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Posted: 7/3/2011 2:16:25 PM EDT

Make sure you trim it.

I don't even know why I ever put one in this Colt, it never needed it, it always fit together nice and tight.

I've been trying to figure out what would cause the few oddball jams I've had on this gun over the last 15 years.

Today, when I cleaned it, I finally figured it out (at least I think I have).

Posted: 7/3/2011 2:39:30 PM EDT

[#1]

I think it's a horrible idea to force the upper and lower receiver apart. I can't tell you how many accu wedges I've thrown in the trash!

Posted: 7/3/2011 2:56:33 PM EDT

[#2]

Why would you put one in a tight gun???

Posted: 7/3/2011 3:05:39 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
Why would you put one in a tight gun???

It was 15 years ago, now I'm wondering "what was I thinking?".

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Posted: 7/3/2011 3:53:43 PM EDT

[#4]

I never understood the need or want of an accuwedge.

Posted: 7/3/2011 4:16:23 PM EDT

[#5]

I've disposed of several from friends rifles that I worked on .... I've also pulled pieces of them out of FCG.

Posted: 7/3/2011 4:28:57 PM EDT

[#6]

I've never had one, and if I wanted to ensure a tight fit THAT bad, I'd tap the lower to run a screw against the tab on the upper. Like my MEGA billet lower has.

Posted: 7/3/2011 5:18:47 PM EDT

[#7]

They serve their purpose for some of us. To each their own, free county, if you use one & it makes you happy, so be it.

But yeah trimming it would be common sense I think....

Posted: 7/3/2011 6:53:00 PM EDT

[#8]

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They serve their purpose for some of us.

What is that purpose?

Posted: 7/3/2011 6:59:29 PM EDT

[#9]

If I needed a good fit that badly, and I have no idea whatsoever why I would, I'd call Les Bauer and order a "matched set" upper and lower.

Posted: 7/3/2011 6:59:57 PM EDT

[#10]

I was checking out a brand new Bushy and a brand new M&P today, and it shocked me how sloppy they both were. Must be this is supposed to fix that?

Funny thing is, both of my Plum Crazy builds were solid as a rock... Go figure.

Posted: 7/3/2011 7:00:58 PM EDT

[#11]

I just don't get the reasoning behind introducing a piece of rubber into a rifle, especially that close to operating parts.

Posted: 7/3/2011 7:01:20 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
If I needed a good fit that badly, and I have no idea whatsoever why I would, I'd call Les Bauer and order a "matched set" upper and lower.

if you want a fit that tight, the ar-15 platform isnt for you.

Posted: 7/3/2011 7:03:56 PM EDT

[#13]

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I was checking out a brand new Bushy and a brand new M&P today, and it shocked me how sloppy they both were. Must be this is supposed to fix that?

Funny thing is, both of my Plum Crazy builds were solid as a rock... Go figure.

Rock solid is not exactly a design feature of ARs. They were designed to be slightly sloppy. Plum crazy? well, lol

Posted: 7/3/2011 7:14:41 PM EDT

[#14]

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Funny thing is, both of my Plum Crazy builds were solid as a rock... Go figure.

Plum Crazy lowers are only as solid as charcoal briquettes.

Posted: 7/3/2011 7:20:29 PM EDT

[#15]

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Funny thing is, both of my Plum Crazy builds were solid as a rock... Go figure.

Plum Crazy lowers are only as solid as charcoal briquettes.

Friend of mine was trying to get me to buy one. I told him to let me run it in a class and if it survived, I'd give him $400 for it. He got really sheepish and backed down all of a sudden.

Posted: 7/3/2011 7:24:06 PM EDT

[#16]

I'm on my third with no issues other than the fact that it looks wonky being plastic. And the fit was tight. IDK what to say other than that.

Posted: 7/3/2011 7:25:24 PM EDT

[#17]

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I'm on my third with no issues other than the fact that it looks wonky being plastic. And the fit was tight. IDK what to say other than that.

Run it hard. Accidently pull the rear pin to clean it without supporting the upper. but not if you wanna keep it.

Posted: 7/3/2011 9:07:22 PM EDT

[#18]

Here's my .02

I know people have their reasons to say it isn't needed or not recommended but this is just why I justify having it there.

First off, I don't run my gun hard. I just like get on target and get rounds off, and considering most of what I use to get on target (stock and grip), it's better that the top end moves as closely to my adjustment as the bottom half of the gun. If anyone has any reason I shouldn't feel this way about shooting just lemme know

Don't get me wrong though. When I take a carbine class, that sucker aint in there.

Oh and if you're gonna use it, don't just throw it in there. make sure it's snug and doesn't even come close to inhibiting movement of the BCM.
It should be inspected and trusted just like any other piece of equipment installed in your rifle.

Posted: 7/3/2011 9:12:07 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Why would you put one in a tight gun???

It was 15 years ago, now I'm wondering "what was I thinking?".

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You were prolly thinking the same thing as everyone else that bought them when they came out "this is the most revolutionary piece of technology to come out for the ar15, and so inexpensive to boot"

My dad put them in all three of his ARs when they came out, he was big into bolt guns and "less wiggle equals more accurate"

He has since ditched them.

Posted: 7/4/2011 6:10:04 AM EDT

[#20]

I put those who run a Accu-wedge in there AR's into a "Special" category....

Posted: 7/4/2011 6:36:47 AM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
I was checking out a brand new Bushy and a brand new M&P today, and it shocked me how sloppy they both were. Must be this is supposed to fix that?

Funny thing is, both of my Plum Crazy builds were solid as a rock... Go figure.

That is funny, you built TWO plum crazy rifles!

Seriously, I use an oring on the front lug. My receivers fit pretty well as is, but it's such simple thing why not. I do like how they almost feel like one piece now. I tried an accuwedge once, they are crap.

Posted: 7/4/2011 6:51:47 AM EDT

[#22]

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I just don't get the reasoning behind introducing a piece of rubber into a rifle, especially that close to operating parts.

You don't get the reasoning behind introducing a piece of rubber into a rifle, especially that close to operating parts. Ask BCM they put an O'ring around the extractor spring.

Posted: 7/4/2011 7:11:04 AM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I just don't get the reasoning behind introducing a piece of rubber into a rifle, especially that close to operating parts.

You don't get the reasoning behind introducing a piece of rubber into a rifle, especially that close to operating parts. Ask BCM they put an O'ring around the extractor spring.

I have those on my rifles as well. I'd consider that an operating part. It's a whole different level than a piece of rubber that lies directly behind the trigger group and below the bolt carrier operating path that does nothing but push the upper and lower apart for essentially cosmetic reasons.

Posted: 7/4/2011 7:19:46 AM EDT

[#24]

I understood the concept of trying to take out the play but you're also trying to add misalignment now between the BCG and buffer tube. Never seemed like a great idea.

My rifles that I wanted to have tight fit have match billet upper lower. First couple times I had to tap them together just about.

My carbines are pretty tight but I don't care if they wiggle a little.

Posted: 7/4/2011 7:58:37 AM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I just don't get the reasoning behind introducing a piece of rubber into a rifle, especially that close to operating parts.

You don't get the reasoning behind introducing a piece of rubber into a rifle, especially that close to operating parts. Ask BCM they put an O'ring around the extractor spring.

I have those on my rifles as well. I'd consider that an operating part. It's a whole different level than a piece of rubber that lies directly behind the trigger group and below the bolt carrier operating path that does nothing but push the upper and lower apart for essentially cosmetic reasons.

Are you a politician, I understand, Otherwise you a just full of it. To state that it's bad to put rubber near an operating part but it is ok to use rubber on an operating part is a complete oxymoron

ETA: Cosmetically speaking. It would only make sense to close the gap.

Posted: 7/4/2011 8:31:23 AM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I just don't get the reasoning behind introducing a piece of rubber into a rifle, especially that close to operating parts.

You don't get the reasoning behind introducing a piece of rubber into a rifle, especially that close to operating parts. Ask BCM they put an O'ring around the extractor spring.

I have those on my rifles as well. I'd consider that an operating part. It's a whole different level than a piece of rubber that lies directly behind the trigger group and below the bolt carrier operating path that does nothing but push the upper and lower apart for essentially cosmetic reasons.

Are you a politician, I understand, Otherwise you a just full of it. To state that it's bad to put rubber near an operating part but it is ok to use rubber on an operating part is a complete oxymoron

ETA: Cosmetically speaking. It would only make sense to close the gap.

Ok, the Accu-Wedge provide only cosmetic benefits. To do this, it sits just below (or in the OP's case) IN the path of moving parts essential to the rifles actual function. If it breaks it can get caught in the FCG (attested to above) or interfere with the operating path (evidenced to by the OP)

The extractor O-rings aid in function. If it wears and breaks it sits in that gap. At my old job we shot a ton of rounds, rarely did they wear/break, and when they did they stayed where they were.

If you don't see a difference, I can't help you.

Posted: 7/4/2011 8:39:12 AM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:

Are you a politician, I understand, Otherwise you a just full of it. To state that it's bad to put rubber near an operating part but it is ok to use rubber on an operating part is a complete oxymoron

ETA: Cosmetically speaking. It would only make sense to close the gap.

One does absolutely nothing for function. It's only purpose is to appease the people who treat their guns like barbie dolls and can't stand that rattle when they take them out of the safe to show them to friends or take pictures to put on the Internet.

Posted: 7/4/2011 9:57:25 AM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Are you a politician, I understand, Otherwise you a just full of it. To state that it's bad to put rubber near an operating part but it is ok to use rubber on an operating part is a complete oxymoron

ETA: Cosmetically speaking. It would only make sense to close the gap.

One does absolutely nothing for function. It's only purpose is to appease the people who treat their guns like barbie dolls and can't stand that rattle when they take them out of the safe to show them to friends or take pictures to put on the Internet.

Hey, that's why I use the o-ring on the front lug of the upper.