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Posted: 7/26/2011 3:00:05 AM
You are really lucky. Glad your ok. Thanks for sharing the pics.

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Posted: 7/26/2011 3:54:29 AM
what ammo was used?
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Posted: 7/26/2011 4:02:51 AM
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One word (to avoid): reloads.

You just about never hear of KBs with factory ammo...just sayin'.

The most important thing was no one was hurt.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 4:10:11 AM
Holy crap glad your OK! Tag for outcome as i recently purchased some ammo from the same company. (maybe this is why it hasn't been shipped yet)
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Posted: 7/26/2011 4:11:42 AM
Glad you weren't hurt.

Have you contacted the ammo manufacturer? There is a possibility they will replace your rifle if it can be shown their ammo was at fault. Just saying. You may be able to recoup some of your losses.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 4:15:40 AM
Glad you are ok. That is scary shit. Hopefully the ammo company takes care of you.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 5:17:36 AM
Tap, Rack, Bang. You'll be fine.



I'll live through your experience and never buy those cheap reloads. I'll stick with federal for a few more dollars.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 6:57:33 AM
Originally Posted By Engel12626:
Wow. I don't think my pants would be clean after an incident like that haha.


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Posted: 7/26/2011 6:58:13 AM
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Shit, double tap. Stupid phone.....
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Posted: 7/26/2011 7:09:05 AM
Glad to hear youre ok. I have 100 rounds of usa vmax 55gr sitting here. Starting to wonder if I should use it or not
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Posted: 7/26/2011 7:19:01 AM
Wow! Glad and amazed you didn't get hurt.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 7:26:23 AM
Originally Posted By mikeb87:
Damn! Glad you're ok. I'm interested in how this turns out for you since I'm pretty sure I ordered some ammo from the same place


My buddy had issues this week with .308/7.62x51 ammo from the same company. His brand new ArmaLite AR-10 was tearing rims of their 175 gr. match ammo. Assuming the problems were caused by the new rifle, he sent his upper back to ArmaLite for inspection.

We still have about 450 rounds each of 5.56 and 7.62x51 left which will be returned.

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Posted: 7/26/2011 8:14:55 AM
Wow, that is an epic kaboom. Glad you're okay. Sorry about your rifle.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 8:18:13 AM
Originally Posted By KILLERB6:
One word (to avoid): reloads.

You just about never hear of KBs with factory ammo...just sayin'.

The most important thing was no one was hurt.


I would like to clarify a couple of things here.

1) Reloads are fine, if YOU reload them and YOU follow the rules and ensure it's done properly. I've fired THOUSANDS of rounds of reloaded ammunition in several calibers, both handgun and rifle, without any issues whatsoever. The key here is to not trust reloads from a stranger. That is taking your life into your own hands, IMHO.

2) While they do happen less often, you most certainly CAN have a kaboom with factory ammo. I have heard of more than a single instance of this happening. Ammo factories can make mistakes too. The production machine leaves a powder charge out of a single round of ammo, also known as a "squib". The primer/low charge round has enough oomph to launch the bullet, but not enough to get it out of the end of the barrel. The round behind the squib comes into battery, gets fired into the obstructed barrel, and blammo... you're holding shrapnel.

The key here is to be careful kids. If you want to shoot reloads, buy a press and some books, get a mentor, and learn how to do it properly to be safe. Wear eye protection when you're shooting. Don't count on perfect ammunition just because it's factory ammo. Factory ammo can fail too. If you're being safe, none of the above will usually cause major bodily damage and you'll live to shoot another day.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 8:26:12 AM
Wow, that's the worst I have seen yet.
Glad everybody is ok and no permanent damage..

Please keep us updated as to the source and lot # of the ammo, I have a guess but we will see.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 8:29:08 AM
The gas rings were not staggered....there's your problem...

I'm impressed...nice blow out.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 8:29:35 AM
Sucks about your rifle OP, but so glad you weren't any more injured. That looks as though it could have very easily caused more tissue damage. Things like this should re-emphasize how important protective gear is....ear plugs, glasses etc.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 8:37:23 AM
Wow glad you made it through that with minor injuries. Also glad to hear your ACOG made it through that (Larue mount must have deflected the shock).

I saw some reloads at a gunshow a couple days ago that I was tempted to buy. But like a previous poster said, I just don't get a warm fuzzy buying reloads from a stranger. In the end, I'll just spend a little more for the peace of mind.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 8:55:23 AM
That really blows...literally! Glad none of the severe damage happened to you. Sucks for your AR though.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 8:55:50 AM
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Pics of case?
Any damage to your barrel? (looking for signs of an obstruction)

A true OOB discharge would separate the case head, would it not?
The condition of the bolt looks like the carrier group tried to open the action while still under pressure (and partially or mostly succeeded); the cam pin twisted/tore the tail of the bolt off.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 8:57:48 AM
How about some pics of the barrel?
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Posted: 7/26/2011 9:02:36 AM
Glad you're doing well.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 9:05:01 AM
In for the reply from the ammo manufacturer / seller.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 9:05:17 AM
Wow I'd really like to know what was in that round. That looks like more damage than an over charge of a normal powder for .223 could cause.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 9:09:11 AM
Thats definitely an epic kaboom. Glad you are ok. Had I known I would have called dibs on the stuff beforehand but I dont think I'd want whats left of that rifle!
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