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Posted: 10/1/2012 12:16:31 PM
I just picked up a new PSA and took it to the range over the weekend. I'll start the review with a few pictures.

Out of the box with the D&H magazine with the enhanced follower.
http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y433/AnvilUSMC/OutOfTheBox_zps9c225d60.jpg

Set up with an EOTech, Magpul flip up rear sight, and a PMAG.
http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y433/AnvilUSMC/SetUp_zpsa8b56e81.jpg

http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y433/AnvilUSMC/buffer_zps271b59c3.jpg

View of the chamber before I cleaned it.
http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y433/AnvilUSMC/chamber_zpsc1147eb7.jpg

It has a 16" barrel with 1/7 twist that is hammer forged machine gun steel with a double thick chrome lined bore and chamber. As you can see in the pictures above it has the M4 feed ramps. The BCG is properly staked and is a full-auto carrier. Mil-spec receiver extension. The finish is "Hardcoat Anodizing: MIL-A-8625F, Type III, Class 2." The trigger breaks clean and the weight is typical for a factory trigger. The upper and lower come together with the perfect level of snugness, unlike the FN I had in the Marines that would rattle like crazy. Before going to the indoor range I zeroed the red dot to where the irons were and gave her a good cleaning and lube-ing. I brought a two-hundred bulk pack of Remington UMC 55 gr and two boxes of TulAmmo to see how she would digest the steel. At the range I shot the brass first and started out with just one round in a PMAG to test for function. Everything performed as it was supposed to so I loaded up five rounds to see how she would group before I started adjusting the sights. The first group was at 25 yards, standing, and landed in a group smaller than a quarter. 4 of the 5 shots were touching in a square shape with the loner just outside of the rest. After adjusting the irons and the EOTech I started putting the PSA through its paces. The range I went to has programmable targets that will edge and face you at various intervals, so I loaded up some magazines and had some fun with double taps and reloads. I got it hot enough to smoke and had zero malfunctions. The accuracy of the rifle seems to be quite good, the real test will be when I manage to get to an outdoor range with some real distance on it, but i was consistently punching large holes in the X ring. After 150 rounds of brass I switched over to the TulAmmo. Again, the rifle performed flawlessly. The bi-metal jackets are awesome to watch hit the back drop, they explode in sparks behind the target which brings the fun factor way up. And yes, the range allowed them, they even sell them there. So the first range trip consisted of 190 rounds of ammo in about 45 minutes of shooting time with zero issues at all. Cleaning went quick and all of the parts were in very good order.
Overall this is an outstanding rifle. The quality is absolutely top notch. I am extremely pleased with my choice and can't wait to get the round count through her into the thousands! If anyone has any questions about the rifle, feel free to ask.
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Posted: 10/1/2012 12:45:42 PM
Looks like a solid set-up. Congrats!
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Posted: 10/1/2012 1:24:50 PM
I was originally a bit of a detractor of PSA, they did have some problems and I think still struggle occaissionally. However they also are using top quality parts at very good, and sometimes ridiculously good prices. I have two PSA uppers although I haven'shot them enough to make any claims. One upper was $ 260ish dollars for a 6.8 upper with stainless steel barrel, the barrel is probably worth that alone.

I think one needs a little patience but PSA is a great value and the owner seems to be trying to do right by people.
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Posted: 10/1/2012 1:46:01 PM
Originally Posted By Aimless:
I was originally a bit of a detractor of PSA, they did have some problems and I think still struggle occaissionally. However they also are using top quality parts at very good, and sometimes ridiculously good prices. I have two PSA uppers although I haven'shot them enough to make any claims. One upper was $ 260ish dollars for a 6.8 upper with stainless steel barrel, the barrel is probably worth that alone.

I think one needs a little patience but PSA is a great value and the owner seems to be trying to do right by people.


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Posted: 10/1/2012 1:48:46 PM
This was on my short list for my first AR. I decided to go with the Core 15 MOE. Very similar specs to the PSA. Still hasn't shipped from Buds, hopefully today or tomorrow.
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Posted: 10/1/2012 2:01:26 PM
Congrats on your buy. I handled a Core 15 a month or two ago and it seemed good to go. I didn't inspect it by any means, but it had a really good feel to it. That was one of the brands I was going to look at getting if my local gun shop didn't have the PSA in stock.
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Posted: 10/1/2012 2:12:05 PM
Core 15 seems like a well run outfit. I have just never seen one of these things. They were posting about doing some receivers with tiger strip anondizing, which seemed kind of cool
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Posted: 10/1/2012 2:30:08 PM
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Core 15 seems like a well run outfit. I have just never seen one of these things. They were posting about doing some receivers with tiger strip anondizing, which seemed kind of cool


We just started handling Core 15 complete rifles at the LGS i work for a couple of months ago and the rifles themselves look very nice. They have a Cerekoted model that is very well done and I kicked it around for awhile, but still have not gotten back a lot of feedback on the quality. I'd like to see some guys buy them and run them hard and then I would be more apt to buy based on feedback. The other negative is on the cerekote model its near the price of a plain jane Colt6920 and if given the choice i would take the Colt all day long.

I also run few PSA and they have been great builds , but im still in the testing stages ( under 2000k rounds through them)

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Posted: 10/1/2012 2:38:11 PM
Like I said it'll be my first R so you may not want to take what i say as high on the knowledge chart.. I'll post about it when it comes in. I got it in black. Colors are OK, heck I even Durakot'ed my P3-AT but I wanted something more subdued and normal in the AR. But I did get all the MOE furniture... Good price for the specs.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411548151
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Posted: 10/1/2012 3:23:17 PM
Does the Core-15 rifle use a cold hammer forged barrel?
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Posted: 10/1/2012 3:34:09 PM
I have the same PSA but mine wears a Aimpoint PRO and ARMS 40 BUIS... great rifles
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Posted: 10/1/2012 3:39:56 PM
16” 4150 CMV Chrome Moly M4 profile Chrome Lined Barrel 1:7 Twist

Originally Posted By Alexville:
Does the Core-15 rifle use a cold hammer forged barrel?


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Posted: 10/1/2012 3:52:55 PM
I just got my 16" 6.8 upper from PSA, ordered on Aug 31 and came in today . From just looking at it I don't have any complaints and the price can't be beat, I hope it shoots well too. If they would just be faster on the shipping...
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Posted: 10/1/2012 3:56:35 PM
That's awesome you picked up the 6.8. Let me know how it shoots! I have always been curious about getting one but the ammo cost about the same as it does for my M1A SOCOM. Maybe I'll need a 6.8 upper too.
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Posted: 10/1/2012 7:13:26 PM
Looks great! I recently ordered some build items from PSA and cant wait for the big brown truck to show up.
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Posted: 10/1/2012 7:21:01 PM
Ive had my PSA 6.8 out a couple times now, I really like it. Way more accurate than I am. Zero failures so far. I can't wait to get a scope for it.
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Posted: 10/1/2012 11:29:54 PM
What are you building OkieHunter?
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Posted: 10/2/2012 12:19:06 AM
[Last Edit: 10/2/2012 12:21:07 AM by pavlovwolf]
Originally Posted By Aimless:
I was originally a bit of a detractor of PSA, they did have some problems and I think still struggle occaissionally. However they also are using top quality parts at very good, and sometimes ridiculously good prices. I have two PSA uppers although I haven'shot them enough to make any claims. One upper was $ 260ish dollars for a 6.8 upper with stainless steel barrel, the barrel is probably worth that alone.

I think one needs a little patience but PSA is a great value and the owner seems to be trying to do right by people.


Like I said very early on Aimless, they struck me as really good and honest people. I had the opportunity to sort of find out about them by accident. My dad was in a nursing home in the hometown of the owner, Jamin, and while I was stopped at a local store, I asked a guy there if there was a gunshop anywhere near there. The guy just said he heard a guy from down the street was gonna open one up in Columbia. I was looking to build my 6.8 at the time. I finally found out where it was at, and a friend and I went down to see them. There was no store as of yet. No front door or anything and they were months and months away from actually being officially open to the public. We called them and talked with Jamin and specified a time to meet, since we would have to go in through the warehouse, and pay in Jamin or Joe's office in there.

When we were greeted, we were met quickly by the owner and the original few staff, and they were very, very excited about the prospects of opening a first rate operation. Jamin spent the better part of an hour just showing us the empty building, and pointing out what would be where, and how things were to be run. He was very adamant about giving the customer the very best product for the least amount of money, and since I had been retail all my life, ( grew up in it ), we talked about some of the things that made the best businesses the best, and how lower prices but higher turnover ( of product ) is the answer in most industries with lots of competition, as it pleases the customer best, and makes the company more money. He had a great attitude towards pleasing the customer before and after the sale. I could tell immediately that he was a first class kind of guy, as was the core staff. And needless to say, people that are excited to be in a business, are better at it. We also discussed what they wanted to eventually do with producing their own rifles, uppers first, lower receivers and complete rifles secondly. They were interested in the customer feedback on things to a great degree.
My friend and I were impressed to say the least.

We also, on a trip later that following month, got to see the prints for the receivers, and the different designs for the logo. We also got to handle the prototype, ( #002) of the original receiver with the non Columbia address, and the original logo. I really wanted to buy that thing, but to no avail. lol

Then we saw the real deal when they shipped. The store was being opened, and their advertising went heavy on 68forums and here. From there, it just went ballistic. Jamin knew that they would grow fast, as my friend and I did. He didn't have a clue as to how fast they would grow though. Totally unexpected. They are still behind and packed all day, almost every day. They need new stores, lol.

I do hope they get stabilized, and get the inventory/ shipping / cs under total control. I do expect more big things to come from them.

PS.

Aimless, did you ever get your mags? Also. All the guys on 68forums that have gotten their PSA rifles or uppers have seen really good accuracy and reliability from them.
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Posted: 10/2/2012 1:35:45 AM
No, I haven't had time to chase down mags/bolt/carrier
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Posted: 10/2/2012 2:13:09 AM
Originally Posted By Aimless:
No, I haven't had time to chase down mags/bolt/carrier


I don't know of anyone that has bolts in right now. I know they are short everywhere. The 6.8s seem to run best with a full auto carrier though. The just use a 5.56/.223 carrier, so any that you find will work, just need the bolt.

I still recommend, as do most folks, the superbolt, but I understand your stance on that without going into it. There are a couple of other bolts that are similar, but there really isn't a lot of bolt thrust issue with it, so any reputable brand is good. Stag has been making real good 6.8 stuff for a long time and I haven't heard of any complaints on their bolts, and they show them in stock for $65.

Ben at Bison is great to deal with, and they use Stag primarily, and may have them.

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Posted: 10/2/2012 9:34:47 AM
very happy with PSA here as well. I would like to visit one of their stores one day. Maybe next time I drive up to FT Bragg I will stop in...

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Posted: 10/2/2012 10:11:15 AM
I'm pleased with both the complete PSA I bought 2 months ago and the upper I got Labor day sale.



Complete rifle, same model as the OP. Carry handle is from my Colt 6920, I'm planning on leaving it "caveman"



Hammer forged 16" upper with PSA build kit on a Spikes lower. I was going to move a Vortex Sparc from my Colt to this when I got the dough for a Aimpoint Pro (been off work few weeks, economy picking up my ass ) but now I'm thinking it's the equal of my Colt and might just put the Pro on it when I get it




My humble AR stash. I'm thinking right now I'm going to safe queen the Colt and see what happens electionwise (I want another but saving the dough until I get recalled at work) and run the PSA's....
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Posted: 10/2/2012 10:23:35 AM
Waiting on LPK & stock from PSA for a 7.62x39 build (SOTA upper/DSA stripped lower). Just finished a 5.45 build using a S&W complete upper and a stripped S&W lower.
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Posted: 10/2/2012 10:56:59 AM
Thats cool to see your ARs next to each other and to see how you like your PSA/Spike's set up so much compared to your Colt.

On that note and at the risk of starting an AR race war, the PSA really stacks up nicely internally and function-wise to the Colts and FNs I saw and used in the Marines. Those were A2's so there are the obvious differences but these PSA ARs are some serious heavy duty equipment in my opinion and observations.

Any one else have some pictures of there PSA's?
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Posted: 10/2/2012 11:14:42 AM
Originally Posted By AnvilUSMC:
Thats cool to see your ARs next to each other and to see how you like your PSA/Spike's set up so much compared to your Colt.

On that note and at the risk of starting an AR race war, the PSA really stacks up nicely internally and function-wise to the Colts and FNs I saw and used in the Marines. Those were A2's so there are the obvious differences but these PSA ARs are some serious heavy duty equipment in my opinion and observations.

Any one else have some pictures of there PSA's?


I admit that I bought my Colt just for the name. It is by no means superior to either of my PSA builds, nor are the ones that I use in the Army. Here is my other PSA:



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Posted: 10/2/2012 11:27:36 AM
You have two very nice PSAs DoorKicker. How is the accuracy on your 20"? My next AR is going to be a 20"er, I wanted to do an A2 but PSA seems to only have flat tops. So I have a dilemma there.
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