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Posted: 7/19/2018 12:59:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane:
Day 2 of no reply. Hope everything is alright. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane:
Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
I'm thinking that Chris is busier than a cat covering shit. He will answer you.  |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 5:53:09 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Samsies Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By WTFShane:
Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
I'm thinking that Chris is busier than a cat covering shit. He will answer you. |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 9:50:24 AM EDT
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That's not out of the ordinary...he will usually take a few days to get back to you when he is slammed
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Posted: 7/19/2018 10:15:55 AM EDT
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I didn't originally set out to do a clone, but here I am.
Not so long ago I found myself wanting a more traditional style AR. I bought a new Colt M4 Carbine lower and gathered the parts to put together an all Colt 14.5" SOCOM upper. With the basic rifle complete, I decided to do some tinkering and try out some components I hadn't ever used or didn't have much experience with. That led B5 SOPMOD stock and a P&S M4 RAS (though I do have an M5 RAS on my dissipator). Somewhere along the way I discovered this thread and ideas started swirling about. Through some good fortune, as well as bad luck, I ended up with this:  Not all of the bits are exactly correct. The Aimpoint is a PRO, trigger a Geissele SSP, and charging handle is a BCM small-latch. I have a bunch of mil-spec charging handles and should have at least swapped one in for the picture. The KAC sight is current production with the new style knob. I guess the ambi-safety isn't period correct either, but it was installed before the cloning began and I like having two levers as I shoot rifles lefty sometimes. The alterations bug the purist in me somewhat, but my practical/functional side prefers them. It wasn't until the rifle was done that I realized it satisfied a bit of nostalgia for me. The very first AR I ever handled belonged to a former coworker, and was a Bushmaster M4gery with an ACOG, Knights RAS, and Surefire light. I remember thinking it was one of the coolest things I'd ever seen and was the motivation for me to purchase my own AR soon thereafter. Good memories. |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 10:38:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spinr:
I didn't originally set out to do a clone, but here I am. Not so long ago I found myself wanting a more traditional style AR. I bought a new Colt M4 Carbine lower and gathered the parts to put together an all Colt 14.5" SOCOM upper. With the basic rifle complete, I decided to do some tinkering and try out some components I hadn't ever used or didn't have much experience with. That led B5 SOPMOD stock and a P&S M4 RAS (though I do have an M5 RAS on my dissipator). Somewhere along the way I discovered this thread and ideas started swirling about. Through some good fortune, as well as bad luck, I ended up with this: https://photos.smugmug.com/Guns-Stuff/Rifles/Colt/i-5hXzVQX/0/9408c8c4/XL/IMG_6790-XL.jpg Not all of the bits are exactly correct. The Aimpoint is a PRO, trigger a Geissele SSP, and charging handle is a BCM small-latch. I have a bunch of mil-spec charging handles and should have at least swapped one in for the picture. The KAC sight is current production with the new style knob. I guess the ambi-safety isn't period correct either, but it was installed before the cloning began and I like having two levers as I shoot rifles lefty sometimes. The alterations bug the purist in me somewhat, but my practical/functional side prefers them. It wasn't until the rifle was done that I realized it satisfied a bit of nostalgia for me. The very first AR I ever handled belonged to a former coworker, and was a Bushmaster M4gery with an ACOG, Knights RAS, and Surefire light. I remember thinking it was one of the coolest things I'd ever seen and was the motivation for me to purchase my own AR soon thereafter. Good memories. |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 10:39:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2:
That's not out of the ordinary...he will usually take a few days to get back to you when he is slammed |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 5:16:45 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Samsies I made sure my request was very brief and specific. Not sure if that mattered or not. |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 6:14:42 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Me also now. Odd. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By WTFShane:
Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
I'm thinking that Chris is busier than a cat covering shit. He will answer you. So I've got another SERPMERD en route. 
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HI, USA
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Posted: 7/19/2018 6:15:14 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spinr:
I didn't originally set out to do a clone, but here I am. Not so long ago I found myself wanting a more traditional style AR. I bought a new Colt M4 Carbine lower and gathered the parts to put together an all Colt 14.5" SOCOM upper. With the basic rifle complete, I decided to do some tinkering and try out some components I hadn't ever used or didn't have much experience with. That led B5 SOPMOD stock and a P&S M4 RAS (though I do have an M5 RAS on my dissipator). Somewhere along the way I discovered this thread and ideas started swirling about. Through some good fortune, as well as bad luck, I ended up with this: https://photos.smugmug.com/Guns-Stuff/Rifles/Colt/i-5hXzVQX/0/9408c8c4/XL/IMG_6790-XL.jpg Not all of the bits are exactly correct. The Aimpoint is a PRO, trigger a Geissele SSP, and charging handle is a BCM small-latch. I have a bunch of mil-spec charging handles and should have at least swapped one in for the picture. The KAC sight is current production with the new style knob. I guess the ambi-safety isn't period correct either, but it was installed before the cloning began and I like having two levers as I shoot rifles lefty sometimes. The alterations bug the purist in me somewhat, but my practical/functional side prefers them. It wasn't until the rifle was done that I realized it satisfied a bit of nostalgia for me. The very first AR I ever handled belonged to a former coworker, and was a Bushmaster M4gery with an ACOG, Knights RAS, and Surefire light. I remember thinking it was one of the coolest things I'd ever seen and was the motivation for me to purchase my own AR soon thereafter. Good memories. I have parts en route for my M4A1. |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 6:16:38 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Responded to me a couple days ago. I made sure my request was very brief and specific. Not sure if that mattered or not. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Samsies I made sure my request was very brief and specific. Not sure if that mattered or not. |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 6:59:01 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
I did too but couldn't initially find their email so I used the form on their site. When he replied he said he hadn't seen anything come through, so that's probably the issue. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Samsies I made sure my request was very brief and specific. Not sure if that mattered or not. |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 7:02:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
I just got off the phone with him, when all else fails he will usually pick up. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Samsies I made sure my request was very brief and specific. Not sure if that mattered or not.
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Posted: 7/19/2018 7:06:44 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
I hate talking on the phone. 
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HI, USA
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Posted: 7/19/2018 8:10:13 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
I kinda do too.... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
I hate talking on the phone. 
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Posted: 7/19/2018 8:30:28 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
I kinda do too.... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
I hate talking on the phone. |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 8:35:46 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
If something can be done via text/email, I'm all about it as long as both parties are on the same page. |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 10:05:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
[#17]
Cool pic I came across during a visit to Eglin AFB recently.
AFSOC CCTs circa 2001 
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Posted: 7/20/2018 3:42:59 PM EDT
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Question for the group. Putting together another 14.5 upper for my block 1.5 to share a lower with my MK18. I have a LMT m203 I have on another cut down 6920 upper. Should I go for a socom or standard profile barrel? I want to switch out the m203 on this upper and was wondering am I losing much stability or durability with M203 not using a stiffer socom profile ? Also how much accuracy difference while there be for regular semi auto (IE not mag dumping) between standard and socom barrel you think? Thanks.
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Posted: 7/20/2018 10:33:02 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Cool pic I came across during a visit to Eglin AFB recently. AFSOC CCTs circa 2001
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416992/Screenshot_20180719-210025-613404.png |
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Posted: 7/20/2018 10:41:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Make_Mine_Moxie:
That same picture is in a stairwell in my building on Hurlburt, along with a few neat gunship pics. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Make_Mine_Moxie:
Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Cool pic I came across during a visit to Eglin AFB recently. AFSOC CCTs circa 2001
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416992/Screenshot_20180719-210025-613404.png This is in the Air Force Armament Museum. I had to drag the family through it twice. The gun collection alone is worth seeing. 
Hurlburt is very close, yes? |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 2:32:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Nice! This is in the Air Force Armament Museum. I had to drag the family through it twice. The gun collection alone is worth seeing.
Hurlburt is very close, yes? |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 11:16:31 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/21/2018 12:19:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/21/2018 12:22:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Nice! This is in the Air Force Armament Museum. I had to drag the family through it twice. The gun collection alone is worth seeing.
Hurlburt is very close, yes? |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 12:38:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: damn I pass by it every few weeks and have never been. I'll check it out. Gunships and hardware also. Not much of that near me here, nice to get a chance to see firsthand. |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 12:42:22 PM EDT
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@Infidel4life11 @Dobs013 
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Posted: 7/21/2018 12:47:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/21/2018 12:51:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/21/2018 12:51:38 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 5pt56:
https://i.imgur.com/pbBEHkU.jpg
Very nice @5pt56 |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 12:53:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
There's where the EE went.
Very nice @5pt56 
Thanks Bro! |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 12:57:05 PM EDT
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If you fella's look close enough, I have some work and touch up details I'd like to still get done. It's either I need time or money but I never have both at the same time!!
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Posted: 7/21/2018 1:45:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 5pt56:
https://i.imgur.com/NzvxDKq.jpg @Infidel4life11 @Dobs013 https://i.imgur.com/bzrpwAl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/u6ZuR58.jpg https://i.imgur.com/CDSZJ6X.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6DyPOsj.jpg 
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Posted: 7/21/2018 9:01:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
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M4A1 14.5 URGs for sale at SAC.
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Posted: 7/21/2018 11:23:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
https://imgur.com/THpdvJp.gif Originally Posted By 5pt56:
https://i.imgur.com/pbBEHkU.jpg |
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Posted: 7/22/2018 12:29:03 AM EDT
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Got the whole carry handle+handguard mounted aimpoint setup goin on. I need to move the vfg forward to re-balance if I plan to take it to the range like that. Used more as a rear hand stop/ afg if u know what I mean.
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Posted: 7/22/2018 12:41:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Minuteman1636]
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Posted: 7/22/2018 1:43:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
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Posted: 7/22/2018 8:43:38 AM EDT
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Are there any offset light mounts compatible with the SureFire M951 that would be appropriate for Block I?
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Posted: 7/22/2018 11:23:04 AM EDT
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Lots of great rifles on this page!
Adding mine into the mix... 
20180721-IMG_9285-Canon EOS 6D-EF35mm f-2 IS USM |
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Posted: 7/22/2018 12:37:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr:
Got the whole carry handle+handguard mounted aimpoint setup goin on. I need to move the vfg forward to re-balance if I plan to take it to the range like that. Used more as a rear hand stop/ afg if u know what I mean. http://i.imgur.com/XraOuwk.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LsGYP6T.jpg  I'm nearly finished with mines, just looking for the right light
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Posted: 7/22/2018 12:38:30 PM EDT
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Got out early this morning to get the clone dirty. It's already too shitty to be out; fuck this humidity right now.
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Posted: 7/22/2018 1:01:02 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Got out early this morning to get the clone dirty. It's already too shitty to be out; fuck this humidity right now.
https://imgur.com/06B0R1m.gif |
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Posted: 7/22/2018 5:29:15 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By prskiller:
I like your style I'm nearly finished with mines, just looking for the right lightQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By prskiller:
Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
Got the whole carry handle+handguard mounted aimpoint setup goin on. I need to move the vfg forward to re-balance if I plan to take it to the range like that. Used more as a rear hand stop/ afg if u know what I mean. http://i.imgur.com/XraOuwk.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LsGYP6T.jpg I'm nearly finished with mines, just looking for the right light |
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Posted: 7/22/2018 5:32:35 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Got out early this morning to get the clone dirty. It's already too shitty to be out; fuck this humidity right now.
https://imgur.com/06B0R1m.gif |
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Posted: 7/22/2018 5:51:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By eMc9001: That projekt monark patch tho. Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
That optic was a steal! I'm soo jealous. I paid double what you paid. |
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Posted: 7/22/2018 6:02:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
I missed out on the first run, had to snag one on the re-release. I was originally trying to get him to separate the Docter, but when he dropped the price on the whole thing I had to snatch it! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By eMc9001: That projekt monark patch tho. Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
That optic was a steal! I'm soo jealous. I paid double what you paid.
I like both but my eye just picks up an illuminated reticle so much faster |
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Posted: 7/22/2018 6:18:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
So now that you ditched your NSN and grabbed a 31 I’ll ask again. 31 or 01 for the win?
I like both but my eye just picks up an illuminated reticle so much faster
I like the ECOS reticle as well. Point out to 600m and area from 700-1000m.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/22/2018 6:23:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr:
@prskiller let me know what yer lookin for. I may be able to help. I've got some good block 1 surefires I'm holdin onto for cloners. Sort of cloning this one.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/22/2018 6:28:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DontBuryMe]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By prskiller:
@Dyzastr I just bought a Surefire 6z this morning so that will nearly complete my build. I want to find out what optics mounts was used back in the late 90s early 2000s to mount the Surefire flashlights? Sort of cloning this one. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/356129/BUDdZoU-616290.JPG ETA: You want one? I bought a set to use one for a 6P classic roundbody. I won't be using the other one. |
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Posted: 7/22/2018 6:33:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
[#50]
Ya, if it worked, it was used. Then there is always the arms17 that will fit m952s m9xx etc. there is an old school mount for the 660 available in the EE that would work?
For the 6z, any beat up/ painted 1" ring will suffice. |
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