Originally Posted By Duffy:
The ar15.com billet receiver price is often debated, time and again, when folks add up the cost of components on the ar15.com lower, the stripped lower is but $250 or so, far from outrageous.
If you bought a billet receiver and put a 45 degree selector ($85), Geissele 3 gun trigger ($230), Magpul UBR stock ($250) and MIAD grip ($35), already these premium parts are at $600.
Ed and the folks at ar15.com are our friends and partners, that fact notwithstanding, the numbers do point to an unbiased conclusion that the ar15.com billet lower is quite reasonable.
For a long time Ed did not want to sell the stripped lower, and for those that haven't read it elsewhere I will elaborate. Just on the selector alone, Ed and we spent a lot of time going over every detail. As attention to detail is one of the areas we're well known for, we found much in common with Ed.
It's easy to notice what is there, you may also pay attention to what is NOT there by design.
The original ar15.com billet receiver had selector stops, those were milled off in order for the new 45/90 compatible FIRE pictogram to be there. Even the location of the new 45/90 compatible FIRE pictogram was up to discussion. 68 degree was found to be perfect for it be usable whether a 45 or 90 degree selector is in the receiver.
The ar15.com lower was going to be 45 degree compatible only, after extensive discussion, Ed agreed to make it 45/90 compatible so the customer can use the short throw selector, or go old school with the 90 degree selector.
Folks, we were involved in just the selector part of this project, where our 45 degree selectors already exist. If we extrapolate this and assume the same amount of time Ed and staff spent on other components (in all likelihood, probably more), this project is enormously expensive in time and cost.
Ed and staff spent a great deal of time finding components that compliment each other. Each component by itself, when used singly in a receiver, brings couple of improvements. When these components are combined and used in a receiver expressly made to take advantage of their attributes, this receiver is special and unique. I understand why Ed did not want to sell it as stripped.
Thank you for the info. That is what I was looking for. I do apologize if this was discussed in the past. I missed it because I probably was not researching or looking for billet lowers then. As far as the UBR stock, it is a $50 upgrade to the price over the CTR, making the total $870+. You can get them all day for just over $200. It just doesn't add up and that is too bad, because I would buy one today if the price were more in line with the total of the parts.