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Posted: 6/27/2012 2:43:55 PM

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Can it be done? I need to find a lower, parts kit, upper, BCG, and CH, for all under $500. Where should I look?
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Posted: 6/27/2012 3:03:00 PM
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Not decent ones.

Maybe in the $600-$700 dollar range with PSA, about as cheap as I'd go if you are going to ever rely on the rifles for hard use.

Lower build kit w/o lower: $105
M4 Upper Sale: $300
PSA BCG : $140

=$540 before the lower
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Posted: 6/27/2012 3:19:53 PM
Surplus Ammo and Arms has some uppers for $299 too.

You "might" be able to get the costs down a little bit if you want to assemble the uppers yourself, SA&A also has some barrels for $99 and stripped uppers for $55. SA&A also offers slight discounts on uppers and lowers when you buy a 5 pack. I haven't done a cost analysis after adding all the fiddly bits to those DIY uppers though.
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Posted: 6/27/2012 3:26:54 PM
I have a DPMS in one of my AR's and it has been perfect

its only $50

http://www.surplusammo.com/dpms-ar-15-complete-lower-receiver-parts-kit/
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Posted: 6/27/2012 3:37:35 PM
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If you can find a Cav Arms lower you can often save money on the lower as a whole... but even then I'd be hard pressed to be sub $600. And that is without optics, rear sights, or magazines.

Delton has complete kits for $470 + lower + mags + sights... and in my experience they have solid stuff.

Your best bet is to find some blemished/ cheap lowers and buy six... then get quality BCGs and decent LPKs (PSA come to mind). You'll probably have +/- $250 per rifle in it at this point.

Then attempt to find (probably a hodge podge) of used barrels, uppers, and stocks off of the EE. You may be able to get it done.

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Posted: 6/27/2012 3:39:58 PM

Originally Posted By silveradoguy17:
Can it be done? I need to find a lower, parts kit, upper, BCG, and CH, for all under $500. Where should I look?


Nope. Can't be done. You could get away with building 6 extremely cheap ones for that price though.

DSA ZM4 A3 uppers - $240
DSA charging handles - $14
Joeboboutfitters NFA complete lowers - $104.95 - free shipping
rguns BCG - $107.50 after shipping


That puts you at $466.45 each. This doesn't include the cost of transferring the lowers at your ffl, or cost of shipping from DSA(I'd imagine that split between everything, may add $6 or $7 per rifle) That is the absolute cheapest you can get right now, and keeps you at under $475 per gun.



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Posted: 6/27/2012 3:40:17 PM
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Other posters did more digging, nvm
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Posted: 6/27/2012 3:42:13 PM

Originally Posted By Pothole:
I have a DPMS in one of my AR's and it has been perfect

its only $50

http://www.surplusammo.com/dpms-ar-15-complete-lower-receiver-parts-kit/

That's great, but the poster above you was trying to do this cheaply, thus recommending the PSA lower build kit. Lower parts kit =/= lower build kit.
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Posted: 6/27/2012 3:45:47 PM
bahaha. It can be done but will take several months of waiting for the right deal for individual parts.
Do it right or do it again.
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Originally Posted By Napkin_Legend:
bahaha. It can be done but will take several months of waiting for the right deal for individual parts.

I really don't think this is accurate.
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Originally Posted By Justin3:

Originally Posted By Napkin_Legend:
bahaha. It can be done but will take several months of waiting for the right deal for individual parts.

I really don't think this is accurate.


Try to find cheap BCG right now in-stock. Lots of places are backordered on parts and just filling orders as they come in.
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Posted: 6/27/2012 4:27:04 PM
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It can be done....... They wont be decent though. Need to either give yourself a little more budget room or cut down a rifle or two or three to make sure you get a quailty built one.
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Posted: 6/27/2012 5:04:37 PM

Originally Posted By EdgecrusherXES_45:
Originally Posted By Justin3:

Originally Posted By Napkin_Legend:
bahaha. It can be done but will take several months of waiting for the right deal for individual parts.

I really don't think this is accurate.


Try to find cheap BCG right now in-stock. Lots of places are backordered on parts and just filling orders as they come in.

Yeah, I did. I posted it a few posts up.
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Posted: 6/27/2012 5:16:19 PM
You could do a New Frontier polymer lower and piece the upper together with DSA parts. That would probably get you close
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Posted: 6/27/2012 5:29:19 PM
Originally Posted By Justin3:

Originally Posted By Pothole:
I have a DPMS in one of my AR's and it has been perfect

its only $50

http://www.surplusammo.com/dpms-ar-15-complete-lower-receiver-parts-kit/

That's great, but the poster above you was trying to do this cheaply, thus recommending the PSA lower build kit. Lower parts kit =/= lower build kit.




AHHH
I was wondering why it way so expensive, I thought it was just a LPK

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Posted: 6/27/2012 5:43:12 PM

Originally Posted By Pothole:
Originally Posted By Justin3:

Originally Posted By Pothole:
I have a DPMS in one of my AR's and it has been perfect

its only $50

http://www.surplusammo.com/dpms-ar-15-complete-lower-receiver-parts-kit/

That's great, but the poster above you was trying to do this cheaply, thus recommending the PSA lower build kit. Lower parts kit =/= lower build kit.




AHHH
I was wondering why it way so expensive, I thought it was just a LPK


Yeah, lower build kit includes stock, buffer tube, buffer spring, and end plate.

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Posted: 6/27/2012 5:58:32 PM
You might want to consider the PSA complete lower for $239 and free shipping. I bought one last month, very nice looking.
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Posted: 6/27/2012 6:12:48 PM
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how do we define "decent"= accuracy?looks?reliability?durability?
iron sights only? carry handle?


I think for my definition of "decent" I would have to think in more the $600 range IMHO
Every way I come up with the figures is in the $580-650 range, and that doesn' take into account availablity of parts as one poster stated
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Posted: 6/27/2012 6:57:50 PM
if your looking to piece them together....including the barrels....

SOTA Arms has a 3-pack of 16" 1x9 M4 style barrels for $250

You could probably get some RGuns lowers or Aero Precision for around $70-80 each (maybe others)

add LPK's, BCG's, buffer tubes, stocks, etc.

FWIW- $500 won't build a "bad gun" per say, but it probably will leave some to be desired when you compare it to what $100 (even $200) more could do for you. i.e. there's a lot of good options out there in the $600-$700 range, and if you decide to assemble it yourself (rather than buy a factory gun), you could probably come out with a few upgrades such as MOE stock, grip, etc. vs standard A2 grip, M4 stock...

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Posted: 6/27/2012 6:58:45 PM
I would call someone like PSA and tell them what you need and seeing that you need 6 guns maybe they can work with you if buy all at once.
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watch the EE and look for some deals
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Posted: 6/27/2012 7:43:36 PM
there is cheap, good condition (quality), or fast

pick 2
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Posted: 6/27/2012 8:48:23 PM
I helped a church group build some rifles one time. they bought their own lowers and kits and I helped them with assembly. They bought Essential Arms lowers for $59 at a local Atlanta gun show and I had them buy 16in chrome lined lightweight kits with A2 uppers from JT. I believe each kit was $525 so they were under $600 and I believe at the time (2005 ish) that was the best you could do and still have a dependable carbine.

Now I would probably go with DSA uppers and PSA lowers and you can probably get it done for about $550 each.
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Posted: 6/27/2012 9:10:00 PM
And why exactly do you need to do this? Just curious.
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Originally Posted By theworkingman:
And why exactly do you need to do this? Just curious.


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