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Posted: 4/20/2012 2:11:02 PM
Any thoughts on the S&W M&Ps? Are they quality products, compared to say a Stag or an LMT?

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Posted: 4/20/2012 2:20:28 PM
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At one time Pat Rogers recommended them. Don't know if he still does.
The VT looks nice

A few of there models I would say are just as good as my LMT
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Posted: 4/20/2012 2:35:17 PM
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I have the M&P 15X and the only complaint I have is that it is picky about ammo. It does not like steel cased ammo, and most people will tell you that you should NEVER use steel cased ammo in your AR. My thought is if it can't shoot the steel then it is a quality issue with the rifle. Now if I have it dripping wet with lube it will shoot the steel stuff. I just built a PSA and it will eat anything and cost me about $300 less. Quality is top notch in the M&P though, mine came with a Troy rear folding sight and quad rail. I have since added a Eotech and it is my go to SHTF rifle.
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Posted: 4/20/2012 5:23:25 PM
They have a wide product line that caters to just about everyone, the m&p ts comes with a 1/7 cmv barrel. Other models have piston setups, and everything in between

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Posted: 4/20/2012 5:27:43 PM
No quality issues with my M&P OR. I also spend some time on the S&W specific forums and can say that there are few if any complaints. For me (range shooter), it's been a great entry into the AR world and quality complete build.
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Posted: 4/20/2012 5:33:01 PM
Not one hick up out of mine yet. Goes bang everytime with all of my reloads.
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Posted: 4/20/2012 5:47:20 PM
I'm a Colt guy but the M&P gets my attention. They make quality products and have good customer service.
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Posted: 4/20/2012 5:52:43 PM
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I've had a S&W M&P M4gery for about 4 years now. A few thousand rounds with no issues. It seems more accurate than other 1:9 chrome lined that i have been around.
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Posted: 4/20/2012 5:53:13 PM
Originally Posted By doubleshot00:
Not one hick up out of mine yet. Goes bang everytime with all of my reloads.


Ditto and I've purposefully shot handloads from gun to gun to highlight any issues that might come up from slight differences in case sizing.

All controls are positive and the trigger is great {for a hard single-stage "GI" trigger}.

No malfunctions yet but I've only fired about 500 rounds.

I like it...a lot.
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Posted: 4/20/2012 6:58:38 PM
My buddy has one with about 2,000 rds thru it .Iam impressed with the quality & accuracy of his rifle .I read an article saying they are building everything in house for the M&P rifles,
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Posted: 4/22/2012 5:28:05 AM
I always thought of them as the best of the middle of the road guns, and now they seem to have stepped up their game. From 4140 barrel steel with a 1/9 twist to CMV in 1/7. 5R rifling and Melonite coated bores. I like the Magpul lowers they are using on their newer rifles as well. The only thing I don't like about the ones I've seen lately is that the flash hider is ugly as sin. Easy fix though, and this is just a personal preference about looks.
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Posted: 4/22/2012 6:19:05 AM
I have the M&P15 sport and love the gun, It is a little picky on ammo like stated. It runs 100% with steel for me though and brass also. But some reloads do not like to chamber completely but the same ones in my other AR chamber fine and go boom. I think I may have fixed the issue though with changing my die sizing a bit will see next time I hit the range. But I would highly recommend the gun if someone was looking for a complete gun for a good price
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Posted: 4/22/2012 6:55:15 AM
Originally Posted By gotigers:
I've had a S&W M&P M4gery for about 4 years now. A few thousand rounds with no issues. It seems more accurate than other 1:9 chrome lined that i have been around.


Last I heard T/C was providing the barrels, that might provide the edge in accuracy.
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Posted: 4/22/2012 7:31:52 AM
I've seen quite a few at our club. last time there a fella had a cheaper model. no port door or F/A.

He shot a shit load 3-400 rnds. of that steel cased Tula through it. I never noticed any malfunctions.

they must be priced right I guess?
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Posted: 4/22/2012 8:48:01 AM
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A buddy of mine has the VTAC 1. It's the tits.

The VTAC 2 has has a 5r 1x8 barrel, a nice Troy free float rail, VTAC sling, and a pimpy Giselle trigger.

They're good guns.

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Posted: 4/22/2012 9:07:40 AM
Originally Posted By haydendavid380:
A buddy of mine has the VTAC 1. It's the tits.

The VTAC 2 has has a 5r 1x8 barrel, a nice Troy free float rail, VTAC sling, and a pimply Giselle trigger.

They're good guns.




thats one model I would be happy to own.
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Posted: 4/22/2012 9:57:47 AM
I have the FT model here in ny, and it has been great. No problems at all. From fit and finish to functioning.........perfect. Cant complain.
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Posted: 4/22/2012 10:12:09 AM
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I had the M&P15 MOE never had an issue with it. only reason I got rid of it was because I wanted a full milspec rifle (minus FA of course) but I would recommend them to some one wanting a quality AR

It looks like they have gone away from the 1/9 barrels and are using 1/8 in some of the newer models
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Posted: 4/22/2012 12:54:14 PM
Originally Posted By jerp225:
I have the M&P 15X and the only complaint I have is that it is picky about ammo. It does not like steel cased ammo, and most people will tell you that you should NEVER use steel cased ammo in your AR. My thought is if it can't shoot the steel then it is a quality issue with the rifle. Now if I have it dripping wet with lube it will shoot the steel stuff. I just built a PSA and it will eat anything and cost me about $300 less. Quality is top notch in the M&P though, mine came with a Troy rear folding sight and quad rail. I have since added a Eotech and it is my go to SHTF rifle.


I had the same experience with my M&P 15 a few years back. Ate brass cased all day long, but any steel cased would frequently stick in the chamber. Sent it back to S&W who apparently reamed the chamber out, and the problems persisted.

My 20" PSA build eats anything. I would get a PSA over an M&P15