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Posted: 8/2/2011 6:35:13 PM
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Looking for the best way to either buy or build a complete M16A4 clone


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I know a TON about carbines but not shit about AR full lengths.
Basically wanting one to mount a scope, bipod and flashlight. Just finished a DD 14.5, going to do the rifle now, and SBR later.

What manufacturers do I need to look at?
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Posted: 8/2/2011 6:50:48 PM
What is it that you presume is any different about rifles and carbines?

Are you looking to make an M16A4 clone? Or just a long rifle? Or a DM-R?

BCM makes 20" barrels. No idea if they're in stock at the moment.

The standards for what's good and what's not will remain the same.

Most of the good rail producers produce a 12" version that will work for a 20" rifle.

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Posted: 8/2/2011 6:51:48 PM
M16A4 clone.
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Posted: 8/2/2011 7:03:05 PM
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Posted: 8/2/2011 7:03:41 PM
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Find the M16A4 Clone Picture and Discussion thread.

Purchase a Colt MT6700C.

Purchase either a Colt, FN, or BCM 20" A2/A4 barrel.

Swap the factory HBAR for the gov't profile barrel.

Sell the MT6700C barrel.

Purchase a KAC M5 RAS off the EE.

Add scope, bipod, and light of choice. "Correct" for the scope is typically either the TA31F or TA31RCO-A4 depending on time period.

Another Option - BCM complete A4

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Posted: 8/2/2011 7:07:13 PM
Originally Posted By Augee:
Find the M16A4 Clone Picture and Discussion thread.

Purchase a Colt MT6700C.

Purchase either a Colt, FN, or BCM 20" A2/A4 barrel.

Swap the factory HBAR for the gov't profile barrel.

Sell the MT6700C barrel.

Purchase a KAC M5 RAS off the EE.

Add scope, bipod, and light of choice. "Correct" for the scope is typically either the TA31F or TA31RCO-A4 depending on time period.

Another Option - BCM complete A4

~Augee

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m16a4 (clone) picture thread


Top section would be correct, but I'd go the easy route and hit up BCM
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Posted: 8/2/2011 7:09:10 PM
BCM or Palmetto State Armory.
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Originally Posted By gunner_71:
BCM or Palmetto State Armory.


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Posted: 8/2/2011 7:23:40 PM
Here's one I just put together last week with a JD Machine lower and BCM 20" upper


This is my other A4 clone, a Colt MT6700 with a Colt A2 barrel assembly

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Posted: 8/2/2011 7:25:29 PM
Bravo is your best bet. I'm not aware of anyone else making government profile, 1/7 twist rifle barrels.
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Originally Posted By Couch-Commando:
Bravo is your best bet. I'm not aware of anyone else making government profile, 1/7 twist rifle barrels.


i bought a complete Bushmaster upper from PK Firearms....1/7,CL, MPI, government profile, 4150 barrel.

Coupled with my complete DS Arms lower, my A4 cost me $775 out the door.
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Posted: 8/2/2011 8:28:53 PM
You can order a Bushmaster 20" government profile 1/7 twist.

You can buy the BCM upper, like I did.

Or, you can order the Palmetto. Link

Barrel: 20", 4150 Steel, Government style profile, 5.56 NATO chamber with a 1:7 twist , chrome-lined, lead-lapped and air-gauged bore, rifle-length gas port, and M4 feedramps. Barrels are finished off with a taper pinned, f-marked, front sight post, standard handguards, and an A2 flash hider.

Upper: Forged 7075-T6 A3 AR upper is made to MIL-SPECS and hard coat anodized black for durability. Featuring machined T marks, and a mil-spec finish. These uppers are made for us right here in the USA by a mil-spec manufacturer, and are marked with the Palmetto State Armory logo on the left side, up front, just below the rail.

Bolt: Bolt is made of Mil-spec Carpenter 158 steel, Shot peened, MPI and HPT. Gas key is secured with grade 8 fasteners and staked per mil-spec. Bolt carrier is parkerized outside, chrome lined inside, and laser engraved with the Palmetto State Armory logo

Each upper is assembled to order with care. Please allow allow 7 business days for your upper to ship.

Pricing: $409.95 ea

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Posted: 8/2/2011 8:40:06 PM
Bushmaster 20" GovPro upper from PK Firearms
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Palmetto State Armory 20" GovPro upper
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Posted: 8/2/2011 10:10:35 PM
Originally Posted By Couch-Commando:
Bravo is your best bet. I'm not aware of anyone else making government profile, 1/7 twist rifle barrels.

Along with BCM: CMMG, Palmetto, Model 1 Sales, Bushmaster. And those are just the ones that I can think of off the top of my head.
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Posted: 8/2/2011 10:32:48 PM
I went with Palmetto. My A4 clone is still in progress, but I build the stripped lower (CMMG lower and LPK) tonight. Here is the rifle in its current form. I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but the upper looks well put together.









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Posted: 8/3/2011 5:01:17 AM

Originally Posted By 86HMMWV:
Originally Posted By Couch-Commando:
Bravo is your best bet. I'm not aware of anyone else making government profile, 1/7 twist rifle barrels.

Along with BCM: CMMG, Palmetto, Model 1 Sales, Bushmaster. And those are just the ones that I can think of off the top of my head.
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Posted: 8/3/2011 5:47:27 AM
I'd look at Bravo Co. But don't forget about the EE. Landman usually has some good deals on 20' colt or fn barrels.
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