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214chad
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Posted: 9/20/2012 7:05:51 PM
Looking at SR15 now. hmmmmm....also something to think about.
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Posted: 9/20/2012 7:10:33 PM
What's your intention for the rifle?
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Posted: 9/20/2012 7:32:18 PM
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Who are you fooling, get both.
Also the SR-15.

Do you have any SBRs?
If not, I'd also consider that.
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Posted: 9/20/2012 7:50:07 PM
I'm a Noveske fan, but that Larue/Costa rifle is amazing. The config is perfect, although I don't own any Surefire suppressors.
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Posted: 9/20/2012 8:10:11 PM
Originally Posted By cchurchi:
I'm a Noveske fan, but that Larue/Costa rifle is amazing. The config is perfect, although I don't own any Surefire suppressors.


Does Surefire warranty their suppressors when used on a permanently attached muzzle device? I seem to remember a caveat about that.
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Posted: 9/20/2012 8:19:05 PM
Originally Posted By Ben762:
Originally Posted By cchurchi:
I'm a Noveske fan, but that Larue/Costa rifle is amazing. The config is perfect, although I don't own any Surefire suppressors.


Does Surefire warranty their suppressors when used on a permanently attached muzzle device? I seem to remember a caveat about that.


According to their website you should be good as long as the barrel is over 10"
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Posted: 9/20/2012 8:30:45 PM
My vote would be for the Costa if you plan on purchasing now..I shot the Costa and own/have owned my fair share of Noveske's..I probably would have bought the Costa if I didn't already have a few rifles in similar configurations but, if they ever come out with the black version I held at SHOT Show, I may just have to get that one since it doesn't cost as much..

I've been really impressed with the accuracy of the Larue's I've shot and I actually have an 18" OBR on order..
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Posted: 9/20/2012 8:47:43 PM
I would get the Costa rifle, without beard.
214chad
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Posted: 9/20/2012 8:53:29 PM
Forgive me for sounding like a nutjob zombie watch TEOTWAWKI kinda guy. I have several nice ARs in different configs for different purposes as well as other nice non AR weapons. What I am looking for now is the one rifle that I would take if I had to hit the road running from zombies with the real possibility of never seeing any of my other guns or home again (aside from my Benelli M4 and my HK p30 I would have to find some way of grabbing them as well). I guess I feel like if I have Chris Costa's weapon I can one day run one like he does.

Also, the next one I buy or build will be a suppressor host.
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Posted: 9/20/2012 10:21:45 PM
Originally Posted By 214chad:
Forgive me for sounding like a nutjob zombie watch TEOTWAWKI kinda guy. I have several nice ARs in different configs for different purposes as well as other nice non AR weapons. What I am looking for now is the one rifle that I would take if I had to hit the road running from zombies with the real possibility of never seeing any of my other guns or home again (aside from my Benelli M4 and my HK p30 I would have to find some way of grabbing them as well). I guess I feel like if I have Chris Costa's weapon I can one day run one like he does.

Also, the next one I buy or build will be a suppressor host.


Well then you want the Costa... it was built to host a suppressor!
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Posted: 9/20/2012 10:29:31 PM
haha, new gun budget, I have that too. I spent mine by february.

Originally Posted By Caboose314:
After looking at the thunder ranch rifle I may need to hide my credit cards

My new guns budget has been spent for the year

ETA: Include the LMT MWS in your .308 search. Some guys on snipershide have had awesome results with them.


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Posted: 9/20/2012 10:31:23 PM
That Costa rifle is pretty sweet. If I had the money, I'd take one home.
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Posted: 9/20/2012 10:59:28 PM
I would go with a Predatar or what ever it's called over the Costa. Cool configuration, excessive price.
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Posted: 9/20/2012 11:13:00 PM
Originally Posted By m4hk33:
considering that both are glorified parts guns, which the incidentally have over 50 percent of the gun manufactured by somebody else, have you ever considered just building up a rifle/carbine with top end parts?

its not like John or Mark posses some magical ability to pop in a gieselle trigger, screw on some troy back up sights or slip on the latest magpul or vltor stock.


i mean, they have some cool logo's on the recievers but i have yet to acctually seem them preform better than a comparibly equipped dpms or shrubmaster.


This.

Buying either of these rifles is buying a brand, not a rifle. Noveske's CL barrels are top-notch. Mine shoots as well as my 20" match rifle.

I'm not Costa - I don't want to buy Costa's idea of a perfect(ly marketable) rifle.
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Posted: 9/20/2012 11:49:00 PM
If I were to spend that kind of coin, I'd just get the regular OBR. Or more likely either buy a LaRue 308 OBR for hunting and medium range F-TR matches, or just build my own like I've always done for 30% less than an OBR.

But no one is debating whether or not the LaRue OBR is a fine rifle. I'd probably go with that in some form. In other words, you know what you really want anyway, just get that.
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Posted: 9/21/2012 4:03:23 AM
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Originally Posted By thornejc:
That thunder ranch guy who says you should NEVER use the forward assist pisses me off. LaRue Costa all the way. LaRue makes high quality stuff... I personally run LMTs but I have run a friends LaRue and it looked beautiful and shot well. However... he refused to go out in the swamp with it... its too pretty he said .

Again... the thunder ranch guy sucks donkey balls. Noveske should drop that Clint Smith dude off their name... I know he is like 120 years old and dementia is a terrible disease but Noveske can show that they care in ways other than giving this poor man his own rifle under the Noveske name.


You are a fool.


It's crap like what you've quoted that chases professionals away from this site and why it's (arfcom) often considered that laughing stock of gun forums.
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Posted: 9/21/2012 4:18:48 AM

Originally Posted By GreaseMonkey_AP:
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Originally Posted By thornejc:
That thunder ranch guy who says you should NEVER use the forward assist pisses me off. LaRue Costa all the way. LaRue makes high quality stuff... I personally run LMTs but I have run a friends LaRue and it looked beautiful and shot well. However... he refused to go out in the swamp with it... its too pretty he said .

Again... the thunder ranch guy sucks donkey balls. Noveske should drop that Clint Smith dude off their name... I know he is like 120 years old and dementia is a terrible disease but Noveske can show that they care in ways other than giving this poor man his own rifle under the Noveske name.


You are a fool.


It's crap like what you've quoted that chases professionals away from this site and why it's (arfcom) often considered that laughing stock of gun forums.

Please save generalized whining for general discussion
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Posted: 9/21/2012 9:47:43 PM
Originally Posted By GreaseMonkey_AP:
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Originally Posted By thornejc:
That thunder ranch guy who says you should NEVER use the forward assist pisses me off. LaRue Costa all the way. LaRue makes high quality stuff... I personally run LMTs but I have run a friends LaRue and it looked beautiful and shot well. However... he refused to go out in the swamp with it... its too pretty he said .

Again... the thunder ranch guy sucks donkey balls. Noveske should drop that Clint Smith dude off their name... I know he is like 120 years old and dementia is a terrible disease but Noveske can show that they care in ways other than giving this poor man his own rifle under the Noveske name.


You are a fool.


It's crap like what you've quoted that chases professionals away from this site and why it's (arfcom) often considered that laughing stock of gun forums.


Meh, professionals don't have thin skin ... and ARFcom is the antithesis of the laughing stock of gun forums. I know which ones those are.

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Posted: 9/24/2012 3:04:08 AM
Couldn't wait. I bought a Noveske Afghan 14.5" pinned with stainless barrell. I hope to make it to the range tomorrow.
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Posted: 9/24/2012 7:50:25 AM
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Originally Posted By 214chad:
Couldn't wait. I bought a Noveske Afghan 14.5" pinned with stainless barrell. I hope to make it to the range tomorrow.


Empty thy wallet for thine ammo.
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Posted: 9/24/2012 12:52:11 PM
The Costa blaster is awesome but to have 2900 wrapped up in a rifle that send rounds from point A to B is crazy......I had one of those KAC/MAGPUL SR15's and I sold it because I just couldn't see keeping a rifle that was over 3200 bucks when my other rigs were performing the same function.......With that being said you gotta buy whatever makes your boner the hardest at the end of the day !


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Posted: 9/24/2012 2:24:57 PM
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Originally Posted By GreaseMonkey_AP:
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Originally Posted By thornejc:
That thunder ranch guy who says you should NEVER use the forward assist pisses me off. LaRue Costa all the way. LaRue makes high quality stuff... I personally run LMTs but I have run a friends LaRue and it looked beautiful and shot well. However... he refused to go out in the swamp with it... its too pretty he said .

Again... the thunder ranch guy sucks donkey balls. Noveske should drop that Clint Smith dude off their name... I know he is like 120 years old and dementia is a terrible disease but Noveske can show that they care in ways other than giving this poor man his own rifle under the Noveske name.


You are a fool.


It's crap like what you've quoted that chases professionals away from this site and why it's (arfcom) often considered that laughing stock of gun forums.


Its was obviously a joke.... I am sure Clint Smith is a good person and is knowledgeable about how AR15s operate but I do have issues with some of his claims about the FA which is one of the distinguishing features of his Thunder Ranch Noveske (the lack of a forward assist). It is such misguided advice that, in my opinion, there is no reason to trust his opinion when there are so many other people out there who are extremely well versed in the function and operation of the weapon and who don't make these questionable claims. I apologize if your so called "professionals" are such stone cold killers and badasses that they have absolutely no sense of humor because all they can think about is blood but the forward assist discussion is a serious issue. The whole "you don't need a forward assist under any circumstance" is a legit argument and I personally consider it irresponsible to dismiss the idea of having one based on what I believe to be completely flawed logic. The OP didn't ask about this so I'm not going to go into it any further here but feel free to IM me or Email me if you want to discuss it.

I think that a bigger problem would be people who have to chime in when they don't have shit to say about what was in the original posting but anyways...

... now that you are looking at the KAC, I would still say go with the LaRue. Whether it is the Costa edition or not doesn't make much difference in my opinion. They are accurate, reliable, and well worth the money IMO. Everything that has come out of LaRue that I have had the privileged to use has been excellent. KAC makes really good stuff (I have owned one of their SR-15s and another one of their uppers). The KAC shoots well but has some proprietary parts that I do not like (operationparts.com does sell spare bolts for them but they are not interchangeable with the bolts from other ARs which isn't a huge deal but is a slight issue). The gas system is a proprietary length on the KAC as well so if you damage the gas tube during cleaning or in some other random way they aren't as easy to replace as your standard AR-15 gas tube. I also wasn't overly impressed with the URX-II not being T-marked or the stability of the front sight on the URX-II. LaRue rifles are beautiful as well if that makes a difference to you. The only issue I have with the Costa rifle is the length of the rail. I personally think it is unnecessary how long it is... it isn't good for reducing weight or improving cosmetics IMO but again, its my opinion and you have to remember that I am a fool supposedly.

** I saw your post where you bought the Noveske Afghan 14.5"... awesome choice. Noveske barrels kick ass and the 14.5" is a good length. Let us know how it goes. Awesome weapon. **

I apologize to greasemonkey and all the other shocked and disgusted professionals who were offended by my previous post.
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Posted: 9/24/2012 3:22:15 PM
Originally Posted By skt4271:
haha, new gun budget, I have that too. I spent mine by february.

Originally Posted By Caboose314:
After looking at the thunder ranch rifle I may need to hide my credit cards

My new guns budget has been spent for the year

ETA: Include the LMT MWS in your .308 search. Some guys on snipershide have had awesome results with them.




I actually blew mine in February as well.

I still haven't gotten the tax stamp or taken possession of my new toy (SBR) though .
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Posted: 9/24/2012 3:49:10 PM
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I think the Costa edition has some ghey on it, beautiful gun, but I can do without that dudes name on it. OBR or KAC Mod 1 would be nice.
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