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Posted: 8/13/2017 11:14:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vanquishings:
@blcouch @Engel12626 Thanks to both of you. Guess I was googling the wrong thing! Looks like my idea will work after all.... I think.... LOL Mine turned out great and I'm happy I did it. Probably going to have the same thing done to a LT 20" I have laying around for Mod 1-ish rifle. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 8/13/2017 11:23:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/13/2017 1:35:21 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 78Staff:
How do you like the MTM carrier/tray setup... I noticed one of those in the calalog and looked like a good idea, as long as it can support the ammo weight OK? |
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Posted: 8/13/2017 3:30:23 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sommere54:
I had ADCO chop/profile a LT Stealth barrel for the Mod H. They will have to turn you a custom collar if you go that route, but it's no big deal. Mine turned out great and I'm happy I did it. Probably going to have the same thing done to a LT 20" I have laying around for Mod 1-ish rifle. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 8/13/2017 3:58:10 PM EDT
[#5]
Which Docter Red Dot and Mount for Mod1?
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Posted: 8/13/2017 11:26:37 PM EDT
[#6]
Does anyone remember the long collars Badger made, what was the size of the set screw? Mine disappeared loooonng ago and there's a chance my H will be getting the AEM5 on it in the future.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 8/14/2017 3:38:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HaveBlue83]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Does anyone remember the long collars Badger made, what was the size of the set screw? Mine disappeared loooonng ago and there's a chance my H will be getting the AEM5 on it in the future. 2mm and 5/64 fit in there if its any help. might be easier to call them cause its a shallow fit one. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 8:48:36 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Does anyone remember the long collars Badger made, what was the size of the set screw? Mine disappeared loooonng ago and there's a chance my H will be getting the AEM5 on it in the future. |
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BC, CAN
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Posted: 8/14/2017 11:37:15 AM EDT
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I got my fake can:
After I took these pictures, I tried moving the collar further down the barrel towards the gas block and managed to conceal about another inch of the barrel in the fake can so the overall length looks shorter. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 8/14/2017 1:28:16 PM EDT
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CO, USA
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Posted: 8/14/2017 2:45:28 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 78Staff:
Also, more info here specifically on the Leupold's... Leupold models for MK12 |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 8/14/2017 2:51:28 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
wow where did you get the 80% M16 lower? |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 5:07:49 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner63a:
So TMR is legit as issue glass? I like it because it leaves FOV less cluttered. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner63a:
Originally Posted By 78Staff:
Also, more info here specifically on the Leupold's... Leupold models for MK12 |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 5:52:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner63a:
It would be Da Schnizz if you had Braceman engrave an A2 lower with the same serial# as the deployment rifle you used the Mod1 upper on. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner63a:
Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
wow where did you get the 80% M16 lower? 
Just spent $400 getting my sons Go kart operational, man that thing is fast
Nice to have a new clutch, brakes, shocks and tires that don't go flat overnight
Gonna do teach him how to shoot while I am driving at my range
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Posted: 8/15/2017 5:11:05 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Nice I switched out my uni mount for some Arms rings, did it for looks only. Uni mount is a great mount, you will not be dissapointed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Originally Posted By Engel12626:
http://i.imgur.com/5neD2QI.jpg Finally found a good deal on a 99051, and Larue got replaced with a Unimount I switched out my uni mount for some Arms rings, did it for looks only. Uni mount is a great mount, you will not be dissapointed. |
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Posted: 8/15/2017 7:13:04 PM EDT
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Had some fun today.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/15/2017 11:48:42 PM EDT
[#18]
How long and what temp are you guys heating your gas blocks up to get them on? Also, is it cool to have the gas tube installed when you do?
Asking for a friend... 
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Posted: 8/16/2017 7:16:10 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cbfurg:
How long and what temp are you guys heating your gas blocks up to get them on? Also, is it cool to have the gas tube installed when you do? Asking for a friend... 
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Posted: 8/16/2017 11:11:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HARMS4X]
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cbfurg:
How long and what temp are you guys heating your gas blocks up to get them on? Also, is it cool to have the gas tube installed when you do? Asking for a friend... All of my badgers are spot on @ .750 now my barrels have been +/- .002 at times. That can be do to several things. If you Coates the barrel with Gun Coat or Duracoat it may be over the slip fit. Cerakote normally will add .0006 to the diameter. If you are doing your own coating use a caliber and measure the badger 1.000 buy some blue paint tape and mask the GB journal off. The. Coated it.  Attached File Attached File |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2017 11:21:08 AM EDT
[#21]
Alright gents, had a rough range day with the Mk12 yesterday and I'm curious if anyone else has ever had similar issues. First time using an optic other than a 3x magnifier. This is 20 rounds of IMI 77gr (all I brought) just to familiarize myself, and since I forgot to bring plain old 55gr to the range.
This was at a local PD range at what I think was 25yds; distance wasn't marked and I gave up on the 100yd target after this malfunction. I switched to Federal match 77gr. .223 next magazine and right away the bolt got stuck and would not go into battery. Tried to mortar it, but it was damaging the range table and the ground was too muddy to be effective. Finally got the bolt pulled back after hitting it with lots of clp and wiggling the bcg back and forth. The round looked fine, chamber looked fine,bolt and carrier looked fine, barrel wasn't overly fouled, everything was sufficiently lubed at this point, etc. Switched to BH 77gr., my father got 3 shots off then the same thing happened. This time I had to use a screw driver in the hollow of the bcg and mallet to get the bcg out. Again, nothing seems wrong visually, and I've fired all of these brand before with no issues. It was incredibly humid out. Any thoughts on what could be causing this? It's just a regular BCM bolt carrier group. 
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Posted: 8/16/2017 1:57:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By daojag:
Alright gents, had a rough range day with the Mk12 yesterday and I'm curious if anyone else has ever had similar issues. First time using an optic other than a 3x magnifier. This is 20 rounds of IMI 77gr (all I brought) just to familiarize myself, and since I forgot to bring plain old 55gr to the range. http://i.imgur.com/pWfl8NC.jpg This was at a local PD range at what I think was 25yds; distance wasn't marked and I gave up on the 100yd target after this malfunction. I switched to Federal match 77gr. .223 next magazine and right away the bolt got stuck and would not go into battery. Tried to mortar it, but it was damaging the range table and the ground was too muddy to be effective. Finally got the bolt pulled back after hitting it with lots of clp and wiggling the bcg back and forth. The round looked fine, chamber looked fine,bolt and carrier looked fine, barrel wasn't overly fouled, everything was sufficiently lubed at this point, etc. Switched to BH 77gr., my father got 3 shots off then the same thing happened. This time I had to use a screw driver in the hollow of the bcg and mallet to get the bcg out. Again, nothing seems wrong visually, and I've fired all of these brand before with no issues. It was incredibly humid out. Any thoughts on what could be causing this? It's just a regular BCM bolt carrier group. http://i.imgur.com/7h8CzYV.jpg |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2017 2:08:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: daojag]
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Douglas SPR/Mk12 barrel with CLE Match chamber.
ETA: I've used everything from cheap xm193 to BH unicorn rounds and never had an issue then I take it to show off to family and I only make it 23 rounds before having to break out the tools. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2017 3:33:51 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HARMS4X:
I would use a set of telescoping gauges and a micrometer or a internal micrometer and see what those journal sizes are. All of my badgers are spot on @ .750 now my barrels have been +/- .002 at times. That can be do to several things. If you Coates the barrel with Gun Coat or Duracoat it may be over the slip fit. Cerakote normally will add .0006 to the diameter. If you are doing your own coating use a caliber and measure the badger 1.000 buy some blue paint tape and mask the GB journal off. The. Coated it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187307/IMG_2673-281808.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187307/IMG_2674-281810.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HARMS4X:
Originally Posted By cbfurg:
How long and what temp are you guys heating your gas blocks up to get them on? Also, is it cool to have the gas tube installed when you do? Asking for a friend... All of my badgers are spot on @ .750 now my barrels have been +/- .002 at times. That can be do to several things. If you Coates the barrel with Gun Coat or Duracoat it may be over the slip fit. Cerakote normally will add .0006 to the diameter. If you are doing your own coating use a caliber and measure the badger 1.000 buy some blue paint tape and mask the GB journal off. The. Coated it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187307/IMG_2673-281808.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187307/IMG_2674-281810.JPG |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2017 3:39:57 PM EDT
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gentlemen, I have a question about the Black Hills 77 gr ammo. Has anyone used the Blue box reman .223 and compared it to the factory new 5.56 stuff in their MK12? Curious if the factory new is really worth 12 more dollars a box.
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Posted: 8/16/2017 3:53:56 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Super_Trouper:
gentlemen, I have a question about the Black Hills 77 gr ammo. Has anyone used the Blue box reman .223 and compared it to the factory new 5.56 stuff in their MK12? Curious if the factory new is really worth 12 more dollars a box. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2017 3:58:42 PM EDT
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Looking to run out to 600, possibly more when I'm able. Have you done any group comparisons between the two?
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MI, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:26:15 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cbfurg:
Bought a High Caliber Sales barrel. I'll take some measurements tonight but I went in knowing guys were having to heat up blocks to get them on. Really wanting to know what temp, how long, and is it alright to have the gas tube in when I do. The first attempt, I didn't align it fast enough and I had to knock it off and redo. It cools quick, I had the heat gun plugged in at the house and the action and barrel in a vise in the garage. I was a lot quicker the second time around, and I have some piece of mind knowing that even if the screws are loose it's not going to move easy on it own. With the tight fit, double dimples and proper torque, I feel comfortable enough to not use threadlocker or worry about gas block pinning. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 6:27:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Super_Trouper:
Looking to run out to 600, possibly more when I'm able. Have you done any group comparisons between the two? |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2017 6:38:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By plinker8:
I would probably run the factory stuff. Im not all that great of a shooter, at 100 they seem to be nearly identical. I would put my shooting errors over an edge to factory vs reman at that distance. I have not shot past 100 on paper. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2017 6:52:05 PM EDT
[#31]
Cool. Looks like I need to pick up a heat gun.
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Posted: 8/16/2017 7:14:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: blcouch]
[#32]
Last piece for my .22 clone to clone my 5.56 clone
This is the 7.62 version of the ARMS rail. It's easier to find than the 5.56 version. $105 or so from Mounting Solutions through Walmart.com! Last pic shows how you can cut/file off an inch and a half or so to make it work with the shorter 5.56 upper receivers.  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 8/17/2017 1:42:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 78Staff]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Super_Trouper:
Cool thanks, I'll probably run some reman to see how it does, might get a case of it to burn and then get some factory new to set back for rainy day. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/17/2017 8:53:39 AM EDT
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In case anybody is searching for an authentic A1 stock, there's a guy on gunbroker selling military M16A1 take off shells for 39 bucks plus shipping. Some are in very good shape and have rack numbers (which I kind of like). Just search "M16A1 stock".
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PA, USA
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Posted: 8/18/2017 12:34:01 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blcouch:
Last piece for my .22 clone to clone my 5.56 clone
This is the 7.62 version of the ARMS rail. It's easier to find than the 5.56 version. $105 or so from Mounting Solutions through Walmart.com! Last pic shows how you can cut/file off an inch and a half or so to make it work with the shorter 5.56 upper receivers. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/65572/IMG_3400-282132.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/65572/IMG_3401-282133.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/65572/IMG_3402-282135.JPG |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/18/2017 12:55:55 AM EDT
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What scope reticle was used on the mk12 mod1? Was it a mil dot or the tmr?
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Posted: 8/18/2017 1:09:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TinyCrumb]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sjmart20:
What scope reticle was used on the mk12 mod1? Was it a mil dot or the tmr? |
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USA
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Posted: 8/18/2017 3:53:47 AM EDT
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IN, USA
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Posted: 8/18/2017 12:41:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mvician]
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/18/2017 12:47:14 PM EDT
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Next you need to build a mount on top that buggy and start chasing the piggies!
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
That,s next, I still have that serial # and all my SI serial numbers from that deployment
Just spent $400 getting my sons Go kart operational, man that thing is fast
Nice to have a new clutch, brakes, shocks and tires that don't go flat overnight
Gonna do teach him how to shoot while I am driving at my range
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/20856/IMG-1519-269872.jpg |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 1:13:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By reswob:
@krg_ops recent MK12 Monday posts. This rifle looks familiar! https://i.imgur.com/yVmamY0.jpg https://i.imgur.com/K2k9P4l.jpg https://i.imgur.com/olfPyX2.jpg |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 8/18/2017 2:16:00 PM EDT
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I searched but could not find an answer. The ERGO grip on the Mod 1, was it the ambi rigid or some other model. Thanks!
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IN, USA
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Posted: 8/18/2017 3:15:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rbgonoles:
I searched but could not find an answer. The ERGO grip on the Mod 1, was it the ambi rigid or some other model. Thanks! ORIGINAL ERGO GRIP RIGHT HANDED – SUREGRIP™ http://ergogrips.net/shop/original-ergo-grip-suregrip-right-handed-black/ |
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USA
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Posted: 8/18/2017 10:01:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blcouch:
The poster: where could I get one? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blcouch:
The poster: where could I get one? krg_ops MK12 Monday! This poster used to hang in the team room - I always thought it was funny that almost all of the pics are mod 0s. |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 10:15:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhatever window there was for that closed back in 1994 for me
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/18/2017 11:27:15 PM EDT
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My not clone correct MK12 MOD1. Took it shooting last weekend and zeroed it. Ran about 5 different 75 BTHP/77SMK loads through it.
-Brownells A1 profiled lower, a mix of ALG and Colt parts -Geissele SD-C -BCM A5 Receiver Extension, Rifle Spring, A5-H1 Buffer, Magpul ACS-L with a Battleline SAPR Gen 2 on the back -NF 3-10x42 SHV MOAR (Non-Illum), Stolen ADM Recon from my 11.5" Mini Recce -BCM4 Upper with a White Oak SPR barrel stuck in it, BCM BCG inside -Salty Docter MRDS in a Predator Tactical Offset Probably going to get a NF Unimount, and then rattle canned like the rest of the gun. If I can find another Vero Beach marked rail panel, I'll spray them and put them on the gun too. Also switch out to a teardrop FA plunger. Shoutout to the Gun Gallery crew for the hookup on the NF, and Neil for talking glass and letting me check out some of the awesome clones in there on The Wall. Going to see you guys soon after we get moved into the new facility, and can manage a weekend off and some spare change. Hopefully in time for an SPR match. -AC- 
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IN, USA
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Posted: 8/19/2017 2:16:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/19/2017 2:29:32 PM EDT
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BC, CAN
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Posted: 8/20/2017 12:08:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Mister_Donut]
[#49]
So, I was poking around at the local gun shop today and stumbled on a Mark 4 2.5-8x36mm today. $1,900CAD. I took a look through it, great glass, crystal clear, barely any scope shadow, but damn, that price.
Buying in the US is not an option because ITAR. Also, I noticed the turrets were a bit mushy?? Maybe it was just this example? Anyway, I'm going to pass on a new one. I can't in good conscience pay $1,900 for a SFP, moa scope. Will keep my eye out for a very used one, the older and more beat up it is, the better, as long as the glass is clear and clean. My hats off to the true clone builders who cough up for a Mark 4. I also stumbled on a Docter sight for $320 CAD. Not bad I though, until I read it was a 7moa dot. What size dot is it supposed to be for a clone correct one? |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 1:11:43 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mister_Donut:
So, I was poking around at the local gun shop today and stumbled on a Mark 4 2.5-8x36mm today. $1,900CAD. I took a look through it, great glass, crystal clear, barely any scope shadow, but damn, that price. Buying in the US is not an option because ITAR. Also, I noticed the turrets were a bit mushy?? Maybe it was just this example? Anyway, I'm going to pass on a new one. I can't in good conscience pay $1,900 for a SFP, moa scope. Will keep my eye out for a very used one, the older and more beat up it is, the better, as long as the glass is clear and clean. My hats off to the true clone builders who cough up for a Mark 4. I also stumbled on a Docter sight for $320 CAD. Not bad I though, until I read it was a 7moa dot. What size dot is it supposed to be for a clone correct one? |
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