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gaspipes
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Posted: 12/4/2012 4:49:37 PM
Are the DD bolt carrier groups on par with the BCM bcg's?

Meaning proper materials, properly staked keys, MP tested, shot preened etc, etc, etc....

I can play the notify game with BCM which I'm loosing at, or for $155 I can back order a DD BCG and get it when I get it. But I want something as good as BCM or better. DD rifles, rails etc are highly regarded top notch so I suspect the BCG will be top shelf but thought I'd ask.

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Posted: 12/4/2012 4:50:57 PM
They are both on a par..excellent BCGs
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Posted: 12/4/2012 4:54:29 PM
BCM and DD are the only BCGs I run. I'd put them on par.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 4:54:44 PM
Nice to hear. I snagged 2 DD BCGs on Black Friday. Will be here tomorrow!
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Posted: 12/4/2012 4:57:50 PM
Choose the logo you like either is a good choice.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 5:04:09 PM
Your question is backwards............
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Posted: 12/4/2012 5:05:53 PM
BCM, DD, LMT, Spikes they are all good. From my experience.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 5:09:33 PM
I perfer LMT or Colt BCG

Ive had good luck with CMT/STAG also

Does BCM or DD make there own carrier and bolt in house?
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Posted: 12/4/2012 5:11:17 PM
Don't know about BCM, but DD makes everything in house.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 5:11:54 PM
[Last Edit: 12/4/2012 5:14:56 PM by hotbiggun42]
Originally Posted By FMJ:
I prefer LMT or Colt BCG

I've had good luck with CMT/STAG also

Does BCM or DD make there own carrier and bolt in house?


Add Spikes to that list. I would be interested in knowing also.

A while back I read an article about BCM and the question was asked about the BCG and the owner said that they accidentally sold some of their BCGs with the F mark still on them. It was kind of a tease.
F mark Anyone?
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Posted: 12/4/2012 5:14:10 PM
Originally Posted By FMJ:
I perfer LMT or Colt BCG

Ive had good luck with CMT/STAG also

Does BCM or DD make there own carrier and bolt in house?


DD does....BCM doesn't.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 5:24:28 PM
Good list so far. I had a thunderbolt from denny's that seemed to be pretty good. I don't even know if they still carry them.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 5:54:12 PM
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What is an F mark in regards to a BCG? F marks have to do with FSB I thought.

Backwards queston? Is BCM as good as DD?

Edit: Never mind. Google says F marked bolts/carriers indicate FN contractor.

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Posted: 12/4/2012 6:40:47 PM
I dont care who makes what in house, what matters is the end result. That being said, has anyone put the BCM or DD bolts through a "torture" test?
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Posted: 12/4/2012 6:49:38 PM
Originally Posted By DSTRBD:
I dont care who makes what in house, what matters is the end result. That being said, has anyone put the BCM or DD bolts through a "torture" test?


Agreed.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 6:55:53 PM
Originally Posted By DSTRBD:
I dont care who makes what in house, what matters is the end result. That being said, has anyone put the BCM or DD bolts through a "torture" test?


Wouldn't the Filthy 14 cover this?
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Posted: 12/4/2012 7:00:46 PM
Originally Posted By cmcflex:
Originally Posted By DSTRBD:
I dont care who makes what in house, what matters is the end result. That being said, has anyone put the BCM or DD bolts through a "torture" test?


Wouldn't the Filthy 14 cover this?


this^ and the lav/dd testing should cover the other side of it.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 7:16:45 PM
I couldn't makeup my mind between the brands so I just bought both

A recce 14 and a dd middy
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Posted: 12/4/2012 7:35:58 PM
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Sorry, Im not familiar with that. Sounds like an interesting read though.

*heads to search function*

On edit: Just read it, I would say that definitely qualifies the BCM.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 9:22:54 PM
DD is every bit as good as BCM.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 9:49:08 PM
If its anything to add, when I called DD to recommend a bolt that would match well to their barrel extension when I couldn't secure a matching DD BCG. They recommend a BCM. They fit and function 100%. Great products and service to the DD guys.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 10:16:33 PM
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Don't know about BCM, but DD makes everything in house.


Daniel Defense does not make everything in house, but keep thinking it if you want. The company I used to work for made many of their forends and rails. We also made charging handles for BCM and VLTOR.

LMT,BCM, DD, Noveske are all top notch products IMO, even it they farm some of the work, they still quality check every piece they send out.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 11:03:27 PM
Originally Posted By cmcflex:
Originally Posted By DSTRBD:

I dont care who makes what in house, what matters is the end result. That being said, has anyone put the BCM or DD bolts through a "torture" test?


Wouldn't the Filthy 14 cover this?


Filthy 14 was/is a complete system ... not just a BCG.

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Posted: 12/4/2012 11:09:28 PM
Originally Posted By RogueSpear2023:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Don't know about BCM, but DD makes everything in house.


Daniel Defense does not make everything in house, but keep thinking it if you want. The company I used to work for made many of their forends and rails. We also made charging handles for BCM and VLTOR.

LMT,BCM, DD, Noveske are all top notch products IMO, even it they farm some of the work, they still quality check every piece they send out.


They make a lot more than most people. I am curious to what exactly they "farmed out", and what exactly you were doing with these "forends and "rails".

With two factories up and running, I find it highly unlikely DD would be farming work unless they were severely behind. I know several people personally that work for DD, one that machines rails, and have never heard of farming being done.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 11:51:18 PM
Originally Posted By GADeerHunter:
Originally Posted By RogueSpear2023:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Don't know about BCM, but DD makes everything in house.


Daniel Defense does not make everything in house, but keep thinking it if you want. The company I used to work for made many of their forends and rails. We also made charging handles for BCM and VLTOR.

LMT,BCM, DD, Noveske are all top notch products IMO, even it they farm some of the work, they still quality check every piece they send out.


They make a lot more than most people. I am curious to what exactly they "farmed out", and what exactly you were doing with these "forends and "rails".

With two factories up and running, I find it highly unlikely DD would be farming work unless they were severely behind. I know several people personally that work for DD, one that machines rails, and have never heard of farming being done.


I'd be interested as well.

I've spoken extensively with a few folks at DD, and done a lot of business with them...from what I've heard, I have little doubt that they're producing nearly everything in house.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 12:11:12 AM
I'm not familiar with this vendor, DELTA 3 TACTICAL . Anyone have any experience with them?

https://delta3tactical.com/store/products/Daniel-Defense-AR%252d15-Complete-Bolt-Carrier-Group.html

They appear to have DD and Spike's Tactical BCGs in stock for around $145-150, respectively.

They also have the chrome and nickel boron BCGs for a bit more. Worth it?
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