrion:
From what I've been reading the V7 upper w/ FA and m4 feed ramps is roughly somewhere between 6.8 and 6.9 oz. V7 says 6.8 So far it's the lightest upper with FA I've seen. The v7 aluminum forward assist is 9.2 grams. Add that as well. Strike industries polymer dust cover is 0.3 oz Anyone have an approx weight of the JP heavy silent captured spring, stock buffer tube, pws enhanced buffer tube mod1/2, as well as well as the JoeBob trigger adjuster screw and hogue over molded grip? My aero upper with FA and m4 ramps weighed exactly 200 grams on my kitchen scale which is 7.05oz Check out the DS arms enhanced light weight upper. The only place I can find a weight is on primary arms website and they list it as .4lbs which is 6.4oz. Both of these only cost half as much as the v7 as well. If I remember correctly a milspec buffer tube only will weigh about 4oz |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2016 9:07:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ahrion]
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AT1222:
My aero upper with FA and m4 ramps weighed exactly 200 grams on my kitchen scale which is 7.05oz Check out the DS arms enhanced light weight upper. The only place I can find a weight is on primary arms website and they list it as .4lbs which is 6.4oz. Both of these only cost half as much as the v7 as well. If I remember correctly a milspec buffer tube only will weigh about 4oz Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AT1222:
Originally Posted By ahrion:
From what I've been reading the V7 upper w/ FA and m4 feed ramps is roughly somewhere between 6.8 and 6.9 oz. V7 says 6.8 So far it's the lightest upper with FA I've seen. The v7 aluminum forward assist is 9.2 grams. Add that as well. Strike industries polymer dust cover is 0.3 oz Anyone have an approx weight of the JP heavy silent captured spring, stock buffer tube, pws enhanced buffer tube mod1/2, as well as well as the JoeBob trigger adjuster screw and hogue over molded grip? My aero upper with FA and m4 ramps weighed exactly 200 grams on my kitchen scale which is 7.05oz Check out the DS arms enhanced light weight upper. The only place I can find a weight is on primary arms website and they list it as .4lbs which is 6.4oz. Both of these only cost half as much as the v7 as well. If I remember correctly a milspec buffer tube only will weigh about 4oz Me likey the ds arms upper. It says on their website it is .4 lbs as well. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2016 11:47:24 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ahrion:
Anyone have an approx weight of the JP heavy silent captured spring, stock buffer tube, pws enhanced buffer tube mod1/2, as well as well as the JoeBob trigger adjuster screw and hogue over molded grip? My JP Enterprises silent buffer weighs in at 7.20 ounces. I have a PWS 416 7075 aluminum receiver extension that weighs in at 5.10 ounces. The only modification to it has been the receiver plate. It has been replaced with an aluminum V7 plate. The large set screw fits perfectly thru the V7 QD sling mount hole. While these parts aren't the lightest, sometimes shifting a little more weight to the rear end of the rifle helps to balance it better. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 12:11:49 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ahrion:
Me likey the ds arms upper. It says on their website it is .4 lbs as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ahrion:
Originally Posted By AT1222:
Originally Posted By ahrion:
From what I've been reading the V7 upper w/ FA and m4 feed ramps is roughly somewhere between 6.8 and 6.9 oz. V7 says 6.8 So far it's the lightest upper with FA I've seen. The v7 aluminum forward assist is 9.2 grams. Add that as well. Strike industries polymer dust cover is 0.3 oz Anyone have an approx weight of the JP heavy silent captured spring, stock buffer tube, pws enhanced buffer tube mod1/2, as well as well as the JoeBob trigger adjuster screw and hogue over molded grip? My aero upper with FA and m4 ramps weighed exactly 200 grams on my kitchen scale which is 7.05oz Check out the DS arms enhanced light weight upper. The only place I can find a weight is on primary arms website and they list it as .4lbs which is 6.4oz. Both of these only cost half as much as the v7 as well. If I remember correctly a milspec buffer tube only will weigh about 4oz Me likey the ds arms upper. It says on their website it is .4 lbs as well. I would be hesitant buying something listed as 0.4lbs, seems like a rounded number. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2016 12:16:07 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StrangerDanger:
My JP Enterprises silent buffer weighs in at 7.20 ounces. I have a PWS 416 7075 aluminum receiver extension that weighs in at 5.10 ounces. The only modification to it has been the receiver plate. It has been replaced with an aluminum V7 plate. The large set screw fits perfectly thru the V7 QD sling mount hole. While these parts aren't the lightest, sometimes shifting a little more weight to the rear end of the rifle helps to balance it better. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StrangerDanger:
Originally Posted By ahrion:
Anyone have an approx weight of the JP heavy silent captured spring, stock buffer tube, pws enhanced buffer tube mod1/2, as well as well as the JoeBob trigger adjuster screw and hogue over molded grip? My JP Enterprises silent buffer weighs in at 7.20 ounces. I have a PWS 416 7075 aluminum receiver extension that weighs in at 5.10 ounces. The only modification to it has been the receiver plate. It has been replaced with an aluminum V7 plate. The large set screw fits perfectly thru the V7 QD sling mount hole. While these parts aren't the lightest, sometimes shifting a little more weight to the rear end of the rifle helps to balance it better. Is it mod 1 or 2? Because 5.1 oz is way heavier than mil spec. I'm looking at http://primaryweapons.com/store/pws-enhanced-buffer-tube-mod-2/ |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2016 7:25:39 AM EDT
[#8]
The D's arms enhanced upper looks pretty sweet with the extra milling, sort of the low hanging fruit behind tye deflector and down the middle of the rail. EXCEPT FOR THE FOWARD ASSIST!!
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2016 12:07:02 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ahrion:
Is it mod 1 or 2? Because 5.1 oz is way heavier than mil spec. I'm looking at http://primaryweapons.com/store/pws-enhanced-buffer-tube-mod-2/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ahrion:
Originally Posted By StrangerDanger:
Originally Posted By ahrion:
Anyone have an approx weight of the JP heavy silent captured spring, stock buffer tube, pws enhanced buffer tube mod1/2, as well as well as the JoeBob trigger adjuster screw and hogue over molded grip? My JP Enterprises silent buffer weighs in at 7.20 ounces. I have a PWS 416 7075 aluminum receiver extension that weighs in at 5.10 ounces. The only modification to it has been the receiver plate. It has been replaced with an aluminum V7 plate. The large set screw fits perfectly thru the V7 QD sling mount hole. While these parts aren't the lightest, sometimes shifting a little more weight to the rear end of the rifle helps to balance it better. Is it mod 1 or 2? Because 5.1 oz is way heavier than mil spec. I'm looking at http://primaryweapons.com/store/pws-enhanced-buffer-tube-mod-2/ Mod 1. I didn't realize they even had a mod2 until I read your post. V7 has an all aluminum unit that is 3.6 ounces, but that probably doesn't have the receiver plate or the lock nut included. So you're looking at 4 ounces roughly. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2016 12:34:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ahrion]
[#10]
Christianson arms CA-15 carbon fiber handguard: 12.125 - 6.8oz, 9.25 - 5.45oz
Christianson arms carbon Barrel assembly 16 1.7 lbs |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2016 4:53:20 PM EDT
[#11]
Not sure if it has already been posted.
LaRue PredatAR Barrel 26.8oz |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2016 5:43:31 PM EDT
[#12]
So I called ds arms about their enhanced upper that's stated on their website as "0.4" lbs (6.4 oz). The guys was vague with me. So I sent an email about it. Then a couple hours later I look on the website and they changed it from 0.4 lbs to 0.40 lbs which I'm assuming would be to the tenth. They must have changed it when I called them out
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2016 6:23:33 PM EDT
[#13]
Just got my new scale.
-Strike industries poly dust cover is 0.388 oz (11 grams) -BAD Ti takedown/pivot pin set including Springs and detents are 0.317 oz or 9 grams |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 2:11:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: m411b30]
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ahrion:
So I called ds arms about their enhanced upper that's stated on their website as "0.4" lbs (6.4 oz). The guys was vague with me. So I sent an email about it. Then a couple hours later I look on the website and they changed it from 0.4 lbs to 0.40 lbs which I'm assuming would be to the tenth. They must have changed it when I called them out Not sure where you're going with this cause 0.4lb, and 0.40lb. is exactly same as far as weight is concerned. ETA: BTW, .00 is hundredths not tenths. |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 8:04:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xtreme762:
Not sure where you're going with this cause 0.4lb, and 0.40lb. is exactly same as far as weight is concerned. ETA: BTW, .00 is hundredths not tenths. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xtreme762:
Originally Posted By ahrion:
So I called ds arms about their enhanced upper that's stated on their website as "0.4" lbs (6.4 oz). The guys was vague with me. So I sent an email about it. Then a couple hours later I look on the website and they changed it from 0.4 lbs to 0.40 lbs which I'm assuming would be to the tenth. They must have changed it when I called them out Not sure where you're going with this cause 0.4lb, and 0.40lb. is exactly same as far as weight is concerned. ETA: BTW, .00 is hundredths not tenths. But 0.40lb and 0.41 through 0.49lb are not the same weight. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2016 8:20:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By boardsnbikes:
But 0.40lb and 0.41 through 0.49lb are not the same weight. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By boardsnbikes:
Originally Posted By xtreme762:
Originally Posted By ahrion:
So I called ds arms about their enhanced upper that's stated on their website as "0.4" lbs (6.4 oz). The guys was vague with me. So I sent an email about it. Then a couple hours later I look on the website and they changed it from 0.4 lbs to 0.40 lbs which I'm assuming would be to the tenth. They must have changed it when I called them out Not sure where you're going with this cause 0.4lb, and 0.40lb. is exactly same as far as weight is concerned. ETA: BTW, .00 is hundredths not tenths. But 0.40lb and 0.41 through 0.49lb are not the same weight. That's what I was trying to say. Something could be 0.4 but not rounded as 0.5 if it is in fact 0.48. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/17/2016 12:13:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JSmithXYY]
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By boardsnbikes:
But 0.40lb and 0.41 through 0.49lb are not the same weight. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By boardsnbikes:
Originally Posted By xtreme762:
Originally Posted By ahrion:
So I called ds arms about their enhanced upper that's stated on their website as "0.4" lbs (6.4 oz). The guys was vague with me. So I sent an email about it. Then a couple hours later I look on the website and they changed it from 0.4 lbs to 0.40 lbs which I'm assuming would be to the tenth. They must have changed it when I called them out Not sure where you're going with this cause 0.4lb, and 0.40lb. is exactly same as far as weight is concerned. ETA: BTW, .00 is hundredths not tenths. But 0.40lb and 0.41 through 0.49lb are not the same weight. .35-.44 anyway, .400000 lbs is, allegedly, the exact same weight as v7's basic upper (no port door rod or F/A) at 6.4 oz, either one looks to be the lightest non plastic current production uppers on the market. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/17/2016 11:46:21 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSmithXYY:
.35-.44 anyway, .400000 lbs is, allegedly, the exact same weight as v7's basic upper (no port door rod or F/A) at 6.4 oz, either one looks to be the lightest non plastic current production uppers on the market. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSmithXYY:
Originally Posted By boardsnbikes:
Originally Posted By xtreme762:
Originally Posted By ahrion:
So I called ds arms about their enhanced upper that's stated on their website as "0.4" lbs (6.4 oz). The guys was vague with me. So I sent an email about it. Then a couple hours later I look on the website and they changed it from 0.4 lbs to 0.40 lbs which I'm assuming would be to the tenth. They must have changed it when I called them out Not sure where you're going with this cause 0.4lb, and 0.40lb. is exactly same as far as weight is concerned. ETA: BTW, .00 is hundredths not tenths. But 0.40lb and 0.41 through 0.49lb are not the same weight. .35-.44 anyway, .400000 lbs is, allegedly, the exact same weight as v7's basic upper (no port door rod or F/A) at 6.4 oz, either one looks to be the lightest non plastic current production uppers on the market. Just bought it. I'll report here when I get it |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 1:05:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: PiccoloPlayer]
[#19]
Manufacturer says the set is .98 lbs. Maybe it's just me but that seems kind of heavy.
http://f-1firearms.com/bdr-15-3gupper-lower-set/ |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 1:27:29 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PiccoloPlayer:
Manufacturer says the set is .98 lbs. Maybe it's just me but that seems kind of heavy. http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-ph1212/products/82/images/579/DSC_0069__73067.1447711667.1280.1280.jpg?c=2 http://f-1firearms.com/bdr-15-3gupper-lower-set/ 
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/19/2016 1:33:58 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GSL:
Not for me, but it does work...here it is in action:  https://youtu.be/LQalucXr_tQ
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GSL:
Originally Posted By PiccoloPlayer:
Manufacturer says the set is .98 lbs. Maybe it's just me but that seems kind of heavy. http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-ph1212/products/82/images/579/DSC_0069__73067.1447711667.1280.1280.jpg?c=2 http://f-1firearms.com/bdr-15-3gupper-lower-set/ https://youtu.be/LQalucXr_tQ
Weighs over 15 oz. That's a heavy piece of metal. Heavier than a side charging ar |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 2:14:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: m411b30]
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PiccoloPlayer:
Manufacturer says the set is .98 lbs. Maybe it's just me but that seems kind of heavy. http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-ph1212/products/82/images/579/DSC_0069__73067.1447711667.1280.1280.jpg?c=2 http://f-1firearms.com/bdr-15-3gupper-lower-set/ I saw this a few weeks ago. The walls are crazy thick which would explain the weight. They do look pretty good, though. But at 15.7oz for the set it kinda knocks them out of the light weight game. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/19/2016 3:27:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PiccoloPlayer:
Manufacturer says the set is .98 lbs. Maybe it's just me but that seems kind of heavy. http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-ph1212/products/82/images/579/DSC_0069__73067.1447711667.1280.1280.jpg?c=2 http://f-1firearms.com/bdr-15-3gupper-lower-set/ holy shit! why didn't they skeletanize the part where the grip screw goes lol? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/19/2016 3:28:45 AM EDT
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so ballistic advantage has a 10.5" Hansen profile barrel on sale this week. it is not the lighetst possible 10.5", but it is a pretty good profile.
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Posted: 1/19/2016 3:32:27 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSmithXYY:
holy shit! why didn't they skeletanize the part where the grip screw goes lol? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSmithXYY:
Originally Posted By PiccoloPlayer:
Manufacturer says the set is .98 lbs. Maybe it's just me but that seems kind of heavy. http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-ph1212/products/82/images/579/DSC_0069__73067.1447711667.1280.1280.jpg?c=2 http://f-1firearms.com/bdr-15-3gupper-lower-set/ holy shit! why didn't they skeletanize the part where the grip screw goes lol? |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 4:22:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ArmedFerret]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GSL:
Because they needed something for you to complain about. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GSL:
Originally Posted By JSmithXYY:
Originally Posted By PiccoloPlayer:
Manufacturer says the set is .98 lbs. Maybe it's just me but that seems kind of heavy. http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-ph1212/products/82/images/579/DSC_0069__73067.1447711667.1280.1280.jpg?c=2 http://f-1firearms.com/bdr-15-3gupper-lower-set/ holy shit! why didn't they skeletanize the part where the grip screw goes lol? I rost. ETA new page 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/19/2016 12:13:16 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedFerret:
I rost. ETA new page http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s278/armed_ferret/gun_stuff/20150526_145230_zpshih9hr9e.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Originally Posted By GSL:
Originally Posted By JSmithXYY:
Originally Posted By PiccoloPlayer:
Manufacturer says the set is .98 lbs. Maybe it's just me but that seems kind of heavy. http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-ph1212/products/82/images/579/DSC_0069__73067.1447711667.1280.1280.jpg?c=2 http://f-1firearms.com/bdr-15-3gupper-lower-set/ holy shit! why didn't they skeletanize the part where the grip screw goes lol? I rost. ETA new page http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s278/armed_ferret/gun_stuff/20150526_145230_zpshih9hr9e.jpg Haha. I guess it is really just an aesthetic thing anyway not really trying to be lightweight. So there'd be no reason the skeletonize that which is not visible |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2016 7:08:02 PM EDT
[#29]
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that makes me want to get a mill. thanks for reporting back about that dsa receiver. looks like hte best value going, particualry if you believe in the f/a UPDATE: the VLTOR A5 pistol exnention is NOT 3.2 oz, it is 4.45 oz! I am super pissed. That is not even just a little off, that is substantial. I guess I'll spend $10 shipping it back to brownells 
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2016 9:02:19 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSmithXYY:
^ that makes me want to get a mill. thanks for reporting back about that dsa receiver. looks like hte best value going, particualry if you believe in the f/a UPDATE: the VLTOR A5 pistol exnention is NOT 3.2 oz, it is 4.45 oz! I am super pissed. That is not even just a little off, that is substantial. I guess I'll spend $10 shipping it back to brownells 79.99 for a fa upper that is 1-3.5oz lighter than than its closest competitors? Can't beat the price or weight. It's pretty solid too. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 11:40:00 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ahrion:
So I went and bought a DSA (ds arms) enhanced flattop a3 upper which is the lightest weight upper with the forward assist I could find. I weighed it at 181 grams and it teetered between 6.3 and 6.4 oz. That makes it somewhere between 0.385 lbs and 0.4 lbs just like the website stated. It's much better quality than my anderson upper and feels nice. It also is lighter than a lot of lightweight Uppers that don't even have a forward assist. For example the BAD lightweight slick side upper is 6.28 oz and this is 6.4. Looks alright. Forward assist looks cool but we'll see how it comes out after I finish my build. You'll be able to notice where the weight improvements came from immediately. And yes it has the feed ramps. <a href="http://postimg.org/image/nejokh2gv/full/" target="_blank">http://s11.postimg.org/4m7tgw62r/image.jpg</a> <a href="http://postimg.org/image/vin7bgzi7/full/" target="_blank">http://s11.postimg.org/6pdnatghv/image.jpg</a> <a href="http://postimg.org/image/9uy910z3z/full/" target="_blank">http://s11.postimg.org/5ltiyuvur/image.jpg</a> <a href="http://postimg.org/image/6a2dhsukf/full/" target="_blank">http://s11.postimg.org/qu77gaabn/image.jpg</a> That's a cool upper, Def the lightest upper with a forward assist, just a bummer that it's at most 0.7 oz lighter than a regular Mil-spec upper. But hey all ounces eventually add up to lbs |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 1/26/2016 11:06:26 PM EDT
[#32]
Great Data, this was the tipping point that got me to JOIN! Had to get off my A$$ and get an ISP email, which was a PITA  
The smiley list sealed th deal 
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Posted: 1/27/2016 12:20:46 PM EDT
[#33]
DPMS car buffer spring 57g
Tubb flat wire buffer spring 43g |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2016 6:53:28 PM EDT
[#34]
Looks like I have some work to do if I want to get the OPs up to speed.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/28/2016 3:20:19 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By djkest:
Looks like I have some work to do if I want to get the OPs up to speed. Can you edit the actual OPs? What are you saying exactly? |
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Posted: 1/28/2016 3:42:09 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSmithXYY:
Can you edit the actual OPs? What are you saying exactly? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSmithXYY:
Originally Posted By djkest:
Looks like I have some work to do if I want to get the OPs up to speed. Can you edit the actual OPs? What are you saying exactly?
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/28/2016 10:45:34 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GSL:
Yes he can, he's the one that started this thread and posted the original weights to begin with Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GSL:
Originally Posted By JSmithXYY:
Originally Posted By djkest:
Looks like I have some work to do if I want to get the OPs up to speed. Can you edit the actual OPs? What are you saying exactly? Oh. Didn't recognize him w/o the holy lime cat avatar |
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Posted: 1/28/2016 9:00:01 PM EDT
[#38]
ODIN Work 10.5" ULTRAlite Barrel
15.64 oz https://www.odinworks.com/223_Wylde_ULTRAlite_10_5_Carbine_p/b-223-10-ul-c.htm 
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Posted: 1/29/2016 8:14:39 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ahrion:
So I went and bought a DSA (ds arms) enhanced flattop a3 upper which is the lightest weight upper with the forward assist I could find. I weighed it at 181 grams and it teetered between 6.3 and 6.4 oz. That makes it somewhere between 0.385 lbs and 0.4 lbs just like the website stated. It's much better quality than my anderson upper and feels nice. It also is lighter than a lot of lightweight Uppers that don't even have a forward assist. For example the BAD lightweight slick side upper is 6.28 oz and this is 6.4. Looks alright. Forward assist looks cool but we'll see how it comes out after I finish my build. You'll be able to notice where the weight improvements came from immediately. And yes it has the feed ramps. Just remember that a stripped upper designed to use a forward assist will have to add the weight of the actual FA, too, which one without that ability will not. Shouldn't be too much weight, but to figure out what that functionality will "cost" you in weight, it needs to be included. That said, while I like the lightweight phenomenon, I believe that one should pick their desired features first and then build the lightest rifle with them. For example, if I lived in a free state, I would rather have a slightly heavier Minimalist adjustable stock than one of those straight stick ultra-light ones. If one wants a FA, the DSA upper does look like a great choice. |
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Posted: 1/29/2016 9:06:52 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarpNY:
Just remember that a stripped upper designed to use a forward assist will have to add the weight of the actual FA, too, which one without that ability will not. Shouldn't be too much weight, but to figure out what that functionality will "cost" you in weight, it needs to be included. That said, while I like the lightweight phenomenon, I believe that one should pick their desired features first and then build the lightest rifle with them. For example, if I lived in a free state, I would rather have a slightly heavier Minimalist adjustable stock than one of those straight stick ultra-light ones. If one wants a FA, the DSA upper does look like a great choice. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarpNY:
Originally Posted By ahrion:
So I went and bought a DSA (ds arms) enhanced flattop a3 upper which is the lightest weight upper with the forward assist I could find. I weighed it at 181 grams and it teetered between 6.3 and 6.4 oz. That makes it somewhere between 0.385 lbs and 0.4 lbs just like the website stated. It's much better quality than my anderson upper and feels nice. It also is lighter than a lot of lightweight Uppers that don't even have a forward assist. For example the BAD lightweight slick side upper is 6.28 oz and this is 6.4. Looks alright. Forward assist looks cool but we'll see how it comes out after I finish my build. You'll be able to notice where the weight improvements came from immediately. And yes it has the feed ramps. Just remember that a stripped upper designed to use a forward assist will have to add the weight of the actual FA, too, which one without that ability will not. Shouldn't be too much weight, but to figure out what that functionality will "cost" you in weight, it needs to be included. That said, while I like the lightweight phenomenon, I believe that one should pick their desired features first and then build the lightest rifle with them. For example, if I lived in a free state, I would rather have a slightly heavier Minimalist adjustable stock than one of those straight stick ultra-light ones. If one wants a FA, the DSA upper does look like a great choice. Good points, we must remember not to get to lost in the whole lightweight concept especially for a self defense rifle. My priorities have always been... Function Weight Style Price While I want the lightest rifle possible there are somethings I'm just not willing to give up In exchange for less weight. A forward assist and adjustable stocks are Def on that list. |
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Posted: 1/29/2016 10:23:24 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spartikis:
ODIN Work 10.5" ULTRAlite Barrel 15.64 oz https://www.odinworks.com/223_Wylde_ULTRAlite_10_5_Carbine_p/b-223-10-ul-c.htm https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1548/24310876619_15247ca0b9_z.jpg is that a .750 gas journal? |
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Posted: 1/29/2016 10:27:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Spartikis]
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Posted: 1/29/2016 10:30:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSmithXYY:
is that a .750 gas journal? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSmithXYY:
Originally Posted By Spartikis:
ODIN Work 10.5" ULTRAlite Barrel 15.64 oz https://www.odinworks.com/223_Wylde_ULTRAlite_10_5_Carbine_p/b-223-10-ul-c.htm https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1548/24310876619_15247ca0b9_z.jpg is that a .750 gas journal? Yes. Turn it down to .625 and you should be right about 15 ounces even. |
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Posted: 1/29/2016 11:27:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Spartikis]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoshAston:
Yes. Turn it down to .625 and you should be right about 15 ounces even. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoshAston:
Originally Posted By JSmithXYY:
Originally Posted By Spartikis:
ODIN Work 10.5" ULTRAlite Barrel 15.64 oz https://www.odinworks.com/223_Wylde_ULTRAlite_10_5_Carbine_p/b-223-10-ul-c.htm https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1548/24310876619_15247ca0b9_z.jpg is that a .750 gas journal? Yes. Turn it down to .625 and you should be right about 15 ounces even. Correct it is 0.750 at the gas block. It would be a hair bit lighter at 0.625 but personally i prefer 0.750 as thats the size of all of my other gas blocks/barrels. Also, sometimes 0.625 gas blocks weigh more than 0.750 gas blocks because the smaller holes = less material removed from the block so any weight you saved on the smaller dia barrel is then added from the gas block. Either way its got to be one of the lightest 10.5" barrels on the market. I look forward to getting a chance to shoot it. |
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Posted: 1/29/2016 2:57:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spartikis:
Correct it is 0.750 at the gas block. It would be a hair bit lighter at 0.625 but personally i prefer 0.750 as thats the size of all of my other gas blocks/barrels. Also, sometimes 0.625 gas blocks weigh more than 0.750 gas blocks because the smaller holes = less material removed from the block so any weight you saved on the smaller dia barrel is then added from the gas block. Either way its got to be one of the lightest 10.5" barrels on the market. I look forward to getting a chance to shoot it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spartikis:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
Originally Posted By JSmithXYY:
Originally Posted By Spartikis:
ODIN Work 10.5" ULTRAlite Barrel 15.64 oz https://www.odinworks.com/223_Wylde_ULTRAlite_10_5_Carbine_p/b-223-10-ul-c.htm https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1548/24310876619_15247ca0b9_z.jpg is that a .750 gas journal? Yes. Turn it down to .625 and you should be right about 15 ounces even. Correct it is 0.750 at the gas block. It would be a hair bit lighter at 0.625 but personally i prefer 0.750 as thats the size of all of my other gas blocks/barrels. Also, sometimes 0.625 gas blocks weigh more than 0.750 gas blocks because the smaller holes = less material removed from the block so any weight you saved on the smaller dia barrel is then added from the gas block. Either way its got to be one of the lightest 10.5" barrels on the market. I look forward to getting a chance to shoot it. Battle Arms just released their new titanium super lightweight .750 gas block. It's lighter than most other maker's .625 GBs. I have a BAD .625 GB. It's sweet. |
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Posted: 1/30/2016 7:53:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spartikis:
Correct it is 0.750 at the gas block. It would be a hair bit lighter at 0.625 but personally i prefer 0.750 as thats the size of all of my other gas blocks/barrels. Also, sometimes 0.625 gas blocks weigh more than 0.750 gas blocks because the smaller holes = less material removed from the block so any weight you saved on the smaller dia barrel is then added from the gas block. Either way its got to be one of the lightest 10.5" barrels on the market. I look forward to getting a chance to shoot it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spartikis:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
Originally Posted By JSmithXYY:
Originally Posted By Spartikis:
ODIN Work 10.5" ULTRAlite Barrel 15.64 oz https://www.odinworks.com/223_Wylde_ULTRAlite_10_5_Carbine_p/b-223-10-ul-c.htm https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1548/24310876619_15247ca0b9_z.jpg is that a .750 gas journal? Yes. Turn it down to .625 and you should be right about 15 ounces even. Correct it is 0.750 at the gas block. It would be a hair bit lighter at 0.625 but personally i prefer 0.750 as thats the size of all of my other gas blocks/barrels. Also, sometimes 0.625 gas blocks weigh more than 0.750 gas blocks because the smaller holes = less material removed from the block so any weight you saved on the smaller dia barrel is then added from the gas block. Either way its got to be one of the lightest 10.5" barrels on the market. I look forward to getting a chance to shoot it. Silly. There are plenty of LW .625 blocks out there now. |
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Posted: 1/31/2016 2:56:34 AM EDT
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Elftmann Ambidextrious Safety Selector (push button) is one of the lightest safeties weighing in at 10.680 grams (0.377 oz). It's about a gram heavier than the V7 ambi hybrid selector.
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Posted: 2/17/2016 1:40:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ahrion]
[#48]
So Fortress Tacticall finally had the PWS Ehnahced Buffer Tube Mod 2 In Stock. I was the first to buy it and within about 30 min it went out of stock. However I emailed Fortress and asked them how much the tube itself weighs. Mike said 3oz without the hardware. So it's lighter than the original, and lighter than any mil spec tube you'll find. It's also 7075 aluminum which is stronger than mil spec 6061.
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Posted: 2/17/2016 4:03:14 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ahrion:
So I went and bought a DSA (ds arms) enhanced flattop a3 upper which is the lightest weight upper with the forward assist I could find. I weighed it at 181 grams and it teetered between 6.3 and 6.4 oz. That makes it somewhere between 0.385 lbs and 0.4 lbs just like the website stated. It's much better quality than my anderson upper and feels nice. It also is lighter than a lot of lightweight Uppers that don't even have a forward assist. For example the BAD lightweight slick side upper is 6.28 oz and this is 6.4. Looks alright. Forward assist looks cool but we'll see how it comes out after I finish my build. You'll be able to notice where the weight improvements came from immediately. And yes it has the feed ramps. <a href="http://postimg.org/image/nejokh2gv/full/" target="_blank">http://s11.postimg.org/4m7tgw62r/image.jpg</a> <a href="http://postimg.org/image/vin7bgzi7/full/" target="_blank">http://s11.postimg.org/6pdnatghv/image.jpg</a> <a href="http://postimg.org/image/9uy910z3z/full/" target="_blank">http://s11.postimg.org/5ltiyuvur/image.jpg</a> <a href="http://postimg.org/image/6a2dhsukf/full/" target="_blank">http://s11.postimg.org/qu77gaabn/image.jpg</a> Pair that with a Titanium forward assist and a Strike Industries Polymer dust cover and you'll be set :) |
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Posted: 2/17/2016 5:02:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Slimjim:
Pair that with a Titanium forward assist and a Strike Industries Polymer dust cover and you'll be set :) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Slimjim:
Originally Posted By ahrion:
So I went and bought a DSA (ds arms) enhanced flattop a3 upper which is the lightest weight upper with the forward assist I could find. I weighed it at 181 grams and it teetered between 6.3 and 6.4 oz. That makes it somewhere between 0.385 lbs and 0.4 lbs just like the website stated. It's much better quality than my anderson upper and feels nice. It also is lighter than a lot of lightweight Uppers that don't even have a forward assist. For example the BAD lightweight slick side upper is 6.28 oz and this is 6.4. Looks alright. Forward assist looks cool but we'll see how it comes out after I finish my build. You'll be able to notice where the weight improvements came from immediately. And yes it has the feed ramps. <a href="http://postimg.org/image/nejokh2gv/full/" target="_blank">http://s11.postimg.org/4m7tgw62r/image.jpg</a> <a href="http://postimg.org/image/vin7bgzi7/full/" target="_blank">http://s11.postimg.org/6pdnatghv/image.jpg</a> <a href="http://postimg.org/image/9uy910z3z/full/" target="_blank">http://s11.postimg.org/5ltiyuvur/image.jpg</a> <a href="http://postimg.org/image/6a2dhsukf/full/" target="_blank">http://s11.postimg.org/qu77gaabn/image.jpg</a> Pair that with a Titanium forward assist and a Strike Industries Polymer dust cover and you'll be set :) I paired it with the v7 aluminum forward assist and aluminum port door/rod. |
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