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NVCapCop Member Joined: Jul 2007  USA Posts: 1069 Feedback: 100% (51)

Posted: 7/26/2011 12:29:14 AM [Last Edit: 8/17/2011 11:15:32 PM by NVCapCop] THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT My S&W M&P15T was destroyed today with an epic Kaboom (catastrophic failure). I did not suffer any major physical injuries - received a welt on my left bicep (MagPul AFG hold) that looks like a bad bug bite or bee sting from shrapnel impacting my skin. A tiny little cut on the left forearm as well as lots of tiny red dots on inner side of elbow. The injuries felt kind of like a rug burn a few hours after the event. Cartridge #45 out of the first 50 round box. USAammo 223 55 gr FMJ Lot #2906113. The ammo was recently purchased USAammo, remanufactured on once fired LC brass. As you can see from the pics, the usual parts suffered catastrophic damage. The Troy quadrail seems to have helped keep the upper receiver from completely coming apart. The destruction: Both sides of S&W factory upper assembly, the dustcover, both front corners of the magwell, hairline fractures directly under the left and right sides of the picatinny rail, cracked barrel extension in the middle of the feedramp, factory lower bulged on the bolt catch side. The PSA MPI bolt, the Failzero bolt carrier, and the PMag were completely damaged also. Possible damage: BCM vltor gunfighter CH, RRA 2 stage trigger/hammer, pivot pins. Parts and accessories that survived the blast: ACOG TA31F with LaRue Mount, MagPul AFG, BAD lever and MOE grip, BattleComp 1.0, Vltor Modstock, Troy Rail and Sights. Update 7/26/11: Spoke to the CEO this a.m. He is eager to investigate the ammo lots so KBs don't happen to other purchasers. He admitted that some of his ammo has been overpressured due to "Western" powder supplier using powders with faster burn rates. The overpressure would also explain why my buddy had so many stuck cases of .308 175 gr. match ammo in his ArmaLite AR-10. Update 7/28/11: Refund for ammo issued IMMEDIATELY after UPS tracking # emailed to USAammo. Firearm shippped overnight to Company FFL for inspection. CEO has promised payment for the cost of the rifle, aftermarket parts, shipping. Total to be determined. Update 7/28/11: Recall for specific lot number issued today to all purchasers who bought ammo this month (July 2011). Contact CS for return instructions. Post on p.7 from member in PA stating a similar type KB occurred with his M&P15. Update 8/1/11: Although the cause of the overpressure issue remains a mystery, the CEO has agreed to reimburse me for my loss. The company has taken all necessary steps to prevent future issues. Update 8/4/11: I received my check for the damaged rifle today. USAammo absolutely did the right thing. In the process of purchasing parts for a new build.

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M1CARBINE4LIFE Walk Away!!!! Team Member Joined: Jul 2008  FL, USA Posts: 593 Feedback: 100% (6) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 12:31:02 AM Glad your ok Damn that was bad
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pun Member Joined: Mar 2001  USA Posts: 1822 Feedback: 100% (55) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 12:34:11 AM Man glad your ok and that sucks for your rifle..the one thing I always notice in these accidents is how well the AR15 absorbs the kaboom and protects the operator.
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diaz_aa كافر Team Member Joined: Oct 2006  TX, USA Posts: 2998 Feedback: 100% (3) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 12:37:32 AM Never buy someone's reloads?
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sinlessorrow Member Team Member Joined: Jun 2010  TX, USA Posts: 2518 Feedback: 100% (36) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 12:37:39 AM Originally Posted By pun: Man glad your ok and that sucks for your rifle..the one thing I always notice in these accidents is how well the AR15 absorbs the kaboom and protects the operator. thats a good point, i wonder how something like a SCAR or ACR would hold up? glad your ok OP
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a308garand M1 Garand Solves Problems Quick Team Member Joined: Jul 2002  CA, USA Posts: 2057 Feedback: 100% (10) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 12:39:43 AM Glad you are ok! Think Magpul will warranty the magazine? Tag for ammo company outcome.......
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Logan09 Member Joined: Feb 2008  USA Posts: 1682 Feedback: 100% (81) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 12:41:24 AM I don't think I've seen one were the lower was affected also(Possibly wrong) Also looks like the barrel extension cracked?(By the feed ramp)
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Engel12626 Member Joined: Jun 2011  MI, USA Posts: 7 Feedback: 100% (6) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 12:44:33 AM Wow. I don't think my pants would be clean after an incident like that haha.
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ArmedPete 1* Team Member Joined: Jan 2009  WI, USA Posts: 2230 Feedback: 100% (18) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 12:46:16 AM So glad you are okay. What a bad day at the range.
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TheMercenary Missed out on the Koolaid party Team Member Joined: Jul 2005  TN, USA Posts: 1161 Feedback: 100% (8) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 12:47:24 AM Tag Sorry to hear about your rifle, at least it was not an NFA lower
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LaRue_Tactical Member Industry Partner Joined: Mar 2006  TX, USA Posts: 16955 Feedback: 100% (168) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 12:54:24 AM And you never got a scratch ?
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Hizzie Member Joined: Sep 2008  TX, USA Posts: 514 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 12:57:36 AM Thank God you are OK. That could have been tragic.
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Fantomas When the Tide is out you can see who swims naked Team Member Joined: Oct 2009  MO, USA Posts: 7815 Feedback: 100% (42) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 1:09:30 AM glad you did not get hurt
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RTUtah Something clever! Team Member Joined: Dec 2006  NC, USA Posts: 3563 Feedback: 100% (44) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 1:10:09 AM Holy shit. Tag.
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LongTrang Reed Knight's bitch Team Member Joined: Jan 2010  WA, USA Posts: 433 Feedback: 100% (21) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 1:14:40 AM damn....your a lucky lad. That is devastating. Looks like that P-Mag absorbed quite a bit to. Glad your alright. Sorry about the rifle though.
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exedy Member Joined: Apr 2011  NV, USA Posts: 143 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 1:15:27 AM glad to here your safe. that is an epic kaboom.
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MateFrio Member Team Member Joined: Jun 2008  TX, USA Posts: 1311 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 1:18:31 AM How did you get away without a scratch on that one? Man, some destructive forces at work there.
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Garandboy Member Team Member Joined: Apr 2003  NY, USA Posts: 3468 Feedback: 100% (13) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 1:23:36 AM Glad you were not injured. Sorry about the rifle.
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blwallace5 Doin stuff with things!! Team Member Joined: Jun 2009  NV, USA Posts: 3279 Feedback: 100% (6) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 1:35:32 AM Oh my. You seem pretty calm and rational about the whole thing. I fear I would not be. Glad you are ok, and hope your rifle is up and running again soon.
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Posted: 7/26/2011 1:43:21 AM [Last Edit: 7/26/2011 7:19:04 AM by NVCapCop] Originally Posted By blwallace5: Oh my. You seem pretty calm and rational about the whole thing. I fear I would not be. Glad you are ok, and hope your rifle is up and running again soon. Thanks. I suffered no injuries except for a bit of hot gas escaping through the CH and some small shrapnel marks on my inner left arm. My buddy feels bad because he bought the ammo. Luckily I have other ARs as backups.

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58shootist Member Joined: Mar 2011  CA, USA Posts: 38 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 1:44:42 AM Like I told a friend of mine when he was INCONSOLABLE over a 1st generation Colt he had that blew the top of the cylinder and the top strap of the gun off, it's just a damn gun, you didn't loose your eyesight or get a scratch. The gun is easy to replace!
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EW1066 Member Joined: Aug 2010  TX, USA Posts: 5 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 1:49:08 AM You are one lucky man. Are those pieces of brass I see by the bolt lugs? EDUB
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OIF_Vet08-09 Fear is the foundation of most governments. Team Member Joined: Nov 2009  AR, USA Posts: 2004 Feedback: 100% (71) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 1:49:33 AM Holy shit that must have been some a hot fucking load!!! Glad you are ok, and tag for the outcome. This certainly reinforces why I stay away from reloaded ammo.
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chadwick76 What?.....Who?........A F---ing democrat?????????? Team Member Joined: Jan 2009  IN, USA Posts: 4311 Feedback: 100% (7) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 2:00:52 AM Originally Posted By Logan09: I don't think I've seen one were the lower was affected also(Possibly wrong) Also looks like the barrel extension cracked?(By the feed ramp) those surprised me also, glad your face is o.k.
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mikeb87 Member Joined: Jun 2009  KS, USA Posts: 19 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 2:13:25 AM Damn! Glad you're ok. I'm interested in how this turns out for you since I'm pretty sure I ordered some ammo from the same place
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west2746 Member Joined: Dec 2008  VA, USA Posts: 1570 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 7/26/2011 2:26:37 AM I know I have seen it before and read what causes it....but I just can not remember right now. What caused this?
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