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Posted: 4/30/2017 2:09:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/30/2017 12:38:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carmodyh:
I didn't want to buy two ATPIAL-Cs, so I just swap my eotech and acog out depending on which I want to shoot... long story less long... I shot them at the range today and removed and remounted each optic back and forth, shooting groups to make sure there was no discernable shift... about 100 rounds later from 50 - 400 meters, I feel pretty confident with both QD set ups... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/365058/IMG-5635-198065.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/365058/IMG-5641-198066.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/365058/IMG-5642-198067.JPG |
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Posted: 5/3/2017 9:23:53 PM EDT
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What is everyone using for extended flash hiders to bring a 14.5" barrel to 16"? I was debating between the Adco extended A2 and the BCM XA2. Which one looks better? Or is a regular A2 and spacer a better option? Thanks.
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Posted: 5/3/2017 9:32:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J_MONEY:
What is everyone using for extended flash hiders to bring a 14.5" barrel to 16"? I was debating between the Adco extended A2 and the BCM XA2. Which one looks better? Or is a regular A2 and spacer a better option? Thanks. |
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Posted: 5/3/2017 10:21:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
I like the spacer look better personally. But didn't mind my A2X. And the ADCO extended A2 should be literally exact to the A2X so I don't think it matters which between those 2. May even be made by the same company for all I know |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2017 10:25:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J_MONEY:
What is everyone using for extended flash hiders to bring a 14.5" barrel to 16"? I was debating between the Adco extended A2 and the BCM XA2. Which one looks better? Or is a regular A2 and spacer a better option? Thanks. |
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Posted: 5/3/2017 10:34:35 PM EDT
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I went with the standard A2 and adco kac spacer.
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Posted: 5/3/2017 10:46:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J_MONEY:
What is everyone using for extended flash hiders to bring a 14.5" barrel to 16"? I was debating between the Adco extended A2 and the BCM XA2. Which one looks better? Or is a regular A2 and spacer a better option? Thanks. CD |
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Posted: 5/3/2017 10:49:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
All depends one which variant you're cloning. Either works above, KAC NT4 with spacer or a Surefire 3P/4P. CD |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2017 12:50:10 AM EDT
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For a SOPMOD Block 1 were socom or government profile barrels used?
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Posted: 5/4/2017 2:39:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: J_MONEY]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CoilCrafter:
For a SOPMOD Block 1 were socom or government profile barrels used? |
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Posted: 5/4/2017 8:13:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CoilCrafter:
For a SOPMOD Block 1 were socom or government profile barrels used? CD |
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Posted: 5/4/2017 8:16:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J_MONEY:
I'm cloning a Block 1 variant. CD |
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Posted: 5/4/2017 8:54:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Either A2 FH or KAC NT4 would be correct. Most guns by late 90s all had the NT4 in SOF. CD  . This build is gonna cost more than I expected.
I've got a Colt 6920 coming tomorrow, a new 14.5 Colt SOCOM barrel, a KAC RAS, and Gen 1 SOPMOD stock also enroute. Either going to run my TA31 or Aimpoint M4S (assuming it's clone correct). |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2017 1:23:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J_MONEY:
It's been decided- I'm going with the NT4 flash hider and spacer from Adco. Just ordered the last NT4 from Operation Parts . This build is gonna cost more than I expected.
I've got a Colt 6920 coming tomorrow, a new 14.5 Colt SOCOM barrel, a KAC RAS, and Gen 1 SOPMOD stock also enroute. Either going to run my TA31 or Aimpoint M4S (assuming it's clone correct). 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2017 3:55:59 PM EDT
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My humble submission. 14.5" bcm socom with a Acog and NT4. M203....one day
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Posted: 5/6/2017 11:31:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iluvmy86:
M68 CCO (Aimpoint M4, M4s) is standard optic for Army, not part of the Socom Kit. Acog TA31 (M150 Army) (TA31RCO Marines) not part of the Socom kit. The Aimpoint CompM2 and the Acog TA01nsn are clone correct assuming you are going a BlockI http://i1024.photobucket.com/albums/y302/Silent_Shooter/SOPMOD_2-2005.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iluvmy86:
Originally Posted By J_MONEY:
It's been decided- I'm going with the NT4 flash hider and spacer from Adco. Just ordered the last NT4 from Operation Parts . This build is gonna cost more than I expected.
I've got a Colt 6920 coming tomorrow, a new 14.5 Colt SOCOM barrel, a KAC RAS, and Gen 1 SOPMOD stock also enroute. Either going to run my TA31 or Aimpoint M4S (assuming it's clone correct). http://i1024.photobucket.com/albums/y302/Silent_Shooter/SOPMOD_2-2005.jpg  Attached File |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 5/6/2017 11:42:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DwayneHicks:
My humble submission. 14.5" bcm socom with a Acog and NT4. M203....one day
http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a483/DwayneHicks100/IMG_1835_zpsihjzduyi.jpg |
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Posted: 5/7/2017 1:33:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ckopp636:
Very nice! where did you get that magazine from? I tried finding them not long ago and couldnt find a source. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ckopp636:
Originally Posted By DwayneHicks:
My humble submission. 14.5" bcm socom with a Acog and NT4. M203....one day
http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a483/DwayneHicks100/IMG_1835_zpsihjzduyi.jpg 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2017 10:43:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ckopp636:
Very nice! where did you get that magazine from? I tried finding them not long ago and couldnt find a source. Will paint the upper to match soon. 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2017 9:17:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Either A2 FH or KAC NT4 would be correct. Most guns by late 90s all had the NT4 in SOF. CD |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2017 2:02:13 PM EDT
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Got bored yesterday and pictures happened.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2017 3:34:02 PM EDT
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Summer 2015 finally RIS II uppers without front sights post issued out to I would say 95% of SF. So hopefully it's now 100%
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2017 4:59:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jellis71985:
Are any team guys still using m4s with fsbs or they all switch to free floated dd rails? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jellis71985:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Either A2 FH or KAC NT4 would be correct. Most guns by late 90s all had the NT4 in SOF. CD |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2017 5:53:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rb889:
A lot of the RIS 2 rails have A2 FSB cutouts. Don't know if the majority are like that, nor how they're distributed. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2017 8:12:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stukas87:
They are phasing out the RIS with the FSP as of couple years ago, just taking time for all SOF units to get them. |
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Posted: 5/8/2017 9:54:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jellis71985:
Are any team guys still using m4s with fsbs or they all switch to free floated dd rails? CD |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2017 2:37:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
Thanks to you I bought 2 gun mags for the first time in years. LOL. Nice articles in SWAT. Actually I didn't read the second one yet, but it's sitting here. Thanks for sharing all your knowledge! |
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Posted: 5/9/2017 10:17:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
Thanks to you I bought 2 gun mags for the first time in years. LOL. Nice articles in SWAT. Actually I didn't read the second one yet, but it's sitting here. Thanks for sharing all your knowledge! Excellent articles I am about to re-read pt 2. |
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Posted: 5/9/2017 7:34:04 PM EDT
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A guy I know ran a RIS II FSB/ Strike Eagle 1-6 late last year.
Does anyone have any photos of early GWOT Block 2s with with Troy rails? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
As of last summer in Iraq, Yes (M4 with RIS II FSB). CD Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Originally Posted By Jellis71985:
Are any team guys still using m4s with fsbs or they all switch to free floated dd rails? CD |
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Posted: 5/9/2017 8:29:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RifleManWI:
A guy I know ran a RIS II FSB/ Strike Eagle 1-6 late last year. Does anyone have any photos of early GWOT Block 2s with with Troy rails? 
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Posted: 5/13/2017 11:02:53 AM EDT
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Thanks for all the wisdom in this thread.
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Posted: 5/13/2017 4:03:53 PM EDT
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So, on Block 1, generally only left side selector, but Block 2, mostly ambi ?
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2017 5:28:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Stukas87]
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Sorry double posted
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2017 5:29:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frank4guns:
So, on Block 1, generally only left side selector, but Block 2, mostly ambi ? |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2017 5:32:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stukas87:
No ambi Block I, Block II either way, I retired 6 months ago never saw one on a block II until last week ran into SF guy with one on MK18. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2017 9:43:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/14/2017 12:01:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stukas87:
No ambi Block I, Block II either way, I retired 6 months ago never saw one on a block II until last week ran into SF guy with one on MK18. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2017 3:22:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Stukas87]
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T1, Never saw a issued one. Comp M4s yes.
In fact the Comp M4 with the on / off knob down below (M4S) was made specifically for SOF. Reason; so keep it down out of shooters vision. The big Army kept knob up top solely because they wanted it to be same as old M2, even though it's larger and more obtrusive. Because you know they didn't trust soldiers to be able to find the new knob placement. So clone correct version CompM4S, knob down below. BTW..... SF turned in all Comp M4s around 2010/11ish for some unknown reason back to Big Army (Huge mistake in my mind). So that is how some regular Army have M4S on thier rifles. |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 8:23:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alaskanforfreedom:
Did you see guys with T1s ever? Probably uncommon? 
2015 M4A1 CQBR/URGs belonging to 20th SFG(A) also in Kuwait 
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Posted: 5/14/2017 11:23:34 AM EDT
[#41]
Thanks for the responses guys!
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Posted: 5/14/2017 11:43:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
Just finished part II today. Very nice write up. My eyes were kind of bugging out at some of the things you said. I think everyone that frequents the Optics forum should read that. Should be required reading. LOL. |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 2:22:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By prskiller:
Which article is this? I tried searching for it and came up empty in the optics forum. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2017 11:07:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JJREA]
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Yep.
The one statement that stood out is he said something to the degree of, Probably more enemies were put down with an M4/Mk18 with the Elcan than any other set up. I think basically as M4's go. Because the Elcan 1-4 just was that versatile and effective of an optic. I could get the exact quote if you want me to...... |
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Posted: 5/15/2017 12:29:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alaskanforfreedom:
The May and June issues of SWAT magazine has a 2 part article about the SOPMOD kit since its implementation. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alaskanforfreedom:
The May and June issues of SWAT magazine has a 2 part article about the SOPMOD kit since its implementation. Originally Posted By JJREA:
Yep. The one statement that stood out is he said something to the degree of, Probably more enemies were put down with an M4/Mk18 with the Elcan than any other set up. I think basically as M4's go. Because the Elcan 1-4 just was that versatile and effective of an optic. I could get the exact quote if you want me to...... |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 6:31:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By imdBman:
This M4 was issued to me in 2003-2004. Originally had M4 Handguards, waffle stock, and Matech BUIS. I was issued POS 3 point sling, KAC RAS, Aimpoint and PEQ before 2005 deployment. http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/imdbman65/Military%20Times/Iraq%202005/BradIraq2005.jpg Same M4 now sporting the Elcan, PEQ 15, Mako Grip, Fiberlite Stock and VTAC sling. Took it on 2012-13 Deployment. http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/imdbman65/Military%20Times/DSCF0978.jpg http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/imdbman65/Military%20Times/Mehtar%20Lam%20Afghanistan%20Nov2012%20to%20Jul%202013/7f74dd11-dab9-454c-8738-d7709b6f4702.jpg ETA: I also had an EOTECH but never used it since the Elcan was awesome. The rest is all obviously awesome, but I needed to say what needs to come first. |
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Posted: 5/27/2017 5:03:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Charlie_Foxtrot]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By imdBman:
This M4 was issued to me in 2003-2004. Originally had M4 Handguards, waffle stock, and Matech BUIS. I was issued POS 3 point sling, KAC RAS, Aimpoint and PEQ before 2005 deployment. http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/imdbman65/Military%20Times/Iraq%202005/BradIraq2005.jpg Same M4 now sporting the Elcan, PEQ 15, Mako Grip, Fiberlite Stock and VTAC sling. Took it on 2012-13 Deployment. http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/imdbman65/Military%20Times/DSCF0978.jpg http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/imdbman65/Military%20Times/Mehtar%20Lam%20Afghanistan%20Nov2012%20to%20Jul%202013/7f74dd11-dab9-454c-8738-d7709b6f4702.jpg ETA: I also had an EOTECH but never used it since the Elcan was awesome. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/30/2017 2:24:33 PM EDT
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Probably because fiberlite are more compact (Smaller)
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Posted: 5/31/2017 10:33:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: imdBman]
[#50]
I liked the Fiberlight cause it was cool
. The compactness and flat back were the physical reasons. Half the conventional and nearly all the SF guys had fiberlight stocks. I put the rubber butt pad on it which worked great for keeping the stock from slipping off the cordura on the body armor. I still have that original waffle, (M4) stock that I had in Iraq. It sits in a bin, never cared for them.
The M9 is an ok side arm. With good mags it is fairly reliable. I always called it a POS because I don't like it, but I do admit is not bad. There are much better; Sig, S&W, Glock, etc.... I hated the safety that had to be swept up to fire, the frame was too big for my hands, The exposed barrel was jammed with dirt on several occasions while being on the ground crawling while holstered. The SF guys all had Glocks. I own a Sig and a S&W. I don't care for Glocks but they are an excellent firearm. ETA: I changed the PG to a LSO my last 3 years in. I loved the Elcan! |
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