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Link Posted: 8/27/2016 10:17:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Shooterman017:
There is something about this picture that hits me every time I see it. I recognize a few of the guys from other pictures and books, but dont know the context behind it. I would love to know more. It also makes me need an OG MOD 0 upper (or whole gun...) more than my wallet is okay with...
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Originally Posted By Shooterman017:



Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:

Anyone seen this before? Was searching for Recce pics and stumbled across this, tagged as ODA 585. What do I spy in the foreground?:



https://i.imgur.com/Jxhdnde.jpg




There is something about this picture that hits me every time I see it. I recognize a few of the guys from other pictures and books, but dont know the context behind it. I would love to know more. It also makes me need an OG MOD 0 upper (or whole gun...) more than my wallet is okay with...






Troops honor Trade Center casualties



 



Link Posted: 8/27/2016 10:33:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 78Staff:



Stopped by the shop today for some pistol range time, and I was able to mount up my 12th on the Mod1 and take really mediocre cell phone pics of it :).





First time I've mounted it, I was only able to get 2 1/2 turns, which kind threw me a bit.  It's a High Caliber Sales upper with Douglas Barrel, so figured I would get plenty of turns.  I don't have to worry about it for a few more months I suppose. Should I be looking at spacing out the brake a bit to get more turns?





Also running out of clever ways to express my displeasure for having to leave my cans in the shop safe for months and months...  Best I can come up with at the moment is "I went to the LGS and spent 2K and all I got was this lousy picture..."  




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I don't know if they've always been like this, but HCS uppers have consistently had a Douglas barrel that's measured up "short" for a while now. Not accuracy/performance wise...I love this thing, but it's been discussed in here from time to time. Mine is/was the same as yours, and it's also an HCS. I'm thinking that the small amount of turns may not even be out or spec, or a big deal, but I wanted a little more bite. I use an ADCO barrel spacer to increase distance between the break threads and collar shoulder - and get plenty of turns now. Can mounts up solid. Another option is to custom machine your collars shoulder further back, so you get the same effect of more turns on the threads.
 
Link Posted: 8/27/2016 10:47:02 PM EDT
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Troops honor Trade Center casualties



http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/attack/2002/01/01/burials-usat.htm

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Originally Posted By Shooterman017:


Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:

Anyone seen this before? Was searching for Recce pics and stumbled across this, tagged as ODA 585. What do I spy in the foreground?:



https://i.imgur.com/Jxhdnde.jpg




There is something about this picture that hits me every time I see it. I recognize a few of the guys from other pictures and books, but dont know the context behind it. I would love to know more. It also makes me need an OG MOD 0 upper (or whole gun...) more than my wallet is okay with...


Troops honor Trade Center casualties



http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/attack/2002/01/01/burials-usat.htm





 
Seems like a long time ago, somehow.
Link Posted: 8/28/2016 12:59:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CloneDiseased:
   
I don't know if they've always been like this, but HCS uppers have consistently had a Douglas barrel that's measured up "short" for a while now. Not accuracy/performance wise...I love this thing, but it's been discussed in here from time to time. Mine is/was the same as yours, and it's also an HCS. I'm thinking that the small amount of turns may not even be out or spec, or a big deal, but I wanted a little more bite. I use an ADCO barrel spacer to increase distance between the break threads and collar shoulder - and get plenty of turns now. Can mounts up solid. Another option is to custom machine your collars shoulder further back, so you get the same effect of more turns on the threads.  
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Originally Posted By 78Staff:
Stopped by the shop today for some pistol range time, and I was able to mount up my 12th on the Mod1 and take really mediocre cell phone pics of it :).

First time I've mounted it, I was only able to get 2 1/2 turns, which kind threw me a bit.  It's a High Caliber Sales upper with Douglas Barrel, so figured I would get plenty of turns.  I don't have to worry about it for a few more months I suppose. Should I be looking at spacing out the brake a bit to get more turns?

Also running out of clever ways to express my displeasure for having to leave my cans in the shop safe for months and months...  Best I can come up with at the moment is "I went to the LGS and spent 2K and all I got was this lousy picture..."  




http://i.imgur.com/thLQikZ.jpg


 
   
I don't know if they've always been like this, but HCS uppers have consistently had a Douglas barrel that's measured up "short" for a while now. Not accuracy/performance wise...I love this thing, but it's been discussed in here from time to time. Mine is/was the same as yours, and it's also an HCS. I'm thinking that the small amount of turns may not even be out or spec, or a big deal, but I wanted a little more bite. I use an ADCO barrel spacer to increase distance between the break threads and collar shoulder - and get plenty of turns now. Can mounts up solid. Another option is to custom machine your collars shoulder further back, so you get the same effect of more turns on the threads.  


My HCS Douglas is perfectly fine. Might be a factor of your collar. Are you using a long collar with a PRI FSB?
Link Posted: 8/28/2016 1:09:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 02Overlander:

 

I noticed the same with IMI, much hotter than BH or CBC.
Mod1/Magnetospeed


http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f160/HDHNTER/MWSnap279_zpsogabztxj.jpg

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Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
dont build one. you wont ever want to shoot the other ones again.

http://i68.tinypic.com/iwnb80.jpg



The Dope, and IMI RazorCore:
This stuff is COOKING. It's faster than the CBC which I was guesstimating 2775 to 2800 before, and the IMI impacts were generally high using my CBC's numbers. Wasn't seeming to trade accuracy, but then again I suck at groups...

Here's what I ended up with for real world dope with IMI and the Leupold:

IMI Razor Core 77gr 5.56 OTM
100: Zero'd ~1/2-3/4 MOA high
250: 2 MOA
500: 8 MOA
600 YD: 11 MOA
600M: 15 MOA
750: 20 MOA

Guys, this shit had to have been well north of 2800 FPS based on the temperature outside and impacts being higher than what Strelok gave me with 2775 and 2800 as MV values.


 

I noticed the same with IMI, much hotter than BH or CBC.
Mod1/Magnetospeed


http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f160/HDHNTER/MWSnap279_zpsogabztxj.jpg



Got any pics of the Magnetospeed on the MOD 1?  Just recently got a V3 and the only way I saw how they'd work on my MOD 1 and Holland is without the collars.
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 2:00:31 AM EDT
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This thread needs to be bumped and I just painted my Mod 1.

Before:


After:


Link Posted: 8/29/2016 1:13:45 PM EDT
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Well Brownells A1 lowers will be here soon, Mod 1 upper is finished, just need to tighten a few screws. Only thing I'm missing is a butt plate for the A1 Stock.

And because you guys suck I got a second A1 lower for a Mod-H build...
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 2:54:39 PM EDT
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Looks like a recce or Mk12 in the recent stories about Matt Chapman. My first guest was Mk12 with a CAR stock, but that looks like a KAC can to me.

NYTimes

Tribunist






But this pic w/out can looks like a reflex mount, so maybe it is a Mk12? What do y'all think?

Link Posted: 8/29/2016 3:00:27 PM EDT
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EDIT: Whoa, what a coincident. I was writing this post and doing other things...I didn't even see the above post. The rifle I mentioned below is very similar to that rifle above.

Are there any modernized version of the MK12's in the military today? If not, what happens to all of the older Mod 0 or Holland parts...like rails, handguards, sights, etc..? I'm going to assume they get demo'd. :(
The military would make a killing selling off parts. I was in the Marines when they were slowly phasing out all of the older cobble job MARSOC 1911's (the few I held/got a good look at were so beat up and the frame/slide clearance was hilarious). The Marines could have made a lot of money selling ex-MARSOC 1911 frames/slides since many of those dated back to WW2. My battalion gunner felt the same and asked around but that idea was shot down with a quickness. Makes me angry so much history is just cut to scrap.

The reason I asked about modernized MK12's is that I just saw a youtube video of some type of M16 variant that I couldn't figure out.
It has a NF 2.5-10x24, Larue LT104 mount, offset Aimpoint T1, Harris bipod, KAC dimple suppressor,  CAR stock, and what appears to be a DD handguard. I'll post the video I'll post the video below...it's taken from a helmet cam so and it's the rifle he's holding. Definitely looked like some type of DM style rifle, wasn't sure if this is some evolved MK12 setup. I just rarely see bipods and that optical combo on standard M4's.

Warning for naughty language.

Copy and paste...the video will start at the spot where you see the rifle.

https://youtu.be/gspATMWOqus?t=210
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 3:06:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By minion42:
Looks like a recce or Mk12 in the recent stories about Matt Chapman. My first guest was Mk12 with a CAR stock, but that looks like a KAC can to me.

NYTimes

Tribunist

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/08/26/world/medal1/medal1-jumbo.jpg

http://tribunist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/0828A6.jpg


But this pic w/out can looks like a reflex mount, so maybe it is a Mk12? What do y'all think?

http://tribunist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/0828A3-1.jpg
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I'm thinking a 14.5" M4 barrel (maybe a RO921HB---no way to tell without making some educated guesses that perhaps only Augee is authorized for) with rifle-length FF RAS and, as you mentioned, KAC QDSS-NT4 suppressor.
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 3:08:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By minion42:
Looks like a recce or Mk12 in the recent stories about Matt Chapman. My first guest was Mk12 with a CAR stock, but that looks like a KAC can to me.


But this pic w/out can looks like a reflex mount, so maybe it is a Mk12? What do y'all think?

http://tribunist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/0828A3-1.jpg
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Looks like one of those muzzle caps that keep out dirt and sand.
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 3:09:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cmcflex:


I'm thinking a 14.5" M4 barrel (maybe a RO921HB---no way to tell without making some educated guesses that perhaps only Augee is authorized for) with rifle-length FF RAS and, as you mentioned, KAC QDSS-NT4 suppressor.
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Originally Posted By cmcflex:
Originally Posted By minion42:
Looks like a recce or Mk12 in the recent stories about Matt Chapman. My first guest was Mk12 with a CAR stock, but that looks like a KAC can to me.

NYTimes

Tribunist

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/08/26/world/medal1/medal1-jumbo.jpg

http://tribunist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/0828A6.jpg


But this pic w/out can looks like a reflex mount, so maybe it is a Mk12? What do y'all think?

http://tribunist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/0828A3-1.jpg


I'm thinking a 14.5" M4 barrel (maybe a RO921HB---no way to tell without making some educated guesses that perhaps only Augee is authorized for) with rifle-length FF RAS and, as you mentioned, KAC QDSS-NT4 suppressor.


I was thinking there didn't seem to be enough meat left hanging out in front of the handguard as well, so "not Mk12" would be my vote.
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 3:11:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Regulatori:
ason I asked about modernized MK12's is that I just saw a youtube video of some type of M16 variant that I couldn't figure out.
It had a S&B short dot, Larue LT104 mount, offset Aimpoint T1, Harris bipod, KAC dimple suppressor,  CAR stock, and what appears to be a DD handguard. I'll post the video I'll post the video below...it's taken from a helmet cam so and it's the rifle he's holding. Definitely looked like some type of DM style rifle, wasn't sure if this is some evolved MK12 setup. I just rarely see bipods and that optical combo on standard M4's.

Warning for naughty language.

Copy and paste...the video will start at the spot where you see the rifle.

https://youtu.be/gspATMWOqus?t=210
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Yes that's one of the few "recce" pics/videos that floats around and comes up every so often. That's an NF 2.5-10x24.
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 3:11:57 PM EDT
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I was thinking there didn't seem to be enough meat left hanging out in front of the handguard as well, so "not Mk12" would be my vote.
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Originally Posted By cmcflex:
Originally Posted By minion42:
Looks like a recce or Mk12 in the recent stories about Matt Chapman. My first guest was Mk12 with a CAR stock, but that looks like a KAC can to me.

NYTimes

Tribunist

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/08/26/world/medal1/medal1-jumbo.jpg

http://tribunist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/0828A6.jpg


But this pic w/out can looks like a reflex mount, so maybe it is a Mk12? What do y'all think?

http://tribunist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/0828A3-1.jpg


I'm thinking a 14.5" M4 barrel (maybe a RO921HB---no way to tell without making some educated guesses that perhaps only Augee is authorized for) with rifle-length FF RAS and, as you mentioned, KAC QDSS-NT4 suppressor.


I was thinking there didn't seem to be enough meat left hanging out in front of the handguard as well, so "not Mk12" would be my vote.


Ya know I think you're right. It actually looks like an unpainted muzzle device.
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 3:21:28 PM EDT
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Yes that's one of the few "recce" pics/videos that floats around and comes up every so often. That's an NF 2.5-10x24.
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Originally Posted By minion42:
Originally Posted By Regulatori:
ason I asked about modernized MK12's is that I just saw a youtube video of some type of M16 variant that I couldn't figure out.
It had a S&B short dot, Larue LT104 mount, offset Aimpoint T1, Harris bipod, KAC dimple suppressor,  CAR stock, and what appears to be a DD handguard. I'll post the video I'll post the video below...it's taken from a helmet cam so and it's the rifle he's holding. Definitely looked like some type of DM style rifle, wasn't sure if this is some evolved MK12 setup. I just rarely see bipods and that optical combo on standard M4's.

Warning for naughty language.

Copy and paste...the video will start at the spot where you see the rifle.

https://youtu.be/gspATMWOqus?t=210



Yes that's one of the few "recce" pics/videos that floats around and comes up every so often. That's an NF 2.5-10x24.


DUH. I saw the NF caps and everything and just had a total brainfart when typing out the post.
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 3:36:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Regulatori:
EDIT: Whoa, what a coincident. I was writing this post and doing other things...I didn't even see the above post. The rifle I mentioned below is very similar to that rifle above.

Are there any modernized version of the MK12's in the military today? If not, what happens to all of the older Mod 0 or Holland parts...like rails, handguards, sights, etc..? I'm going to assume they get demo'd. :(
The military would make a killing selling off parts. I was in the Marines when they were slowly phasing out all of the older cobble job MARSOC 1911's (the few I held/got a good look at were so beat up and the frame/slide clearance was hilarious). The Marines could have made a lot of money selling ex-MARSOC 1911 frames/slides since many of those dated back to WW2. My battalion gunner felt the same and asked around but that idea was shot down with a quickness. Makes me angry so much history is just cut to scrap.

The reason I asked about modernized MK12's is that I just saw a youtube video of some type of M16 variant that I couldn't figure out.
It has a NF 2.5-10x24, Larue LT104 mount, offset Aimpoint T1, Harris bipod, KAC dimple suppressor,  CAR stock, and what appears to be a DD handguard. I'll post the video I'll post the video below...it's taken from a helmet cam so and it's the rifle he's holding. Definitely looked like some type of DM style rifle, wasn't sure if this is some evolved MK12 setup. I just rarely see bipods and that optical combo on standard M4's.

Warning for naughty language.

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Too many liabilities to sell government property, especially military.
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 3:39:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By minion42:
Looks like a recce or Mk12 in the recent stories about Matt Chapman. My first guest was Mk12 with a CAR stock, but that looks like a KAC can to me.

NYTimes

Tribunist

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/08/26/world/medal1/medal1-jumbo.jpg

http://tribunist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/0828A6.jpg


But this pic w/out can looks like a reflex mount, so maybe it is a Mk12? What do y'all think?

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Looks like an M4 with a larue rail and you can't see the fsb due to the laser. That's my guess anyway. Nothing mk12 about it. Augee will know.
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 3:56:40 PM EDT
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looks to be a chopped fsp ?
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 5:05:10 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/29/2016 7:23:27 PM EDT
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A package arrived today and I am very close to being done with my Mk12 Mod 1.





So, now I am at this...



The Form 4 for my AEM5 should be coming back any day (early February submission).

Just the ARMS 22 NLS rings to track down, and that should be it!
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 8:50:32 PM EDT
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Looks like one of those muzzle caps that keep out dirt and sand.

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Originally Posted By usnguns:



Originally Posted By minion42:

Looks like a recce or Mk12 in the recent stories about Matt Chapman. My first guest was Mk12 with a CAR stock, but that looks like a KAC can to me.





But this pic w/out can looks like a reflex mount, so maybe it is a Mk12? What do y'all think?



http://tribunist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/0828A3-1.jpg




Looks like one of those muzzle caps that keep out dirt and sand.

I would say you are correct
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 9:41:19 PM EDT
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Looks like Brownells took their A1 lowers off their site. Was about to pick up a couple...
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 9:43:27 PM EDT
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So who is that gentleman who can fill in the gap on A.R.M.S #38 spr peq 2-3 to fit on gen1 pri handguard? I just got a wheeled fsb and gonna slowly make my way from mod 0 to a SPR. picture for attention!!
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Link Posted: 8/29/2016 10:26:43 PM EDT
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A package arrived today and I am very close to being done with my Mk12 Mod 1.
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k42/Ostrogoth_photos/IMG_4591_zpsadeueflb.jpg
So, now I am at this...
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k42/Ostrogoth_photos/FullSizeRender-2_zps6kkscewp.jpg
The Form 4 for my AEM5 should be coming back any day (early February submission).
Just the ARMS 22 NLS rings to track down, and that should be it!
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Same here, just looking for some no humps to complete the deal.  Runing an LT104 in the meantime.  I know there are at least 3 of us actively looking for no humps :), and probably many more not talking about it lol.








 
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 10:30:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 78Staff:

  Same here, just looking for some no humps to complete the deal.  Runing an LT104 in the meantime.  I know there are at least 3 of us actively looking for no humps :), and probably many more not talking about it lol.


http://i.imgur.com/thLQikZh.jpg  
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Originally Posted By 78Staff:
Originally Posted By Doc_Lane:
A package arrived today and I am very close to being done with my Mk12 Mod 1.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k42/Ostrogoth_photos/IMG_4591_zpsadeueflb.jpg



So, now I am at this...

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k42/Ostrogoth_photos/FullSizeRender-2_zps6kkscewp.jpg

The Form 4 for my AEM5 should be coming back any day (early February submission).

Just the ARMS 22 NLS rings to track down, and that should be it!

  Same here, just looking for some no humps to complete the deal.  Runing an LT104 in the meantime.  I know there are at least 3 of us actively looking for no humps :), and probably many more not talking about it lol.


http://i.imgur.com/thLQikZh.jpg  


Just got your old rings btw! I'm content slumin it with the humps. Its an upgrade from an ad recon mount!
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 10:31:44 PM EDT
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Looks like Brownells took their A1 lowers off their site. Was about to pick up a couple...
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That's odd - usually they would just indicate item out of stock, not remove the page entirely.  Maybe they are not able to get any more from Nodak.







Here was the item number - 080001304


 



Well, the pic still exists, anyway.






Link Posted: 8/29/2016 10:47:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 78Staff:

  That's odd - usually they would just indicate item out of stock, not remove the page entirely.  Maybe they are not able to get any more from Nodak.


Here was the item number - 080001304
 

Well, the pic still exists, anyway.


http://www.brownells.com/userdocs/skus/p_080001304_2.jpg

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Originally Posted By 78Staff:
Originally Posted By cbfurg:
Looks like Brownells took their A1 lowers off their site. Was about to pick up a couple...

  That's odd - usually they would just indicate item out of stock, not remove the page entirely.  Maybe they are not able to get any more from Nodak.


Here was the item number - 080001304
 

Well, the pic still exists, anyway.


http://www.brownells.com/userdocs/skus/p_080001304_2.jpg


Thats what I thought was weird. I had them in my cart 2 days ago and went back to find that.
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 10:55:18 PM EDT
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Thats what I thought was weird. I had them in my cart 2 days ago and went back to find that.

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Originally Posted By 78Staff:


Originally Posted By cbfurg:

Looks like Brownells took their A1 lowers off their site. Was about to pick up a couple...


  That's odd - usually they would just indicate item out of stock, not remove the page entirely.  Maybe they are not able to get any more from Nodak.





Here was the item number - 080001304

 



Well, the pic still exists, anyway.





http://www.brownells.com/userdocs/skus/p_080001304_2.jpg





Thats what I thought was weird. I had them in my cart 2 days ago and went back to find that.





 
I asked in the Industry Forum, let's see what they say...
Link Posted: 8/29/2016 11:38:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ShaneWang:
So who is that gentleman who can fill in the gap on A.R.M.S #38 spr peq 2-3 to fit on gen1 pri handguard? I just got a wheeled fsb and gonna slowly make my way from mod 0 to a SPR. picture for attention!!
http://<a href=http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu229/falconzllx/DSC_0862_zpslbr82bge.jpg</a>" />
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Chenault did one for me. It looks really good. Not the real deal I know and guys here know but personally I've never even seen one of the older swan sleeves for sale anywhere so I'm pretty sure obtaining one isn't going to happen. If I had seen one if own it. Period.
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 1:05:22 AM EDT
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The block II is becoming a favorite...









       
















 
 
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 6:41:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:

Chenault did one for me. It looks really good. Not the real deal I know and guys here know but personally I've never even seen one of the older swan sleeves for sale anywhere so I'm pretty sure obtaining one isn't going to happen. If I had seen one if own it. Period.
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Originally Posted By ShaneWang:
So who is that gentleman who can fill in the gap on A.R.M.S #38 spr peq 2-3 to fit on gen1 pri handguard? I just got a wheeled fsb and gonna slowly make my way from mod 0 to a SPR. picture for attention!!
http://<a href=http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu229/falconzllx/DSC_0862_zpslbr82bge.jpg</a>" />

Chenault did one for me. It looks really good. Not the real deal I know and guys here know but personally I've never even seen one of the older swan sleeves for sale anywhere so I'm pretty sure obtaining one isn't going to happen. If I had seen one if own it. Period.

any pictures? and what did he use to fill in the gap, is that tough enough not to come off?
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 7:17:53 AM EDT
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I need to get a mk12 mod 0 out of my system; it's been killing me for a long time.  Is buying a complete upper from PRI good to go?  I'm no clone purest, I just want the look  I was going to swap up my recce and do a mod-h, but I don't think I'll be happy until I go balls deep on a mk12.

If the PRI uppers are g2g, which one?  The retro or the new?
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 7:50:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel:
I need to get a mk12 mod 0 out of my system; it's been killing me for a long time.  Is buying a complete upper from PRI good to go?  I'm no clone purest, I just want the look  I was going to swap up my recce and do a mod-h, but I don't think I'll be happy until I go balls deep on a mk12.

If the PRI uppers are g2g, which one?  The retro or the new?
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PRI uppers are good to go if you aren't concerned with roll marks and such, you will need to swap out the rear sight though. Tony and Lexa are top notch people, they built my Gen 2 using a PEQ rail instead of the straight picatinny rail and also used a receiver without any PRI etching. Now if the ATF would release my AEM5 as quick as PRI built the upper I'd be happy as a clam.

Link Posted: 8/30/2016 9:26:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ShaneWang:

any pictures? and what did he use to fill in the gap, is that tough enough not to come off?
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Originally Posted By ShaneWang:
Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Originally Posted By ShaneWang:
So who is that gentleman who can fill in the gap on A.R.M.S #38 spr peq 2-3 to fit on gen1 pri handguard? I just got a wheeled fsb and gonna slowly make my way from mod 0 to a SPR. picture for attention!!
http://<a href=http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu229/falconzllx/DSC_0862_zpslbr82bge.jpg</a>" />

Chenault did one for me. It looks really good. Not the real deal I know and guys here know but personally I've never even seen one of the older swan sleeves for sale anywhere so I'm pretty sure obtaining one isn't going to happen. If I had seen one if own it. Period.

any pictures? and what did he use to fill in the gap, is that tough enough not to come off?

It looks pretty tough. I'll post pics when I get home. I'm not sure what he used. He told me but I don't remember.
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 9:36:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:

It looks pretty tough. I'll post pics when I get home. I'm not sure what he used. He told me but I don't remember.
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Originally Posted By ShaneWang:
Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Originally Posted By ShaneWang:
So who is that gentleman who can fill in the gap on A.R.M.S #38 spr peq 2-3 to fit on gen1 pri handguard? I just got a wheeled fsb and gonna slowly make my way from mod 0 to a SPR. picture for attention!!
http://<a href=http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu229/falconzllx/DSC_0862_zpslbr82bge.jpg</a>" />

Chenault did one for me. It looks really good. Not the real deal I know and guys here know but personally I've never even seen one of the older swan sleeves for sale anywhere so I'm pretty sure obtaining one isn't going to happen. If I had seen one if own it. Period.

any pictures? and what did he use to fill in the gap, is that tough enough not to come off?

It looks pretty tough. I'll post pics when I get home. I'm not sure what he used. He told me but I don't remember.


I use Devcon epoxy which is pretty damn tough.  Same stuff people use to bed their rifles.

I don't charge just ship it to me.
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 11:49:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:

Chenault did one for me. It looks really good. Not the real deal I know and guys here know but personally I've never even seen one of the older swan sleeves for sale anywhere so I'm pretty sure obtaining one isn't going to happen. If I had seen one if own it. Period.
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Originally Posted By ShaneWang:
So who is that gentleman who can fill in the gap on A.R.M.S #38 spr peq 2-3 to fit on gen1 pri handguard? I just got a wheeled fsb and gonna slowly make my way from mod 0 to a SPR. picture for attention!!
http://<a href=http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu229/falconzllx/DSC_0862_zpslbr82bge.jpg</a>" />

Chenault did one for me. It looks really good. Not the real deal I know and guys here know but personally I've never even seen one of the older swan sleeves for sale anywhere so I'm pretty sure obtaining one isn't going to happen. If I had seen one if own it. Period.

Well that's the idea behind "cloning" Imo, none of these are real deal mk12's...it's to make your ar15 look as close as your significant other will let you get to a real one.
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 11:53:01 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/30/2016 12:04:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Davey_Sickboy:

Well that's the idea behind "cloning" Imo, none of these are real deal mk12's...it's to make your ar15 look as close as your significant other will let you get to a real one.
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Originally Posted By Davey_Sickboy:
Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Originally Posted By ShaneWang:
So who is that gentleman who can fill in the gap on A.R.M.S #38 spr peq 2-3 to fit on gen1 pri handguard? I just got a wheeled fsb and gonna slowly make my way from mod 0 to a SPR. picture for attention!!
http://<a href=http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu229/falconzllx/DSC_0862_zpslbr82bge.jpg</a>" />

Chenault did one for me. It looks really good. Not the real deal I know and guys here know but personally I've never even seen one of the older swan sleeves for sale anywhere so I'm pretty sure obtaining one isn't going to happen. If I had seen one if own it. Period.

Well that's the idea behind "cloning" Imo, none of these are real deal mk12's...it's to make your ar15 look as close as your significant other will let you get to a real one.

Oh I understand. My point was that's really the only option at this point. I would love to have and would probably pay a rediculous amount to have that part but I have never even had the opportunity. On the other hand I kind of enjoy the custom built parts like the braceman lowers, Chenault's sleeve mod, haveblue's nls ring mod. It gives the gun a uniqueness.
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 3:49:31 PM EDT
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Does anyone know where I can buy a Leupold windage turret dial for    2.5-8x32 M2 scope

windage turret dial need is marked            MK12 Mod1 5.56 77 grain       for     2.5-8x32 M2 scope                 I have an elevation turret for the MK12 but not a windage
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 3:59:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tacticalcoyote:


Does anyone know where I can buy a Leupold windage turret dial for    2.5-8x32 M2 scope



windage turret dial need is marked            MK12 Mod1 5.56 77 grain       for     2.5-8x32 M2 scope                 I have an elevation turret for the MK12 but not a windage
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Did you call Leupold yet?



If they won't, maybe Kenton can help out.



 
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 4:04:59 PM EDT
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NO  I have not called Leupold yet

just though I would check here first and might get lucky and someone would have an extra 1 they wanted to get rid of
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 4:28:09 PM EDT
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NO  I have not called Leupold yet



just though I would check here first and might get lucky and someone would have an extra 1 they wanted to get rid of
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I have an assortment of elevation turrets, but no-go on the windage.



Are the ts30a2's marked "mk12" or "77gr"? I don't have one to compare to.



 
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 4:45:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
I have an assortment of elevation turrets, but no-go on the windage.

Are the ts30a2's marked "mk12" or "77gr"? I don't have one to compare to.
 
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Originally Posted By tacticalcoyote:

NO  I have not called Leupold yet

just though I would check here first and might get lucky and someone would have an extra 1 they wanted to get rid of
I have an assortment of elevation turrets, but no-go on the windage.

Are the ts30a2's marked "mk12" or "77gr"? I don't have one to compare to.
 


Both. They're marked:

"Mk 12 Mod 1 5.56mm 77 gr"
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 5:47:01 PM EDT
[#44]
I was going to post a pic of the mk12 knobs but photobucket is just ate up with pop ups and crap. Pretty much useless. What image hosting site do you guys use now?
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 6:00:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ChrisWMT:


PRI uppers are good to go if you aren't concerned with roll marks and such, you will need to swap out the rear sight though. Tony and Lexa are top notch people, they built my Gen 2 using a PEQ rail instead of the straight picatinny rail and also used a receiver without any PRI etching. Now if the ATF would release my AEM5 as quick as PRI built the upper I'd be happy as a clam.

https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8675/28445043396_33228a84a0_h.jpg
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Originally Posted By ChrisWMT:
Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel:
I need to get a mk12 mod 0 out of my system; it's been killing me for a long time.  Is buying a complete upper from PRI good to go?  I'm no clone purest, I just want the look  I was going to swap up my recce and do a mod-h, but I don't think I'll be happy until I go balls deep on a mk12.

If the PRI uppers are g2g, which one?  The retro or the new?


PRI uppers are good to go if you aren't concerned with roll marks and such, you will need to swap out the rear sight though. Tony and Lexa are top notch people, they built my Gen 2 using a PEQ rail instead of the straight picatinny rail and also used a receiver without any PRI etching. Now if the ATF would release my AEM5 as quick as PRI built the upper I'd be happy as a clam.

https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8675/28445043396_33228a84a0_h.jpg


I didn't know an upper w/o their markings was possible. Good to know. Thanks
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 7:37:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ShaneWang] [#46]
Waiting for Friday to come so I can touch myself to this baby!! Thank you so much KOBK  for letting me have this gorgeous piece of art and all the other parts you threw in. Now, if anyone around here hiding a Gen 1/2 tube please let me have it, I'm gonna rebuild my mod 0 to an early SPR. Planning on letting Chenault plug the cutout on the arms rail and rebuild on a colt upper. The worst case scenario I will have to use a new retro tube since gen1/2 tubes are impossible to find.
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Originally Posted By tacticalcoyote:
Does anyone know where I can buy a Leupold windage turret dial for    2.5-8x32 M2 scope

windage turret dial need is marked            MK12 Mod1 5.56 77 grain       for     2.5-8x32 M2 scope                 I have an elevation turret for the MK12 but not a windage
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I've never seen a windage knob that's mark as such. My ts30 a2 (which came today!) Just says 1 click = 1/2 min.

Eta.



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Originally Posted By KavonTN:



I've never seen a windage knob that's mark as such. My ts30 a2 (which came today!) Just says 1 click = 1/2 min.



Eta.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x109/KavonT/Mobile%20Uploads/20160830_200709.jpg



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That's what I was thinking.



 
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 10:27:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
That's what I was thinking.
 
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By KavonTN:

I've never seen a windage knob that's mark as such. My ts30 a2 (which came today!) Just says 1 click = 1/2 min.

Eta.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x109/KavonT/Mobile%20Uploads/20160830_200709.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x109/KavonT/Mobile%20Uploads/20160830_200642.jpg
That's what I was thinking.
 

I just bought the mk12 mod 1 knob from leupold about a month ago. I asked that exact question. There is no mk12 marked windage knob. I got the elevation knob for 36.00. We need someone to make a batch of ones marked mk12 mod 0. I'd be in on that for a few. I don't have skills like that though. I've been a mechanic my whole life. My hands can't hold anything still enough to do that kind of painting.
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:





I just bought the mk12 mod 1 knob from leupold about a month ago. I asked that exact question. There is no mk12 marked windage knob. I got the elevation knob for 36.00. We need someone to make a batch of ones marked mk12 mod 0. I'd be in on that for a few. I don't have skills like that though. I've been a mechanic my whole life. My hands can't hold anything still enough to do that kind of painting.
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:


Originally Posted By KavonTN:



I've never seen a windage knob that's mark as such. My ts30 a2 (which came today!) Just says 1 click = 1/2 min.



Eta.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x109/KavonT/Mobile%20Uploads/20160830_200709.jpg



http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x109/KavonT/Mobile%20Uploads/20160830_200642.jpg

That's what I was thinking.

 


I just bought the mk12 mod 1 knob from leupold about a month ago. I asked that exact question. There is no mk12 marked windage knob. I got the elevation knob for 36.00. We need someone to make a batch of ones marked mk12 mod 0. I'd be in on that for a few. I don't have skills like that though. I've been a mechanic my whole life. My hands can't hold anything still enough to do that kind of painting.
That's what lasers are for.



 
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